User talk:Beachpens

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Again, welcome! Jytdog (talk) 02:37, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

May 2016
Hello, I'm Oshwah. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Marcus Schrenker, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   20:20, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Legal threats
Please be aware that making legal threats on Wikipedia is strictly forbidden - please read WP:NLT. Your post at the BLP noticeboard comes very, very close to being a legal threat and others may interpret as one. I am not going to take any action over that posting and I ignored the legal threat aspects, but please do not post anything even remotely similar to that in Wikipedia again. As said, others may elect to take action, so if I were you I would strike the launguage that approaches a legal threat. (You strike text in Wikipedia by putting in front of the text you are striking, and after it.   It ends up looking like this:  struck text .   Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 02:47, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Conflict of interest in Wikipedia
Hi Beachpens. I work on conflict of interest issues here in Wikipedia along with my regular editing. It is clear from your edits to date that you have a relationship with Marcus Schrenker and you have come here to work on the article about him. I'm giving you notice of our Conflict of Interest guideline and Terms of Use, and will have some comments and requests for you below.

Hello, Beachpens. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places, or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic, and it is important when editing Wikipedia articles that such connections be completely transparent. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, we ask that you please:


 * avoid editing or creating articles related to you and your family, friends, school, company, club, or organization, as well as any competing companies' projects or products;
 * instead, you are encouraged to propose changes on the Talk pages of affected article(s) (see the request edit template);
 * when discussing affected articles, disclose your COI (see WP:DISCLOSE);
 * avoid linking to the Wikipedia article or to the website of your organization in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
 * exercise great caution so that you do not violate Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Please take a few moments to read and review Wikipedia's policies regarding conflicts of interest, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing and autobiographies. Thank you.

Comments and requests
Wikipedia is a widely-used reference work and managing conflict of interest is essential for ensuring the integrity of Wikipedia and retaining the public's trust in it. As in academia, COI is managed here in two steps - disclosure and a form of peer review. Please note that there is no bar to being part of the Wikipedia community if you want to be involved in articles where you have a conflict of interest; there are just some things we ask you to do (and if you are paid, some things you need to do).

Disclosure is the most important, and first, step. You have already declared that you are writing a book about him here and you made it clear in your BLP posting that you are here representing him in some fashion. You have a conflict of interest in Wikipedia. The only open question is whether you are being paid - if you are, you are obligated to disclose that under the Terms of Use, as mentioned above.

Would you please diclose if you are being paid?

After you respond (and you can just reply below), I will tell you about the rest of the COI management process in Wikipedia, and when we get through that, I can walk you through how this place works. I look forward to hearing from you. Jytdog (talk) 02:49, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Please respond here. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 03:24, 30 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Jtydog, I am not being paid for anything. I am merely doing research on Marcus Schrenker for my dissertation. The focus of my dissertation is why people engage in criminal behavior. One such person that I'm researching is Marcus Schrenker. When I looked at Wikipedia's data, versus what I collected, I see two totally different presentations. And, when I tried clicking on some of Wikipedia's references, they were dead ends. My concern is that the level of integrity that Wikipedia adheres to is not being met. I don't have a lot of time to spend on this page but I thought I'd let you guys know that who ever wrote this article clearly had a grind with the guy. I have to wonder if the author had a conflict of interest. There are so many inaccurate statements, misplaced facts, and invalid references that it has me really wondering. I am honestly not comfortable with editing the page. I use Wikipedia mainly for reference and stay away from the writing. I hope my input helps.
 * Thanks for replying here! So great that you found your talk page.  I am sorry about this but you keep changing your story.   You wrote here: " I am currently working on Mr. Schrenker's book and this page is far from accurate. For example, he never owned the homes nor the airplanes the author mentions. The media had this wrong."   So that sounds like you are writing some kind of authorized biography or co-writing an autobiography.  And  at BLPN you almost sounded like you were trying to act like his lawyer.
 * Anyway you say you are not being paid, fine. I will just take that.  You still are obviously working with him, and came here to represent him.   Will you please acknowledge that you have a conflict of interest with regard to him?  Once you do I will walk you through the peer review process we use with conflicted editors, and then I will give you a rundown on how this place works, so that you can be effective.  Best regards Jytdog (talk) 04:39, 30 May 2016 (UTC)