User talk:Belbury

My edit
@Belbury

Why did you undo my edits? Was there an issue? 2A0A:EF40:E81:7701:1061:3825:F5D5:2BE6 (talk) 10:53, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Luxembourg rebellions
User LuxembourgLover has removed the AI-flag from the article Luxembourg rebellions. I do not know enough about AI to make any useful comments about that. But I know the way LuxembourgLover messed up texts and misinterpreted sources to be extremely cautious. Can you check if the removal of the flag is correct? The Banner talk 22:29, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The same happened here: History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The Banner  talk 22:42, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hey, I just wanted to let both of you know that I used AI to assist with spelling and grammar when working on those articles. I first created a rough draft and then used ChatGPT with sources to help me fix the grammar and spelling. The AI took my draft and combined the sources I provided, in the case of the Luxembourg article, some newspaper articles, and created the updated information that I then added to Wikipedia. LuxembourgLover (talk) 23:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Including the incorrect source??? The Banner  talk 00:32, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * What source was incorrect? LuxembourgLover (talk) 18:34, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The correction here. The Banner  talk 19:34, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * “The political future of Luxembourg” from the Times covers the singing of Marseillaise and the members of the committee. LuxembourgLover (talk) 19:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The thing to check is whether the AI-assisted text introduced any false information, and I don't know enough about the subjects to judge that. But it would be better for a second editor to review and remove these templates, rather than LuxembourgLover reviewing and approving their own flagged work - especially if you have concerns that either the editor or AI has misinterpreted some of the sources. Belbury (talk) 08:37, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Artificial intelligence art
Not only did you remove the link but you removed the edit. You have a Wiki page about AI art that doesn't have a single mention of AI art generators, which is needed to create AI art. It's like having a page about video games and not ever mentioning the consoles needed to play them. I added the link because there isn't a Wiki page for the term AI art generators. Escapecapsule (talk) 15:33, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * No strong view on the meaning behind it, I was reverting the addition of a blog link around a particular keyphrase, and a sentence which didn't flow into the next one. Feel free to expand the section while drawing from reliable sources. --Belbury (talk) 16:02, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Colin The Caterpillar
Dear Sir/Madam, I understand your reasoning for removing my addition, however, the gentleman I refer to is my grandfather and I have documentation to prove that he named and created Colin the Caterpillar. He held many senior positions within the food manufacturing industry, including one where he presided over the creation and the naming of Colin the Caterpillar cake in order to gain a contract with M&S for their cake production. I would be grateful for some advice on how to ensure this remains as this is very important to me that my grandfather is recognised for his part in Colin the Caterpillar.

Kind regards,

Nicholas Washington-Hadley Nickwashingtonhadley (talk) 22:51, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Tone on Nick Simmons (politician)
I restored your recent maintenance tag (tone) on Nick Simmons (politician). It had been removed without explanation or any sign of addressing the issue. When I read the article, though, I couldn't quite see what the concern was. A couple words like "tapped" and "stint", I saw as maybe somewhat informal. If you let me know more specifically what you thought needed improvement, I can take a crack at editing it. Cheers. signed, Willondon (talk) 16:30, 4 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks, it was mostly vibes-based from a skim of the text, which just felt a bit too much like campaign literature. Going back with a pen I'd also underline "born and raised" and the repeated use of his first name "Nick". Belbury (talk) 16:39, 4 June 2024 (UTC)


 * OK. It did seem a little campaigny to me, but I didn't see any outright hyperbole. I'll make some edits later on today and remove the tag. I won't object if you still think there are concerns and want to put the tag back.  signed, Willondon (talk)  17:16, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I guess lines like Nick worked to implement policies including the investment of hundreds of millions of dollars into growing the state’s economy, improving Connecticut’s infrastructure and schools, training thousands of workers to fill open jobs, and transitioning to a clean energy future feel a little weaselly for being ongoing work on aspirations (is Connecticut in a clean energy future yet?) rather than a list of measured achievements. And these should really be coming from somewhere better than a press release from his boss. In fact, most of those claims aren't even in the source, which I've now flagged up.
 * I'll keep the article on my watchlist and take another look at it after you've edited, at some point. Belbury (talk) 17:30, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm done with it now. Thanks.  signed, Willondon (talk)  20:59, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Decentraland stats
Hello Mr. Belbury I've made some corrections with the market reviews because I'm Doing digital and physical network marketing and I've claimed this data from internet on the basis of my research and I've provided some data sources also. If you are unable to understand my sources pls can you contact me or leave me your contact no. or social media handle. Like : Instagram, Twitter, Discord, Whatsapp. Or if you don't want to contact pls recorrect my data I've Provided. Pls Sir, I know that wrong information can destroy a men. But trust me it is not the wrong data sir. Okk Sir. Pls let it done Sagarswamimfev (talk) 08:21, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Take a look at WP:PRIMARY, you should be using secondary sources here, in the way that the rest of the article is. --Belbury (talk) 08:34, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Of Mice and Men -
In popular culture== ==

