User talk:Beantwo

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Hello. As a recent editor to User talk:70.116.66.29, I wanted to leave a friendly reminder that as per WP:USER, editors may remove messages at will from their own talk pages. While we may prefer that comments be archived instead, policy does not prohibit users -including anonymous editors like this one- from deleting messages or warnings from their own talk pages. The only kinds of talk page messages that cannot be removed (as per WP:BLANKING) are declined unblock requests (but only while blocks are still in effect), confirmed sockpuppet notices, or IP header templates (for unregistered editors). These exceptions only exist in order to keep a user from potentially gaming the system. Thanks, Kralizec! (talk) 02:57, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

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March 2009
You have been blocked from editing for in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for violating the three-revert rule. Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes or seek dispute resolution rather than engaging in an edit war. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text below.

Comment on block
Unless I missed something, Beantwo did not violate 3RR, and a warning would have been, at most, the proper thing to do. He was not reverting vandalism, however, he was reverting an IP insertion of a section dispute tag. Beantwo may have been naive, and did not realize that a reviewing admin may not have the time to do his own research; while this is regrettable (my opinion is that no admin should deny an unblock request if the admin isn't willing to verify, for starters, the conditions that led to the block, or at least to check the assertions of the unblock request. Denial of a request isn't an emergency and if an admin doesn't have time, then the admin should leave it to someone else.

Having said this, Beantwo, it's very easy to get blocked when you think you are following guidelines for articles, but you break the guideline about 3RR. You can be blocked without warning, sometimes, though I think you should have been warned here instead of blocked, particularly because you didn't break 3RR, but stopped at it, but appealing a short block can be more trouble than it's worth; the efficient thing to do would have been to present diff evidence that your actions were proper. Except I've looked at them and I have my doubts about their propriety. The IP editor you were reverting attempted to discuss the matter in Talk, you did not. Therefore I conclude that you were edit warring, and while you got somewhat of a harsh sanction for it, unless you stop and think. Just how terrible is it to be blocked for 12 hours? It's almost not even a slap on the wrist.

It's an easy mistake to make, but starting to rave about it, and about an admin making a decision, even if the decision is wrong -- and it may not have been wrong -- can make it worse. Let it go. I mean really, abandon any idea that what was done to you was "wrong," though you can still think there was a mistake. I've been blocked. It sucks. But, in the end, maybe it's good to get some perspective. My block was indef, if I'd started raving, I'd still be blocked, I'm sure. I still challenged aspects of the block, but in a maximally non-disruptive way, and received, effectively, apologies, and then dropped the rest. You don't have to lie down and play dead, but be civil, respect the good faith of admins, including those who might have blocked you, and move on. Good luck. --Abd (talk) 18:54, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Great post Abd! Thanks! If only admins had this way of thinking. Apparenlty I didn't look at that specific talk page because the existing reverts to that same user by registered users moments before. That's something I could see needing be done regardless. Just not a lot of vandals discuss it so I got in that pattern. Noobs :D Beantwo (talk) 00:38, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, many admins are quite aligned with what I write, Beantwo, they do think this way. Never assume that an IP editor is a vandal, and don't get into an edit war with an IP editor. You can't win, not by yourself. Make a revert, maybe two with obvious vandalism, but ... then get help, such as RfPP, if you run into IP edit warring. Try to engage the editor on Talk; when you make any repetitive revert, use "see Talk" in your edit summary and open discussion of the edit or your revert on the Talk page, explaining your action. You'd have seen the IP editor's talk comment. The edit you were reverting was harmless, not clear vandalism. If it had been obvious vandalism, you'd have had no trouble, usually. See my extended comment on AN/I. And good luck. --Abd (talk) 01:49, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

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