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Speedy deletion nomination of Joan soriano


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April 2015
unblock|I have been contributing to wikipedia, albeit not on a massive scale, with this account since 2005. It is the only account I have used. Occasionally I forget to login, and make anonymous contributions - but I have never opened another account. The account name, Bdemenil, is the first initial of my first name: Benjamin, and my last name de Menil. I have never made the slightest attempt to hide my identity, hence this account is certainly not a sock puppet. From Wikipedia "A sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception" I am happy to provide proof that I am in fact Benjamin de Menil. How many other wiki users use their real name?!


 * The checkuser at the SSI based on the block on the conclusion that you were socking as User:Vwikiv and User:Khmer15. Do you have any comment on that finding? Thank you. Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:19, 26 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Vwikiv is my sister Victoria. I had no involvement in the Lois and Georges de Menil (my parents) pages until she asked me to take a look a few days ago. I made some short comments in the discussion disagreeing with Biruitorul's evaluation of sources, and also with his tendency to attack people's credibility rather than address their points. I also made a very minor edit to the page to add a reference and re-word a sentence to more accurately reflect the content of the references. I realize that my relation to the subjects calls my objectivity into question, but my participation was extremely limited, I did not hide my relationship (my username makes it obvious), and I believe my points were valid ones. In any case I am accused of Sockpuppetry - not of participating as an interested party. I also made a minor edit to an entry my sister made on Groupmuse. My sister's account is new. Probably the combination of those things were enough for checkuser. I don't know who Khmer15 is. Judging by the name, I'd guess it's a Cambodian who is familiar with my mother's work with the Center for Khmer Studies. Why does checkuser see a link between us other than that we both participated in the Lois de Menil articles for deletion talk page?
 * Thanks for your response. It is late here and I will follow up tomorrow. Newyorkbrad (talk) 03:19, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I've asked the blocking admin/checkuser to review this and comment. Newyorkbrad (talk) 15:06, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you


 * On April 25 I requested review of the block on my account. On April 27 Newyorkbrad also requested the blocking admin to review the block. To date there has been only silence from the blocking admin. I again request a review of this block, and an explanation for why it has not been remedied.

A summary of the facts:
 * 1) 1 The user, Thunderlagoon, who launched the sockpuppet investigation against me has himself/herself been identified as a sockpuppet.
 * 2) 2 On the Sockpuppet investigation log of my account, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bdemenil/Archive, the checkuser states that "#Bdemenil ..., who appears (see deleted contribs) to be Benjamin dM, primarily interested in Dominican music and a deleted article about himself. Bdemenil appears to be interested only secondarily in the articles on the rest of the de Menil family."
 * 3) 3 I have provided an explanation of my relationship to Vwikiv (my sister) and why we both shared an interest in the discussion of the deletion of Lois de Menil and Georges de Menil wikipedia entries.
 * 4) 4 My username is my real name, and so I did not hide my relationship to the subjects of the articles. When Biruitorul brought up my relationship to Lois de Menil, my response was "I do not list myself as a source. Nor is it necessary for my opinion to have weight. But a factually based argument should be addressed."
 * 5) 5 My participation in those discussions was brief, the points I made different from those made by other users, and in the case of Georges de Menil, the information I provided contributed to the admin's conclusion that the page should be preserved. Please refer to my contributions to Lois de Menil deletion discussion: Lois de Menil Articles for deletion discussion, and judge for yourself if my contribution was inappropriate,
 * 6) 6 The sole basis of the accusation against me is that I participated in two related discussions in articles for deletion, and that a bunch of new users also participated in those discussions. Blocking a 10 year old user account should not be taken lightly. My account has been erroneously blocked without thorough investigation of the facts, and now apparently admin does not have time to review his/her mistake.

Almost everyone who disagreed with the deletion of Lois de Menil wiki entry was accused of being a sockpuppet by Thunderlagoon, who it turns is a sock of Sanjoy, a user with a history of sockpuppetry and abusive behavior. Furthermore, Thunderlagoon / Sanjoy is probably associated with one of the other accounts that argued for deletion of Lois de Menil. It seems unlikely the user would file sockpuppetry investigations to silence the opposition without having actually taken part in the discussion. I hope that admin will investigate.

