User talk:Baseball Bugs/Archive014

JAN 2012 - JUN 2012

Rango vandal
Hello Baseball Bugs. Because I semi-protected one of the affected articles a few weeks ago, I noticed your post at ANI about the BLP vandal. Looking to see if any additional pages were targeted, I did a site specific google search and whilst en.wiki seems clear, it looks like other language wikis may have been hit:. Are we absolutely certain that this is factually incorrect? - I want to be 100% sure before I go removing information from articles in languages I don't understand. CIreland (talk) 18:52, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I think you should visit wth Tenebrae about it, as he's more familiar with it - as shown on the WP:ANI page. You two might want to discuss it offline, for security reasons. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:15, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Request for Guidance Re: ANI
Since I trust your judgement in these matters, I would like to ask for your advice as to my best course of action in this ANI. While I do not feel that I have done anything wrong, I would like to understand this matter from the standpoint of a highly experienced editor such as yourself. Thanks. Ebikeguy (talk) 20:48, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note. I'll have to read more about what's going on with that matter. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:55, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Does that one company still have a request visible online, to recruit wikipedia editing, and if so, what is the URL? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:09, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I do not think that the the company has a posted request to recruit wikipedia editing. Editors learned about the situation through WWB Too's posting, although most did not realize he was a paid editor until they had read several of his edits and comments.  Thanks for your help in this.  I will do whatever is right, even if that involves undoing edits I have made in the past.  Cheers,  Ebikeguy (talk) 21:13, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think there's a rule against paid editing as such, although it's certainly a hot topic. If paid edits can be identified, they should be, in my opinion. And such certainly have to be checked for validity and neutrality. I don't think it's a good idea to go off-wiki, in general. It's best to keep such issues here, and make the user community aware. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:16, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Agreed about the paid editing. The question at the ANI is whether I broke editing rules by posting contact information for the organization who had hired the paid editor.  I also encouraged editors to contact that organization and express how they feel about hiring paid editors, although I did not mention any one editor.  Considering the reaction, I tend to agree with your assessment about going off wiki is not a good idea, and I doubt I will repeat such behavior, but I have not yet found any specific Wikipedia rule that prohibits doing so, so I conclude that the ANI should not find me "guilty" of anything, and certainly not harassment.  If someone can point to a rule that I have broken, I will retract my post with the email address.  Thanks again.  Ebikeguy (talk) 21:30, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Not sure about the specific rules, but I know I have seen editors here blocked for off-wiki harassment. It does seem that some clarification is needed. But if I were in your moccasins, I think I would say, "Sorry about doing that, and I won't do it again." ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:36, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Wise words. Many thanks.  Ebikeguy (talk) 21:40, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

redirect
very bold - and while I agree 100%, I knew it wouldn't stick. But nice try Bugs, I give ya credit for having the stones to do such a thing. :) — Ched :  ? 13:58, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I find the attitudes here appalling sometimes. The difference is that I don't fight to the death (or the block) as I once did. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 15:24, 5 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I had a go at it there some time ago (probably archives 6 and/or 7) and tried to stick to Policy (you know, those funny things we're supposed to actually adhere to). Of course like you, I felt that WP:BLP was the primary one.  I also mentioned WP:COAT, several versions of "NOT" such as WP:NOTNEWS, and even mentioned WP:UNDUE.  What gets me is that there are actually people arguing that none of it is politically motivated.   I think you have to be pretty naive to believe that myself.  Savage is by no means any Walter Cronkite, Edward R. Murrow, or Rupert Murdock - but even giving the guy his 15 minutes of fame: Do we really need 3-4+ articles to cover this?  I have to think: 100 years from now, just how encyclopedic is it to say "Dan Savage said that the poopy stuff that leaks out a bum after gay anal sex is what 'santorum' is."   heard in the 7th grade boy's locker room.  Just wow. And yea, I know I'm preaching to the choir here. :) — Ched :  ?  16:06, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * This could be an episode called "Beavis and Butt-Head Discover Wikipedia". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:38, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

If Savage - a syndicated columnist published internationally in dozens of markets for over twenty years - had just run a contest making fun of the Senator in 2003, and left it at that, then I would wholly agree with you. But that's not what Savage - an activist whose anti-bullying campaign drew the personal participation of the President of the United States - did. No, Savage - the author of five published books (each of which has its own Wikipedia article, and one of which formed the basis for an award-winning musical which also has its own Wikipedia article) - launched a careful campaign that has lasted over eight years, using his influence over tens of thousands of readers to induce them to participate in what is precisely the opposite of a Google bomb. This campaign by Savage - who for six years was the editor-in-chief of a major alternative newspaper and for five years has been its editorial director - has had enough of an impact on the Senator's political hopes that there has been substantial media coverage of the Senator's attempts to counter it.

That you, Baseball Bugs, had never heard of either Savage or his distasteful neologizing before seeing the article, is no excuse. You, Baseball Bugs, have written well over a hundred articles on subjects which are so obscure that I've never heard of them before seeing their articles. It would be far too POINTy of me to either delete them or suggest their merger, mind you, but do we really need an article on the song that was played over the end credits in Upstairs, Downstairs ? DS (talk) 20:11, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know, but at least it's not a BLP violation. And thank you for making the point that it's not about anyone except Savage, and should be confined to his page. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:45, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Reference desk/Miscellaneous
That's really a fun page! Hey, I posted a question there--maybe you have an answer. Or perhaps Mrs. Bugs does? Drmies (talk) 22:34, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note. I don't know much about cooking. I've been known to burn water. Also, we're not really into hazelnuts. Interesting question, though. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:45, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll let you know how it goes. Drmies (talk) 00:43, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, wouldn't you know it, Mandarax got his 1935 edition from his grandmother's shelf and scanned the recipe. Indeed, one cup. We should have that man on salary. Later! Drmies (talk) 00:45, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Excellent. NOW you're cookin'. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 09:55, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Schwarzbraun ist die Haselnuss,
 * schwarzbraun bin auch ich, ja ich,
 * schwarzbraun muss mein Mädel sein
 * gerade so wie ich.


 * Holdrio, duwiduwidi, holdria.
 * Holdria duwiduwidi.
 * Holdrio, duwiduwidi, holdria.
 * Holdria duwiduwidi. Slight  Smile  01:40, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Kudos. If only I spoke German. :( ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:22, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * What made me think you did? I know the odd phrase but I can't really say I speak it. Something like Blackbrown is the hazelnut; Blackbrown (hair color) I am I am; Blackbrown must my woman be; Just like me. And how to explain the refrain, not quite a yoddle. Popular with the soldiers in the WWII and as far as I know the modern German army. Here it says the song is originally from the nineteenth century but I have an old cut and paste that says from Switzerland 1790. Slight  Smile  19:13, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation. Like you, I just know random words of German. I've never studied it. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:30, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Something you should read
[something you shouldn't miss [[User:PumpkinSky| Pumpkin Sky ]] talk  00:43, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes, very enlightening, though probably not in the way you were intending. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 09:55, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

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InRe to User:69.126.207.62
Just an FYI, ANY legal threat is grounds for an instant ban. See WP:LEGAL for more information. To get a faster response, you can check out our IRC channel. There is always at least one admin on. Funnyfarmofdoom (talk to me) 21:32, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm well aware of that. The trouble is that IP's can't be indef'd unless they're open proxies. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:12, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Copyright on public statues
Hey Bugs, I remember a while back you were asking about the copyright status for a public statue in the U.S. The WMF legal team just posted some information on this topic that might be useful to you: Commons:Public art and copyrights in the US. Cheers. Kaldari (talk) 19:17, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you! That clears up a few things. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:29, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It had a typo in it. Collect (talk) 16:57, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, yeh, the reference to a former tree. I decided to leaf that be. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:49, 11 January 2012 (UTC)


 * There is also an extensive list of freedom of panorama in different countries at Commons:Freedom of panorama which I've found useful. Yworo (talk) 17:27, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Excellent. That is now on my watch list. Thank you! As a practical matter, I'm pretty much USA-bound, but anything can happen. Supposedly in Italy they won't even let you take pictures of classic buildings and art, never mind publishing. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:33, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I've found it useful in preventing me from making mistakes with respect to other photographers. For example, someone added a photo of a new Hungarian statue of Steve Jobs. A quick look at that list and I knew to help them get in into the article nicely rather than have a pointless discussion about its copyright status. Yworo (talk) 17:55, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Why are they creating statues of Steve Jobs in Hungary? Kaldari (talk) 08:15, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

You're slipping
I noticed you commented on a thread called "when is a block not a block"...without making a funny joke. Time was when that'd have been right up your alley. You're slipping  Purpleback pack  89  ≈≈≈≈  16:51, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Slip-slidin' away. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:52, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It's always a pleasure to run into you Bugs, ice cream or not. Drmies (talk) 01:37, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Worcester Worcesters
I did a little following up on the July 2009 discussion over the name of this 1880s NL franchise. If you're inclined to do so, let me know what you think at Talk:Worcester Worcesters ``` W i k i W i s t a h ``` 23:09, 11 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I know the Worcester area well, and they should have really called themselves the "Worcester Woostas", as that's how they all say it up there. It's pronounced "woos-tah", with the first part pronounced like, "You're a wuss!" Which is likely a term they would reserve for any former or current Yankee player in history: they really don't like us Yankee fans there. Doc   talk  08:29, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I originally blocked the guy per your report on AIV, but I'm not so sure. This doesn't look (at first glance) like a sock of ChristianHistory. I unblocked him for now. -- Luk  talk 09:53, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Pay now or pay later. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 10:22, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't want to have charge-backs :P (But I agree, the guy is trouble) -- Luk  talk 10:27, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * We'll see. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 10:31, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

I also support the inclusion that East Germany be recognized as being a satellite state of the USSR, but could you provide a reason for your support
I know that you think it is obvious that it was a satellite state, but the discussion is not a straw poll but a debate that is going to be reviewed by a neutral third party user to make a decision based on the debate and its arguments - so showing your position is okay, but if you could add some evidence as well that would be more effective. For instance, you mentioned Soviet control over the Berlin Wall - if you could provide some reliable sources that demonstrate the Soviet control - that would help your argument.--R-41 (talk) 02:42, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
 * And as you know, Mister Bunny, East Germany was located in what is now the eastern part of Germany. Slight  Smile  03:00, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
 * How about this Reagan quote: "Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" If Reagan belived it, then that's enough RS in my book.-- JOJ Hutton  03:17, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Reagan was stating the obvious. Instead of asking me for "sources", maybe they could simply read an article or two on what happened to Germany after the War. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:35, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I haven't followed the discussion but I find it funny that people are suggesting East Germany wasn't a Soviet satellite. It was always a given that the Iron Curtain countries were Eastern Bloc. They were all Warsaw Pact and would have all fought along side the Soviets in the event of a NATO war, which was considered to be an inevitable event. Slight  Smile  03:48, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Your input is needed on the SOPA initiative
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analogies
Some seem to attract very strong opinions, alas, even when quite well-intentioned. I recommend that you use Flat earth in future, as few editors hold strong opinions thereon . Cheers. Collect (talk) 13:38, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Poseidon Adventure
Thanks. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 18:52, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

*BELCH!*
Sorry 'bout that... Half Shadow  18:54, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Blackout
I checked the place & wowsers, that's alot of info for me to digest. When's this blackout suppose to hit & how many countries will it effect? GoodDay (talk) 19:20, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Wednesday. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:22, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Okie Dokie, thanks. GoodDay (talk) 19:25, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * So much for wikipedia's policy on NPOV-- JOJ Hutton  19:42, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Very risky move, this BLACKOUT. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:28, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Slippin' Into Darkness... Been nice knowing you, Bugs. Hope we see daylight at the end of the rabbit hole ! —— Shakescene (talk) 04:01, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Citizens all over Wiki City awaken and swap tales of mysteriously missing day. Slight  Smile  16:55, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

