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WikiProject Malaysia July 2010 newsletter
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WikiCup 2010 June newsletter
We're half way through 2010, and the end of the WikiCup is in sight! Round 3 is over, and we're down to our final 16. Our pool winners were (A),  (B, and the round's overall leader),  (C)  and  (D, joint), but, with the scores reset, everything is to play for in our last pooled round. The pools will be up before midnight tonight, and have been selected randomly by J Milburn. This will be the toughest round yet, and so, as ever, anything you worry may not receive the necessary attention before the end of the round (such as outstanding GA or FA nominations) is welcome at WikiCup/Reviews, and please remember to continue offering reviews yourself where possible. As always, the judges are available to contact via email, IRC or their talk pages, and general discussion about the Cup is welcome on the WikiCup talk page.

Though unaffiliated with the WikiCup, July sees the third Great Wikipedia Dramaout- a project with not dissimilar goals to the WikiCup. Everyone is welcome to take part and do their bit to contribute to the encyclopedia itself.

If you're interested in the scores for the last round of the Cup, please take a look at WikiCup/History/2010/Round 3 and WikiCup/History/2010/Full/Round 3. Our thanks go to for compiling these. As was predicted, Group C ended up the "Group of Death", with 670 points required for second place, and, therefore, automatic promotion. This round will probably be even tougher- again, the top two from each of the two groups will make it through, while the twelve remaining participants will compete for four wildcard places- good luck everyone! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn, Fox and The ed17

Backlog Elimination Drive Has Begun
Hello, I just wanted to take a moment and announce that the July 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive has started, and will run for a month. Thanks for signing up. There's a special prize for most edits on the first day, in case you've got high ambitions. Enjoy! ɳorɑfʈ Talk! 04:13, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

John James (US Army officer)
Hello! Your submission of John James (US Army officer) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! --Pgallert (talk) 09:09, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I have shifted around the content a bit (It was not all "biography"). If you're happy with it, could you please briefly add the ref that verifies the new "Biography" paragraph? - From the previous structure I assume it is #2 but I'm not entirely sure. --Pgallert (talk) 11:11, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I did not create the article so I do not have the offline refs with me. The creator(he is on an ip range) has created similar articles on military subjects so I'm assuming that they are notable. Some have even achieved DYK status. I've left a message for him about it here. Bejinhan  Talk   11:55, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

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Just a thought...
Hi

I can see you're trying to address the concerns in the Article review for Malaysia, and I think you're doing a great job.

I just have a thought about the lead section.

Having less than 4 paragraphs is fine, but that isn't really an argument for removing stuff. If you read the rest of the review it says the lead should briefly cover every major point in the article.

If you look at articles like London, that shows that it's a restructure that's needed - yes, 4 paragraphs, but with some detail.

I quickly edited the existing lead to:User:Begoon/Sandbox/Malaysia Lead. I haven't done much to it - but it shows how you can accommodate the current content basically in one paragraph, leaving 3 more to expand on the other sections.

It's only a thought, but it could be an idea to build that as the other sections are worked through, until we have a good, strong 4 paragraph lead.

Let me know what you think -  Begoon (talk) 10:06, 7 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, thank you, it sounds like a great idea to me.


 * I saw that was what a number of country articles had too(ex, Australia which is an FA).


 * Actually, I had to go offline to attend to some matters but I was going to edit the flora/fauna paragraph... I thought of creating a new section and adding more info about Malaysian flora and fauna(ie. remove the Malaysia has a biodiverse range of flora and fauna, and is considered one of the 17 megadiverse countries. and putting it into a separate section, since flora/fauna is not mentioned in the article).


 * I thought that the economy paragraph was too short for the lead.


