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Christopher Harrison
Hey Bedford! I have the perfect DYK article I just wrote. I think you are bound to be able to get a good one out of it. Check it out Christopher Harrison. Charles Edward 03:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I nominated it, but you'll get sole credit for creating it. Note that if you start an article on a person, you should type  on its talk page so the BIO WP knows about it as does the Indiana WP.-- Bedford  Pray  04:40, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

ShepBot
I thought I had reverted all of the Louisville articles before you stopped ShepBot. Were there some I missed I need to tak care of? Thanks for keeping an eye on things; I woke up with a keyboard imprint on my face... §hep   •   ¡Talk to me!  14:01, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd also like to note that the category that seems to have snuck in was Category:Neighborhoods in Louisville. I've ran 3 more filters for keywords to keep out and this shoud be the one and only bump for this ride.  Do I have your permission to restart if there are no more issues?  §hep   •   ¡Talk to me!  14:17, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. Go ahead.-- Bedford  Pray  16:23, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

WQA on you
As you know, a WQA was filed against you by User:Broooooooce. Some of the issues are not for WQA, but there are some that are cause for concern. However, you seem to be a talented editor, and I trust that a reminder will be sufficient: please remember that personal attacks and incivility drives away contributors, distracts others from more important matters, and weakens the entire community.

If someone is harassing you or something, you know the way to handle it, I'm sure. (ANI is probably the best option so someone uninvolved deals with it) But responses like the one at the WQA ("lament lament lament") are not going to help - they simply escalate the dispute, and you end up being (legitimately) dragged through the various forms of dispute resolution for something that's very avoidable - I don't want to see that happen here either.

If you can refrain from engaging in that sort of conduct, and be civil in your interactions with others wherever you are on wiki (even if it's on the WQA page itself) that would be great. If you take note of that, then I think the matter has ended and I will close the WQA. Cheers - Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:44, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

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Hines House Picture?
Hey man, I took a picture of the house which should logically be at 1103 Adams Street. Well, this is what was there.



Since I couldn't find a numerical adress posted, I assumed this is correct. The architecture on the house certainly looks old and it would explain why you couldn't find the house when you looked for it.

On a different note, since you've done a lot more historic site entries than I have, I'd like your opinion on my write up of Riverview at Hobson Grove. Thanks in advance! I'm planning on adding two sites on the National Register of Historic Places, Cherry Hall and Van Meter Hall, both located on the campus of Western Kentucky University.

Regards,

OPMaster (talk) 21:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I have doubts that that is the Hines House; doesn't look like a place where a man of Hines' stature would live in. I'll ask the Kentucky Historical Society.  Your two article look very nice; your Cherry Hall article could get a DYK nom from me if some interesting fact is added and cited.-- Bedford  Pray  22:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I've looked, and it could be; Hines House is said to be Federal architecture, which is mostly brick.-- Bedford Pray  23:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I know it seems odd that R.C. Cola would now be using it as an office, but I've seen stranger things happen. I finished the Van Meter Hall article, if you're interested in having a looksee.

OPMaster (talk) 01:00, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

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6/3 DYK
Bedford - Thank you for including the Clarence Islands at DYK! --Rosiestep (talk) 16:28, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Bowling Green NRHP Sites
Thanks to your initial message about the Hines House, I've gone a little bit bonkers documenting NRHP sites here in Bowling Green. I'm wondering, is this insignifigant, or is there a real drive on to document every single place on the NRHP? I added the Western Kentucky University Heating Plant, but I really wonder how many people would actually care to read the article about it.

Anyway, just thought you might get a kick out of inspiring somebody to write up a bunch sites in this area of the state.

Regards, OPMaster (talk) 00:05, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm glad to here I encouraged you like this. There are two monuments on the National Register in Fairview Cemetery.  One I already have pictures of, but the other I still need.  I'd appreciate you taking pictures of it.-- Bedford  Pray  00:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I assume you mean the Perry Monument? If so, I'll see what I can do when I'm off again.

