User talk:BeanieFan11/Archive 14

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DYK for Lou Daukas
Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Twink Twining
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Nomination of 1873 New Jersey Athletic Club football team for deletion
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Nomination of 1880 Philadelphia Crescent Athletic Club football team for deletion
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Re: Charles Jonasen
You asked about what the book Mill City Scrum has to say about Charles Jonasen. Well, Jonasen played for the Minneapolis Marines, which is what the book is about. The book covers the Marines from 1905 through their final season as the Red Jackets in 1930, and the book includes Jonasen in its year-by-year rosters plus accounts of games. Jonasen played from 1907 through 1921. NorseLord (talk) 19:45, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Is there any discussion of Jonasen's life or is the only coverage of him in the book listings of him on team rosters and / or brief mentions regarding game performances? BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:01, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, for someone who played regularly for 14 seasons, there is almost nothing about him except roster positions, a couple of big plays, and some biographical info like he was a fireman and a policeman. NorseLord (talk) 01:42, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * How much biographical information is there? Would you be willing to give me an excerpt? BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:43, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Additional info from the book not already on the draft page:
 * Charles Jonasen played first base and right field for the Minneapolis Marines amateur baseball team.
 * He served in the U.S. Armed Forces during World War I.
 * He first worked as a shipping clerk for a flour mill, then as a deputy sheriff for the Hennepin County Sheriff’s Department, and later for the Minneapolis Fire Department (1928-1957). NorseLord (talk) 16:59, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hmm... that is rather slim. Take note that Wikipedia requires it's subjects to have so-called "significant coverage", which basically means that there needs to be sources that cover the topic in-depth (100 words on a topic has been a proposed standard, although it is not a hard rule). I'll leave a note about it on the draft page and will leave it to someone else on whether to accept it or not. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:34, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Blank line before heading
It is a strong style guideline, universally practiced, to put a blank line before a heading. Just so you know... Dicklyon (talk) 23:01, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:20, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of 1892 Western Maryland Green Terror football team for deletion
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Nomination of 1893 Western Maryland Green Terror football team for deletion
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User:BeanieFan11/1873 New Jersey Athletic Club football team
Hi! As requested at the AfD, I've userfied this for you. Not watching the draft, so please ping me if you need anything further. Star  Mississippi  02:32, 11 January 2024 (UTC)


 * oh and same is true for User:User:BeanieFan11/1880 Philadelphia Crescent Athletic Club football team. Star   Mississippi  03:13, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:23, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! I've always remembered you as the user who came one ITN entry away from eliminating me from last year's WikiCup, which I eventually won! BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:43, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Ha, I remember that! I was just about to mention it. I actually had one ITN entry that I scrambled to work on. I still remember it to this date; Lloyd Erskine Sandiford. I desperately worked on it for a bit but it couldn't have happened at a worse time, I was actually at a sports-related event. I presumed it to be ready; but it still needs some sources and work, thus it really wasn't ready to be posted at ITN back then. But anyway, I congratulate you on last year's WikiCup victory, and I promise you that I'll prevail the next time this situation happens! ;) (I'm doubtful it will, however.) ~ Tails   Wx  (he/him, aroace, 🐾) 23:02, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh, and by the way, I'm curious: on C. O. Brocato, why did ya decide to tag the newspapers.com references with, although they're freeview clippings? Just curious; I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything. Thanks! ~  Tails   Wx  (he/him, aroace, 🐾) 22:56, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * That's just how I've done it. I think tagging it with "open access" makes sense for the clippings, since anyone can view them, whereas plain page searches (e.g. ) are tagged with "url-access=subscription" since only subscribers can view them. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:09, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * That's fair; I always thought of tagging them with for the clippings, since anyone could view them as ya stated above, but tagging with  sounds reasonable. :) ~  Tails   Wx  (he/him, aroace, 🐾) 23:17, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hey @BeanieFan11, I actually had been discussing this with Tails off wiki and encouraged them to reach out for clarification. I've been doing some digging and I found this discussion: Wikipedia talk:Newspapers.com/Archive 1
 * The example at Newspapers.com was to remove free access from the reference in 2018 based on that discussion. I feel like I've been spending days trying to figure out what's the most correct way to handle this situation since I plan to continue to use Newspaper.com refs for the content I'm trying to promote. Hey man im josh (talk) 00:59, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't know where I originally got the idea for "open access" for the clippings (probably from watching someone else do it ); not sure if there's a "most correct" way to handle the situation but I think it ultimately comes down to individual editor preference – I've seen different editors format it at least four different ways. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:07, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of 1897 South Dakota State Jackrabbits football team for deletion
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:New Jersey Athletic Club football seasons