Hey @Belbury, well let's start compiling all of the times the book was mentioned in popular culture, instead of just deleting the section the moment someone tries to begin one. Ridiculopathy (talk) 13:15, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Such a list of all the times the book was mentioned was split out to Of Mice and Men in popular culture a long time ago, and that page was deleted in 2022. You could try a Deletion review if you think there's a reason to overturn the discussion at Articles for deletion/Of Mice and Men in popular culture (2nd nomination). Belbury (talk) 13:34, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh, I didn't know that. I'm not that invested in the idea, I just thought it would be nice. Obviously if there are thousands of references it's untenable. Thanks for the info. Ridiculopathy (talk) 13:50, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

SAT
Thank you for the correction. I did not realize I pressed the wrong button. Cheers! Nerd271 (talk) 16:12, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Why you removed my edits
Today on the 7th of June 2024, you removed my edit to the union correctional institution, I would like to know why. 92.207.184.242 (talk) 08:32, 7 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I personally understand the mugshot edit, Maybe a little too much info but, for the prison, I'm a little confused 92.207.184.242 (talk) 08:33, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * WP:LISTPEOPLE, the person is not the subject of a Wikipedia article. Belbury (talk) 08:34, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * And? Info on people should put down there. Plus on the prison there were about 10 inmates in the notable section with no page, Mike Bargo was already on that page, so I just wanted to re add him. DOn't see the big deal. 92.207.184.242 (talk) 08:36, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It looks to me that every other person in the list is the subject of a full article, either a biography or an article about their crime. Belbury (talk) 08:39, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * God almighty, you can't just let it go can you? Who cares you can't read about them on one of the most unreliable sources! Just google it!
 * I'm sorry that I'm angry but this is the 6th time something so damn stiupid has been removed from wikipedia. 92.207.184.242 (talk) 08:47, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * But nonethrless I will leave it now. 92.207.184.242 (talk) 08:48, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Nirmal Purja
Hello! Purja replied to allegations on Instagram. The sources removed by you contain screen shots from his Instagram. What other sources would you suggest? I think Ohthatpaul writes an unneutral statement about Purja. Please help me to write an acceptable part about Purja's response to allegations. Regards Szelma W (talk) 10:36, 9 June 2024 (UTC)


 * It needs a reliable secondary source covering it, and I'm not sure the cited climbing blogs count as that.
 * Even if this is a genuine screenshot and the post can be verified on Instagram (which it looks like it can't, was it a 24-hour story post that expired?), we couldn't quote it under WP:SOCIALMEDIA since Purja makes claims about third parties. Belbury (talk) 10:43, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello! Is Outside a reliable source? Here is the link to the Outside article with most of the Purja's Instagram statement at the end of the article: https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/everest/climbers-weigh-in-on-nims-purja-following-sexual-abuse-allegations/ Regards Szelma W (talk) 18:06, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Please ignore my reply above. Regards Szelma W (talk) 18:34, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Misinformation Edits
I suspect you are from Reddit and have an issue with the company, hence the edits of reinstating fake news. This article was personally rebuked by the very person that the article is about. Anyway, hopefully people can at least see the edit history and realize it is untrue. 2607:FEA8:BAD7:4700:C52B:5FAD:695B:8D90 (talk) 11:05, 12 June 2024 (UTC)


 * IP, is it even important where a company is based? Why do you want to hide it's based in Moscow so bad?  Liliana UwU  (talk / contributions) 11:12, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Edit warring reports
Hi Belbury. In the future, please report edit warring to WP:ANEW rather than WP:AIV. AIV is only for obvious vandalism and obvious spam. Removal of maintenance templates by an editor of the article is clearly a disagreement over the template's inclusion rather than vandalism as the term is used on Wikipedia. Thanks. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 19:20, 13 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Sure, will do. Belbury (talk) 07:08, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Recent edit reverted
Hi,