January 2012 USCOTM - The Star-Spangled Banner

 * Thanks for your note. I'll take a look at it after the BLACKOUT is over. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:27, 17 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Hey, that's racist! The proper term is AFRICAN-AMERICANOUT Half  Shadow  23:44, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * You might want to clue Jimbo in on that point. Maybe we need a different name altogether, such as IRONY CURTAIN or WIKILIGHTSOUT. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:48, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Or possibly, because SOPA's been dropped like a hot potato PROVINGNOTHINGINACOMEDICMANNER...um...OUT Half  Shadow  23:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Has it been dropped or merely deferred? In any case, maybe OCCUPY WIKIPEDIA would be more current-sounding. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:58, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
 * What happens to a nightmare deferred? (Does it dry up like a raisin in the sun)? —— Shakescene (talk) 06:25, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Level 1
Hello Rabbit Who Wishes to Play BaseBall. Thank you for your recent edits to Wikipedia. However one of your edits might not possibly have been quite as constructive as we might like it to be. If you wish to experiment please use that thing there that has sand in it that cats go to do their businss and then kids go and sit in it and play and hopefully not catch any worms or anything, you know. Slight Smile  00:38, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * What, are you trying to victimize poor ol' Rabbit's page with WP:OTHER STUFF DOESN'T EXIST, when the Cabal can blank out thousands of other people's home pages at a stroke? Does Bugs have to open a well-noticed RfC (closable only by an Uninvolved Admin) every time he changes the color of his own home page to #000000? Ain't this still Amewiki? —— Shakescene (talk) 01:25, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I was just running a test. And it had its desired effect. I had several calls from congressmen telling me to cut it out. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:56, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah well you gotta be careful with that, you could hurt someone. Slight  Smile  02:59, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, those who put themselves in harm's way can hardly blame BB if they get a little singed managing an E.R., flying an aircraft, operating Mr Burns' nuclear power station or running a sawmill after being warned that this software is experimental and shouldn't be relied on in life-critical situations? Didn't they read and agree to the 50-page shrink-wrapped Terms of Service, the 38-page User Agreement, and the 62-page Privacy Policy before they clicked? Qui Tacet Consentit et Caveat Lector (Silence of the Bugs). —— Shakescene (talk) 23:32, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Reference desk/Entertainment troll
Thanks for reporting this. Blocked now. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:42, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

16:20, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Fortheloveofbacon (talk) 22:56, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello mate
I just saw your message. I removed the section, but because that means I also removed your comment I thought it would be a good idea to let you know. I hope you don't mind. Feel free to revert me if you want to of course! Von Restorff (talk) 00:55, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Good removal. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:00, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

AIV
Hi Baseball Bugs. Regarding, I see the concern with the talk page comments of this IP user (and the far-reached analogy of IRC logs to quotes on Fluffernutter's page), but thought that AIV was not the best forum to address it. Perhaps WP:RFC on user conduct if the pattern persists? Hope that you are keeping well. -- Samir 04:20, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

IP
Apparently, the IP is blocked for personal attacks, not NLT...just fyi... Dreadstar ☥   20:59, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Surprise, surprise. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:09, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
 Lynch 7  06:44, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Rango vandal
Thanks for the head's up, BB. I see they took the "Urgent" literally &mdash; it looked all over but the mopping up by the time I just got there! I've been seeing that antisemitic schmuck IP-hopping all over the place. Yeah, they had to semi-protect my user page as well. Wow, is that guy fucked up. I'll keep an eye out and keep a record of wherever I see him next; could be useful. With regards, Tenebrae (talk) 22:27, 24 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks again, BB! You're a pal, and it's much appreciated. --Tenebrae (talk) 15:32, 31 January 2012 (UTC)


 * This particular attack seemed short-lived. I guess the bell ending "recess" came early. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 15:35, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Want a job?
As a professional sock spotter. You never seem to miss them; do you have a huge textbook of confirmed socks next to you or something? Basa lisk inspect damage⁄berate 12:40, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments. I'm not that good at it... only when I happen to recognize something. I don't keep a list as such. Maybe I should. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:13, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Good quote
"The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy." -- ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:43, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

This user finds you interesting
Stay editing my friend. The most interesting man in the world (talk) 07:43, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Ola!
What to do about the hairy friend you spotted here? He keeps going. Is it Sean Archer123 a.k.a. Timmy Polo? Shouldn't it be reverted if it is him? This stuff is confusing! Von Restorff (talk) 08:49, 29 January 2012 (UTC) p.s. How can I get you out of your hemisemidemi-retirement?

Pieter Kuiper (or something like that)
"I'm going to raise this issue on WP:ANI, as I think this is grounds for a permanent ban."

Did you ever do that? I looked at AN/I and saw nothing. CycloneGU (talk) 15:47, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it was archived with no action taken. That's how things go sometimes. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:04, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I didn't think I saw it in the archives.  Must've missed it, but no biggie.  CycloneGU (talk) 19:24, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Here: ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:46, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Beta C-Mag
@ Dave1185

Thank you for correcting the mistake I made. I have no problem with criticism, but there′s really no need to be rude! ⌘ 15:45, 31 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I think Dave lives on the other side of the world, so it might be a bit before he gets back to you. As regards the "stupid is as stupid does", never let it be said that Dave can't see the forest for the trees. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:16, 31 January 2012 (UTC)


 * As a matter of fact, I rather like the movie, but still ... ⌘  16:59, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Hide the carrot
Here is a carrot. Can you hide it? kthxbai, Von Restorff (talk) 16:05, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't do texting, but I'm guessing that means "OK, thanks, 'bye." ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:13, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Funny. I take it that's in California or such. Nobody dresses like that in the midwest. Not for long, anyway. Maybe at Halloween. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:11, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Your guess is correct, it means "OK, thanks, 'bye.". A bit more to the north, its the Fremont Solstice Parade in the Fremont neighborhood of Seattle, Washington. Von Restorff (talk) 16:32, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

-elect
Well, I can assure you that I acted with good intentions. A little more thought into the move may have done some good, yes, but I did what I thought was best at the time. I shall endeavour to put more thought into moves in the future.-- Tærkast (Discuss) 19:18, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Baseball terminology question
Hi Bugs. In the film Mr. Baseball, the "Jack Elliot" character is on second base and trash-talks the second baseman, who in the fiction is also a former MLB player playing in Japan. The Elliot character asks him, "you still spiking guys on the pickoff?" or words along those lines  (haven't seen the movie in a long time). What does "spiking" mean in that context? Mashing the baserunner with cleats? --Shirt58 (talk) 10:02, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * That would be my assumption, but I never saw the movie. You might ask at the Entertainment ref desk. Jayron32 will know if anybody does. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 10:22, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Movies that you might like to see, from MoviesthatShirt58likesbot
Good little movie. Clever, funny, and very, very well researched. --Shirt58 (talk) 10:54, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

YahwehSaves and IP
Ron Liebman, maybe? Daniel Case (talk) 14:32, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * No, with that ID, I was expecting another variant on JesusSaves or one of those. Also, Liebman is a New Yorker, and the IP here is from California. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:39, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * OK. I figured you'd know better than I. Daniel Case (talk) 17:00, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * No guarantees. :) In any case, thank you for taking care of it. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:46, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Baseball question on RDE
There's a baseball question for you on RDE you may find a decent challenge. I've exhausted my abilities. Perhaps you want to take a stab at it. -- Jayron  32  18:56, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * That might be the one referenced a couple of sections above. I'll take a look. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:03, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Blues Brothers note-to-self
Illinois Nazis: ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:02, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Discussion at User Page talk about fake New Message banners
Hi, Bugs, before pitchers and catchers have to report, you might be interested (if you haven't seen it already) in a discussion about whether fake "You Have New Messages!" banners closely resembling the real thing are permissible on User Talk Pages. I can see both sides of the argument, so this isn't canvassing (perish the thought). Take a sentimental journey back to what must be by now one of your favorite (or at least unwelcomely-familiar) spots, Wikipedia talk:User pages. —— Shakescene (talk) 19:04, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

List of Super Bowl champions
I was feeling mischeivous and just had to do it. It won't happen again. I know it's a violation, but I couldn't resist. Thank you for simply reverting and informing me, without making a huge situation over it.NaschyCushing (talk) 01:52, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Blues Bros.
That's a good scene, and it certainly brings to mind that Fawlty Towers episode that, at least first run, wasn't shown in Germany. (Basil to staff, preparing for German tourists: "Whatever you do, don't mention the war." ... [German tourist, to a concussed and confused Basil, over who started an unrelated argument: "Well, you started it." "No, you did, when you invaded Poland!"). Geez, I remember going to press screening of The Blues Brothers in 1980; seems like a long time ago now. The highlight for me was Aretha ... wow, did she belt it out! --Tenebrae (talk) 14:08, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes, the great Aretha, before she became as big as a house. The entry in Leonard Maltin's annual movie guide had the perfect review: "Off-the-wall from beginning to end." It was a huge hit in Illinois, of course, as at the time there were not many films that used Chicago as a location. Yes, a long time ago, and hard to believe that John Belushi would be dead 2 years later, and that director John Landis would be in serious hot water over the fatal helicopter crash in the Twilight Zone movie. In 1979-80, all was peachy. "Well, it's a hundred and six miles to Chicago; we've got a full tank of gas; a half a pack of cigarettes; it's dark; and we're wearing sunglasses." "Hit it!" ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:12, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

They must already be fishing for your endorsement
Why else would the Chairwoman of the DNC make such an invidious comparison? (remember that the next time they ask you for campaign contributions.)

But unlike certain self-aggrandizing real-estate magnates/would-be media celebrities whose names I'm far too polite to mention, I know that Mr. Bugs takes his endorsements very seriously, knowing what a grave responsibility he bears to those who trust in his erudition, sagacity, patriotism, steadiness and good judgement.

DNC chairwoman: Trump, Romney ‘both like firing people’

By Justin Sink (The Hill) – 02/02/12 11:56 AM ET

DNC chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Fla.) said the expected endorsement of Republican frontrunner Mitt Romney by reality show host Donald Trump was “a non-news event” and mocked both for making millions “firing people” during an interview Thursday morning.

“It really wouldn’t be surprising if Donald Trump supports Mitt Romney, because they both like firing people and they’ve both made millions doing it,” Wasserman Schultz said on MSNBC. “Donald Trump is such a cartoon character, an endorsement no matter who he chooses is like Bugs Bunny making an endorsement.”…

continued with video at http://thehill.com/video/campaign/208263-wasserman-schultz-trumps-support-is-like-bugs-bunny-making-an-endorsement
 * I haven't decided who to endorse yet. There are so many comedians running in the GOP that it's hard to settle on one in particular. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 10:16, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Going Green
Användare:Le Lapin Vert. I didn't know you had relatives in Sweden! Slight Smile  02:11, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I have relatives everywhere. I used to tour with a rock band. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 10:15, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * That's all we need - a horny rabbit with a guitar. Slight  Smile  18:33, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

ANI - Lament for Weekly Reader (we can dream, anyway)
To dream, perchance to sweep (or mop); eye, there's the rub, to shuffle that mote of coal off the internet, or to at least to give them a pause, to refresh ourselves. Alas, poor Weekly Reader; we knew them hornblowers; especially in the Biblical sense. 0:) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 10:50, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Jell-O
I do hope you're getting dessert out of this, Bugs. If I want some I'll have to make it myself. Oh, I'm also glad you closed that section; let the other one die out as well please... pretty please... Drmies (talk) 00:40, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:45, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks Bugs. I'll make us some coffee and we'll have girl-scout cookies. Drmies (talk) 00:49, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Mmm... Thin Mints. :b ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:52, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I think we still have a few boxes of those. I like those Samoas (?) best. How many boxes of mints do I put you down for? I'll take a check. Drmies (talk) 01:02, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Samoas were my next option. :) So you say you'll take a check?
 * ✅ ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:05, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Drmies, will you take an out-of-state, two-party, bad check? Buffs (talk) 01:26, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think we've met, and I don't think that's an Alabama class ring on your user page. So I'll take PayPal, dear Buffs. Drmies (talk) 01:33, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I've always thought they were S'mores as in "Some more". —— Shakescene (talk) 06:19, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * } I've read about the large food portions in the US but eating an entire island? BTW, I prefer samosas as a snack but my arteries do not. - Sitush (talk) 09:30, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * (another incorrigible stalker trying to distract from profoundly serious scholarly exchanges) Well, Baked Alaska is a well-known and generally-loved American sweet, although that might require biting off more of a continent than most dentally-healthy Americans can easily chew. However Mr. Fudd could easily ascribe such a meal to this Talk Page Owner's incisors and appetite; he's no doubt already warned Gov. Palin.  —— Shakescene (talk) 09:58, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Bah, humbug y'all--note the question mark after the offending word. I just eat them and sell them, not buy them and spell them. Drmies (talk) 22:18, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you sell humbugs, too? Being out of Britain for so long, it's been ages since I've had one. Please, sir, please! —— Shakescene (talk) 09:21, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Blocked
Baseball Bugs, I don't know how I could have been any more clear about dropping the issues related to User:Mistress Selina Kyle. You could not leave things alone. This is disruptive behaviour that is not acceptable. Take the week off. Risker (talk) 00:54, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe I should join Weekly Reader and rag you about this stupid block.
 * Nah. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:55, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Risker, c'mon. This isn't disruptive editing under any definition, ergo, you don't have grounds to make such a block. Buffs (talk) 01:00, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Be aware that Volunteer Marek managed to clobber your "unblock" statement on ANI. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:02, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Someone noticed that and fixed it. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:10, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Risker must have gotten bored of not using the blocking tool for a few days, as the block is clearly punitive when it is after the fact (MSK was blocked and you were clearly unlikely to make further comment) and telling you to "take a week off". Bidgee (talk) 01:43, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Please let someone take the high road... Let the ANI review run its course. Knee-jerk comments about the blocking admin aren't going to help. Drmies (talk) 02:19, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

