User talk:BeanieFan11/Archive 13

Congratulations
An extraordinary total. The rest of us never had a chance. AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:26, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. To be honest, though, when I joined I never thought I'd have a shot at winning, especially when I only barely qualified for round 4 as the 16th spot (175 points) – but it looks like I did it! BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:54, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd also like to congratulate you on your first-place finish in the Cup. Honestly, that GA total especially was very impressive. – Epicgenius (talk) 14:45, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:20, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello! We've likely never "met" before, but I just wanted to congratulate you for the win, too: you and the other finalists all put one hell of an effort! Oltrepier (talk) 17:14, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

A Few Things
A few things for you: I hope you keep up the work (after taking a well deserved break!). Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 23:01, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Congrats on the Wikicup!
 * Thank you for doing so much good work at WP:PACKERS
 * Don't forget to nominate C. O. Brocato at WP:FOUR
 * I ran into an article I thought might be up your alley as I was doing some maintenance tag work: Johnny Strzykalski. First round draft pick, played for 7 seasons, was pretty darn good, and only two sentences in his bio. I went through and cleaned up/expanded the infobox, but thought of you when I came across it.
 * Thanks, and thank you for your willingness to review all those Packers articles – also note that I did nominate Brocato at WP:FOUR (some sections up) – I may take a look at Stryzkalski at some point soon. Thanks! BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:51, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Oliver C. Dawson
theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:03, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

ProQuest
You might also want to get access to ProQuest to prove that these NFL players are notable. After my two-month long meltdown/mental health crisis, I lost access to the Wikipedia Library, and I can't get it back until February. It contains Newspaper articles that Newspapers.com does not have. Scorpions1325 (talk) 02:26, 4 November 2023 (UTC) I have also literally just lost access to Newspapers.com as my renewal from last year has expired. Scorpions1325 (talk) 23:48, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hope you're feeling better – I do check ProQuest at times but I don't find it nearly as helpful for NFL players as Newspapers.com is – question, though: if you can't get library access until February, how are you using Newspapers.com for the articles you have improved? (also, are you unable to request access? IIRC the library allowed requests if you didn't qualify if you had good reason, unless I'm not remembering things right...) BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:31, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I got access to Newspapers.com using my old account's name. I did not scramble my Newspapers.com password. Also, I am going to be a lot busier as I am now working for a job that expects me to put in more than 40 hours per week (PTF City Carrier). I may be too tired to scour Newspapers.com for sources. Scorpions1325 (talk) 02:34, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Alright – good luck with your job. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:04, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Do you know where I can request access to the Library? Scorpions1325 (talk) 18:46, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Not sure – it was a long while back that I first applied – an idea: is there anything that happens when you visit https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/users/my_library/ and login? BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:49, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * It just gives me a screen that says I am not eligible. Scorpions1325 (talk) 18:56, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... maybe can help? BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:05, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, responded elsewhere :) Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 12:49, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Ugh... maybe leave a message at Wikipedia talk:Newspapers.com and see if any library folks can help you regain access? BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:51, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Washington Wolfpack
theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:03, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

WikiCup 2023 November newsletter
The WikiCup is a marathon rather than a sprint and all those reaching the final round have been involved in the competition for the last ten months, improving Wikipedia vastly during the process. After all this hard work, BeanieFan11 has emerged as the 2023 winner and the WikiCup Champion. The finalists this year were:-


 * BeanieFan11 with 2582 points
 * Thebiguglyalien with 1615 points
 * Epicgenius with 1518 points
 * MyCatIsAChonk with 1012 points
 * BennyOnTheLoose with 974 points
 * AirshipJungleman29 with 673 points
 * Sammi Brie with 520 points
 * Unlimitedlead with 5 points

Congratulations to everyone who participated in this year's WikiCup, whether they made it to the final round or not, and particular congratulations to the newcomers to the competition, some of whom did very well. Wikipedia has benefitted greatly from the quality creations, expansions and improvements made, and the numerous reviews performed. All those who reached the final round will win awards. The following special awards will be made based on high performance in particular areas of content creation and review. Awards will be handed out in the next few days.