A tag has been placed on Category:New Jersey Athletic Club football seasons indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 18:48, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Philadelphia Crescent Athletic Club football seasons


A tag has been placed on Category:Philadelphia Crescent Athletic Club football seasons indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 18:49, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Dom DiSandro
WaggersTALK  00:02, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Forest Van Hook
 Schwede 66  00:02, 14 January 2024 (UTC) GalliumBot (talk • contribs) (he/it) 03:28, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of 1892 Biddle football team for deletion
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Nomination of 1892 Livingstone football team for deletion
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Nomination of 1901 Wilmington Conference Academy football team for deletion
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Attack at 1901 Wilmington Conference Academy football team
I respectfully ask you to please strike the personal attack at the AfD for the 1901 Wilmington Conference Academy football team article. If you have an issue with my AfD nominations, you are welcome to take me to ANI. Let&#39;srun (talk) 20:12, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * All I said was that it felt excessive for you to nominate an article written by me for deletion at an average of one every ~3 days. I do not see how that is a personal attack. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:24, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It comes with the inherent accusation that I am targeting your articles for deletion, which I am not. I am targeting articles which do not meet the criteria met by WP:NSEASONS, some of which were created by you, and many more which were not. Once again, I ask for you to strike that part of your post. Let&#39;srun (talk) 23:43, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * If you are not targeting my articles, then I truly wonder how you found to tag for notability Marshall Edwards, Pete Swanson, Frank Robinson and Joe Rowe – four completely unrelated football players who are listed as my creations mostly in that order from the same month – all in a span of four minutes? Or how did you find the 1916 Tusculum Pioneers football team – an article outside your NSEASONS-deletion focus of the 1800s-1900s but related to an article I wrote? Or how did you find six consecutive of my unrelated season creations all to be ones you thought worthy of AFD nomination in that order? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:17, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Using categories created for the respective teams, and the early college football seasons. I also nominated season articles from the 1920s [] so I'm confused how the 1916 article is outside that focus of the first roughly 50 seasons of plainly non-notable "season" articles. For the last time, I ask you to strike that comment. Let&#39;srun (talk) 02:41, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * And about Edwards, Swanson, Robinson and Rowe? BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:50, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * And quite interesting that immediately after this, you mass maintenance tag for notability many of the season articles by me for three different programs, with no others not related to me; no, one does not randomly come across so many programs created by me when there's at least ten times as many similar articles from different programs in the same shape and state. And even if that's all random, I still ask: what about Edwards, Swanson, Robinson and Rowe? BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:10, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm confused, were you/are you MisterCake? That is who created the Lewisburg articles I tagged. Let&#39;srun (talk) 03:15, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * One season after the 1883 Lewisburg football team – 1887 Bucknell football team – an article I created. Also avoiding Edwards, Swanson, Robinson and Rowe... BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:58, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I already answered that above. Categories....Let&#39;srun (talk) 03:59, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Pete Swanson and Marshall Edwards literally have no categories in common... how could you possibly find them both in the span of a minute, aside from looking at my user page, where they are listed directly next to each other as some of my earliest work? BeanieFan11 (talk) 04:09, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Because there are ways to switch queries beyond who created the article? Let&#39;srun (talk) 04:15, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm finding your response difficult to understand; but the only place these articles (Swanson, Edwards) are connected are at my userpage, where they are listed next to each other. There are no "categories" that connect them; considering the thousands of NFL stubs, how could your "queries" come across only mine? BeanieFan11 (talk) 04:28, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * They don't. You just picked 4 articles that I have tagged which were created by you through searching multiple categories of NFL teams (and you have hundreds of articles). I don't have any issue with the vast majority of your articles, just because I maybe disagree with 1-2% of your creations (if that) does not mean I am single-handedly targeting them. Let&#39;srun (talk) 00:43, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * You're avoiding the question; tell me exactly how you found those four completely unrelated articles in a span of four minutes. Also interesting how immediately after my comment at 4:28 you voted "delete" at two AFDs I contributed inclusion-leaning comments to (Articles for deletion/Hussain Ali Nasayyif, Articles for deletion/Tirioro Willie) in rapid succession with no others for a good 10+ minutes, then immediately after your response here you find another of them in Articles for deletion/Karl Schwegler. Quite interesting. But aside from that, answer the question: tell me, exactly, how you came across Swanson, Edwards, Robinson and Rowe in four minutes. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:59, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'll repeat myself: searching multiple categories of NFL teams. Let&#39;srun (talk) 01:04, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * OK - so in four minutes, you randomly searched Category:Brooklyn Dodgers (NFL) players, completely randomly came across, out of over 200 others, Marshall Edwards which I happened to create, found it to tag for notability; one minute later, randomly searched Category:Los Angeles Rams players, containing over 1,000, and randomly choose to tag for notability Pete Swanson, the article I created right after Edwards; then one minute later randomly searched Category:St. Louis Rams players, a category of over 800, randomly found Joe Rowe, which I coincidentally created right after Swanson; and then one minute later, searched Category:Denver Broncos players, a category of ~1,600, and randomly found to tag for notability Frank Robinson, whom I also coincidentally happened to create right around the time of Rowe? If so, that is the most amazing coincidence I have heard of in my life. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:09, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * How about this: why don't you tell me, exactly, how you came across these articles (Swanson, Edwards, Robinson, Rowe), and we can end this discussion? BeanieFan11 (talk) 04:49, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