And words of wisdom from the frequently unwise. The next time you are on ANI, defending your integrity, your honour, and your carrot-hoard, ask yourself "what would The Rabbit do?". Your namesake was clearly a student of Sun Tzu, and understood that victory belongs not to those who react the most noisily, but to those who study the enemy's weak points, and know how to tell when the most effective strategy is to do nothing. AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:36, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Wu wei. Enemy. Victory. WP:BATTLE then. &rarr;  Stani Stani  06:03, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Um. No. WP:ROPE. Sun Tzu writes essays on Wikipedia... AndyTheGrump (talk) 07:02, 7 February 2012 (UTC)



Unblocked
Per consensus on ANI, you are now unblocked. Don't run with scissors. Toddst1 (talk) 05:06, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Huzzah! Buffs (talk) 06:45, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * You should be aware that there is still discussion about the block/unblock. You are already aware of this, but discussion has also moved to WP:AN. Among the topics under discussion are a possible topic ban from the administrator noticeboards. AniMate 06:54, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Ouch... that'll sting hard for the first month or so. But eventually you'll get used to it... Assuming that consensus supports the noticeboard ban. (And trust me; I know from experience) Barts1a / What did I actually do right? / What did I do wrong this time? 08:12, 7 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Pretty hard to run very far with scissors when the underlying IP is still blocked. :) Fixed
 * As regards a potential ANI ban, consider that the worst "charge" the Weekly Reader children have ever come up with against me is that I defend wikipedia. Their bogus "look-what-you-made-me-do" arguments reinforce that they are at the grade school level of maturity. I don't make anyone do anything. They choose to do it. So if I get ANI-banned for having helped to reveal the true character of some of those pre-adolescent malcontents, I will consider it as "taking a bullet" in support of wikipedia. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 10:48, 7 February 2012 (UTC)


 * ← For your amusement. (PS:Apologies... I would have gone to ANI to splish my splash but I see that I have missed it by a hare!) -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 16:09, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Precisionist
It needs the context in the userbox. I see a lot of grey, if I can. White is blinding, Black is forbidding, but all the relative shades of grey inbetween are interesting, and can be precisely defined, on various scales.
 * ''This user might be a precisionist.
 * It depends - check the policy.''

Anyway, that's enough of that crap. Don't let the wotsits grind you down. Begoon &thinsp; talk 12:40, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I read what you actually meant, and I agree completely. Or at least in a good shade of grey. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 12:42, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Cool. Agreement is cool gray I think. Begoon &thinsp; talk  12:44, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

oh geesh ..
...what did you do now Bugs? ... sigh .. now I have even more stuff I have to go read - geesh. What on earth has happened to this place? — Ched :  ? 17:26, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Clearly Elmer Fudd is running the asylym.... - The Bushranger One ping only 21:54, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Q: What does a woman and a tornado have in common? A: They both moan and groan like hell when they're coming then takes the house when they leave. (PS: From the looks of it... I'd better not comment! ) -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 08:04, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

The proposed AN/ANI ban
I'm posting this on your talkpage rather than in the long discussion on the noticeboard because it's hard to find anything in that discussion.

It is obvious that there is a fair amount of dissatisfaction with your manner of participating on AN and ANI. Some of the editors commenting in the discussion disagree whether your pattern of commenting on the threads is so disruptive as to actually warrant a pageban, versus just having everyone grit their teeth and continue to put up with it&mdash;but there are relatively few editors suggesting that your participation is actually helpful or productive toward resolving the issues raised on AN/ANI.

Given these facts, do you have any suggestions as to how you might change your approach to these discussions to address the concerns that have been reached? If you have any ideas along these lines, right now would be a very good time to say so. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 22:20, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * This sounds like 2009 all over again. If you think wikipedia is not worth defending against those who would damage it, right now would be a very good time to say so. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:34, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * (1)I don't readily understand the reference to 2009. (2) I am sure most participants in the ANI discussion agree that "Wikipedia is worth defending against those who would damage it"; what is being questioned is your unstated premise that the manner in which you participate on ANI and AN is useful in such a defense. Newyorkbrad (talk) 23:37, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * 2009 is another time when I defended wikipedia against trolls and vandals, and was scourged for it. And in this particular case, the complaint was driven by lies from a Weekly Reader user and its supporters. Be proud, wikipedians; be very proud. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:41, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Bugs, if every time you take up arms to defend Wikipedia, you end up getting scourged - isn't life trying to tell you something? Look, I love your humour and I don't for a minute doubt your good intentions. But might there not be a reason that people end up on your case? To reiterate NYB's question above, isn't there anything you could change about your approach to make it more productive? Kim Dent-Brown  (Talk)  23:51, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It tells me that sometimes I should use a nerf bat instead of a sledgehammer. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:27, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

I made my comment at AN before I saw this section here, but I want to reiterate what Brad said above, and will go further. Would you consider a voluntary topic ban of some duration, or a pledge to dial back the tone and volume (number of posts) of your commentary? If it helps, I too used to post to AN and ANI very frequently (in the days before I was on ArbCom). This was pointed out to me, and though at the time I justified it by saying to myself that I was being helpful, I still resolved to cut back on the amount I posted to AN and ANI, and it did actually help to not spend so much time at those venues. Even if you aren't prepared to voluntarily accept a topic ban, sometimes posting less is more. People may listen more when someone posts less frequently. I hope you will consider this and what others are saying. Carcharoth (talk) 01:35, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm pissed now, because I was thinking of saying/asking pretty much exactly what NYB and Carch have, omly hours earlier, in a section above. I could have been in the lead of such accomplished editors, and I let it slip through my fingers. :) I let it go at the time 'cause Bugs, my experience is that you get really defensive when you first get criticisms and refuse to admit you were wrong in any way for a while. But you do think about it, and I think you do eventually change (if grudgingly) and every so often I see comments from you which let on that maybe yeah you might have changed things a tiny bit. From my experience at the RefDesks (which you came to after a past bout of AN/I ban-Bugs discussions), you came a long way after much discussion. Except for a few nagging problems, I think you're actually pretty consistently helpful there now, with an acceptable amount of whimsicality mixed in. I'll echo the comments above then, can you just tone it down and think more about what exactly you are helping when you comment? As I hope you saw when you stepped back from troll-fighting at the RDs, you are not the sole defender of this wiki. I won't ask you to not insist on the last word, I'll bet that would be the toughest of all. :) Bet I can prove it right in this thread! :) Franamax (talk) 02:18, 8 February 2012 (UTC)


 * How about if I stay away from it for at least a month EXCEPT for issues that directly affect me in some way? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:42, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yebbut - didn't you just say somewhere you were going to be busy at work for the next month? :) I'll personally take that deal though,as it will give you time to think. If you come back and keep doing the exact same thing, I'll put you on my enemies list. Franamax (talk) 04:10, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes and no. See next section. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:25, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, timidly weighing in now ... I didn't weigh in on the AN or ANI because 1) sometimes you really really make me laugh (you're not as good as The Fat Man Who Never Came Back at bringing levity and sanity to this place, but you are sometimes funny :), and 2) there is a terrible tendency taking hold at ANI where some admins who know nothing about anything and don't intend to do the homework to learn something about anything think They're All That And More, and they're quite willing to make everyone else miserable because it satisfies their need for power, so I didn't want to join in that mess of nimwits opining. But, seriously Bugs, your contrib count on that page alone indicates that something has gone too far. ANI is no longer useful for anything, and how are we going to deal with the inept adminning there and get reason to prevail unless we first improve the signal-to-noise ratio? If some sense of decorum can return there, then the really bad, lazy, shoot first investigate later, corrupt adminning will stand out, and be easier to deal with. Those folks won't get the power they seem to need, because they'll look foolish compared to the thoughtful and thorough admins, and maybe they'll go play somewhere else. So, I join in those asking (not demanding) that you stay away for a couple of months, just on the principle that "if what you're doing isn't working, stop doing it". ANI isn't working, and the result is often that the "guilty" walk and the "innocent" are shot. How about going to review some FACs? :) :) Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 04:35, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Ba-da-bing! Ba-da-boom!

 * Thank you, Dave. You're an excellent wiki-friend. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:42, 8 February 2012 (UTC)


 * You're welcome, wabbit! -- Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 07:57, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

A perverse offer
Bugs - a few people have raised the idea of appointing YOU as the AN/I clerk. While it is certainly a bizarre idea on many levels, it also has a perverse logic to it. Classify it under "It's so crazy it just might work".

If you do want to explore the idea, I'd be willing to work with you to establish a set of terms and conditions which we could then take to the community for approval. Cheers Manning (talk) 04:04, 8 February 2012 (UTC)


 * As I just noted, and as Fran reiterated above, my availability for wikipedia may well be limited for the short term. That doesn't mean I'm going to disappear. Just that my daily time slice might be smaller. As regards the clerk job in general, I'll have to read more of what that idea is and get back. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:25, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, I can't help but think of a certain scene where a certain man holds a gun to his head and says "Hold it. Next man makes a move, the n- gets it!" There's a certain elegance to this, of course, and in the movie it worked. Are "they" dumb enough? Drmies (talk) 05:26, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * "They"? Buffs (talk) 06:13, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * "Baby, you are so talented! And they are so dumb..." But hey, that's pretty close. Drmies (talk) 06:19, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Or a cartoon where a man wearing a funny hat says "Be vewwy vewwy quiet! I'm hunting a wabbit. Edison (talk) 06:12, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Wabbits? Buffs (talk) 06:14, 8 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, this whole idea just might work if we are daring enough to give it a try. Let's put a vote to this, shall we? -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 07:59, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Poacher turned gamekeeper? I like it. Or rabbit turned hunter, whatever. Bugs should double team with Malleus as his clerking partner. <font face="century gothic" color="#0E6E2D">Kim Dent-Brown  <font face="century gothic" size="1" color="#0E6E2D">(Talk)  08:26, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I've seen it before as a business technique: got a worker who's good but also a troublemaker? Here, have some responsibility dude and here he gets a 100% pay raise too. I've long thought it would be good for Bugs to have to make some tough calls and give a full rationale for each. Franamax (talk) 09:42, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Dave - First we need Bugs to agree in principle. Then we need to develop a set of T&C that Bugs is willing to live by. Then we need to take it to the community for discussion and approval - not just the idea of Bugs as "clerk" but the very idea of clerking itself. It all seems a bit unlikely, but if Bugs wants to proceed I think there are enough people willing to help out. Manning (talk) 10:32, 8 February 2012 (UTC)


 * FWIW, I would support this proposal with great fucking enthusiasm, if Bugs is on board. → ROUX   ₪  10:40, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure, let's talk about it. No harm. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:08, 8 February 2012 (UTC)


 * MB, Bugs and I are established long time editors so I think that alone is good enough reason to grant him (or me but I'd rather not, thank you!) the responsibility to clerk should he choses to accept it. For some strange reason, the hair on my back is telling me that he is itching to accept it with great gusto. -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 11:31, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Squiggly, you are automatically excluded because eyes my age can't read your sig. Franamax (talk) 12:59, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I may have an extra pair of bifocals laying around I could send you. :) — Ched : <font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ? 22:27, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Or maybe rent to him, as kind of a lens-lease act. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:53, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * and  ^^^ THAT ^^^ folks is the wit and humor that I so love. Laughed my butt off. :) — Ched : <font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ?  23:49, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Ched, you set him up, again! (PS:Yup, gotta love him for that!) -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 00:38, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

For Baseball Bugs to go from being possibly "hung out to dry" permanently from AN/I to being the clerk would be brilliant, and if AN/I could be run as efficiently as AN/V (complete with helper bot), it could be a major evolutionary step. Speaking of evolution, I just can't wait to see what we find in this lake. Hopefully it's only good things. ;> Doc   talk  05:08, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing that the artifacts in that lake will include the Cubs last World Series trophy. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:57, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


 * @Doc .. I'd suspect you'd see a huge drop in the humor element at least at the board itself. Going from "one of the crowd" to one of management can be a very humbling, enlightening, and sobering experience.  I have no doubt what-so-ever that Bugs could do it easily and well by the way.  And I'd also hope he'd keep his wonderful sense of humor here on his talk page.
 * @Dave - hey there buddy, how ya doin? Good to see you around.
 * @Bugs - be careful what you wish for ... :-) — Ched : <font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ?  12:19, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Signpost mention
Hi, just a courtesy note to inform you that I am mentioning you by username in the Discussion report including in the next issue of The Signpost. You can see the draft text here. Please leave any feedback on the talk page there. --Surturz (talk) 06:58, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Given the nature of that rag, its background color should be yellow. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:56, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

email
I just re-enabled mine .. try it now. — Ched : <font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ? 13:14, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Tarc
I don't know if you noticed, but he was warned by Arbcom for his behavior in the Muhammad case which closed a few days ago. Tarc and Anthonyhcole have a bit of history related to that. You have yet to be appointed ANI clerk, so let someone else deal with them two until then. ASCIIn2Bme (talk) 16:04, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * If you or someone else want to propose banning Tarc from ANI, that's up to you. I just don't like censorship of good-faith comments, even when they're vulgar or pointed, as long as the don't violate the rules in some severe way. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:06, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

note ..
you've got mail — Ched : <font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ? 16:47, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

ANI
BB, if I recall correctly you said you'd take a one month holiday from commenting at ANI. If so, what's this about?   Will Beback    talk    20:43, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Psst~! Wanna see another senseless driveby?