 * Unlimitedlead wins the featured article prize, for 7 FAs in total including 3 in round 2.
 * MyCatIsAChonk wins the featured list prize, for 5 FLs in total.
 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Lee Vilenski wins the featured topic prize, for a 6-article featured topic in round 4.
 * MyCatIsAChonk wins the featured picture prize, for 6 FPs in total.
 * BeanieFan11 wins the good article prize, for 75 GAs in total, including 61 in the final round.
 * Epicgenius wins the good topic prize, for a 41-article good topic in the final round.
 * LunaEatsTuna wins the GA reviewer prize, for 70 GA reviews in round 1.
 * MyCatIsAChonk wins the FA reviewer prize, for 66 FA reviews in the final round.
 * Epicgenius wins the DYK prize, for 49 did you know articles in total.
 * 🇺🇦 Muboshgu wins the ITN prize, for 46 in the news articles in total.

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 * Congrats. Clyde  &#91;trout needed&#93; 17:17, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Congrats on winning! W. Tell DCCXLVI ( talk to me!/c ) 18:05, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Well done, mate. JTtheOG (talk) 18:11, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:29, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Congrats! You did it, in spite of the newspapers.com blip! — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 22:24, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Congratulations.. -Nizil (talk) 06:17, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Congratulations! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:39, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you all! BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

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WikiCup awards


Congratulations on putting in a tremendous performance in the final round and winning the Cup! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:47, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:09, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Your sudden rise to first place in the final round was stunning. The fact that you got 61 articles to GA, most in the final weeks, is astonishing- excellent work and congrats! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 12:57, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Steve Wadiak
I left a comment pertinent to your work on Draft:Steve Wadiak. Thank you! ~ Pbritti (talk) 19:48, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Rule on State Abbreviations
I was wondering if there was a place where I could find how abbreviations for the college football coach infobox are supposed to work. A fellow editor linked here as their reasoning as to expanding the abbreviations for Byron Dawson in this and this. I usually just follow what the majority of other coaches use (such as in Sam Pittman, Gus Malzahn, Hugh Freeze, Mark Stoops, Eliah Drinkwitz, and Kirk Ferentz) who are of much higher quality and notability.

I’m interested in hearing your thoughts, thanks! Thetreesarespeakingtome (talk) 14:50, 11 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Hmmm... not sure – I don't have a strong opinion either way (though I like it shorter a little more to make it less cluttered) – I don't like getting myself involved in the nitpicky abbreviations debates – maybe start up a discussion at WT:CFB? Probably will know if there's a page laying out style guides. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:08, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the ping here. Parenetical state code abbreviations for disambiguating high schools and college teams are standard practice for Template:Infobox college coach and they are used in the example provided in the template's documentation. has cited Manual of Style/Abbreviations, which states "Postal codes and abbreviations of place names—e.g., Calif. (California), TX (Texas), Yorks. (Yorkshire)—should not be used to stand for the full names in normal text. They can be used in tables when space is tight but should be marked up with  template on first occurrence. They should not be used in infoboxes." This passage of the MOS is contradictory since inboxes are tables, and given that infoboxes typically occupy a small fraction of an article's width, whereas tables in the body of an article can occupy the full width, so space in infoboxes can be even tighter. I agree that state codes are inapt for locations in infobox field like place of birth/death and building addresses, but the two-column portions of Template:Infobox college coach are a different animal. Jweiss11 (talk) 19:12, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Newspapers.com question
Do you go through the Wikipedia Library everytime you use Newspapers.com? Years ago, I used to be able to just sign into my Newspapers.com account but that doesn't seem to be good enough anymore. For example, I'm signed into Newspapers.com right now but can't access a ref at Wichita Mall. Do I have to renew my account or something? WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 05:42, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah they require you to use it through the library now - you have to sign in at this url and then it should work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:45, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Tre Harris
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DYK nomination of Fred Provo
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WikiProject Green Bay Packers/substubs
I am slowly trying to work through the initial list of 60 articles that were put together as sub-stubs. Mainly you and I knocked out 36 of them so far. Any interest in working on any of the remaining? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk)  @ 19:18, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I'll see - it was pretty exhausting to get through so many articles for the WikiCup and plus I've got some projects I'm working on currently - maybe... BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:17, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