 * I appreciate the feedback and will work on having a good 4-paragraph lead. I really need help in this as I'm not too familiar with editing an article for GA. :) Is it ok if I "borrow" your sandbox to work on it? Bejinhan  Talk   11:59, 7 July 2010 (UTC)


 * You are welcome to do whatever you like in that Sandbox page - I added some dummy text/headings etc, so it feels like the real article, and you can see the "shape" of what you do. I'll help too when I can - but I'm not sure when I'll be on or offline. No need to rush too much, though - if we work on it methodically as we go through the article it'll be a much better final result. Your idea is good about expanding the flora/fauna into its own section - if it's one of the 17 nations, then that surely deserves a section of its own. It still deserves a mention in one of the lead paragraphs. My idea would be that you could write one sentence to summarise nearly every one of the many sections, then combine them into the 4 para lead. I'm happy to help copyedit that. You can see from the way it was easy to combine basically the whole of what is there into 1 para, that shouldn't be too hard - and anyway, I enjoy that copyediting part. -  Begoon (talk) 12:15, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_Nadu_Newsprint_and_Papers
Request to our Wikipedians, I'm very happy that my First Article has achieved B-Class on the very first day. After our fellow wikipedians comments, i have worked a lot to Improve my article. I have added a Lot to the article - Images,logos,Geographical Co-ordinates,Charts, Block Diagrams, Tables, National Stock Exchange Details, Criticism for Neutrality of the Article, Many Government web sources for proven references, etc. I have put all my effort to make it achieve Good Article Status. Now, I kindly request you to review My Article & provide your valuable feedback. Raj6644 (talk) 13:43, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for John James (US Army officer)
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 18:03, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Quick note
Hi

So that you are fully "in the picture", I suspect that IPs repeatedly adding this link at Malaysia, Sabah, Sarawak and various other places is all probably related to this ongoing nonsense: Sockpuppet investigations/Her631 (look at the Archived cases too.) It may not be directly related but I'm sure I can hear some quacking going on... :) -  Begoon (talk) 12:01, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

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FLC needing reviewers
Hello! A list you reviewed is needing reviewers at WP:Featured list candidates/List of FC Barcelona honours/archive1. If you could check it against the FL-criteria and indicate you oppose or support, that would be appreciated. Cheers, Sandman888 (talk) 23:29, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

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WP:TROUT
trout This was one of the most blatant assumptions of bad faith that I have seen on Wikipedia. I'm sorry, but you left me no choice. Swarm Talk 03:41, 26 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Hahahaha! Wow. All right, fair enough, fair enough. You turned out to be right. I can't say it changes my message; I thought they just as well could've been a new, confused user (as such instances seem to happen occasionally). I prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt. Anyway, that certainly is an interesting twist, though. Swarm Talk 08:27, 26 July 2010 (UTC)


 * The trout came before they were blocked. At that point, their history was irrelevant. They had 50 edits. There's no way I or anyone would've supported them. I saw no behavior that was unbelievable for a newbie. All that aside, I hope you didn't take the trout personally, it's supposed to be more of a lighthearted jest than an admonishment, and I was just being sarcastic when I said "you left me no choice". So yeah, don't take it as a big deal -- it just seemed like you were bitin' a newcomer at the time. Since they turned out to not to be a newcomer, there's no worries :D...right? Swarm Talk 10:05, 26 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, yes, of course. People receive trouts differently, I guess. I swear, I would be the one to send a trout for assuming bad faith the one time someone's actually acting in bad faith. :P Anyway, no hard feelings, of course. Regards, Swarm Talk 10:25, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

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Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sally Fitzgibbons
I'm not familiar with AFC, so I'm not sure if you're the right person to ask but here I am since you declined it last. OTRS permission has come through for this article, so it is no longer a copyvio. VernoWhitney (talk) 16:11, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

WikiCup 2010 July newsletter
We are half-way through our penultimate round, and nothing is yet certain. Pool A, currently led by has ended up the more competitive, with three contestants (,  and ) scoring over 500 points already. Pool B is led by, who has also scored well over 500. The top two from each pool, as well as the next four highest scorers regardless of pool, will make it through to our final eight. As ever, anything you worry may not receive the necessary attention before the end of the round (such as outstanding GA or FA nominations) is welcome at WikiCup/Reviews, and please remember to continue offering reviews yourself where possible. As always, the judges are available to contact via email, IRC or their talk pages, and general discussion about the Cup is welcome on the WikiCup talk page.