DYK
... that Keshawn Banks' only NFL appearance came in the playoffs?

Hope you take it to DYK! Could be a good hook about his only game being in the playoffs :) « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 01:28, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the message! I hadn't thought of that as a potential DYK hook, but will nominate it soon. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:53, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * A few interesting WP:PACKERS ones to consider for the Wikicup: John Martinkovic, Clyde Van Sickle, Hank Bruder, Joe Laws, George Svendsen, Charley Brock, Bob Monnett and Red Dunn. All short stubs on interesting players who were in the early years of the NFL and played a lot of seasons! « Gonzo fan2007  <small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)  @ 21:56, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks - probably will do most of the work in the later rounds of the competition - also newspapers.com seems to be down so I can't do any currently - but thanks for the list :) BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:58, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Been awhile – but I'm back with another Packers article – see Bob Noel. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Anthony Tieku
Hi BeanieFan11, I hope you are doing well. Whenever you have some free time, could you please help me find additional sources for Anthony Tieku, aside from the ones I have already cited in the article? Also, I noticed some references on Newspapers.com, but I do not have the subscription for it! Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 19:35, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I can take a look at some point soon. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:53, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Apologies for taking so long to get to this. I took a quick look myself and wasn't able to find that much besides what's already listed in the article; Newspapers.com just had one box score mention it seems. There appear to be a few mentions of Tieku in the archives of Modern Ghana but I'm not sure its enough. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:22, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

1893 Western Maryland Green Terror football team moved to draftspace
Thanks for your contributions to 1893 Western Maryland Green Terror football team. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because per request at Liz's Talk. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Star  Mississippi  13:28, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for restoring and draftifiying. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:15, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Any time. Clearly the script knew your record-keeping preferences better than I :D
 * Happy editing. Star   Mississippi  03:12, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:UC San Diego Tritons football seasons has been nominated for deletion
Category:UC San Diego Tritons football seasons has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Let&#39;srun (talk) 23:53, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Georgetown football, pre–1890 for deletion
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adjacent AfD