OPMaster (talk) 01:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Awesome, that's it; I forgot its name. If you lengthen the Heating Plant article a little bit, you can get another DYK out of it.-- Bedford  Pray  01:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I know I must seem terribly ignorant, but what do you mean by another DYK?

OPMaster (talk) 01:35, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * See Template talk:Did you know. I nominated Van Meter Hall yesterday after I added enough so it qualified lengthwise.-- Bedford  Pray  01:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I updated and expanded the Heating Plant article, maybe now it's DYK elgible.OPMaster (talk) 01:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

House of the Temple
Is this building's history in anyway related to the Belmont Mansion?  APK  yada yada  04:49, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Other than the fact they are important buildings to two separate affiliated bodies to Freemasonry, I don't think so.-- Bedford Pray  04:52, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, that's one of the buildings that I took a picture of thinking it was a NRHP. It sure does look like one. It's massive.  APK  yada yada  04:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised its not. Maybe ask Doncram?-- Bedford  Pray  05:04, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

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DYK
I see you moved McCormick Tribune Plaza & Ice Rink in to next. You left the phrase (pictured), but did not put it in the pictured position or add the picture. I assume this was a mistake for leaving the phrase in, but was hoping you had wanted to use its picture.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 23:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:6/11 DYK
Thanks, Bedford. :D It's been a while. -- RyRy5  ( talk ) 11:11, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

re: Indiana in the Civil War
In theory, I can :) Two problems with this: (i) I'm very busy at the moment (the house is being extended, we've got builders everywhere, and things are going wrong) and (ii) it uses cite templates (which make copy-editing difficult). On the latter point, it might be a good idea to split it into notes and refs (see Operation Camargue): it looks neater for FAC, which presumably is your ultimate destination. I'll try to take a look in a day or two, -- R OGER D AVIES  talk 05:16, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I understood that :) I should have stressed the "I" to make it clearer. The problem is that I enjoy copy-editing very much and hate to see tasty morsels slipping away :) I don't know a good ACW copy-editor though Hlj has a great track record and can certainly tell you which bits need work (known, strangely, as "copy-tasting" rather than "copy-editing"). Qp10qp is an academic and a fine copy-editor (with a background in late medieval European history) but he can turn his hand to nearly anything and has done a fair amount of Milhist stuff. Otherwise, Ruhrfisch or Finetooth are both extremely competent. Finally, you could try Scartol or Yllosubmarine: they both concentrate on literature but are excellent as providing a copy-edit combined with copy-tasting (ie questions and suggestions as they go). -- R OGER D AVIES   talk 05:47, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

NHLs by Fourth of July, or bust
Hi Bedford -- I don't know if you follow wt:NRHP closely or not; maybe you saw this thread: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places. Anyhow, I and some others are on a drive to create stubs, at least, for all the remaining NHLs lacking them, and i notice that 24 or so of the remaining 100 are in List of NHLs in OH. Sometimes when i do NHL stubs, i have been putting in just a sentence or two (leaving no problem if anyone wants to beef it up to 1500 chars and get a DYK later), the NRHP infobox, and adding NHL designation date to infobox with a link to NHL summary webpage. It would be great if you would help out with any of these.... Cheers, doncram (talk) 21:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I did see it, and am planning on taking pictures of NHLs in Indianapolis this weekend. I'll try to do those in Indiana and Kentucky.-- Bedford  Pray  22:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Great, though i didn't mean to imply we were going to try to get photos for all the NHLs by July 4. List of NHLs in KY and List of NHLs in IN are, by low standards, "complete" already perhaps, but i note with just a few clicks that there are problems.  For example, KY's Perryville Battlefield State Historic Site has an infobox showing it is an NHL at the top, but the infobox doesn't have a designated= NHL date and does not include the nearly-standard NHL summary webpage link (which would document the NHL date).  It's not clear what we'll try to do, standards-wise, but perhaps getting the NHL summary link into every article is one goal.  Also that article doesn't include the NRHP text/photo PDF file links which are nice too.  Your checking for that kind of stuff, and fixing it and/or mentioning such in the Fourth of July checklist column, would be most appreciated.  Thanks! doncram (talk) 23:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * pics are great, of course. i'd love to see a pic of Broad Ripple Park Carousel, in particular! doncram (talk) 23:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

forget about it
Harmless slip :) - no need for apologies. Have a great weekend!  Vishnava talk  03:41, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Whoever selected it for next update accredited you for it, and I didn't know better and just went with it.-- Bedford  Pray  03:42, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

