User talk:BeanieFan11/Archive 12

Offer to help with newspapers.com
I saw your post about the problems with newspapers.com. I have a newspapers.com account through my Ancestry membership, and am willing to do searches and create clippings for you to use, one subject per day until the difficulties with the WP Library subscription are resolved. Just leave a list on my talk page. — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 03:20, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. BeanieFan11 (talk) 13:07, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

AFDs
Hello, BeanieFan11,

Please be sure not to relist discussions too early. Just relist, at most, a few hours before their "deadline" expires, not a full day or days early. Editors can show up unepectedly to comment in AFDs and it could be unnecessary to relist a discussion that might otherwise be closed. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 06:09, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I didn't realize that it had to be a full seven days, rather than just seven days past the starting point (e.g. a Sep. 23 nom being relisted on Sep. 30). BeanieFan11 (talk) 13:07, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

IFL Awards
Since the IFL Awards are always announced in the same post can I do like what the Big 12 Conference football individual awards do and make the External Links instead of making all the Sources and then copying them like I have in Draft:Indoor Football League individual awards right now? MarqueesCalaway (talk) 00:24, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The Big 12 page has a maintenance tag as doing it that way is discouraged. As you've already done a significant portion of the draft by re-using them and citing them inline, I would just continue doing it that way as that's what's preferred. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:27, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * So would it be beneficial if one of use changed the Big 12 page? MarqueesCalaway (talk) 00:29, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * It would - you could do it if you want, there's no requirement though. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:53, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I will work on it soon. Rest well my friend and shall we meet again MarqueesCalaway (talk) 02:45, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Herb Dell
Hello! Your submission of Herb Dell at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 02:52, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Newspapers.com
Hey Beanie,

Hope you're well. Quick question: Is Newspapers.com down for you? It hasn't been working for me the past couple of days. Everything is saying I need a special subscription. JTtheOG (talk) 04:20, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * It seems to be down for everyone who has access to it through the Wikipedia Library - it does still work for users who actually pay for access (not me) - see here. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:34, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh man..... I understand your frustrations. I've been itching to get back to it ever since the site went down, and I had already started a bunch of pages which I now cannot cite... JTtheOG (talk) 18:08, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Just in case you're not aware, Newspapers.com just came back recently. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:36, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Still hasn't been working for me.. did you do anything specific to re-gain access once it was back? JTtheOG (talk) 17:41, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * That's... odd. It seemed to work for everyone else at the W-Library discussion (linked above) - do you have any ideas of what could be going on with JT's access? BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:47, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Indeed. In my settings, under the Subscription & Payment tab, it says my subscription plan is "Registered Guest". Is this the case for you as well? JTtheOG (talk) 18:02, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * It does say that - a question, though: are you at the regular https://www.newspapers.com/ url or are you at the https://www-newspapers-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/ url? BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:05, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Welp hehe. I've always used the regular site now that you mention it. JTtheOG (talk) 18:15, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @JTtheOG Newspapers.com now needs to be accessed through The Wikipedia Library, either by going to https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/ and clicking the Access Collection button, or going directly to the link BeanieFan shared above :) Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 08:47, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

