User talk:Barte/Archives/2016/June

You are one in a million, Barte!
Thanks, I tried pitching in on this last round, but got edit conflicts. You were busy! Barte (talk) 15:12, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, Barte. Now you can pitch in., the GA reviewer thinks it is Featured Article fodder. I was dreading an edit conflict so I just kept saving and somehow that gave me energy to keep editing. I went pretty much non-stop except a bit of sleeping. I took my friend to two doctor's appointments and they had Wi-Fi there so I did not have to slow down. I even got some editing it at lunch time. Cleaning up the references was the most tedious thing for me. I actually started to get physically sore, which had never happened before. I would have been lost if Sainsf did not save a Permalink of the page as it looked when she reviewed it. Once added references, it threw off the numbering of the refs and I thought we were cooked, but then I realized what the Permalink was for and I put it to good use. Once though, I made a save on the Permalink version, which I had opened without realizing it, and my edit/save rolled back about 50 of my edits! Fortunately I caught it, and self-reverted my bad save. You can delete this message so it does not clutter up your inbox. I put your name on the Million Award page too. Cheers!   15:29, 7 June 2016 (UTC)


 * You're a proof point in my theory that, above all else, obsession is what built Wikipedia.;-) I have a question about what's needed next to get to FA status.  I'll post it on the Talk page.  (No need to delete: the page is automatically archived.) Barte (talk) 15:38, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, Barte. Sainsf is a good person to work with. She made it smooth. I did not expect it to go so fast. It took me 6 weeks to fulfill getting Planned Parenthood to WP:GA status. Michael Laucke took a while too. Almost did not get off the ground because an editor slapped a NPOV banner on the article as the review was starting and they won't review articles that are not stable.


 * FA is another breed. There is not one reviewer exactly. There are two FA bosses and they wait for consensus from other editors. If no editors chime in, the article does not get promoted. We have Michael Laucke at FA now and it is stalled. You are welcome to comment over there. Cheers!  20:19, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I never knew a tiny permalink could save ages of troubles! Overwhelmed with all the praise here... Sainsf  (talk · contribs) 05:36, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Checkingfax is right. Hey, why don't you go look up some FAs in this field and structure your article like them? The comments at an FAC don't depend just on general criteria as at GAR, there may be some things solely based on the topic at hand (the reason I was not confident enough to support Michael Laucke straight away, there has been a lot going on since then and I think some pings are needed to rekindle action there). I see Sonam Kapoor is TFA, may be a good start... Sainsf  (talk · contribs) 05:36, 9 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Seems to me that the structure is comparable to Sonam Kapoor, particularly with Sainsf's smart suggestion to move Personal life to the bottom. I'm also thinking that, given what it took to get the Jenner article to this stage--including the battles over pronoun use and the endless search for a free contemporary photo--that GA status is an achievement worth savoring and may be good enough for now. Barte (talk) 14:34, 9 June 2016 (UTC)


 * No hurry Barte. If you don't feel confident enough just now you can send this for a peer review. It can garner smarter comments there from others more acquainted with this field, like . It is a great preparation for FAC. Sainsf  (talk · contribs) 14:44, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to the Bay Area WikiSalon series, Wednesday, June 29
Please join us in downtown San Francisco!



The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather at Bay Area WikiSalon to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

We make sure to allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages and light snacks. We will also have:


 * A brief report on Pride edit-a-thon recently held at the San Francisco Publice Library, coordinated by Merrilee:
 * What topics might we cover in a follow up?
 * Find out more about resources your public library provides to help with editing (hint, it's more than just books!)
 * Special announcement (secret for now but come and find out more!)
 * Join in on an in person Wikidojo!
 * Are you curious how your peers approach writing a Wikipedia article? This exercise, pioneered by Wikipedians Nikola Kalchev and Vassia Atanassova in 2015 and conducted in many places around the world, will help us all - from first-time wiki users to veteran Wikipedians - share ideas, while building an article together. If you have ideas (relating to Bay Area history, ideally) about a new article we could build (stubs and short existing articles are fine), please submit them ahead of time to coordinator Pete Forsyth. (User talk page or email is fine.)
 * Announcements and impromptu topics are welcome, too!

Please note: You must register here, and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. The building policy is strict.

For further details, see: Wikipedia:Bay Area WikiSalon, June 2016

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DYK for Caitlyn Jenner
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

REMINDER/invitation to the Bay Area WikiSalon series, Wednesday, June 29 at 6 p.m.
Please join us in downtown San Francisco tonight!



If you cannot join in person or want to view portions later:
 * To join via Hangout on Air
 * Via YouTube Stream

We will have:


 * Light snacks, and time to mingle
 * A brief report on the Pride edit-a-thon recently held at the San Francisco Public Library, that was coordinated by Wiki editor Merrilee
 * A special announcement (secret for now but come and find out more!)
 * Join in on a brief in person Wikidojo!
 * Announcements and impromptu topics are welcome, too!

Please register at: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1cjLRrSTlEkGOPTQ-h6A0WvSFI4ZmIUl6jEHp_RYas-E/viewform and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. The building policy is strict.

For further details, see: Bay Area WikiSalon, June 2016

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Editing News #2—2016
Editing News #2—2016 Read this in another language • Subscription list for this multilingual newsletter

Did you know?

It's quick and easy to insert a references list.

Place the cursor where you want to display the references list (usually at the bottom of the page). Open the "" menu and click the "" icon (three books).

If you are using several groups of references, which is relatively rare, you will have the opportunity to specify the group. If you do that, then only the references that belong to the specified group will be displayed in this list of references.

Finally, click "" in the dialog to insert the. This list will change as you add more footnotes to the page.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has fixed many bugs. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for Arabic and Indic scripts, and adapting the visual editor to the needs of the Wikivoyages and Wikisources.

Recent changes
The visual editor is now available to all users at most Wikivoyages. It was also enabled for all contributors at the French Wikinews.

The single edit tab feature combines the "" and "" tabs into a single "" tab. It has been deployed to several Wikipedias, including Hungarian, Polish, English and Japanese Wikipedias, as well as to all Wikivoyages. At these wikis, you can change your settings for this feature in the "" tab of Special:Preferences. The team is now reviewing the feedback and considering ways to improve the design before rolling it out to more people.

Future changes
The "" button will say "". This will affect both the visual and wikitext editing systems. More information is available on Meta.

The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the remaining "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next few months. The developers want to know whether typing in your language feels natural in the visual editor. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. This will affect several languages, including: Arabic, Hindi, Thai, Tamil, Marathi, Malayalam, Urdu, Persian, Bengali, Assamese, Aramaic and others.

The team is working with the volunteer developers who power Wikisource to provide the visual editor there, for opt-in testing right now and eventually for all users. (T138966)

The team is working on a modern wikitext editor. It will look like the visual editor, and be able to use the citoid service and other modern tools. This new editing system may become available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices around September 2016. You can read about this project in a general status update on the Wikimedia mailing list.

Let's work together
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 * Do you teach new editors how to use the visual editor? Did you help set up the Citoid automatic reference feature for your wiki? Have you written or imported TemplateData for your most important citation templates? Would you be willing to help new editors and small communities with the visual editor?  Please sign up for the new VisualEditor Community Taskforce.
 * Learn how to improve the "automagical" citoid referencing system in the visual editor, by creating Zotero translators for popular sources in your language! Watch the Tech Talk by Sebastian Karcher for more information.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk), 21:09, 30 June 2016 (UTC)