 * This guy says that I refuse to get the point, what gives? What audacity~?!? Can't stand my style of humour~? I swear Don Rickles would have torn him to shreds~! The nerve of the drive-by with a big-butt inner child after getting a boot in there (courtesy of Don Henley and The Eagles), of all the places... on his own talk page~! Sheesh~! -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 16:06, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Strange. But it's his talk page, so he can zap stuff at will. (As long as he tells Will to stay alert for flying objects.) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:22, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Not before he came over to mine and rant to me about me biting a pointy newbie who had worn out my patience. Well, he couldn't take the heat when I pointed him in the direction of WP:DTTR and after I made a promise to him that I'll take him to ANI for repeatedly harrassing me. BTW, Will is coming out with his new Men in Black 3 movie (not the Men in Black (1934 film)), can't wait~! -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 19:45, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey, maybe you've heard this one: Like Elvis, the Three Stooges didn't die; they just went home. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:50, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yup, Elvis has left the building... and so did the guy. Claims to be retired, fifty bucks says he'll be back with a pitch fork... because he forgot his axe after grinding it at my talk page. The nerve... -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 20:01, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * He's back... I wonder where he hid that pitch fork~?!? -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 07:09, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Bugs... I found it~! After returning from retirement, he just refuses to get the point and went on to stir the hornet's nest. Now, if only I can find that axe he was grinding... you want to help rein in here? -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 12:18, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I have to get to work. I'll see what I can find out, later in the day. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 12:25, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Alrighty... and don't forget my fifty bucks! -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 12:31, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay guys, let's please stop pushing buttons. Abhijay isn't to thrilled about this thread, and frankly, neither am I.  - F ASTILY  (TALK)  03:18, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * What does Articles for deletion/Dico si Tiganas have to do with anything? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:03, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yup! What has that got to do with me? He steps into a minefield of his own accord, I didn't hold a gun to his head when he did that, so why try his luck doing a drive-by on me now? Frankly, he just picked on the wrong person here on WP. IF you want to know how I return favour, tell him to change his stinky attitude and I'll adjust mine accordingly. FWIW, I forgave him despite a lack of an official apology from him, what else does he want? Taj Mahal? (PS: I'm done talking to him, tell him to stay inside his circle and everything will be fine. The nerve...) -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 05:57, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I think Fastily meant to link this diff, which is the one immediately preceding the seemingly unrelated thing about the AfD. Doc   talk  06:27, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Considering how badly the admin botched the Centpaccr situation, and considering the other slings and arrows he's had aimed at him recently, maybe he should mind his own store first. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:31, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Brilliant~! The troll just went to one of your regular feeding trough to stick his pointy head, despite my forgiving of him and the interaction ban I've imposed earlier on. Now, if that is not having an axe to grind, I really don't know what is. Perhaps the troll is really bored? Or did he forgot he was supposed to be on vacation as he claimed? The nerve of someone who claims that I get on his nerve... forget it, I won't even respond there (per WP:DENY), no point talking to someone who persistently disregard the interaction ban and wants to try his luck further, eh? Do as you deem fit, my dear wabbit. FWIW, I'm gearing up for the weekend, an airshow is coming up and I got trade visitor pass, woot~! Best and out. -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 00:04, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm tryin to avoid ANI like the plague. Have a good weekend! ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:36, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The plague? Whooops~! Forgot your last bit there... but it has a nice ring to that, reminds me of Fisher Stevens as Eugene "The Plague" Belford from the 1995 MGM movie Hackers (starring Angelina Jolie and Jonny Lee Miller). Oooh... I like the movie soundtacks too~! -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 00:50, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

<--Dave, I know you've looked at Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents; please do so again, at your leisure--and don't be discussing that other editor again. Bugs, are you in charge yet of ANI? If so, feel free to close that discussion. Gotta go--Fiddler on the Roof is on TV. Toodles, Drmies (talk) 03:47, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Am I "in charge yet" of ANI? Well, only if a self-imposed ban qualifies as being "in charge". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:23, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I thought you were going to run the show, yes! Drmies (talk) 04:29, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Instead, I ran from the show. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:30, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Heavens to Murgatroyd! Bugs, now you remind me of Snagglepuss and one of his catchphrase "Exit, stage left!"... -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 11:02, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Trollolol
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Dougweller (talk) 17:44, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Expert opinion required
See Reference_desk/Humanities. Discuss, with particular reference to "I dream of Genie, she's a light brown hare" ;-) AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:36, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Dirty Hanky
TC will get a stiffy when he see's what you did, lol.  He  iro 05:03, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * If so, his "Trojan" might come in handy. :) Be cautious about that abbreviation TC, though. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:06, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Roger Wilco. On a more serious note tho, we should probably let the conversation on that page die, I'm sure it's bordering on what some would consider disruptive. I plan on leaving it alone, an impasse has been reached until such times as they retract their legal threats. Have a good one,  He  iro 05:15, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know about disruptive, but it's veering off on a tangent having little or nothing to do with the editor in question. Yeh, probably should be left alone. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:18, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Arbitration cases
Hi Bugs, please refrain from making comments such as the "Weekly Reader" one on any Arbitration case page. That's not a personal attack, I grant you that, but it's an inflammatory remark all the same and you're perfectly aware of it. If you have something constructive to add to the discussion, do feel free to intervene, but please do not post anything provocative. Thanks. Salvio Let's talk about it! 20:13, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Why does that user get a free pass to say and do anything they want? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:00, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Assuming, for the sake of the argument, that Selina does indeed get special treatment, what purpose can be served by making rather puerile attacks on her website? And on one of the pages of the arbitration case regarding the enforcement of the civility policy, of all places? It can only cause drama... Salvio  Let's talk about it! 22:02, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The one editor raised the point of the double-standard that this Kyle seems to think is an eternal right - to say anything about anyone, without impunity. And given the ultra-childish nature of that website, you had best lose your own personally-attacking terminology. Puerile? I couldn't possibly descend to that website's level of "puerileness", even if I tried. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:10, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Deep breath Bugs. Patience.  If someone is here to cause trouble, they will eventually trip themselves up (aka Plaxico), and the community will descend upon them.  Yes, there are a lot of very juvenile people there.  There also a lot of disgruntled people there who wanted to be a part of this community - but for whatever reason, they were banished.  Perhaps even a few unjustly.  There are also some good folks there from here that make their points quite well.  I understand why you feel the way you do - honest.  But this Selina person is posting in very high-profile areas, so if she digs a hole too deep (see WP:ROPE), then she'll be sent packing.  It's not always a bad idea to point out our own short-comings; so long as we look at them objectively and then improve those faults.  I know you've seen more than your share of things gone wrong here; just don't let a website mess with the wabbit's calm center.  It's all good - life will weave it's way to where it's supposed to be.  Take care, and don't let Elmer or Daffy get to ya. :-) — Ched : <font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ?  23:52, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * But what about Marvin? - The Bushranger One ping only 23:58, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Martians are good for nothing! They shit on people's lawns with their filty tripods and make disgusting honking sounds. Instead of sending probes why don't they blow that shithole of a f...ing planet out of the sky. I'm sorry, that's all I got to say on this. Slight Smile  01:35, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

NOTE - I am currently swamped with work projects and will have at most only a small daily time slice for wikipedia. ); ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:23, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

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awards'n milestones
he just doesn't get it; I'm about to give up. Now he messed up the formatting. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 05:57, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * He's well past 3RR by now, isn't he? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:42, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know; that's not even the issue. I cannot handle people who are just... dumb fools. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 06:47, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * should let you know that I am rather intolerant of personal attacks. Unless they are true. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:57, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * True story indeed. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 07:00, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Nice work
Happened to be in a discussion on AN/I today, and it reminded me of our very disparate view of things a few weeks ago. I thought it only proper to tell you I'm impressed with your work over at the reference desks - the answer about the coffins was great. Risker (talk) 05:05, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Not sure what you're getting at, but thanks. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:33, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I wasn't "getting at" anything, except that I came away from reading it feeling well informed on a subject that seems so mundane. It was a good job. Risker (talk) 03:07, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, I don't really remember the details, but thanks for digging it. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:11, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
 * ^^ that's why I have so much respect for her. ijs  ("digging it"? ... mmm ... well that's just to "die for" .. k - so I'm not as good with the puns) — Ched : <font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ?  16:27, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

AN/I discussion
Bugs, you may already have seen it but the discussion you started at AN/I now has a proposal from me for an extension of your AN/I topic ban. Just letting you know in case you miss it. <font face="century gothic" color="#0E6E2D">Kim Dent-Brown  <font face="century gothic" size="1" color="#0E6E2D">(Talk)  00:51, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You're out of line. You don't know anything about the Favonian situation and me. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:53, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed I don't. Which is exactly why I am able to say that your report at AN/I is spurious and a violation of your topic ban; I can judge your report purely on its merits. Bugs, what the hell is up? Have you got a deathwish? Whatever is up between you two, this is the wrong battleground to continue the war. <font face="century gothic" color="#0E6E2D">Kim Dent-Brown  <font face="century gothic" size="1" color="#0E6E2D">(Talk)  01:00, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Page move
Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you recently tried to give Everybody Works but Father a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into Everybody Works But Father. This is known as a "cut and paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is needed for attribution and various other purposes. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Thank you. --Several Pending (talk) 09:04, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Wow, this is going to be good. Several Pending, have you read WP:DTTR? <font face="century gothic" color="#0E6E2D">Kim Dent-Brown  <font face="century gothic" size="1" color="#0E6E2D">(Talk)  09:10, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, what's needed is to get the whole thing under "But" instead of "but". Could you handle that for me? Thank you! ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 09:15, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

AN
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.--Crossmr (talk) 03:21, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't see anything there. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:31, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

WP:ANI
Hey, Bugs! Wow - this is a "dilly of a pickle". What is going to happen with this, do you think, and what is it leading towards? You must know that they are going to get you if you go back to your "old ways" on either of those two boards - a more formal, RfC-based community  will be requested if this one doesn't pass (or they will bring the old one back, as has been suggested). I think you've honored the spirit of your self-imposed topic ban, and started a thread that was very ill-advised. The desire to silence you grows stronger, or at least remains strong, and perhaps it's best to stay on a break from it, as you have been. All the best, and good luck with this unpleasantness! Doc  talk  00:39, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't much care at this point. I've taken all the admin-type pages off my watch list. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:13, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Speedy Gonzales: ¡Ay, caramba! It's the passover... avoid it like the plague~!!! ¡Ándele! ¡Ándele! ¡Arriba! ¡Arriba! ¡Epa! ¡Epa! ¡Epa! Yeehaw! -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 16:52, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Sí. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 10:48, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for coming to my assistance
I don't think SoG crowd is going to do stuff now that I've blown the whistle. Soxwon (talk) 19:56, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Cooper
Regarding the ANI thread on Besse Cooper...I don't view my engaging at Talk:Besse Cooper as a "caution", and I certainly don't appreciate the thought that me being an administrator makes a difference. This is a case of WP:CONSENSUS, pure and simple, and any editor can - and should - feel free to engage in the discussion. I already expressed the opinion that it wasn't a matter for ANI...for you to then say (paraphrasing) "it's resolved because an admin stepped in" suggests far more than I intended or feel is appropriate. Of course, you're free to disagree, but I don't like the thought that an admin saying "we need to achieve consensus" carries any more weight than, for example, if you had said so. Frank &#124;  talk  19:04, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The ANI issue is resolved, because he wouldn't listen to me, but he listened to you, and now he's using the talk page instead of edit-warring. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:02, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You miss my point completely. This isn't about one person listening to another. It's about your belief that admin action was necessary in the first place (it wasn't) and did anything to improve the situation (it didn't). You did not engage with Derby; you simply made a comment that was not designed to improve the situation, then went to ANI, and then, incredibly, declared the matter resolved when clearly no consensus had (or, indeed, has) been reached. Frank  &#124;  talk  02:32, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I went to ANI for help. You gave the needed help. Thank you! ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:35, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