C. O. Brocato
Just fyi, assuming your WP:FAC is successful for Brocato, you would be eligible for a WP:FOUR award for the article! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk)  @ 17:52, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Not just that, but a Triple Crown too! I always thought I'd look better with a crown :) BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:05, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * BTW, by the end of this month do you think you'll have any time to review any non-Packers football GA noms? ( with Newspapers.com down for me its probably my only hope of winning the WikiCup... ) BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:37, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Newspapers.com just came back for me, so I'll be able to do some more Packers GA noms now; my first for you is Ron Spears. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:28, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Jim Hobbins as well. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:35, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * +Ed Konopasek - a little on the shorter end but still probably qualifies for good considering he was only a replacement linemen who only played three games. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:56, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * +Lavale Thomas. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:56, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I got all 4 Packers one. Probably get to them early next week, if not today. « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 15:48, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks - but be prepared for a bunch more Packers noms; I plan on doing as many as possible by the end of the month in a last effort to take the WikiCup crown! :) BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:02, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * +Lee Weigel. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:58, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * +Perry Hartnett. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:32, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * +Stan Mataele. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:38, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * +Ron Monaco. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:10, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
 * +Mike Wellman. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:47, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
 * +Clarence McGeary. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:52, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
 * +Fred Provo. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:06, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
 * +Walter Tullis. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:56, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
 * +Larry Hefner. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:44, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * +Lou Midler. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:51, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
 * +Ward Walsh. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:26, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
 * +Frank Mestnik. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:57, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
 * +Dennis Havig. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:33, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Are you planning on DYKing all of these GAs as well? « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 15:12, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
 * For some of them, I haven't thought of good hooks (Spears; Konopasek; Weigel; Wellman; and Tullis - can you think of any good ones for these?), but for others I probably will (Hobbins: ... that Jim Hobbins played two years of professional football, spaced apart by eleven years?; maybe Thomas: ... that Lavale Thomas was injured for each of his first three college football seasons, and when finally healthy for his fourth, had to be a backup?; Hartnett, a quirky one that might work: ... that a replacement player was injured replacing and injured replacement player?; Mataele: ... that football player Stan Mataele lied about his experience so he could play for his college's team, and when found out, made the squad anyway and was all-state?; Monaco: ... that Ron Monaco, the "longest of long shots," made an NFL roster and became a starter after having been only a backup in college?; McGeary nominated; and Provo: ... that Fred Provo was told he would have to have his arm removed due to a wound sustained in World War II, but refused, recovered, and went on to play in the National Football League?). BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:33, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, some of those are tough. I was going to recommend combining some of them related to replacement players like I did, but that seemed to cause some controversy. Maybe just propose something straightforward at DYK and see if some of the regulars can help come up with some ALTs. « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 15:53, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Just a heads-up, I am going on a hiking trip this weekend. I'll get the 3 GANs done on Monday though. Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 19:45, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

IFL Awards 2
Do you like the way I did Draft:Indoor Football League individual awards. Would you be willing to nominate it if I finish it. MarqueesCalaway (talk) 21:01, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Either way works but the MVP style looks better in my opinion. I'm not sure what you mean by asking whether I would be "willing to nominate it" - do you mean review it for NPP or AFC? BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:10, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Either is fine i don't mind either way. MarqueesCalaway (talk) 21:12, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Whether its NPP or AFC would depend on whether you submit it as a draft or move it to mainspace yourself; but in any case, I would be willing to approve it when you're done, just let me know. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:18, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks man I thank you for all your help on this huge project I've been working on. Thank you. MarqueesCalaway (talk) 21:24, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Daniel Whelan
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Kent Gaydos
—Kusma (talk) 00:03, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Lightburst (talk) 04:51, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:42, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Michael Vinson
Here you go:

— Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 16:40, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-indianapolis-star-milk-adds-indy-5/132946440/
 * https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-indianapolis-star-walk-on-vinson-rel/132946735/

Shyheim Carter
— Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 17:33, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-dothan-eagle-business-quiet-carter/133001617/ and https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-dothan-eagle-tide-from-p-1b/133001476/
 * https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-montgomery-advertiser-carter-establi/133001728/ and https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-montgomery-advertiser-alabama-conti/133001824/
 * https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-montgomery-advertiser-carters-fluid/133001955/ and https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-montgomery-advertiser-carter-contin/133004943/
 * https://www.newspapers.com/article/daily-news-undrafted-unmasked-what-finan/133002292/ and https://www.newspapers.com/article/daily-news-image-continued-from-p-48/133002401/

