User talk:Bastasic

Speedy deletion nomination of Jadovno 1941. Association


A tag has been placed on Jadovno 1941. Association requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. &mdash; RHaworth 11:41, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

===Status and Advice=== As reviewing administrator, I had to delete the article: both because it didn't really show why the orgnaization is of any importance to an  encyclopedia and because it was written in such a way as to promote the activities and the interests of the group.

Possibly the group is important; I would be glad if it were, for I think the associations of this particular sort do have a valuable role in perpetuating the memory of the Holocaust and as a witness to future generations. But A Wikipedia article needs to show notability with references providing substantial coverage from 3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases. It also needs to be written like an encyclopedia article, not a press release--don't praise the organization, say what it does.. Don't talk about the overall importance of the subject--talk about what it has accomplished. And remember not to copy from a web site -- first it's a copyright violation, but, even if you give us permission according to WP:DCM, the tone will not be encyclopedic and the material will not be suitable.

Include only material that would be of interest to a general reader coming across the mention of the organization and wanting the sort of information that would be found in an encyclopedia. Do not include material that would be of interest only to those associated with the organization,  Keep in mind that the goal of an encyclopedia  is to say things in a concise manner, which is not the style of  press releases or  web sites, which are usually more expansive.

As a general rule, a suitable page will be best written by someone without Conflict of Interest; it's not impossible to do it properly with a conflict of interest or as a paid press agent, but it's relatively more difficult: you are automatically thinking in terms of the organization wishes to communicate to the public, but an uninvolved person will think in terms of what the public might wish to know. If you think you can do it right according to our guidelines, do so, but expect the article to be carefully checked for objectivity.

I do not want to discourage you, but if you cannot find the material, I urge you as strongly as I possibly can help us by improving our other articles on topics in your area. Most of the articles relating to specific concentration camps or Nazi actions need considerable expansion. Sections on the nazi period can also be added to articles on the every one of the towns and even villages in Europe where their persecution took place, or from which people were deported. (It is our policy to have articles on every populated place, no matter how small. Sources in any language are food, and if you have access to sources most of us do not have access to, it would be very valuable to add information from them.

If I can help you further, let me know on my user talk page. In particular, if you add sourced material to articles and find that it has been removed, let me know. Just make certain that the information you added had published sources.  DGG ( talk ) 20:07, 30 August 2011 (UTC)