A Very Muppety Problem
Hello Baseball Bugs, approximately two months ago, you and I spoke of an IP hopper (which you named "Kermit") who was causing disruptions on The Muppets article and other associated ones. Shortly thereafter, the page was given semi-protection and the IP blocked from editing. It had appeared to end successfully. Unfortunately, it looks like Kermit is back at it again (under a new IP). I'm hoping you can assist me on tackling this problem again. I have written a new section on the article's talk page and left two messages on Kermit's talk page. I would be much obliged to your help, thanks! ~ Jedi94  (talk) 21:30, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm supposed to stay away from admin-like activities for the foreseeable future. However, the admin (User:Frank) who posted in the previous section is a helpful sort. I recommend you go to him and ask for advice on this matter. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:37, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the advice. I'll send a message to Frank as soon as I can! ~ Jedi94  (talk) 21:40, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

"No harm, no foul"
Hi Bugs. My apologies for inadvertent trolling here. I guess I read too much This Modern World and Tom the Dancing Bug cartoons, and should have flagged the comment "political cartoonists who hate freedom" as satirical. Then again, I started the Republican Party Reptile article, so who knows what my political views really are? --Shirt58 (talk) 11:57, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Reptile? Pfft, everybody knows the real GOP animal ambassador is Republican Rabbit. ;) - The Bushranger One ping only 18:07, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the Bicycle Kick
You can read my explanation of the information provided on my user page, which is from where Keysanger took it. More than likely, he has a scheme in plan; but he likes to keep me in suspense. The key determinant of why neither Arafael or me wrote that is that message is that the alleged name provided to User:Arafael was false. In fact, it was probably somebody from Wikimedia Chile who created some fake account and made the Facebook post (in order to accuse us of canvassing). Regards.-- MarshalN20 | <font color="Olive">T <font color="Silver">al <font color="Olive">k 13:19, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, I have a good memory, it's just short. What's this about again? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:35, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * This is a really, really, really long subject; so we'll have to take the (Acme) time machine! Warning: The following list may include some attempts at being funny about this serious, albeit silly, matter
 * Back in 2007 (or 2006), if you recall (I think you were somehow involved with this) I got into a content dispute with a Chilean user (Selecciones de la Vida) and a British user (English Peasant) over the information in the Bicycle Kick article.
 * After these users got their way on the article they abandoned it (not surprisingly). So I finally managed to make my improvements to it (which is the current version of it). It's really impossible to make a good article out of it given the tremendous lack of information available to do it.
 * In 2010 (or 2011), I made an expedition to the Spanish wikipedia to bring the light of my work into their article. Instead, I met the tribe of aggressive Chilean folk (otherwise known as Wikimedia Chile), whom brought along their warriors and chief (aka, administrator) to block any and all attempts at me trying to improve the article. My main argument was for them to change their article's from Chilena (Spanish for "The Chilean move") to Tijera (Spanish for "Scissors kick"). I based my argument on dictionaries (particularly one from the University of Barcelona, written by some person with the strange name of "Nomdedeu Rull"; I'm assuming his name must be Catalan), and they based their position on the made-up statistic that "chilena is the common name in Spanish".
 * I somehow managed to survive my expedition and made it all the way to the Falkland Islands (which is not that far from Chile). There I began trying to help the editors improve the article for GA status. We made progress and even got a fancy new introduction made (IMO, that introduction is good enough even for an FA article; except the rest of the article is not quite up to it).
 * Keysanger is, apparently, a Chilean (or related to Chile in some form or another) who has apparently the task to hunt me down here in the English wikipedia. We've had our fierce duels in the War of the Pacific article, where we ended up getting the peace pipe stuck down our throats by friendly administrators. I am relatively content with the outcome, which was a neutral solution; however, Keysanger is in no way happy about it.
 * Finally, leading to Keysanger's comment and your response to it.
 * This is a really silly situation. Keysanger's little post in the language board not only demonstrates that he is still looking at my user page (which I really don't mind that much), but that he has something up his sleeve. Given your reply to his message, my purpose writing all of this to you is to keep you informed of the matter just in case you may end up getting involved in this matter (which, honestly speaking, is quite possible).
 * And this, Bugs, brings us to the end of our ride through the time machine. Best of wishes.-- MarshalN20 | <font color="Olive">T <font color="Silver">al <font color="Olive">k 00:12, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Wow, so you wait 4 or 5 years and you still end up getting kicked around like a soccer ball. Could you maybe provide me with some key diff's so I can figure out what this is about? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:20, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you Bugs, but at this point using diffs is practically pointless (there's just too many of them). Bicycle kick right now is on the peripheral because (1) Selecciones de la Vida and English Peasant (who is now "King of the Northeast" or something like that) never bothered to improve the article after the content disputes which, by all means purposes, they "won"; and (2) The improvements which I afterwards managed to attain are limited by lack of sources. Nobody is currently disputing anything on it; except that I have no idea why Keysanger made that translation request in the Language Board. His intentions are
 * The center of the current problem is the War of the Pacific article. You can just look at the Talk:War of the Pacific page to see the big mess going on right now on it. The problem is the following:
 * Keysanger wants the article to include in the text that "Bolivia declared war on Chile".
 * I want the article to retain the text which states that "Bolivia announced a state of war with Chile".
 * Keysanger bases his option on several sources which basically state that "Bolivia declared war on Chile". Generally, that would be the simple solution to the problem were it not for three things: (1) Sources exist which dispute this claim; (2) The authors which provide dates to the alleged Bolivian declaration of war contradict each other; and (3) When checking each of those dates with the actual events, none of them match with a declaration of war.
 * Keysanger claims my position is (1) original research, (2) a fringe theory, and (3) Peruvian POV. However, my position is not original research given the existence of sources which argue that Bolivia did not declare war. My position is not fringe either as a handful of sources actually dispute the existence of a declaration of war. Finally, my position is not Peruvian POV given the existence of Italian, English, and American sources.
 * Keysanger's strongest argument is the Fringe Theory one, because he has a long list of sources which repeat that "Bolivia declared war". The problem with these sources is that they are simply repeating things without going into detail about them. Only a few sources actually provide a thorough analysis of why they think Bolivia declared war. However, these few sources contradict each other on the date, and the closest concept to a declaration of war comes from the William F. Sater work which states that "Bolivia announced a state of war" with Chile (as a result of Chile invading their territory of Antofagasta without a declaration of war).
 * The neutral mediator, an Australian by the name of "Alex", ultimately agreed to include the text "Bolivia announced a state of war". So, this is why I am now trying to keep the established "consensus". On the other hand, Keysanger is still unhappy about the result. Apparently, the only way he will be happy is if he manages to get someone to block me from Wikipedia (which would then allow him to edit the War of the Pacific article to his liking). In this mess is where we go back to the Bicycle Kick question at the Language Board. What he plans to do at this point is a complete mystery to me.
 * To conclude this thing: There's just way too much WP:DRAMA involved here. To me this is all silly, particularly because Wikipedia is for me a hobby which entertains my mind (not a battleground). I know that me writing all of this to you is pointless because you want to see the diffs. I know that this isn't because you're a "bad guy" (anyone else would have just ignored the subject), but rather because without diffs you can't do much about this issue. So then you might wonder why I'm even writing all of this here? I'm writing simply to get my view across to others and to demonstrate that I'm not a POV nationalist (which is probably the picture that Keysanger wants to paint about me in the Language Board). Hopefully someday Keysanger will realize that holding a grudge against me won't get him anywhere, but there's not much else that I can do about it. Like that saying goes: "You can't make everyone happy". I do apologize to you for writing all of this bulk of text in your talk page; please do delete it (or collapse it into a box) if you want. Thank you for listening. Regards.-- MarshalN20 | <font color="Olive">T <font color="Silver">al <font color="Olive">k 02:22, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think I can help with this. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:18, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * See, I knew Keysanger was planning something: . He has taken all of my statements out of context. This reminds me of all those movies and books about obsessions; and none of them have a good ending. By the way, I have recently done a massive improvement to the Pisco Sour article. I'd like to take it for GA review, but need help with improving the English grammar. I would greatly appreciate your collaboration/suggestions on it. Best of wishes.-- MarshalN20 | <font color="Olive">T <font color="Silver">al <font color="Olive">k 16:33, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

move discussion from WP's talk page
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 * I can't speak for the blocked editor, nor do I condone edit-warring. However, I recall a year or two ago when I happened to see that image and couldn't believe it was being allowed here. It may well have been innocently chosen, but that doesn't make it appropriate for wikipedia. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:33, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Then comment at the appropriate talk page. I don't care what image is used; but edit warring and accusations of racism are not on. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:45, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you see why someone might interpret that image as being some kind of stereotype? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:59, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Taking this to your talk page. --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:01, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

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I think people who read that into the image are a little too focused on penis size. There is an extraordinarily wide range of body shapes, races, penis sizes, arm length, etc etc. You can't show them all in one image, and you can't try to insist on every characteristic being some median or average. If there's a consensus that too many things are out of proportion, then find a better one (or get a consensus that the old one is better). No, I don't agree that the image is some kind of stereotype, but that isn't even what WP is saying; he's saying that the image creator, and those supporting this image, are doing it for racist reasons. --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe if it had a white face instead of an Asian face it would be less of an issue. And if they insist on denying the obvious and reposting the illustration, then it starts to look like racism, whether it actually is or not. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:12, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * There are some perfectly well-reasoned arguments (which you may disagree with) by half a dozen people about this image at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Anatomy. Insisting that an image that has consensus not be replaced by someone screaming "racist" start to look like racism, whether it is or not? That makes no sense. --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:18, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Your comment makes no sense. What's so special about this particular image that you all want it, in particular, and no other? "Hey, Buddy, what happened? Where's the rest of it? Did they do your circumcision with a samurai sword?" ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:23, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You're not paying attention. I don't want it.  I don't care.  If you want to know why they want it, read the link. It doesn't appear they want this over any other possible image, they want this over the previous image. --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:28, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe someone should put the two male images side by side, with the caption, "Why the Allies won the War", and then maybe the lightbulb would come on. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:31, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Bugs, please stop being a dick about this. --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:39, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * LEOPOLD~! -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 16:03, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Annon drive-by again at Wikipedia talk:Reference desk...

 * See this edit, its like the shark sensed blood and *poof* jumps straight into attack mode. Let's walk away and let the ignorant one suffers fool as they so wished, shall we? -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 20:41, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep. They can have their fun. I'll treat them the way the IP treated me. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:40, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Discussion at WT:RD
Hi Bugs! Your attitude towards anonymous contributors at the reference desk is being discussed at Wikipedia_talk:RD. Since I don't know if you've been notified, I'm posting the link here, in case you might want to comment! --NorwegianBluetalk 20:56, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notice. I've had quite enough of those characters and their double-standard. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:39, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Ref-Desk Talk page
I dunno if you've noticed, but there's a discussion about you on the talk page.