User:BeanieFan11/Bill Collins (American football player)
Hello, BeanieFan11,

I thought I'd let you know that this page is due for CSD G13 speedy deletion tomorrow. It showed up on our G13 soon daily list. It might be in User space, but it has an AFC tag on the page so it shows up as eligible to be deleted. But since this is an old article and you didn't create it, you wouldn't have received a reminder notice so that's what I'm doing right now. If you would like to preserve it, then please make an edit to the page. And you might consider removing the AFC tag, too. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 05:35, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for notifying me - I removed the AFC tag. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:44, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Jim Hobbins
theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:02, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Alex Laferriere
theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:03, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Ralph Smith (American football)
RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Stan Mataele
RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Herb Dell
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DYK for Jeff Allen (defensive back, born 1948)
theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:03, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Ron Monaco
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DYK nomination of Bernard Williams (gridiron football)
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Jon Sawyer moved to draftspace
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Your draft article, Draft:Delaware Field Club


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New football helmet 1932
I did not know if you ever saw this but I thought you might get a kick out it. Bruxton (talk) 16:01, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Hah! I think I once saw a photo of someone (might have been that one) running into a wall to show the strength of a football helmet, but I never saw the video. Thanks, BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:08, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

2020 Wesley Wolverines football team
I was going through NAIA and DIII season articles looking for non-notable season articles. I was set to nominate this one at AfD, but then I saw that you were the article creator, and that gave me pause. A stand-alone article for an unexceptional DIII program is a bit of a stretch, and most of the sources are game summaries prepared by the schools participating in the games and thus lack independence. The article from The News Journal focuses on the demise of Wesley's athletic program in its entirety and doesn't constitute SIGCOV of the 2023 football team. The two WDEL pieces cited late in the article come closest to being SIGCOV of the team, but even those are focused more on COVID difficulties in finding opponents. Could you try to beef this up with some actual SIGOV of the team from independent, reliable sources? Cbl62 (talk) 19:34, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I would be fine if you think it should be redirected to Wesley Wolverines football (I had a bit looser views on notability then; probably wouldn't have created it nowadays); besides what is already in the article, the only piece of coverage I was able to find was this from "BVMSports.com": although its probably sigcov I question whether it is a reliable source. I wonder if ultimately a merger to something like Wesley Wolverines football, 2010–2020, would work? BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:48, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Another possibility would be to create 2020 New Jersey Athletic Conference football season, though that would require a fair amount of work. Cbl62 (talk) 23:33, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Alvin Walker
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 * Hm? BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:45, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * You can ignore. I think it happened because I moved it to Skip Walker. « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 22:48, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Skip Walker
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Proposed deletion of 1925 Delaware State Hornets football team


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Nomination of 1926 Delaware State Hornets football team for deletion
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WP:GANs
Can you confirm that you want all of your existing WP:GANs to be closed as unsuccessful? If so, I can do it. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk)  @ 15:18, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Eh, actually I think I'll just wait a little longer to do them - as WikiCup season is starting again soon! (though I don't intend on trying a repeat title; that was too much work). BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:53, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * No worries, sounds good. « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 16:02, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I would like to suggest that if they aren't being taken care of by the end of the year, that they be closed. By that time, it will be at least two months since each of the reviews was posted, more than long enough to deal with them. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:59, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I mean, I had intended on doing some of them in January, but you can close them if you think that's the right action. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:26, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * While I can appreciate that you've been extremely busy with the work required to win the WikiCup and might be more than a little sick of doing GANs for a while, I don't think it is fair to "bank" all of these nominations for next year. I won't be participating in WikiCup going forward so I have no horse in this race, but if you have no intention of responding to these reviews now when they've been waiting on your responses for two months, and you've been actively editing otherwise, they should all be procedurally failed. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:57, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * You do have a fair point, and you're right that I'm sick of doing good articles for a while – I guess I would be alright if you were to mark all of them as withdrawn. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:29, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'll mark the nominations as unsuccessful. AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:13, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lou Midler
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A WP:DYK holiday award for you?