Reg reliable sources
Hey BeanieFan11, We coincided once on Anthony Vaz and I saw how you improved it in a really short time. That's really great work. As you have been here for a while, I wanted to ask your advice on how to find reliable sources for an Indian history event that took place on 1659, Battle of Kolhapur. Whatever sources I have cited initially has been removed citing WP:HISTRS / WP:RAJ as a reason. Also, an editor is threatening deletion in the article talk page. Per the ongoing AfD, there was a WP:citogenesis issue as well. I just wanted to know what types of sources can be added to these history related articles. It would be great, if you shed some light on this. Thanks <3 Jeraxmoira (talk) 13:53, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'm not familiar with the area of Indian history (Vaz is probably the only article I've done falling under that) - if scholarly sources are needed, there appear to be some at Google Scholar here - I can't guarantee the usefulness of them, but if any look promising you can discuss them with the user nominating the article for deletion. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:08, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Jeraxmoira (talk) 16:05, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Paul Roach
RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Dylan Cook
theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:02, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Media mention
Thought you might be interested to know that you got a shout out in this article from Defector for your work on the Helping the runner article. I guess it's possible you might have seen this already, but in any case, congrats! Hatman31 (talk) 23:59, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Wow! I wasn't aware of this! Its nice to see when others notice my work, especially when its a media organization noting that I "did a great job" – thanks for the message! BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:20, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Ty Emberson
— Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 01:52, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
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DYK for Fred Vehmeier
Z1720 (talk) 01:57, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

The WikiCup
As a WikiCup judge, I am curious about your submission of Brevin Allen for a DYK in the WikiCup. Although it would have qualified, I can't see that it has ever been a DYK. Have I missed something? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:56, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The DYK bot made an error and never recorded it; it did appear, though, see here. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:37, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, fine. I thought it was something like that. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:58, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ron Spears
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Your GA nomination of Ed Konopasek
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Your GA nomination of Jim Hobbins
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Your GA nomination of Lavale Thomas
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DYK for Anthony Vaz
RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Newspaper.com request
I'm not the type of person to make this request, but I need help with newspaper.com and to clip a page. I'd be very grateful if you could clip "Dennis Law makes All-Ohio Valley" from the Johnson City Press of November 25, 1977, on page 12. I need it for the Dennis Law article. Thank you very much in advance. Kline • talk to me! • contribs 23:09, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Clipped here. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:15, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Also another question, do you clip it with your own account or thru the TWL? Kline • talk to me! • contribs 17:33, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I use TWL. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:46, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Do I just register normally and then I have regular access as if I was paying? Kline • talk to me! • contribs 18:36, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * If I remember right, you have to register like normal (but not subscribe or do the seven-day trial), and then if you qualify for the wikipedia library you should be able to find newspapers.com here which should say "access collection" - it will send you to this url, you might have to login, and then it should work for you. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:49, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah alright, I see now. I have access to the TWL version of it but wasn't sure if I needed to sign up or do something else to clip. Thanks a lot for the help! Kline • talk to me! • contribs 19:00, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

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DYK for Michael Vinson
theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:03, 16 October 2023 (UTC) GalliumBot (talk • contribs) (he/it) 03:29, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

The GA Award

 * It's either you or TonyTheTiger. He mostly does basketball but has some Michigan football GAs. I didn't see any other football editor ahead of you on the list. I didn't click on all 300+ of Tony's to see which ones are football though. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 22:58, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Thinking about it, you may be right! I had no idea I had that many football GAs (I know I had a lot, but wasn't expecting No 1/2!) – Tony might have me beat, but I don't feel like going through his 300 GAs either haha... And I plan on getting a lot more soon; for the WikiCup (an annual competition for most productive users), I'm currently fifth place with the competition ending at the end of this month, and so I've worked up a deal with Gonzo fan2007 where I write lots of Packers articles and he reviews them to get me the needed points! BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:06, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Good luck! WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 23:11, 16 October 2023 (UTC)


 * You definitively have the most now. Tony doesn't have 61 football GAs. I don't think he even had 30 or whatever you were at before. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 13:51, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Louise Fulton
RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ron Spears
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Your GA nomination of Ed Konopasek
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Your GA nomination of Lee Weigel
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Your GA nomination of Ron Monaco
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Your GA nomination of Stan Mataele
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Your GA nomination of Mike Wellman
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Your GA nomination of Lavale Thomas
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Your GA nomination of Perry Hartnett
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Your GA nomination of Lavale Thomas
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Your GA nomination of Dave Viti
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Your GA nomination of Clarence McGeary
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Your GA nomination of Stan Mataele
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Your GA nomination of Dave Viti
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Your GA nomination of Ron Monaco
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DYK for Keith Hartwig
—Kusma (talk) 00:02, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Did you know...
That on August 8, 1961, the Hamilton Tiger-Cats (who Dave Viti played for in 1962) beat the Buffalo Bills (who drafted Viti in 1962) by a score of 38-21 in the last-ever meeting bewteen a CFL and NFL/AFL team? WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 01:20, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
 * No, I didn't :) – in fact, until now I had completely forgotten that the NFL once played against the CFL - that's interesting - thanks for letting me know BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:32, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