Wikipedia_talk:Reference_desk/Science

APL (talk) 10:03, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

A Note
Why the long face Bugs? Please don't let those knuckleheads at the R/D talk page get you down. I hope to see you back at your finest real soon. Bred Ivy (talk) 22:27, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

So...Predictions for the upcoming season?
Personally, I'm looking at the Rays or the Red Sox making the series for the AL (with the Angels taking the west and the Tigers taking the Central). As for the NL, I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Marlins over the Phillies. For the Central, I'm going with the Cubbies and for the west...I'm going to go out on a limb and pick the Dodgers. Soxwon (talk) 13:50, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * *puts on Rays hat* - The Bushranger One ping only 16:06, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

RfC about "NOT a social network"
You might be interested in this discussion:

Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not

Is WP:NOT an extended collaborative essay, or has it been invoked in so many edit summaries that it's now the kind of  POLICY  that can get your work haled before ArbCom or the dozen exclusionist XfD pages/ censorship boards/field tribunals/military commissions/kangaroo courts ? —— Shakescene (talk) 05:20, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Deleted post
There is a discussion which concerns you at Wikipedia talk:Reference desk.  Spinning Spark  19:41, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

R. Budd Dwyer
Would you consider undoing this edit? It's great that you're not bothered by it, but, taunting aside, the talk page is better served by having a meaningful section header, so that the content can be discerned by looking at the table of contents. TJRC (talk) 23:07, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Test
From ANI:

Thou hast been accused by editors four; go forth now and battle no more; for if on yon lame wars many doth proceed to yammer; ye great Adminnes will break out ye olde bannehammer. St John Chrysostom ΔόξατωΘεώ 18:57, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Dispute resolution survey

 * Not interested. Thanks anyway. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:03, 6 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Isn;t this like asking the arsonist which brand of fire extinguisher they prefer? -- Jayron  32  04:45, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * While this one may seem funny, much funnier was that Xanderliptak also got one of these notices. He's banned from both wikipedia and commons, so it would be interesting to see what he thinks of "dispute resolution" here. (His approach to dispute resolution was to threaten a suit. Yeh, that works.) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:55, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Salvidrim et al.
I saw your edit on Sluzzelin's talk page. If the sock is related to the named, banned editor, who is   Salvidrim!   ? Just wondering. Bielle (talk) 23:21, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Check the IP's block log and WP:ANI. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:49, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Salvidrim is the one who's been putting the evidence together against, who is the blocked user. I have my own subpage for just such a purpose: User:Doc9871/Voice Cast Vandal. Salvidrim's a good guy, Tailsman67 is the problem. Doc   talk  23:57, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, sorry about the confusion. It occurs to me that, other considerations aside, the guy's got no business editing here, because his English and his spelling are both atrocious. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:00, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * New rangeblock implemented on the T67 IPs. Doc   talk  00:06, 6 April 2012 (UTC)


 * "Salvidrim's a good guy" - Gee, thanks, I'm gonna blush! ;)  Salvidrim!   00:31, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I recommend you post it on your user page (complete with citation to the diff on this page where Doc said it.) That kind of endorsement is worth a hundred rusty stars. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:34, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * @Salvidrim: Yes and indeed you are, considering that there are some Admins out there who can't even differentiate between a good clean sock and dirty worn sock on Wikipedia (wait a minute... there's actually no difference!); thence, sock detector/hunter like Bugs and me are always misundertsood. -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 00:38, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * That one was totally under my radar, until yesterday evening. I need to get my hosiery geiger counter back from the shop. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:41, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * ^_^  Salvidrim!   00:44, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Bugs, is it that time again to shop for a new radar? -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 00:51, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It took poor Bugs over a year to retrieve his last one (charged for but unrepaired) from the repair shop at Circuit City. Bad enough to deal with an ever-changing cast of clueless, underpaid technicians and overseas digital "help" desks, but bailiffs, attorneys and special masters in bankruptcy must be far worse... —— Shakescene (talk) 01:01, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeh, I keep making bad choices. Before that it was CompUSA. I'm now waiting to get it back from Best Buy. Nothing could go wrong there, could it? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:05, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Bugs, about them radar repair jobs... stop getting them amateurs to do the job of a professional like Lockeeh Martian (Good gravy!!!) Lockheed Martin, wil'ya? -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 01:21, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * But Bug's radar sock-detector came from the Acme Corporation. No way anything that bears that proud marque could fail ... ever! —— Shakescene (talk) 20:28, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Doc. Only after I went through AN/I and then to Salvidrim/Tailsman67 did I realise that it was Salvidrim writing about Talisman67, just as you explained. I didn't mean to stir things up or to criticize Bugs. I was, truly, puzzled. Older and a little wiser, Bielle (talk) 01:29, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * On the contrary, I appreciate having folks look out for when I mess up. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:37, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Play ball!
Happy opening day. Toddst1 (talk) 03:13, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you! The Cubs lost to the Nats. That does not bode well. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:15, 6 April 2012 (UTC)


 * But the Jays finally won after 5 hours and 14 minutes over 16 innings. I'm glad I wasn't sitting in one of those tiny seats. Bielle (talk) 03:32, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey! Almost a doubleheader! ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:33, 6 April 2012 (UTC)


 * . . . except that one goes prepared (cushions, tuque, two thermoses, fur-lined boots) for a double-header and not even the Baseball Commissioner would be evil enough to schedule such a thing in early April in Toronto. Bielle (talk) 03:45, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I was going to ask if the Dome had malfunctioned, and then I checked and saw they were playing in Cleveland, where it has been known to snow on opening day, so that explains it. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:49, 6 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Has the Baseball season started already? A pointless occupation, from what I can see: someone dressed in thermal underwear stands on a pile of dirt, and throws a ball past another man also dressed in thermal underwear, and carrying a club. The man with the club swings at it and misses, three times, and then he has an argument with another man entirely, before storming off in a huff. The English have a much more sophisticated attitude to sports ;-) AndyTheGrump (talk) 05:46, 6 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, the English have got it down when it comes to "sport". Vivian Smith-Smythe-Smith was the horse I bet on, but he finished second. Doc   talk  06:40, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * As a native of London resident in the 'States, I can say, sure, the English have more civilised sports, burying themselves in cold mud on windy days playing Rugby or Association football ('soccer to you Yanks) with no protective gear above the shin guard and cup, or playing all-day cricket for several days in a row in the sun and wind (endlessly running back and forth, not even around a diamond). And having a seat for every spectator is a new-fangled innovation (goodbye to the 'Kop) forced by government and strong public opinion after a couple of deadly football riots. Of course a certain Grump has nothing on the Poet of Empire:"ye fawned on the Younger Nations for the men who could shoot and ride! Then ye returned to your trinkets; then ye contented your souls With the flannelled fools at the wicket or the muddied oafs at the goals." Kipling, "The Islanders" —— Shakescene (talk) 09:12, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * He was just bitter because he had to go through life with the name "Rudyard", as opposed to Bill or George or whatever. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:43, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * As opposed to Orville? Or Wilbur? Or Millard? Or Theodore? Or Alben? Or Adlai? Or Hannibal? Us Brits don't have a monopoly of wierd names... ;-) AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:04, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Of course, if you want really weird names, consider poor Fly-Fornication... AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:20, 6 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I would not call Hillsborough a riot within shooting distance of Liverpool.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:06, 6 April 2012 (UTC)


 * The Hillsborough stampede, coinciding with my 40th birthday, was a panic rather than a riot, but I thought football riots (of which the most deadly involving English fans was abroad, at Heysel Stadium in Belgium), were the reason that standing on the terraces is no longer allowed. —— Shakescene (talk) 00:56, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I heard that there would be no beer at Wrigley Field this year, because the Cubs lost the opener. Don't the cans have pop tabs now? Edison (talk) 17:52, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Check the Talk page re "strikeout." I have nailed down the time and place for the infamous 5K Inning, though some details remain obscure. WHPratt (talk) 13:20, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Seder
Only one night back then. Custom evolved due to calendar uncertainties in the Diaspora. Got kept because old customs never die, even when there's a set calendar.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:04, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, it was my understanding that that was the reason the early church couldn't figure out exactly when Jesus was crucified. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:42, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Sports uniform images
Hi Baseball Bugs, I stumbled upon your (4-year-old) participation in through Silent Wind of Doom's talk page. I'm currently defending a few of my uniform images in deletion discussions, and I'm wondering whether you're aware of any similar, more recent incidents I could learn from...and whether you would mind looking at to help me plug any holes. Thanks!  Two Hearted River  ( paddle /  fish ) 18:12, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I commented. No guarantees, but it's worth a try. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:07, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Much obliged!  Two Hearted River  ( paddle /  fish ) 02:10, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Greetings
Happy Easter, we spoke about Easter at Xmas if you remember! Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 16:17, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Back at ya. I would have spoken up sooner, but I got egged. :( ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:02, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Circus is in town again...

 * Fair notice, someone just started staging a circus show on User talk:Courcelles and I really don't know what to make of it. ... -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 15:41, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I've seen a lot worse, from admins that are still hanging around. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:02, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Worst, they're seen to be hopping around and egging others~! *mock horror* -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 00:12, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * So, on this one, are you Yes or No or Undecided? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:22, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Uhhhh... -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 15:02, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll take that as a solid "Maybe". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:02, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Donner Party
Or a "snow check" as it were. — Ched : <font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ? 00:42, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Everything they ate was in the freezer. Leftovers. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:45, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * So keeping things from spoiling to use at the "Dahmer party"?  Ya know, this is some really morbid humor Bugs.  I may just leave it at that. — Ched : <font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ?  01:57, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * We can't change history, but we can make fun of it. Maybe you recall what Dahmer said to Mrs. Bobbitt? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:59, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Not sure I want to know .. but go ahead. ... — Ched : <font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ? 02:06, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You must be the only one that didn't hear this one. :) "Ya gonna eat that?" ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:01, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Leonard Baldy/Gapers block
There's no indication in either article that he coined that term. If it's true, let's put it in the article body (with a reference) instead of referring to it obliquely through the see also section. Pburka (talk) 03:53, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It used to be there, someone clobbered it. I'll look at it tomorrow. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:59, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it was actually Irv Hayden. But the sources are contradictory. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:55, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Diffs
Until that AN/I thread, I had no idea you could diff two different pages at once. I learn something new every day! 28bytes (talk) 15:03, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Also: WP:V doesn't require inline citations for birth dates. I'm surprised you think it does, given that most of your articles don't have them. 28bytes (talk) 15:18, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, cool!  Salvidrim!   05:39, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Griffith photos
Ah, my mistake! I should've noticed the split roof on the right field side like I noticed it on the LF side in the other photo. I'll request a re-naming of the file and I'll fix the series article. Thanks for the spot! Delaywaves &bull;&#32; talk  00:22, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Tiddly pong.
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I trust that is crystal clear. → ROUX   ₪  23:48, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * So clear a 4-year-old Latin student could understand it. (I, of course, cannot make head or tail of it.) Thank you for the test. The orange bar still shows up even if I don't watch the page. I wonder how it works? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:51, 23 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Not Latin. I suspect it works automagically by polling the page history and then inserting the new messages banner into the notification space... the MediaWiki documentation should explain it I think (I have only skimmed the docs, it's very dense). → ROUX   ₪  23:53, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm a little dense myself tonight (as compared with other times). Meanwhile, I did run that ipso non-facto through Google Translate, and it's fair to say it sounds better in Latin. I wonder if there's a Latin translation of "Jabberwocky"? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:59, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Hora aderat briligi. Nunc et Slythia Tova... → ROUX   ₪  00:05, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * What's the Latin for "Awesome!" ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:10, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Re: Conservapedia

 * I never go to conservapedia, but I suspect even they don't sink so low as to level obnoxious personal attacks at Obama.

Er, you really need to visit Conservapedia. The entire site is nothing but an obnoxious personal attack. Viriditas (talk) 06:35, 24 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Worse than Weekly Reader? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:58, 24 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't know anything about Weekly Reader, but take a look at this:  Do you see any references?  Good luck finding some.  But seriously, if you want to have a good, long laugh, read this:   That's the kind of thing that can cure alcoholics.  I mean, you literally feel drunk after reading that, so there's no need to consume the real stuff. Viriditas (talk) 12:24, 24 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Ugh. The difference, I suppose, is that wikipedia alleges to be neutral, while fascipedia makes no such pretense. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:46, 24 April 2012 (UTC)


 * However, they do pretend to be trustworthy, which may be just as bad.-- MarshalN20 | <font color="Olive">T <font color="Silver">al <font color="Olive">k 23:19, 24 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Trust no one. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:06, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Reading Conservapedia reminds me of Nietzsche's aphorism: "In truth, there was only one Christian, and he died on the cross." These guys over at Conservapedia are about as anti-Christian as you can get. Viriditas (talk) 03:54, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Perfect games
Totally. I've watched the "tape" at least a dozen times now, and to me Ryan's stand-and-whine is almost as bad as Jim Joyce's call that robbed Galarraga of his rightful perfect game. If Ryan had started running when he realized he needed to run—as you say, if he'd just done his job—that would have been at worst a VERY close play...and who even knows how accurate Pierzynski's throw would have been under paramount pressure.—DCGeist (talk) 04:52, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Ed Schultz IPsocks
Ugh. See. JoeSperrazza (talk) 00:54, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Maybe good for a laugh?
This guy wants to apologize, for what little that's worth. Getting their request off the queue if nothing else. Danger! High voltage! 07:33, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

About Million Dollar Arm
Say it ain't so, Joe? --Shirt58 (talk) 13:56, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I saw something about that on ESPN a few years ago. Interesting story. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:49, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

British commando frogmen
Please acknowledge the explanation I give in my edits: They are clearly following WP:MOS. Thanks. --79.223.4.134 (talk) 23:22, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You are edit-warring over trivialities, and you will be stopped. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:24, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * So are you. Whether my changes are trivial or not, they follow WP:MOS. Please provide an explanation if you think WP:MOS should not apply here. (Hey, that would be a first! Beyond never managed to give one!) --79.223.4.134 (talk) 23:26, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Your alleged explanations are bogus. And now that you are deliberately following BMK specifically to revert him, you won't be here long. Not under your current sock, anyway. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:28, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * And the IP is now blocked for 24. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:50, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Urgent
Thank you. To be mentioned in the same sentence with The Master is both thrilling and humbling. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→