Planning has begun for the 2011 WikiCup, with open discussions concerning scoring and flags for next year's competition. Contributions to those discussions would be appreciated, especially concerning the flags, as next year's signups cannot begin until the flag issue has been resolved. Signups will hopefully open at some point in this round, with discussion about possible changing in the scoring/process opening some time afterwards.

Earlier this round, we said goodbye to, who has bowed out to spend more time on the book he is authoring with his wife. We wish him all the best. In other news, the start of this round also saw some WikiCup awards sent out by. We appreciate his enthusiasm, and contestants are of course welcome to award each other prizes as they see fit, but rest assured that we will be sending out "official" awards at the end of the competition. If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn, Fox and The ed17 22:30, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

GOCE Backlog Elimination Drive Wrap-up
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You have made a critcial error
You allowed the recreation of an article that was deleted via a recent AfD. The IPW New Zealand Heavyweight Championship has an existing consensus that it is not notable due to a complete lack of independent third party sources to prove notability. The article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Thank you. ' !! Just a Punk !! ' 23:12, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I did not make an error. The speedy deletion tag has been removed. Please check the previous deleted version. The new version is different and therefore, the repost deletion tag should not be used in this case. Bejinhan   talks   04:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It is NOT different. It is substantially the same and was ruled not notable via an AfD. It doesn't have to be exactly the same to fall under a speedy deletion.  !! Just a Punk !!  06:11, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I did not say that it has to be exactly the same. Prove that it is substantially different. You wouldn't know whether it is different or not seeing that you can't view the deleted version. Bejinhan   talks   06:16, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I remember the deleted version because I nominated it previously and VERY recently. It has the same issues of notability and this has not been addressed. Anyway - to avoid an argument, I've re-nominated it for deletion. I challenge you and the other article supporters to verify it's notability when you didn't previously.  !! Just a Punk !!  06:24, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I've checked with an admin and have my evidence. See you at the AfD. Bejinhan   talks   06:29, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Reinstate my ACC account.
Hi, can you reinstate my account? I was inactive for a bit and now I'm back and ready to begin the program again. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daven200520 (talk • contribs)
 * Replied on user's talkpage. Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 09:36, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

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Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Sally_Fitzgibbons
Please check back on this one, because you left it as 'reviewing' a few days ago. Thanks,  Chzz  ► 20:47, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Replied in IRC. Bejinhan   talks   05:45, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Cardiff School of Art & Design
Hello! Your submission of Cardiff School of Art & Design at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Espresso Addict (talk) 23:39, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK
Of course, you can submit a WP:DYK from the Battle of Flores. I'm sure you'll do better than me. ElBufon (talk) 14:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

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WP:FEED
Thanks for helping out at WP:FEED as more is always needed. Just letting you know, you should try to notify users with feedbackreply, feedbackreply-sm, or feedbackreply-alt when you give them feedback as many don't know how to get back or that they should read and respond to feedback. Additionally, if the article is a draft, you might offer to move it to mainspace for non-confirmed users and remove the "new unreviewed article" tag from ones already in the mainspace. :) ~  Qwerp  Qwertus  Talk  ツ  02:31, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey there, you're welcome. :) Thanks for letting me know. I will be doing more reviewing once my Wikibreak is over. Bejinhan   talks   05:52, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Cardiff School of Art & Design
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 18:03, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi
I'm wondering if you could copy-edit Manufacturing in Hong Kong. As you are the only contributor in the last section of WP:PRV who speaks Chinese (or claims to speak Chinese in the userboxen), I think I've come to the right person for help. I know my prose needs a bit of improvement before it will ever pass GAN. BTW this is not a rush and I've read the message on top, so feel free to (checking the thesaurus for another word that means procrastinate but in a more positive light) take your time. Thanks a million.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 04:20, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll do it after my Wikibreak. I can speak Chinese but it's not very good.... let's say that it suffice for a broken conversation. ;) I might copy the whole article into a sandbox and then merge it after I've completed or I'll just do it on the article itself. You're welcome. Bejinhan   talks   13:55, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

