User talk:Bcatoto/Neverver

Sarah Peer Review:

Lead: I thought your lead was informative and concise. Linking the countries helped greatly in contextualizing and orienting the reader. The additional information helped to give some background on the history of the language.

Phonology: Your consonant, vowel, syllable structure, and stress sections were all complete and informative. Providing examples for the diphthongs table helped to make sense of them. I also liked the fact that you commented on some of the unique features of the consonants of Neverver. Maybe some examples of these notable features could help round out this section? Some of the more jargony words used to describe syllable structure maybe could be explained upon their first usage. You could also maybe add an example or two to your section on stress, to provide clarity.

Morphology: I liked the "mini lead" that you included before you began writing the sub-headings of your morphology section. However, again some of the more jargony words were a little confusing to me, but maybe providing some examples would be a workaround. Your reduplication, compounding and suppletion sections are complete and well-filled.

Syntax: I understand that there is not much to include in the word order section, but perhaps some more examples could flesh it out some more? Or are there any instances where this basic word order is not followed? Head-complement section seems complete. Overall: This is a great first draft of! I think you explain things well, if a little briefly, and I know that more examples etc will come with the second and final drafts.

Sdeneher (talk) 18:17, 13 April 2019 (UTC)sdeneher

Natalie's peer review
Hi Bianca!

I think you did an amazing job with your page! I was really impressed with your organization, as well as your incorporation of various Wikipedia features, such as linking to other pages and the information box at the top. (Your page gave me a lot of ideas on how I could improve my own page!) You also did a great job summarizing the information in a way that was easy for me to understand. My comments for each section are below. Good luck with your editing!

Best, Natalie

P.S. This is just my native English speaker bias coming in here, but I think Neverver is such a neat name. (It reminds me of "never ever" in English.) Does the word mean anything in the language?

Lead
The information box is so cool! It's also interesting that the speakers are now turning to writing in an effort to preserve their threatened language.

One suggestion is maybe adding a little about where Vanuatu is located. (I know you already link to the page, but maybe you could add a few words like "located in the South Pacific Ocean" or something to help orient readers.) Maybe you could also add a bit of the history of the language/region. Why is it threatened? (E.g. colonialism, some other language gaining prominence, war, education systems, etc.) And is this a recent development, or has the language been in decline for a while?

Phonology
I like how you gave examples for the diphthongs in your discussion of vowels and for the different syllable structures. Your charts are also very easy to read.

Maybe you could explain which of the consonants are geminate (as in, how they are notated in the IPA chart), as well as a bit of what term this means. (I had never heard of this word before!) I was also a bit confused by the section on stress. First, you mention that stress generally falls on the penultimate syllable of multisyllabic words, but then state that stress falls on the first syllable of the verb stem. Are there two locations for stress? And if so, is there a primary/secondary distinction? It might also be helpful to have an example or two illustrating the stress placement.

Morphology
I liked how you clearly explained your examples from the language, which themselves were relevant and easily comprehendible. I also really like how clear and informative you were in this section in particular.

One suggestion is to summarize what other sorts of prefixes there are and how they vary for different word classes. You could also possibly expand your discussion of suppletion. Is it very rare? Are there certain areas of the language in which there is more likely to be suppletion?

Syntax
This section looked really good! I think it already contains pretty much everything it needs to, so I guess my only suggestion for things to add would be anything you find particularly unique/unusual about the language's syntax. Good job :)

347natalie (talk) 19:20, 13 April 2019 (UTC)