Spaces
Hey Bugs! Regarding the spacing thing, a single blank line in the edit box actually won't generate the blank line when it's rendered, you need two of them to do so. Unfortunately there are people and automated processes that go around removing double blank lines. That's where the hidden comment comes in -- the comment doesn't generate anything itself, but the combination of the blank line above it and the blank line below it creates, when rendered, the single line of blank space. As for the complaint about mobile phone, these folks have been trotting out that for years, and I've asked them for some sort of proof for years, but no one has actually done so. They seem to just assume that the blank line is in some way bad on a mobile device, without ever having checked to see if it's the case. I'm a reasonable guy (really!), and if someone would just show me the problem, I'd stop immediately, but no one ever has. The truth of the matter is, their complaints aren't based on observed problems, there complaints are based on their belief that MoS must be followed no matter what, which is not the case, not as long as it remains a guideline and not a policy. Best, Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:25, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanaton. Manual-of-style fanatics are one of the scourges of this place. C'est la viki. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:29, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * @Beyond My Ken: The mobile phone example is one example.  The concept is that it is creating an extra line.  It has been universal that the line is unnecessary.  I see that you are the only person who uses it.  And I don't know how many times I have to tell you but since this is a style issue, if you feel it is an issue, you should bring it up at WP:MOS.  People have told you to stop.  WP:IAR does not work in your case as discussed at length at your talk page.  I ask you to cease and desist this continued white space making.Curb Chain (talk) 04:01, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Why are you so obsessed with this? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:44, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

hi
you seem to ask me a question about "Crystal ball to support OR ?" but that was a question in relation to a comment above your comment, not actually yours.

It's basically the concept of determining what the article title should be based upon legal research and speculating what might happen in the future. Penyulap  ☏  11:59, 11 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Rogereeny. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:13, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

FYI:
For Your Information (no action required, but you may choose to participate):

Requests for comment/Wtshymanski

Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Wtshymanski

--Guy Macon (talk) 18:27, 14 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Good thing, since I don't recall ever encountering that user. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:13, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Aiyyo, Bugsy!
Just lettin' you know that I'm still here. :) Hope all's been well, my friend! &mdash; Cinemaniac <font color="black" face="Comic Sans MS">(talk •  contribs) 22:35, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey-Hey! Greetings! ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:12, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Haven't been very active admittedly the past year. How's it all been, though, 'round these parts? &mdash; Cinemaniac <font color="black" face="Comic Sans MS">(talk •  contribs) 07:29, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Taos, New Mexico
The article has already been though quite a bit of clean up. The tags are over the top. If you read the article you will see that this is indeed the case. Yworo (talk) 21:40, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * In the ANI complaint, you mention that it's your home town. That suggests the subject could be too close for you to maintain objectivity. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:44, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe, but his accusations are false. I've done all the necessary cleanup years ago and have monitored the article since then. Read it. Feel free to point out what you feel are problems on the talk page. I respect you and trust you to be objective. Yworo (talk) 21:49, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, I've actually not to my knowledge actually written much if any of the content. I understand precisely what you mean about objectivity. My work on the article has been primarily removals and cleanup, not additions. Yworo (talk) 21:55, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

A beer for you!

 * Thank you, although in my case carrot juice would have been more fitting. :)
 * There's no accounting for the deletionist mentality here. :( ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:17, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

It was time
OK, I have finally given in and decided to create an account. What now? Curt Figknoll (talk) 23:59, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Jolly good. Find a subject that interests you, and look for articles that need improvement. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:14, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Seems to be articles on just about everything. Is there one for word scrambles? Curt Figknoll (talk) 00:17, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know. Anagrams aren't my thing. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:25, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit tests on Jeanie with the Light Brown Hair
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Another sock?

 * Hey Bugs, care to go through the guy's very short contribution history and tell me who might it remind you of? Because for a newbie on WP, he is way too knowledgable, especially for his first post about you on 22 March 2012. Thanks! -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 16:56, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hard telling. But he's either this Maryland IP, or he's messing with us. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:07, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * It appears to be yet another sock of "The Master-Sock-Puppeteer", or some imposter sockpuppeting to appear to be sock of said MSP.  We must find a checkuser to confirm our suspicions! 46.249.56.24 (talk) 19:58, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Good point 24. Buggs, can you check to see if the underlining IP's are originating from near a certain square in Portland, or possibly from a public library in a very large city on the East Coast of the United States?  I have reason to believe the "MSP" as 24 calls him, may have access to a private long range jet, or some other type of motorized vehicle, and is probably traveling long distances to obtain a variety of IP's and avoid scrutiny.  In the mean time, I am going undercover(El Si style) and ask a few questions at the reference desk, and see if I can stir up any info there.  31.186.86.42 (talk) 21:47, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey, that reminds me... Here's one from the 1970s: "How do you keep a Polack in suspense?" ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:28, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * EEEK! *mock horror* It's him again... and he's stalking me now! -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 21:30, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. The sharks will get him eventually. >:) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:20, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. The sharks will get him eventually. >:) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:20, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Romney’s Daffy Duck vs. Obama’s Bugs Bunny
In the Jeff Greenfield Meta Theory of American politics I hadn't encountered before. See [http://news.yahoo.com/romney%E2%80%99s-daffy-duck-vs--obama%E2%80%99s-bugs-bunny--sufferin%E2%80%99-succotash--is-it-duck-season-in-2012-.html Romney’s Daffy Duck vs. Obama’s Bugs Bunny: Sufferin’ succotash! Is it rabbit season in 2012?] and the original 2008 column Bugs Bunny vs. Daffy Duck: Why voters always choose the wascally wabbit for president. (about Obama vs Clinton). —— Shakescene (talk) 00:45, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Reference desks and soapboxing
Dear Bugs, it would probably pay to attend to people's suggestions that you stop soapboxing in a thread where they repeatedly suggest to you that you stop this. Posting references to reliable sources that draw into question material previously posted, or references to similarly "critical" perspectives is absolutely fine and a highly productive way to answer the original poster's question. As is linking to articles. Fifelfoo (talk) 02:55, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The OP is the soapboxer. Shut down that thread and all will be well. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:55, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Rosas
Perhaps we have a case of reincarnation here? --Lecen (talk) 01:50, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

You mean...
this? ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 23:21, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Dat's da guy. 3 years ago, rather than 2. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:22, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Help Delete a Template
Dave needs help here. Evidently he feels that there exists a template that is perfectly suited for use against him. Lend a hand if you would against vandalism by !voting to have this heinous template deleted. 31.186.86.42 (talk) 17:45, 10 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the tip. I expect Dave will comment further. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:37, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Editing closed conversations
Hi, this is the second time that I can recall where you have edited a conversation that I have closed. While I do really appreciate the humor in that particular joke, somebody came along right after you and offered quite explicit medical advice. That's the problem with continuing to edit a closed section, even if your specific content isn't a problem - it effectively reopens it. I would just kindly like to ask you to consider leaving closed conversations lie, unless you have a reason not to. Regards, Falconus p t   c 23:30, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Oy. I keep forgetting that some folks here have only double-digit HQ's. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:37, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I do know that that was a joke; I did understand it, and honestly it wasn't half bad. But I'm just saying that when it's closed, it probably shouldn't be edited.  What you wrote wasn't too harmful (not nearly as much so as the person that posted after you), which is why I didn't delete it immediately, but nevertheless, it did kind of defeat the purpose of closing the conversation.  I did however promise that I'd remove any new posts there, so I guess I have to go follow through now... Falconus p  t   c 00:04, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Double oy. OK, just remove both of my comments there. We don't want the humor-challenged to think they can remove skin blemishes with firearms. (Actually, they could, but there would likely be severe side effects.) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:11, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay... I actually just removed the question and all the responses. Feel free to weigh in on the ref desk talk page if you want. Falconus p  t   c 00:24, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Nah. But thanks for zapping the whole thing. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:33, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * But if you wear ear plugs it should be safe enough? Slight  Smile  00:38, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Safe enough for the ears, probably. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:46, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * And actually, I should let you know that your name has now come up in the discussion on the talk page... I personally don't have any further issues to bring up, but you might still want to take a look. Falconus p  t   c 00:43, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Nah, they haven't had anybody to yell at lately, so it's my turn. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:46, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Ivory Coast
I am working on an Cote d'Ivoire-to-Ivory Coast RM here. If no one else is interested, I'll drop it. Kauffner (talk) 04:09, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for commenting about nationality in the lede
on the Mike Royko article.

That was actually a spill over from the Herb Caen article. I added nationality into the Caen article but left the SF-based part since 3 or so editors wanted it that way. Regards, --Mollskman (talk) 12:58, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Bugs, could you please look at the Caen talk page and please comment there? The consensus seems to be to call the subject a SF-based journalist, but I am at a loss for why including his nationality as well is not ok or such a bone of contention. I am not going to revert again if others revert me now. Thank you. --Mollskman (talk) 14:21, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Matt Cain
I just had to say it. Great day for baseball. Toddst1 (talk) 13:19, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Perfect games seem to be popping up like daisies these days. They'd better start letting Sammy Sosa provide the hitters with bats. ;) - The Bushranger One ping only 16:35, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, if you count 2 this year as popping up like daisies. There have only been 22 in history. Toddst1 (talk) 17:11, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 * And 2 in 2010 (almost 3, except for the umpire's goof), and 1 in 2009. So 5 of the 22 have occurred within the last 4 seasons. In the first century of MLB since the founding of the National League, there had been only 9 of them. The remaining 13 have come in the last 3 decades. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:44, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Help Survey
Hi there, my name's Peter Coombe and I'm a Wikimedia Community Fellow working on a project to improve Wikipedia's help system. At the moment I'm trying to learn more about how people use and find the current help pages. If you could help by filling out this brief survey about your experiences, I'd be very grateful. It should take less than 10 minutes, and your responses will not be tied to your username in any way.

Thank you for your time,

the wub (talk) 18:07, 14 June 2012 (UTC) (Delivered using Global message delivery)


 * Thanks for your note. I don't do surveys. Good luck in your efforts. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:45, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

In case you are interested
Hi Bugs. I've read a couple interesting reviews of this book and thought I would make you aware of it. On a sad note I noticed that one of the pictures of the Bugs the Bunny has been deleted from your user page dag nab it :-( I hope that you are well and Cheers MarnetteD | Talk 22:06, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Some copyright gremlin didn't realise that that shot of our favourite carrot-muncher is In The Public Domain. I've sent a shipment from ACME to Commons DRV about it. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:08, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, and I filed an informal complaint at the deletion page. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:16, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Encyclopedia Dramatica
Suggestion: next time, per wp:legal threats report it to Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents It has been reported: Report Cheers! Jim1138 (talk) 23:32, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I know. I saw he called himself "Death Pigeon", and I just couldn't keep my warped sense of humor cooped up. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:35, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Frame from an old print of the cartoon "Falling Hare".jpg
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Frame from an old print of the cartoon "Falling Hare".jpg, has been listed at Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 00:05, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Bullying
This reversion of yours appears to me to be bullying. You said in the edit summary, "No consensus. Don't revert again or I'll report you for edit warring." However, your own action was the exact thing you were warning against; a knee-jerk reversion in the face of, as you plainly state, "no consensus". In that case, longtime article conditions stand, no change is to be made, but you did not honor that. Binksternet (talk) 01:47, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * That editor is being stupid. He's now forced me to take the Royko page off my watch list. So he wins. Now get lost. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:49, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Orange Marlin
I noticed ANI on my watch list and that piqued my curiosity. There seems to be a slow wheel war over his user rights. Since at least two of the rights are ones you can't use while blocked (I have no idea about reviewer), I can't fathom why it would matter, why a Commons admin would care, or why three different en admins would feel compelled to remove the permissions or why one admin would feel compelled to restore them. --B (talk) 04:28, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * There's something fishy going on there, and Jayron shut it down before it could be explored. However, I'm supposing he's privy to additional info and just doesn't want to get into it. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:31, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, he's OTRS, so it could be that Orange Marlin himself has asked for the permissions to be removed. (I don't know why he would, but that would explain why four different people have cared enough to try and make it happen.) --B (talk) 04:36, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It's all rather weird. Enough so that I'm taking ANI off my watchlist for awhile. Things seem to get weirder there every day. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:39, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Ha ha. The drama there can be strangely addictive - it's like watching reality TV. --B (talk) 04:42, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Beware of the garbage trucks~!