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Lawrenceburg Confederate Monument
No, I don't live near the monument; I live in Spain. I just saw it on the list of Civil War Monuments of Kentucky and decided to create it. Gothbag (talk) 09:49, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Admin Noticeboard
The person whose one and only contribution was a threat of "promised harassment" has been blocked indefinately. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Very best wishes,  Lra drama 20:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I know the identity of the one who seeks to harass you
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I know the identity of the one who seeks to harass you
Greetings. The name of the one who tries to harass you is Martin Wood. He has rich parents, a Phd in organic chemistry and a taste for expensive champagne. If I discover his motives or any other information which may be of use then I shall pass it on to you. This is the truth which I pass on because it is the right thing to do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.189.143.57 (talk) 19:19, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Indiana in the Civil War
Hey Bedford! Congrats on the GA! That article has turned out pretty great. Thanks for you help. Charles Edward 18:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

In fact...


 * Thanks; I've been wanting this Barnstar. :D -- Bedford Pray  19:04, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Break
OK, thanks for the heads up, B. We all need a break sometimes, and I think you need a break from typing all those new articles or you will end up with writer's cramp! Enjoy ;) Gatoclass (talk) 18:59, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll be going to Origins Game Fair in Columbus, Ohio, so it won't be that restive, but hopefully enjoyable. Thanks.-- Bedford  Pray  19:05, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

references for DYK articles
Hey, we overlap considerably in our interests, and i would like to continue to get along well. It offends me somewhat, however, to see in many of your DYK articles (sometimes expansions of stubs that i started) that you use bare references. It offends me because it seems sloppy and sorta mean, leaving it to me and others to clean up after you. For example, in the Harrison article up for DYK tomorrow, I could add NHL and NRHP related references, and otherwise improve the article somewhat, but I pause because it appears to me you didn't describe the references you use properly. I don't know if I should "help" or not, it sorta feels like you want to exploit my good will, that you wouldn't bother to do the basics yourself. In one article recently that was an expansion of a stub i started, you added what i view as poor, bare references, which in fact were the same references as the good-quality references i had already added, but it appears that you didn't bother to notice. Anyhow, I just want to ask you to try to do better. I think it would be relatively easy for you to deliver proper references. I hope you will take this suggestion in a positive way. sincerely, doncram (talk) 05:16, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I use the reference style that I did when I went to college: AUTHORLASTNAME, AUTHORFIRSTNAME. NAMEOFARTICLE(IFRELEVANT), NAMEOFPUBLICATION (PUBLISHER, DATEORYEAROFPUBLISHING). pg.PAGENUMBER. If its a webpage, it's usually easier to just give the site address.  If I did all the fancy citations style, which makes it almost impossible to decipher what is reference and what is main article, it would be easier on me not to contribute anything.  It's the ridiculous reference style that is why I only have 2 GAs to my credit when I could possible have 20-30 by now; it's not worth the effort.  I can happily live with a bunch of B's.-- Bedford  Pray  05:25, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Twofer
I probably would have picked that up, but thanks for the reminder :) Gatoclass (talk) 07:30, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Camps for Russian prisoners and internees in Poland (1919–1924)
Could you post a comment there why one of the B criteria you assessed was not met? Thanks, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 18:31, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