 * assume you're watching, but since I forgot to ping you, I draftified 1881 Georgetown football team for you per Articles for deletion/1881 Georgetown football team until this discussion is resolved and the target can be sorted. Not watching the draft, so just ping me if you need anything. Star   Mississippi  02:43, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but as you can see in my last comment there I created Georgetown football, 1874–1889 so that draftification wouldn't be needed; its pretty much figured out that it (1881) only needs to be redirected to that page now (which looks like its heading towards keep, as the AFD for it was a bit silly). Thanks, and sorry if I am creating any extra work for you. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:05, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * No worries. I'll be honest, I was a little confused by the end of the discussion (not your fault, just the volume) and the subsequent AfD. Didn't want to do the redirect and then have it lost as a G8 if the AfD didn't close as retained.
 * Want me to redirect the draft or you'll do so when it closes? No preference on my end. It's just a few clicks, so less work than if you needed to ask for it. Star   Mississippi  03:22, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'll just redirect it myself once the AFD is closed. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:37, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * BTW would you be willing to restore the AFD-deleted List of current National Football League staffs to something like WikiProject National Football League/List of current National Football League staffs? I've found it useful in the past for editing purposes and it seems there's others who did as well. Thanks, BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:35, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi @BeanieFan11. I'm going to decline this one. Given there was a clear consensus against that article continuing to exist (vs the others where the material is fine, it's just a question of where it should live and you creating the requisite merger targets, etc.) I feel restoring it would overrule community consensus. I have a feeling it will land at DRV, which I'm OK with. I feel like this information should probably live somewhere, it just probably isnt on Wiki. Let me know if you need more info. Star   Mississippi  03:06, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear, I'm not asking for it to be part of mainspace again; the list is useful for editors in making changes relating to NFL team staffs and coaches, etc. so I think it would be good in projectspace like you did before with Articles for deletion/List of National Football League players with unidentified given names. If you don't think the community consensus supports such an action, I may bring it to DRV to check if you're alright with that (not exactly disagreeing with the closure, which I think was correct, just I think it would serve purpose in projectspace to assist editors like myself in contributing). BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:15, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm absolutely fine with that DRV, @BeanieFan11 and if you do so this evening please feel free to point to this discussion as my blessing to explore the target as I'm about to log off. I'll weigh in to support it when I log back on. I think in this case the DRV would be more productive to establish the new location than a restoration and move which I think would lead to MfD especially since the ANI requester's userpage version was speedied and the last thing we need is even more bureaucracy. It's similar to the so-called permission to allow recreation vs. a G4 that we sometimes see in DRV. I was hoping for an ATD but your position didn't seem to get much traction whereas I think in this request for Project space, it might once folks aren't looking at notability. FWIW if I'd participated as an editor, I probably would have !voted the same as you did. It's useful, but alas it isn't notable nor really could it ever be. Is that helpful? Star   Mississippi  03:23, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll open one tomorrow. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:27, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Eh, I didn't comment at that AfD because I couldn't come up with a guideline-based reason for keeping but I think it's a useful navigational aid. It's not everyday a reader complains about an article that was deleted. Not sure it's too different from the lists in Category:Lists of current team rosters. Also, technically you could just transclude the templates yourself in projectspace but that's not going to help readers. ~WikiOriginal-9~  ( talk ) 03:45, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Wasn't able to get to it today, but I'll make sure I do at some point soon. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:05, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Ken Moore (American football)
—Kusma (talk) 13:08, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Welcome to the drive!
Welcome, welcome, welcome BeanieFan11! I'm glad that you are joining the drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles. CactiStaccingCrane (talk)18:39, 1 February 2024 UTC //en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BeanieFan11&action=purge refresh via JWB and Geardona (talk to me?)

DYK for Patrick O'Connell (American football)
—Kusma (talk) 00:03, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Goldey–Beacom Lightning baseball coaches has been nominated for merging
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Category:Beacom College men& has been nominated for merging
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Category:Beacom College football coaches has been nominated for merging
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Category:Goldey–Beacom Lightning men& has been nominated for merging
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DYK for Twink Twining
—Kusma (talk) 00:03, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Nick Whiteside
—Kusma (talk) 12:08, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Page mover granted
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If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! Hey man im josh (talk) 20:01, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Did you know...
... that Ibraheim Campbell wore a different jersey number every year of his 7-year career. ~WikiOriginal-9~ ( talk ) 18:54, 8 February 2024 (UTC)]
 * That's a lot of different jersey numbers! The only one with more that I can think of off the top of my head is Cal Hubbard, with eight in eight years (although it wasn't a different one each year; one was for two seasons). BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:58, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I found someone else with a lot of numbers, Crezdon Butler: 11 different numbers total. 8 from the NFL and 3 from the CFL. He had some of those numbers multiple times too. Still tied with Hubbard for # of different NFL numbers with 8. ~WikiOriginal-9~  ( talk ) 02:52, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:BeanieFan11/Bill Collins (American football player)
User:BeanieFan11/Bill Collins (American football player), a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:BeanieFan11/Bill Collins (American football player) and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:BeanieFan11/Bill Collins (American football player) during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Owen&times; &#9742;  19:50, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 February newsletter
The 2024 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with 135 participants. This is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2017.

