User talk:BartSimpkin

May 2023
Please do not add or change content without citing a reliable source. Do not use existing sources to support comments that they do not support. signed, Willondon (talk) 14:08, 9 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Cited 2 reliable sources, Google Earth and Neal Adams who was an expert in the Growing Earth Theory BartSimpkin (talk) 14:21, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Your recent editing history at Expanding Earth shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you do not violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:38, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Read Reliable sources
We aren't the slightest bit interested in your uniformed drivel concerning the so-called Expanding Earth. If you feel compelled to demonstrate your ignorance, start a blog somewhere. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:08, 9 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Cited 2 reliable sources, Google Earth and Neal Adams who was an expert in the Growing Earth Theory. Please take your uninformed drivel somewhere else and start a blog BartSimpkin (talk) 14:17, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * In fact, in this edit, you did not "cite" Google Earth. You mentioned Google Earth, but then cited a 1933 treatise by O. G. Hilgenberg. Clearly, Hilgenberg was not using Google Earth data when he wrote his treatise. You also did not cite Neal Adams, although he was already mentioned in the article three times. You may wish to claim Adams as an "expert" in the Growing Earth Theory, but Adams' background as an illustrator and artist offers no insight into why one would consider him an expert in geology. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:28, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * You seem obsessed in trying to discredit the growing earth hypothesis versus accurately defining it which is the purpose of the wikipedia page. I did not cite the 1933 treatise. Neal Adams is an expert in the Growing Earth Theory and spoke on many college campuses. No one claimed he as a geology expert nor does that matter. If you want to debunk the Growing Earth Hypthesis, feel free to create a blog. BartSimpkin (talk) 14:37, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. signed, Willondon (talk) 14:12, 9 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Please cite what was scientifically incorrect about the theory or stop harrassing me by falsely accusing me of disruptive editing. You have been reported. BartSimpkin (talk) 14:18, 9 May 2023 (UTC)


 * No need for me to do that, because Wikipedia aims to include only what reliable sources say is correct, scientifically or otherwise.  signed, Willondon (talk)  14:35, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The reliable sources align with my edits. It sounds like you are attempting to debunk a hypothesis you disagree with rather than accurately define the hypothesis. Two separate ideas, feel free to create a blog to debunk it. BartSimpkin (talk) 14:40, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Please define here, with links, the "reliable sources" you are relying on for your information. If you do, indeed, have reliable sources, I'd like to know about them. For the record, Neal Adams, a cartoonist who has ideas, is not a reliable source, since he is not a recognized expert in the field of geology. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:41, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * If you don't comprehend that accurately explaining a hypothesis doesn't mean you have to agree with it or that it is proven, you shouldn't be editing Wikipedia. Or are only 100% proven hypotheses permitted on Wikipedia? For the record, Neal Adams is an expert in the Growing Earth Theory, he was a paid speaker and published articles on the subject, which makes him a reliable source. No idea what his other career or lack of geology expert has to do with anything. I'll wait for an apology for your logical error. Feel free to retract it. BartSimpkin (talk) 15:11, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Being paid to write articles on a topic does not make him a recognized expert on the topic. It means that other people who share his fringe ideas were willing to pay him to write about it. For matters of geology, we rely on geology experts (you know, people who have actually studied the topic at the graduate and post-graduate level). And why do I owe you an apology for questioning Neal Adams' credentials? Also, for the record, you have not actually cited any of Adams' writings, or any url on Google Earth that backs up your claims. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:21, 9 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for admitting you are just upset and emotional over his "fringe" ideas versus simply letting rational adults edit the hypothesis wikipage. Neal was a recognized expert on the topic of Growing Earth Theory. That's why when you google growing earth theory, his name shows up and not yours. It doesn't mean he is theory is correct or incorrect, but he is an expert on the subject. If you want to debunk his theories, go for it, just stop harassing me. It's really weird. I'll wait for the apology. BartSimpkin (talk) 15:35, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * You are clearly not going to come to terms that Wikipedia does not deal in WP:FRINGE theories. Adams is not an expert on the theory, he is just a vocal proponent of it. And no one is harassing you, we're just discussing the content that you want to add to the article that the rest of the Wikipedia community does not agree with. You will get no apology from for that. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:40, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * This was my first edit on wiki and it epitomizes why it's turned into such an outdated and inaccurate platform. Too many Karens. Waiting for the rebrand as Karenipedia home to emotional adults wasting their lives monitoring "fringe" topics and reverting edits.
 * BTW, you know you lost the argument when you settle for the 3 emotional anti-Growing Earth Theory wiki-community cult editors who stalk the page all agree. It was cute you both said in unison Neal was a cartoonist and not a geologist. Neither applicable arguments but in your Karen mind, it made sense.
 * And yes, you are cyber bullying, Neal was an expert on the growing earth theory for two decades, he gave dozens of hours long paid lectures on the topic. Yet you are incapable of apologizing for being wrong. Typical narcissistic cyber-bully. BartSimpkin (talk) 17:04, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Edit warring
Your recent editing history at Expanding Earth shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you do not violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:38, 9 May 2023 (UTC)


 * It appears editors are bullying and creating an edit war because they appear to obsess over debunking the hypothesis instead of letting others accurately state the hypothesis. BartSimpkin (talk) 14:49, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

May 2023
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing certain pages (Expanding Earth) for disruptive editing, NPOV issues, edit warring,unsourced fringe material. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text at the bottom of your talk page:. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:43, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

BartSimpkin (talk) 14:56, 9 May 2023 (UTC)


 * You have claimed, vociferously, that you are using reliable sources, but you have yet to show us what those source are, other than vague claims about Google Earth and information provided by a cartoonist. When you can discuss the matter, rather than just complaining that the other editors are bullying you, you might get some useful responses. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:04, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * It's bizarre you are also bullying vociferously for no logical reason.
 * Is Google earth a reliable source? Yes
 * Please, for the love of God, provide a link to somewhere on Google Earth that supports this growing earth theory. I've asked mutliple times, and you have yet to do so. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:41, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Was Neal Adams, a paid speaker and publisher of the Growing Earth Theory an expert? Yes
 * Was Neal Adams also a cartoonist? Yes
 * If you don't believe in the growing earth theory, congratulations but stop bullying people who are attempting to accurately define it. BartSimpkin (talk) 15:20, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I've received blocks from individuals that reference WP:RS but proves they didn't read my post. They are asking for evidence in proving a hypothesis that they disagree versus comprehending it's a hypothesis.
 * PhilKnight should be placed on probation as a block approver as they are not following the guidelines. The topic Growing Earth Theory/Hypothesis is just that, a hypothesis. It is not fringe as it is believed by many scientists for centuries and scientists today. PhilKnight stated I was "pushing a fringe theory without providing sources". I made two claims, one the undersea is less ~250 million years old and referenced GoogleEarth which substantiated the claim. The other claim is that other celestial bodies are growing. Which is taught by Astromony 101 and is self evident, newer areas have less impact craters.