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Incomplete DYK nomination
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Newspapers.com citations
I was just doing an AWB run and saw that you'd added a bunch of Newspapers.com citations to articles, with fully filled out citation templates. Good stuff. Anyway, I don't know if you heard of it or not, but I wrote a software ( https://github.com/jp-x-g/PressPass ) that you can run as a userscript in Firefox or Chrome to automatically generate fully-formatted cite templates (with date, newspaper, location, URL, etc) from newspapers.com clipping and search pages. Today, I even fixed it so it works properly with the new format of the clipping pages and fixes the weird proxy URLs! Anyway, check it out if you want. jp×g 02:26, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for the message. I might try it out soon. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:29, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

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DYK for Chet Winters
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

You got it
Sorry Beanie, I'll leave them alone. As God as my witness, I'm in the middle of a sentence with @Bagumba about this very thing and I saw your revert. You'll have many more reverts that I did out there. All I was doing was keeping the pages the way I saw hundreds of others. No date listed twice. I stopped just now, because I thought someone might take offense. And I was right. I did not know that every person who creates an article and has a specific way of doing it was the way here. I was wrong, just trying to uniform things. I apologize and it won't ever happen again. You have my word on it. All the edits you see that I did, have not happened since this message. Honestly, I'm glad you stopped me when you did, lol. Regards, Bringingthewood (talk) 02:24, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Its not that big a deal - I mean, if you can find some policy saying that's how its done or can get consensus for a change I'd be fine with it (just like for the "U.S." in infoboxes) - I just was a little surprised at the undiscussed changes since I had always written articles that way. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:35, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree with you, no big deal. No change needed. Once they opened the door on U.S. I've edited over a thousand players and the overwhelming majority had no date listed there. Like the way we don't put the place of birth in the lead. So I'm figuring that was the way. I was like, date of birth in the lead, early life .. infobox? We're really trying to get it across to people, lol. My fault, you create pages and I don't. No need for consensus with this. You won't believe it, but I was actually removing U.S. last year ... now I see it in my sleep! Also, I'm reverting what I did. Removing caps and a players first name in the article I believe I was told before that I got that right at least. If you check what I just sent to Bagumba, you'll see that I meant no animosity, that's why I stopped and asked him about it. Hope we're still good. Bringingthewood (talk) 02:49, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * That's alright - you thought the edits were the right action and I wasn't really offended by it - you can bring up a discussion on it somewhere if you like, I'm completely fine if I'm wrong here. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:52, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Nope. If this is ever brought up or a date is deleted, it won't be from me. You did and still do a great job with something that I could never do. I think that's why I stopped ... out of guilt. Btw, like I've mentioned to others here, if you see something that I did to a page that rubs you the wrong way, please send me a message. Not a problem. I'll let you go now. Maybe I can find someone to add U.S. to. @@ Thanks for responding and stay well. Bringingthewood (talk) 03:03, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * I am am nominating the article at DYK. In doing my checks for the hook, my concern is that the GA reviewer seems to have missed the Hall of Fame induction date. Our article claims 1984, but he was inducted in 1974. 1974 Ollie Dawson was the first... and In 1974, Dawson became the first African-American inducted into the South Carolina Athletic Hall of Fame and 1974. Letting BeanieFan11 know that I plan to correct the article - maybe using the reliable sources above? Seeing this miss, maybe BeanieFan11 can go over the article with me to correct any problems? I am hoping this was the only issue. Thanks Lightburst (talk) 18:13, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks Lightburst but it looks like the article does say 1974. The South Carolina Athletic Hall of Fame is for the state and the "South Carolina State Athletic Hall of Fame" is for South Carolina State University. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 18:17, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes I may be mucking it up! Perhaps we can get it sorted with Bennie's help. Lightburst (talk) 18:23, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * At the moment I'm busy but later today I should be able to sort things out. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:25, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * No worries, it was my own issue. I am adding you to the nomination, thanks for the article. Apologies to for my confusion Lightburst (talk) 18:30, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

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Landed family blogspot
Dear BeanieFan,

thanks a lot for your contribution to the discussion in Reliable_sources/Noticeboard. This really helped me. I had some sincere doubts about the subject, as you understood. Now I think I can leave the ref to the blog in John Rocke. It's not the only, or the most important source. But, as I said, it looks rather serious to me, and it contains a lot of information.