Our current leader is newcomer, who has one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher) and 10 GAs and 12 DYKs mostly on New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures. Here are some more noteworthy scorers:


 * , with one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, and two DYKs;
 * , with one FA on Doom (2016 video game), one GA on Boundary Fire (2017), and 11 reviews;
 * , with one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and two DYKs;
 * , with one FA on OneShot and one DYK;
 * , with five GAs and five DYKs on television and radio stations;
 * and, both with one FA and one DYK each.

As a reminder, competitors may submit work for the first round until 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February, and the second round starts 1 March. Remember that only the top 64 scoring competitors will make it through to the second round; currently, competitors need at least 15 points to progress. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (,, and ) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:57, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of 1903 Western Illinois Purple and Gold football team for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 1903 Western Illinois Purple and Gold football team is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/1903 Western Illinois Purple and Gold football team until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. Let&#39;srun (talk) 22:54, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Goldey–Beacom Lightning men's soccer


A tag has been placed on Category:Goldey–Beacom Lightning men's soccer indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. ✗ plicit  14:49, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Goldey–Beacom Lightning baseball


A tag has been placed on Category:Goldey–Beacom Lightning baseball indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. ✗ plicit  14:49, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Beacom College men's basketball


A tag has been placed on Category:Beacom College men's basketball indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. ✗ plicit  14:49, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I deleted the above empty categories early in order to link to the cause, Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_3. If you have any other material with which to repopulate them, I will happily undelete them. – Fayenatic  L ondon 18:22, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Keshawn Banks
Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Npp
@BeanieFan11 Patrol the page Fisayomi Abebi Thanks. Jutos222 (talk) 22:53, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I don't review pages on request. I am sure a NPP member will get to it at their earliest convenience. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:02, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Andy Dickerson
—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:03, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Andy Dickerson (offensive lineman, born 1963)
—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:03, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Brandon Coleman (offensive lineman)
Hello! Your submission of Brandon Coleman (offensive lineman) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! grungaloo (talk) 17:14, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

DYK for 1892 Biddle vs. Livingstone football game
RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you – this means a lot coming from a prolific editor like you! BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:19, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

What ever happened to the contest proposal?
Hi!

I happened upon your proposal for a sports cleanup contest and I think it’s a cool idea. Any status updates about it?

Cheers, RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 22:36, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately there hasn't been much progress recently, although I do still hope to eventually get it done. Currently waiting on to provide several of the stub lists. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:57, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Cool :) RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 23:06, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Brad Kragthorpe
Z1720 (talk) 00:03, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Georgetown football, 1874–1889
Hello! Your submission of Georgetown football, 1874–1889 at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! – Muboshgu (talk) 04:24, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 March newsletter
The first round of the 2024 WikiCup ended at 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February. Everyone with at least 30 points moved on to Round 2, the highest number of points required to advance to the second round since 2014. Due to a six-way tie for the 64th-place spot, 67 contestants have qualified for Round 2.

The following scorers in Round 1 all scored more than 300 points:


 * , who has 916 points mostly from one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher), 15 GAs, and 16 DYKs on a variety of topics including New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures, in addition to seven reviews
 * , who has 790 points from two FAs on Felix M. Warburg House and Doom (2016 video game), two GAs, one DYK, and 11 reviews
 * , who has 580 points from one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, two DYKs, and five reviews
 * , who has 420 points mostly from nine GAs and seven DYKs on television and radio stations
 * , who has 351 points from one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and three DYKs
 * , who has 345 points from one FA on OneShot, one DYK and two reviews

In this newsletter, the judges would like to pay a special tribute to, who unfortunately passed away this February. At the time of his death, he was the second-highest-scoring competitor. Outside the WikiCup, he had eight other featured articles, five A-class articles, eight other good articles, and two Four Awards. Vami also wrote an essay on completionism, a philosophy in which he deeply believed. If you can, please join us in honoring his memory by improving one of the articles on his to-do list.

Remember that any content promoted after 27 February but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:40, 28 February 2024 (UTC)