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Request for copy-editing
Hello, I wonder if you would mind taking a look at this page, PlayStation, and copy-edit it? Your help would be greatly appreciated, thanks. Kiasu Kiasi Man 16:17, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, sure. I've done a little bit with the lead. By when does it have to be ready? I've promised Kayau that I will work on Manufacturing in Hong Kong after my Wikibreak. I can do yours simultaneously(it will be slow) or after I finish the HK article. Bejinhan   talks   05:56, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't worry there's no rush currently, so you can do it after your current article. Also thanks for the help. Kiasu Kiasi Man 15:12, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Battle of Flores (1591)
Hello! Your submission of Battle of Flores (1591) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 16:34, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Battle of Pinos
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DYK for Battle of Flores (1591)
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Wikipedia:Pending changes/Vote comment
As you commented in the pending closure discussion I am notifying you that the Pending changes/Vote comment is now open and will be for two weeks, discussion as required can continue on the talkpage. Thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 23:53, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

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Review
Thanks for the speedy review on the article. Due to this being my first original article I wanted to go through the AfC processes to make sure I was doing everything right - I'll make sure to go ahead and make new articles by default mostly in the future. Thanks again. atallcostsky  talk   03:42, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. The general rule of thumb is reliable sources and notability. Bejinhan   talks   03:46, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Jerry Nelson (astronomer)
 — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 06:03, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2010 August newsletter
We have our final eight! The best of luck to those who remain. A bumper newsletter this week as we start our home straight.


 * Pool A's winner was . Awarded the top score overall this round, Sturmvogel_66 writes primarily on military history, favouring Naval warfare.
 * Pool B's winner was . Awarded the top score for featured articles this round, Casliber writes primarily on natural sciences, especially botany and ornithology.
 * Pool A's close second was . Awarded the top score for featured pictures this round, Sasata writes primarily on natural sciences, favouring mycology.
 * Pool B's close second was . Awarded the top score for good articles and topics this round, ThinkBlue primarily writes content related to television and film, including 30 Rock.
 * The first wildcard was . Awarded the top score for did you knows and valued pictures this round, TonyTheTiger writes on a number of topics, including baseball, American football and Chicago.
 * The second wildcard was . Someone who has helped the Cup behind the scenes all year, White Shadows said "I'm still in shock that I made it this far" and writes primarily on Naval warfare, especially U-boats.
 * The third wildcard was . Awarded the top score for featured lists and topics this round, Staxringold primarily writes on sport and television, including baseball and 30 Rock.
 * The fourth wildcard was . Entering the final eight only on the final day of the round, William S. Saturn writes on a number of topics, mostly related to Texas.

We say goodbye to the six who fell at the final hurdle. only just missed out on a place in the final eight. was not far behind. was awarded top points for in the news this round. contributed a variety of did you know articles. said "I'm surprised to have survived so far into the competition", but was extactic to see Finland in the semi-finals. did not score this round, but has scored highly in previous rounds. We also say goodbye to, who withdrew earlier this month after spending six weeks overseas. Anyone interested in this round's results can see them here and here. Thank you to for these.

Signups for next year's competition are now open. Planning is ongoing, with a key discussion about judges for next year open. Discussion about how next year's scoring will work is ongoing, and thoughts are more than welcome at Wikipedia talk:WikiCup/Scoring. Also, TonyTheTiger is compiling some information and statistics on the finalists here- the final eight are encouraged to add themselves to the list.

Our final eight will play it out for two months, after which we will know 2010's WikiCup winner, and a variety of prizes will be awarded. As ever, anything you worry may not receive the necessary attention before the end of the round (such as outstanding GA or FA nominations) is welcome at WikiCup/Reviews, and please remember to continue offering reviews yourself where possible. As always, the judges are available to contact via email, IRC or their talk pages, and general discussion about the Cup is welcome on the WikiCup talk page. If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn, Fox and The ed17 23:06, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

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