 * Hey Bugs, as you may know by now (or not)... of late, I've been the target of garbage dumping from some equally rubbish IPs. My question now being: is it time for school's summer break again? Well, if it is then I'm going to look at it from the bright side... at least they weren't drink driving. But still, we have to beware of the garbage trucks~! Thoughts~? -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 14:02, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Saw your kind words on ANI, thanks~! FWIW, IF I'd messed up, some kind Admins would have corrected me a long time ago so I'm pretty sure I'm doing the right thing here. Anyway, I'm not going to respond to rubbish from garbage trucks and if you guys are reading this, I forgive you... have a nice SUNday~! -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 04:07, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, as I just implied there, it would probably be best to drop the "bag 'em - tag 'em" thing. Even though it's funny, it gets troll-enablers riled here. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:15, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * FWIW that's my advice too. Don't stop having fun though -- it's how we lose people. Antandrus  (talk) 05:42, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * When dealing with less desirable Wikifauna, I try to use highbrow humour. Big words like "egregious" and "preposterous". - The Bushranger One ping only 05:44, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * No prize for guessing why the Tyrannosaurus rex was always such an angry creature. Gawd, I love Rodney! -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 06:16, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Then they'll accuse you of being uncivil for forcing them to use a dictionary. :( ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:49, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Those are splendiferous Bushranger. Words like these always throw my spell check off (speaking of which did you mean egregious or gregarious?) :-) I hope everyone enjoys their Sunday - especially those of you who are Dad's. MarnetteD | Talk 05:52, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Speaking of which, I just got an email from a colleague that redirected me to an advrt by Durex and it says "To all those who uses our competitor's product - Happy Father's Day!". Guess I can't argue with that logic. *lol* -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 06:03, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Very good. :) Some of the drive-bys probably use a different brand. It's called "Condominimum". :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:08, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Sacrebleu~! Look what you just made them do... -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 06:43, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Yup. I make them do everything. They are mindless robots. And some of them are not members of any political party. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:47, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe just like them recent Tea party? Lots of hot air there but where's the water to brew the tea with?? -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 06:52, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It was outsourced. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:53, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Not again... and to paraphrase an old colleague of mine: "straight into the blackhole of Calcutta!". -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 06:56, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

The ways of the Wiki, they are mysterious.  He  iro 05:54, 17 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm glad you posted this HR I spent 20 minutes looking for it earlier and couldn't remember where I had seen it. As to political parties some of you might enjoy this . The relevant one is for Sunday June 17th so if you "toon" in on Monday you will have to use the calendar function just above the comic. MarnetteD | Talk 06:53, 17 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Felt great after taking a small breather during the weekend, and with the amount of data/information on hand I've been building up a mental picture of who the culprit might be after ruling out most of the impossiblities. Bugs, do you still remember a certain Indonesian editor who was de-facto BANNED after he repeatedly harassed me and call me names on my talk, from back in 2008? Think I might have to bring in the people who are more familiar with his behaviour to help assess this before I bring it up to ANI/SPI. -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 15:18, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

AN/I
Interesting experiment this weekend...Thank you for your participation. Singapore Sister didn't get that much attention, but the results in general were much better than expected. 2A02:AF8:6:1400:0:0:1:90 (talk) 00:56, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
 * ...well, that comes as no surprise... - The Bushranger One ping only 01:17, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

World Series 1998
Sorting through some papers, I came across a set of 4 (attached) tickets for the 1998 World Series between the Blue Jays and "National League Champions". I wonder whose fantasy this was? The Jays only came third in the ALE that year. Looks like I paid $180.00 for the tickets, so I was a dreamer, too. I wonder why I didn't turn them back in? Bielle (talk) 17:59, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Maybe you thought they'd be worth more than face value someday, as a collectible? However, the Jays finished 20-plus games back in 1998, so I don't know why they would have authorized them to print World Series tickets. Usually that's permitted in the last week or two before the season ends, only for teams that have a reasonable mathematical chance of getting there. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:05, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * That's what puzzles me - the fact of the printing more than why I failed to turn this block in. (There were two blocks, and obviously I turned in the first one.) Now, an unused block for the 1993 World Series, including the Joe Carter game, would be something else. However, I used my ticket for that game. Bielle (talk) 23:21, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Very strange. Is there a copyright date in small print someplace, or any other info that might clarify what this is about? What's the section number? (Don't need to give the row or seat number, that's too close to "outing".) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:24, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * There is a copyright notice on the back of each ticket: copyright 1998 Office of the Commissioner of Baseball. All Rights Reserved. The tickets are marked with Gate 11, Aisle 130B, Row XX, Seat X. (I haven't owned the tickets since that year, so I am not really worried about outing.) Bielle (talk) 17:18, 20 June 2012 (UTC)


 * This is very interesting. One of the benefits of being a TPS is coming across conversations like this that where I learn something new. Here is some WP:OR that might be worth thinking about. If memory serves somewhere in the mid 90's was when pro teams started instituting things like "personal seat licenses" to gouge er bring in more revenue from their fans. For teams that routinely sold out they started making people send money in to reserve their place on the waiting list. I know from one friends experience with Colorado Rockies tickets that, should you want a refund, they would do everything possible to keep your money. They spent the better part of a 25 minute phone call trying to convince them to apply the money they had sent in to next years tickets. It would be interesting to learn which month of the season they had you buy those tickets but I am sure that it is too long ago to find that out. It must have been great to be a part of that 93 championship. Cheers to you both. MarnetteD | Talk 17:52, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
 * If they are still numbered the same way as they were then, that would be a lower-deck box seat down toward the left field corner, likely a season ticket location. I would suspect, or rather guess, that they were what I might call "placeholder" tickets, issued far in advance to season ticket holders. Obviously, the Jays were nowhere close to being in the post-season that year. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:21, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Something has changed because we were in what is now labelled Section 122, (immediately to the left, looking down at the field, of the aisle running straight up from home plate - field level, row 18, seats 5 and 6.). These were our seasons' tickets for about 10 years. MarnetteD might have something. I dimly recall having to pay for these very early and then being "encouraged" to leave the ticket money in my account account to pre-pay part of the following year, which turned out to be the year in which I gave up the tickets. And yes, 1993 was a great year for the Jays' fans. Bielle (talk) 22:43, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Looking at the Sporting News baseball guides for 1998 and 1993, I see that Aisle 130B was in that same location those years as now, and Aisle 122 was also then what it is now, just to the left of being straight behind home plate. As an amusing aside or a bit of odd kharma, given the news this week, the cover of the 1998 guide features Roger Clemens - in a Blue Jays uniform! ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:38, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I really had to dig deep into old files to find this info: my season's tickets were Section 122, Row 32, seats 103 and 104. So, what am I doing with an unused block for an entirely different set of seats? Thanks for your research, Bugs; it spurred me on to check, but now I know less than I did at the beginning. Bielle (talk) 01:16, 21 June 2012 (UTC) P>S> Clemens was a good Blue Jay.
 * I advise you to hang onto them just in case they are a collectable. Regarding Clemens, I didn't start to dislike him until he became a Yankee. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:35, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I could say that about almost any Yankee player. Bielle (talk) 03:38, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * There are certain Yankees I've liked, but it's a pretty short list. (For example, how could anybody not like Yogi Berra?) I should also mention that you might want to search for this kind of thing on Google, and see if anyone else has them, such as on eBay, and then you could get a sense of what they're worth - and maybe even why they were printed in the first place. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:40, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * As one editor pointed out on the ref desk, the Jays were in the wild card race, even though they were a mile behind the Yanks. That, and the fact that the best seats are usually reserved for VIP's, likely accounts for the existence of those tickets. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:43, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Query
Baseball Bugs, as you are someone who has shown that you can be objective, would you mind commenting at Talk:Anal_sex? Three editors from Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not, and three outside of that policy page thus far, have commented, but more outside comments are needed. Flyer22 (talk) 00:54, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sure the risks are well-known and well-sourced, so there's no reason not to include that info. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:05, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Bugs definitely has a conflict of interest in the subject, but since he was solicited for his opinion, and he is recognized for his in-depth knowledge, I will stand behind him. 12.228.254.130 (talk) 01:34, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Bugs, yes, but an editor at the article is arguing that it's a how-to violation and therefore unencyclopedic. I'm trying to get more outside views so that WP:Consensus can be reached. The relevant WikiProjects haven't yet responded on the matter, only three editors from "What Wikipedia is not" have responded, as stated before, and I'm not sure how big of a turnout the RfC will generate. Sometimes there is a good turnout; other times not. This RfC is going slow, and that's usually never a good indication.


 * IP, what WP:Conflict of interest does Bugs have? Flyer22 (talk) 01:38, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * What about "how not to"? Is that also against the rules? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:52, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't feed the troll. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:41, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The IP can't help it. He's a Hoosier. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:50, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, today I'm in Cleveland, or just south of it. Not sure why the node geo-locates the way it did. 12.228.254.130 (talk) 01:55, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't brag about it, either way. :( ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:56, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * LOL, Bugs and Bushranger. It occurred to me that the IP must be a troll when I was typing a response. Sorry about that, Bugs. And thanks for letting me know what you think, whether weighing in on the article talk page or not. It's appreciated. Flyer22 (talk) 01:58, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * One thing to keep in mind is that POV-warriors can't always be defeated directly or swiftly. With conventional weapons, it can take years and costs thousands of lives. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:00, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * But what if you use the Point of View Gun? - The Bushranger One ping only 02:38, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * That could work, not being a conventional weapon. Something to ponder: What if two opposite-thinkers aimed at each other and fired at the same moment. What would happen? Would they be rendered enlightened, open-minded? Or would they become pathological flip-floppers, and run for public office? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:43, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Or what if the point of views collided mid air before reaching the targets? Slight Smile  03:06, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * 2 minutes for high-schticking. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:29, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Two minute penalty! This an outrage! I demand to speak to your supervisor. Slight  Smile  01:27, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

I am back! How are you doing?
This is Zsf... I would like to request a SPI because I have dozens of sockpuppets waiting to disrupt Wikipedia. Just a heads up.

good day. --   20:50, 24 June 2012‎ (UTC)

Leon Alp
Please let me know which page you would like to resolve this on? It seems that you are taking the discussion all over the place. Thank you. 2605:AC00:F000:102:206:4FFF:FE61:92B5 (talk) 21:25, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The admins will take care of it, one way or another. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:27, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Pop quiz

 * Which is more toxic? The person spewing the garbage or the garbage itself? -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 00:40, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * A tough call, that one is. But they can both be erased, so maybe they're 50-50. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:51, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Critical question now being...why they like to feed us their sins? -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 09:19, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * They believe in sharing. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:20, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Please don't vandalize my talk page
Hi, I know Dave1185 is your good friend, but please do not remove comments from my talk page as you did with |this edit. Thank you for your coöperation. Leontopodium alpinum (talk) 13:04, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * No, that comment was nothing but trolling, and in case you hadn't noticed, that IP has been put on ice for the next 3 years. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:15, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I didn't see the new ANI discussion before I make this comment. I still would prefer not to have comments removed, but your good intent is much clearer now. Sorry for jumping the gun with describing your edit as vandalism. Leontopodium alpinum (talk) 23:25, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * No big deal. In any case, they denied my request for page protection - and even if they had granted it, you could easily have had it rescinded. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:35, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh the humanities (question)
What's really ironic is the OP going out of his/her way to be rude while complaining about my perceived discourtesy. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:55, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It never ceases to amaze me, how some folks will fire verbal shots claiming "freedom of speech", and then when their target fires back, they call it "incivility". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:46, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

L a
You know, I didn't really get bothered when the 174 forst moved in on my gig, but the foul language...that's just tacky. There's no need for it. Trolling is best when you hide in plain site. The longer it takes for the subject to realize he's been had, the better. 174 is a disgrace to the troll community and the sooner he is effectively blocked, the better. 218.247.129.7 (talk) 02:47, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I am the lucky one!
Hi! Maldonado91 deleted some criticism of Russia from the Syrian Uprising article. I have restored it, but is he permitted to delete such criticism? Am I doing something wrong? It was sourced OK, just something from Amnesty International. Fanzine999 (talk) 22:45, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The concept is "bold-revert-discuss". So he made a presumbaly "bold" change, you reverted it, and now it gets discussed. If he does it again and won't discuss, report him for edit-warring. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:33, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll gladly knock some noggins if necessary. StringdaBrokeda (talk) 23:43, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Hey, Maldonado91 went further this time and deleted everything to do with Russia. How do I report him? I don't know how to do it. =( Fanzine999 (talk) 08:49, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Go to WP:ANI and ask for help. And also notify the other user. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 12:55, 30 June 2012 (UTC)