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Chris Eccleshall
I'm sure that this article should exist, because there are others about people no more important than Chris. He is a luthier's luthier, one of the grand old men of the British guitar business along with Tony Zemaitis and John Birch, and hard to find in the brash shop fronts of the web. He is also already referenced in the Wikipedia articles Peter_Hook and George_Lowden, and was a notable part of Rory Gallagher's, Eric Clapton's and Pete Townshend's life and work. Please help me to make the article survive, by making suggestions as to how it can be improved.

Beeflin (talk) 13:46, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the message on my talk page. I can understand your frustration. The way to establish notability is by reference to "significant coverage in reliable sources" - please see the guidance at WP:BIO. That does not mean that you have to provide actual documentary proof, eg scans of relevant magazine articles etc, but you should cite those sources so that anyone who cares to can verify them by actually finding the sources and reading them. Now, "significant coverage" does not just mean a press release or a directory type listing, it means coverage where his contributions to his field are discussed, eg what makes his instruments the instruments of choice of his clients, what have his peers said about his work, detailed reviews of his instruments etc. I think the best way for you to proceed is to re-create the article as a user subpage - you can ask the deleting admin, User:Shereth, to un-delete the article to a subpage for you or you can start from scratch by creating the page at User:Beeflin/Chris Eccleshall. Please let me know if you need any help with this. A couple of other points: I have asked for the re-created talk page to be speedily deleted - it is not usually appropriate for an article talk page to exist without a corresponding article. Please take a look at WP:OSE - it is not usually helpful in a deletion discussion to plead that similar articles exist, for the reasons stated therein. Hope this has helped - please get back to me, I am more than happy to help you work on this. – ukexpat (talk) 13:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Glad I could help. – ukexpat (talk) 03:36, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Just in case you didn't catch the reply on my talk page, I've moved the article into your user space per your request. Shereth 14:29, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Chris Eccleshall moved
Thanks for the recent message. You have certainly beefed up the references. I have moved the article to Chris Eccleshall. Will do a little clean up too. – ukexpat (talk) 02:21, 1 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Wow the 335 is thing of beauty. I used to play the double bass many years ago and always wanted a bass guitar... – ukexpat (talk) 02:38, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Categories
Just responding to your question about categories. The Eccleshall article is in the Category:Guitar makers. That category is a subcategory of Category:Luthiers. Generally speaking it is inappropriate for an article to be in both a parent and a subcategory. I'll take a look at the other articles you mentioned and see if the same applies. – ukexpat (talk) 15:57, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

That v. which
Just a note to say that when you are "correcting" the use of that to which, be aware that restrictive clauses use that perfectly legitimately, and in some versions of English, which is considered incorrect in restrictive clauses. Cheers, Bretonbanquet (talk) 23:10, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice, which I am sure is correct - but can you supply some examples? I find the technical term "restrictive clause" rather opaque when trying to relate it to "that" v. "which".

Beeflin (talk) 23:49, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Beatles album track listings
I have no problem with track list templates like this one in general. In fact, I agree that these can be helpful when there are articles for each song on the album to which to navigate. However, with these Beatles ones, each of the articles also have a navbox that serves the same identical navigational purpose. For example, look at the article for You Never Give Me Your Money – not only does it have a track list template for Abbey Road (Abbey Road tracks), it also has a navbox for Abbey Road with link to all the songs from the album. Do each of these articles need both of these templates? I recommend that you comment at the ongoing TfD at Templates for discussion/Log/2012 October 28, as your input is welcome and encouraged. Thanks. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 16:16, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Dorje Shugden controversy
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Read WP:SAY
Read WP:SAYVictoriaGraysonTalk 02:56, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Victoria, this is helpful Beeflin (talk) 02:56, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Kirk Duncan


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The article does have a reference under External - is this in the wrong place, or is it inadequate for some reason? Beeflin (talk) 06:54, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Household Financial
Hello Beeflin,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Household Financial for deletion, because it doesn't appear to contain any encyclopedic content. Take a look at our suggestions for essential content in short articles to learn what should be included.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&action=edit&section=new&preload=Template:Hangon_preload&preloadtitle=This+page+should+not+be+speedy+deleted+because...+ contest this deletion], but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

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