User talk:Baz.ochen

Your submission at Articles for creation: Bread Ahead Bakery & School (December 24)
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Rusalkii (talk) 02:54, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

December 2021
Hello, Baz.ochen. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Draft:Bread Ahead Bakery & School, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Rusalkii (talk) 02:55, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Bread Ahead Bakery & School (December 27)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by S0091 was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


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S0091 (talk) 23:10, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Welcome!
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Bread Ahead Bakery & School (December 28)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Slywriter was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Bread Ahead Bakery & School and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Bread Ahead Bakery & School, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "Db-g7" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
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Slywriter (talk) 16:02, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Bread Ahead Bakery (January 21)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Slywriter was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Bread Ahead Bakery and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Bread Ahead Bakery, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "Db-g7" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
 * If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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Slywriter (talk) 15:50, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Bread Ahead Bakery (February 5)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Bonadea were:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Bread Ahead Bakery and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Bread Ahead Bakery, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "Db-g7" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
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bonadea contributions talk 13:21, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Bread Ahead Bakery (February 6)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Bilorv was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Bread Ahead Bakery and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Bread Ahead Bakery, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "Db-g7" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
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 * If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Bread_Ahead_Bakery Articles for creation help desk], on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bilorv&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Bread_Ahead_Bakery reviewer's talk page] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

— Bilorv ( talk ) 12:20, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Some comments on your draft
Hi Baz.Ochen, I saw the edit summary you left here, saying "Not sure what else to change now...I've copied word for word copy from articles and not rephrased anything". I'm afraid that is the exact opposite of what we should do, and it looks as if you misunderstood my comment here. Copying text straight from other sources is almost always a copyright violation, which is strictly prohibited. The only exception is if the source has released the text under a compatible licence, but that rarely happens. We are also not permitted to add text that's taken from the source with only minimal rephrasing – that is still a copyright violation (as well as being plagiarism). Wikipedia's copyright policy is pretty complex, but please read this summary which covers the most important aspects.

Please take a moment to read the comments on the draft again. I saw that you have removed all the sources that were in the draft – if you want to go on improving it, I suggest that you first find at least three sources that arereliable, independent of the bakery, secondary (not based mostly on what the company say about themselves), and talk about the bakery at some depth. That's what is needed to show that Bread Ahead is notable according to Wikipedia's idiosyncratic definition of notability.

Once you have found sources that show notability, and revised the draft based on the info (but not the exact sentences) in those sources, you can also include information that appears in other reliable sources which are not secondary, such as the Evening Standard interview that you removed. The important thing is that the article isn't based mainly on primary sources. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 10:14, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Baz.ochen. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Draft:Bread Ahead Bakery, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
 * propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the request edit template);
 * disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Conflict of interest);
 * avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Spam);
 * do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Dan arndt (talk) 12:35, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Bread Ahead Bakery (February 17)
 Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Bread_Ahead_Bakery Articles for creation help desk] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by 331dot was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia.

331dot (talk) 12:46, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Bread Ahead Bakery


Hello, Baz.ochen. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Bread Ahead Bakery".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ✗ plicit  13:19, 17 August 2022 (UTC)