 * Thank you! BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:11, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello. If you aren't too busy
Hello. I hope you are in good health of mind and body. Do review a page Patricia Lamanna. Cheers. Wallclockticking (talk) 22:07, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I am sure an NPP reviewer will get to it at their earliest convenience. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:55, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I messaged you because its sports related. Wallclockticking (talk) 02:01, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I understand that. However, I prefer not to review subjects on request. As I said, I am sure an NPP reviewer will get to it at their earliest convenience. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:48, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

WikiProject NFL Award

 * Thank you! BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:08, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

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DYK for Herb Dell
Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Sam Kaplan (American football) for deletion
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Charles Wharton (American football)
Any interest in collaborating on this one? Strong Delaware ties (U.Delaware athletic director, Delwaware Senator, and Democratic candidate for governor) and a College Football Hall of Fame inductee. Cbl62 (talk) 14:13, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh... I remember I had said I would expand that... apologies for not getting to it – you seem to have turned it into something pretty decent. I might still have the time to add some details at some point soon if you'd like. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:53, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Your efforts are always welcome. Cbl62 (talk) 20:23, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

New pages patrol January 2024 Backlog drive
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Re-opened AfDs
I withdrew the bundled canoeists AfD and re-opened Articles for deletion/Manaka Kubota and Articles for deletion/Teruko Kiriake, just notifying you and the other !voters in the prior AfD. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:45, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Packers Hall of Famers
A few months ago, you mentioned that there were some missing articles for Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame inductees. Well now William Brault, Jerry Atkinson (American football), E. S. Brusky, Al Treml, Wilner Burke and Frank Jonet are all done and nominated at WP:GAN. Thanks for the inspiration to get them done :) « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 19:37, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Great work! :) BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:51, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Fred Provo
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Charles Lupiya
I've no idea why I redirected this PROD to the Commonwealth Games but you were right to pick it up - I'm guessing a copy/paste error, as I meant to redirect to the 1980 Olympics, which is what I continue to think is the right result unless there is a LOT more sourcing than has appeared so far. I'm leaving you this because you queried in your edit summary whether the extra refs were enough - I'm afraid I suspect not, and would rather see it redirected than deleted. Best, Ingratis (talk) 10:23, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Cedric Oglesby
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Your GA nomination of Tony Pajaczkowski
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DYK for Perry Hartnett
Aoidh (talk) 00:03, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

 * Thank you – I hope the same for you. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:11, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Happy holidays!


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DYK for Clarence McGeary
Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Recommendation
I see that during that WT:NFL discussion, you attempted to disengage a few times. As a recommendation, just stop replying in future discussions. I know the temptation is strong to reply, but often it is best to just stop responding. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk)  @ 15:29, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Wikicup
I see you are at it again. Any WP:PACKERS content, as last year, I'd be happy to review for you. WikiProject Green Bay Packers/substubs has the 24 remaining substubs originally identified by WP:NFL and then lists all the WikiProject's stubs sorted by size of the article, if you need any ideas. Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame is also another place to look for ideas, because almost every one has a nice piece written by Cliff Christl, the Packers' team historian. As an example, John Martinkovic. Good luck! :) « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 03:04, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

I couldn't wait
I'm paying for access to Newspapers.com access until my account becomes 6 months old. I still haven't forgotten you and the IP. Scorpions1325 (talk) 20:08, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * – it's a shame they don't allow granted access to users who clearly should get it with less than six months (like yourself) – but I'm happy to see that you're doing alright and still are interested in the drafts. I'll make sure to update the IP draft tracker soon; have gotten a little behind in keeping up with everything. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:49, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I responded to your message on the IP's talk page. I also was able to find WP:SIGCOV for an article that had been rejected 4 times. Scorpions1325 (talk) 09:10, 22 January 2024 (UTC)