In any case, it is time for my name to be cleared. Thank you

Hello, on April 25 I requested review of the block on my account. On April 27 Newyorkbrad also requested the blocking admin to review the block. To date there has been only silence from the blocking admin. I again request a review of this block, and an explanation for why it has not been remedied. A summary of the facts:
 * 1) 1 The user, Thunderlagoon, who launched the sockpuppet investigation against me has himself/herself been identified as a sockpuppet.
 * 2) 2 On the Sockpuppet investigation log of my account, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bdemenil/Archive, the checkuser states that "#Bdemenil ..., who appears (see deleted contribs) to be Benjamin dM, primarily interested in Dominican music and a deleted article about himself. Bdemenil appears to be interested only secondarily in the articles on the rest of the de Menil family."
 * 3) 3 I have provided an explanation of my relationship to Vwikiv (my sister) and why we both shared an interest in the discussion of the deletion of Lois de Menil and Georges de Menil wikipedia entries.
 * 4) 4 My username is my real name, and so I did not hide my relationship to the subjects of the articles. When Biruitorul brought up my relationship to Lois de Menil, my response was "I do not list myself as a source. Nor is it necessary for my opinion to have weight. But a factually based argument should be addressed."
 * 5) 5 My participation in those discussions was brief, the points I made different from those made by other users, and in the case of Georges de Menil, the information I provided contributed to the admin's conclusion that the page should be preserved. Please refer to my contributions to Lois de Menil deletion discussion: Lois de Menil Articles for deletion discussion, and judge for yourself if my contribution was inappropriate,
 * 6) 6 The sole basis of the accusation against me is that I participated in two related discussions in articles for deletion, and that a bunch of new users also participated in those discussions. Blocking a 10 year old user account should not be taken lightly. My account has been erroneously blocked without thorough investigation of the facts, and now apparently admin does not have time to review his/her mistake.

Almost everyone who disagreed with the deletion of Lois de Menil wiki entry was accused of being a sockpuppet by Thunderlagoon, who it turns is a sock of Sanjoy, a user with a history of sockpuppetry and abusive behavior. Furthermore, Thunderlagoon / Sanjoy is probably associated with one of the other accounts that argued for deletion of Lois de Menil. It seems unlikely the user would file sockpuppetry investigations to silence the opposition without having actually taken part in the discussion. I hope that admin will investigate.

In any case, it is time for my name to be cleared.

Thank you

Edit after communication with wiki help admin on chat: Apparently there is some kind of IP evidence linking my account to that of user Vwikiv. She is my sister. Although we live in different cities, we are family, and we sometimes stay together in the same location. I'd rather not go into details publicly regarding times and locations where we've intersected. I'd appreciate being given the opportunity to field any specific questions regarding IP overlap in a more private venue.

@Newyorkbrad, are you still investigating this? Max Semenik (talk) 07:49, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I've been dealing with a real-world issue and apologize for being called away, but yes, I will be addressing this. Thanks for your patience. Newyorkbrad (talk) 14:01, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Unblocked
My apologies for my delay in responding to this unblock request. As indicated above, I initially had to discuss this issue with the checkuser who made the block as well as with another checkuser who offered to review it.

The checkusers remain concerned that it is impossible to technically distinguish this account from one or more of the others that were editing the same article at the same time. Despite this fact, after consultation in which the blocking administrator has consented to a cautious unblock, I will credit your explanation and unblock this account. However, please use your best efforts to ensure that this problem does not recur, such as by not having more than one person in your house editing the same article from the same computer around the same time.

If you have any questions about this, please let me know. Otherwise, happy editing, and sorry again about the delay. Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:45, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

@Newyorkbrad Thank you for unblocking

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Bongos
There are no sources in this earth (believe me I have searched) connecting the bongó to the tbilat, the tantan, the tabla, or any similar-looking twin drum. So please do not reinsert this text in the article, since it constitutes WP:SYNTHESIS. The sources given do not talk about the origins of the bongo at all. Neodop (talk) 17:01, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

The only sources on earth connecting the instrument to West Africa refer to the word bongo and not to the actual structure or mode of playing. That source: Ned Sublet clearly states that no drum resembling a bongo has been found to have existed in West Africa. Bdemenil (talk) 14:27, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Sublette is referring to the fact that the bongo was created by the Bantu peoples living in eastern Cuba sometime in the 19th century, meaning it was not "imported". Same story with the conga. Evidently, there are no sources indicating any interaction with Tuareg or Arab peoples whatsoever, and the sources you have given do not support your thesis, which consitutes poor WP:SYNTHESIS on your part. Neodop (talk) 20:08, 5 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello, I am responding here to your recent reversal of my edit to to the bongos Wikipage relating to the origin of the bongos. The reference I used on this most recent edit is from a different page of the same book I had used to support and earlier edit. Page 450 of Percussion Instruments and Their History does specifically state the Naker [Naqareh] as a possible origin of the bongo. Here is a quote: "Antique origins are also evident in the bongos and timbales: the first a pair of small single - headed drums (of flesh or plastic) reminiscent of the naker, the second - a pair of larger open-ended drums evocative of many..." . Is this sufficient to support the edit? If not, how can I change the edit to make it valid? Bdemenil (talk) 16:12, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

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