One of the important functions of Wikipedia is - to my opinion - to provide links to sources that delve deeper into a subject. And this blog surely contains a lot of background. The ref to "thepeerage.com" has been removed already. But as I mentioned in the footnote, this contained (probably) false information, so that's no problem at all.

I still have some other sources on my list, that I want to check. But on this person, apparently little research is done, although he was an important ornithologist, in certain respects, and in the bigger context of the development of ornithology in England in the 19th century.

Perhaps I may ask you to take a short look at the article, and see if you can correct some of the stylistic errors I certainly made. My English language skills are rather poor.

For now, again, thanks for your intervention, and greetings, --Dick Bos (talk) 08:32, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

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Draft:John Stadnik
I was able to find a source at Newspaper.com for Draft:John Stadnik, but I couldn't do anything after that. Have you had any luck? Scorpions1325 (talk) 00:25, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * That's a nice find - I did a search a while back and don't remember finding anything that good - I might take another look soon. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:29, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

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DYK for Earl Witte
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Your GA nomination of Andy Gibler
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Your GA nomination of Quency Williams
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DYK nomination of Alex Laferriere
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Your GA nomination of John Thompson (American football executive)
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Your GA nomination of Louise Fulton
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Your GA nomination of Rodney Parker
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Your GA nomination of Sid Justin
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Welcome to the club

 * Thanks! My first featured article — and it only took me 800 creations to do it! BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:10, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I hope that we are not going to have to wait for another 800 before we see your second nomination. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:22, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Tristin McCollum
Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Fancies Versus Fads
Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

C. O. Brocato
This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 19 December 2023. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at Today's featured article/December 2023, or to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/December 2023. Please keep an eye on that page, as comments regarding the draft blurb may be left there by user:dying, who assists the coordinators by making suggestions on the blurbs, or by others. I also suggest that you watchlist Main Page/Errors from two days before the article appears on the Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work!—Wehwalt (talk) 16:07, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you today for the article, introduced: "From Louisiana, Brocato attended St. John's High School and was the football team captain while playing fullback and placekicker. After graduating from St. John's, he attended Baylor University and became known as one of the best placekickers under pressure in the U.S. ... Brocato was a scout from 1974 until his death at 85 in 2015 – all but four of those years with the Houston Oilers / Tennessee Oilers / Titans. He became regarded as one of the greatest scouts in football history for his extensive research on every player and for his mentoring of many others in the field. He drove across the country and added around 20,000 miles (32,000 km) per year to his car to do his research on NFL prospects – even going into his 70s. ..." - the most eloborate introduction I_ve seen ;) - Enjoy your first TFA day! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 04:57, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:51, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Today, I have a special story to tell, of the works of a musician born 300 years ago. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:34, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Louise Fulton
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Four Award

 * BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:43, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Wow! Nice. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 19:53, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ching Hammill
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Your GA nomination of George H. Hobson
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Your GA nomination of DuWayne Deitz
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Your GA nomination of Mike Kullman
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Your GA nomination of Dennis Havig
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Your GA nomination of Frank Mestnik
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Your GA nomination of Ward Walsh
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Your GA nomination of Dennis Havig
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November Articles for creation backlog drive
 Hello BeanieFan11:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!

The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 2 months outstanding reviews from the current 4+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 November 2023 through 30 November 2023.

You may find Category:AfC pending submissions by age or other categories and sorting helpful.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.

There is a backlog of over pages, so start reviewing drafts. We're looking forward to your help! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:23, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ward Walsh
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Your GA nomination of Frank Mestnik
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