DYK pic placement
Hi Bedford - its possible that's its an issue with my firefox page, but the picture in the DYK section is awkwardly placed, creating a big gap as it pushes the DYKs below it. Shouldn't its position be placed under the first DYK statement?  Vishnava talk  05:51, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Fixed. Gatoclass (talk) 05:53, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think Vishg means that, when he promoted it, he had the image under the hook. Still Gato, you did do a needed fix.  Now I just need you to do my credit for the place.-- Bedford  Pray  05:54, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah I suggested the placement to avoid the format flap.  Vishnava talk  06:02, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

DYK 6/21

 * Hi - its time for the next update.  Vishnava talk  00:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Horseshoe Southern Indiana
Hi, I edited it and moved the information from Caesars Indiana to Horseshoe Southern Indiana. The reason my I changed it the website for Caesars in now Horseshoe Southern Indiana)
 * I am sort of a beginner meaning I not advanced and don’t get how you put the create of Caesars under Horseshoe and I don’t know my you unedited the page. B64 (talk) 04:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Recent Additions page
Bedford, you do know you're supposed to archive the previous set of hooks when you post a new update to the front page, don't you? You haven't done it on several occasions lately. Gatoclass (talk) 06:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. However, I've heard I should do it immediately, and then I've heard to wait until its taken off before I put them on the archive.  As a result, I tend not to do either, although I would if I knew which way it is supposed to be.-- Bedford  <sup style="color:pink;">Pray  06:32, 23 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I left some instructions on the discussion page, but basically, all you need to do is archive the previous set of hooks either just before or just after you post the new ones. I prefer to post the new update first, and then I just reload the previous edit from the history page and delete/unprotect the old image and then archive the old set of hooks. It literally only takes me a minute to do both, so it really isn't an onerous job. But it really needs to be done because you can't assume the next updater will know you didn't archive. On the other hand, not doing the notifications doesn't matter so much because they are left up until someone does them. Gatoclass (talk) 15:15, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

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DYK archive
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Magoffin County, Kentucky courthouse
Hi ;-) How's it going? I noticed that we still need the above courthouse to complete everything except the stuff in the west part of the state. We're traveling from Georgetown, KY to Williamson, WV this weekend. I plan to get Magoffin County, Kentucky courthouse on Saturday. Is there anything in particular that you know is needed in the same locale or elsewhere along the route to complete any gaps in Kentucky projects? If you do, let me know and I'll try to plan our route and time to get them. ( small print warning:No guarantees. Amount of work my be affected by weather, getting lost, or pure laziness. ) FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 19:51, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice to see you're back. I am away to Origins Game Fair.  Look at the List of Civil War Monuments of Kentucky and see if you'll go by anyplace I still need a pic of.  Thanks.-- Bedford  <sup style="color:pink;">Pray  00:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Fyi, there are 2 NRHPs in Magoffin County, not including the courthouse building which does not appear to be a NRHP, now listed in table format at List of Registered Historic Places in Kentucky (Madison County to Owsley County). doncram (talk) 00:59, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

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Solution for delays in DYK updates
Hi - check it out - as per the discussion at WT:DYK, I've created 3 test model template (albeit rudimentary; feel free to improve design): DYKUpdateRED, DYKUpdateGreen, DYKUpdateYellow  Vishnava talk  04:10, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

NPS NHL photo contest
Hi Bedford -- See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places. I didn't know about this contest before. You should submit a couple pics! Ten percent of submissions last year (12 / 125) were winners. doncram (talk) 20:17, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I hear their email inbox is full up. But CDs postmarked by tomorrow are ok.  Also, i wonder if you could tally your own NHL pics, at WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/PhotoCreditsForNHLsByState.  It would help me greatly right now if you right away could visit what is there for u ( i spotted 3 NHL lead pics in IN for u so far ), correct, and add your others.  If not, that's ok, it just would be a real help if done right away.  Thanks! doncram (talk) 03:19, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I just got back. I have a lot of NHLs in Louisville, and took one for the Daniel Beard House on Wednesday I need to put up.-- Bedford  <sup style="color:pink;">Pray  03:20, 30 June 2008 (UTC)