You recently reverted my edit on Impossible color, saying that the animation didn't work for you digitally. However, I've tested the animation myself, and saw bright concentric rings of color after looking at the center for some time at approximately 150 rpm. I think this might be related to the differences between our specific visual systems; could you please revert the edit? anna328p // talk 15:26, 17 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Anna328p Interesting! I can slightly sense some colours if I stare at the centre, but I can't tell if that's an artefact of my monitor display which is, of course, using red, green and blue to show me the white pixels. Perhaps it depends on the setup and display speed. The wheel is very much "flashing" rather than rotating, on my screen, with the segments effectively just alternating black/white.
 * I do think the statement that the effect works digitally at all needs a secondary source, rather than an editor's own codepen page. Is there any research on this? Belbury (talk) 15:40, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I guess I didn't really consider that because I have a high refresh rate screen... anna328p // talk 23:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Question
Greetings and salutations. I have a question about this edit. Along what lines? Warm regards, Kire1975 (talk) 13:13, 25 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Kire1975: The relevant section of the cited source says:
 * To me that's more about the way that the subject is often talked about, in the writer's view, rather than a single cliched phrase that might be deployed in isolation to shut down an argument. I'd agree that "it's complicated" could be used as a thought-terminating cliche, but this doesn't seem a strong enough source to make that statement. Belbury (talk) 13:21, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * To me that's more about the way that the subject is often talked about, in the writer's view, rather than a single cliched phrase that might be deployed in isolation to shut down an argument. I'd agree that "it's complicated" could be used as a thought-terminating cliche, but this doesn't seem a strong enough source to make that statement. Belbury (talk) 13:21, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Ghosts actors
Personally I think British is less controversial in terms of nationality, it's just that I feel the change was motivated by something other than "There's no such thing as an English passport"... Rankersbo (talk) 09:58, 28 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Rankersbo: Yes, the IP gave their rationale here as The english people are an ethnic group native to england, she is black, and her parents are nigerian. So obviously not english
 * Turns out there's a whole essay on this at Nationality of people from the United Kingdom for biographies where it's contested or significant, but in these cases I don't think it is. Belbury (talk) 10:28, 28 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Yeah that comment did spell it out. Rankersbo (talk) 10:59, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Liza Tarbuck education
Hi there - I understand the need for references for Wikipedia pages for people very much in the public domain. However, I was at school with Liza, so that's all I have as a reference. I wasn't aware that this is the sort of information that requires a reference, and I am not sure one could be provided, but do let me know what I might be able to do to find one. Thanks. Stwheel1 (talk) 11:16, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


 * @Stwheel1 Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from on this! I'm afraid Wikipedia can't use that kind of personal knowledge in its articles, even when it's true - everything written here is expected to rest on a bedrock of Verifiability. If Tarbuck has never mentioned the school in any books or interviews, Wikipedia can't mention it either. Belbury (talk) 11:30, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Completely understand. OK - I'll search for such a reference, and leave things as they are unless I find one. Stwheel1 (talk) 12:11, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Listenbourg
Hi ! I am French and I have participated in the lore of pasy since its creation, in 2 years the information has been reviewed and according to all the existing discord servers, the population is 78 million people, can I modify this? (As well as the president of the country who is no longer a Gaspardo who resigned more than a year ago.) Lemurien321 (talk) 10:38, 5 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Probably not per WP:SELFSOURCE. The Wikipedia article is really a record of the Listenbourg meme at its height rather than a mirror of whatever's happening on the fan sites - if five years from now the Discord has been dwindled to a handful of users, is Wikipedia going to keep recording their latest statements about the country?
 * The article already written in the past tense as The population was said to be 59 million and that Gaspardo was proclaimed president of Listenbourg, so I think it works. Belbury (talk) 10:51, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Je comprends où tu veux en venir mais ces modifications anécdotiques ont été réalisés à peine quelques mois apres le sébut du lore, nous sommes de plus en plus dans ce rp arrivant à 334 sur un serveur discord (on en compte une dizaine en tout) je comprends ton point de vue mais nous sommes 334 et cette modification est ancienne.
 * De plus, les pages wikipédia se doivent d'etre exact et ne pas modifier cela serait contraire au règlement de wikipédia. Lemurien321 (talk) 10:57, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest raising this on Talk:Listenbourg and in English, but I think it's going to be hard to argue that post-meme-peak activity on fan forums belongs in the article when no WP:SECONDARY source is interested in documenting it. Belbury (talk) 11:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Can we really say that this is post-meme activity? The initiators of this project are still with us. The French press article invented this number of inhabitants which is contrary to the wishes of the creator and the fans. Lemurien321 (talk) 11:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * If there hasn't been any press coverage of it since 2022 there's not a lot new that we can say about it now. I assume the French press took the figure from somewhere on social media at the time. Belbury (talk) 11:12, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Is this a reason not to modify the article? we don't talk about thousands of Wikipedia pages every day, yet when they are incorrect we correct them Lemurien321 (talk) 11:51, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest posting to Talk:Listenbourg saying specifically what you think should be included or changed, to get some broader feedback on this. Belbury (talk) 15:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * And also, Gaspardo himself resigned and I say to myself that it would be fun to update the Wikipedia page given that it is in itself a page about a subjective and non-existent thing :) thank you very much for reading! Lemurien321 (talk) 11:02, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Your template message
U made a message on my homepage, and I think you made a mistake. I have edited Wikipedia since yesterday and have never edited here before. I actually started edited what I did from the UK election page coz I thought it was out of date. Sorry if I caused problems.

Warm wishes 2A0A:EF40:E4A:E101:6DC6:9BD0:863B:BB00 (talk) 11:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)


 * im wondering if you can revert my edits or I can? 2A0A:EF40:E4A:E101:6DC6:9BD0:863B:BB00 (talk) 12:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * One second, let me open an SPI for you. Belbury (talk) 12:31, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'm not sure what that means though 2A0A:EF40:E4A:E101:6DC6:9BD0:863B:BB00 (talk) 12:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Care drain - Technical template
Hello! I have recently finished polishing the Care drain article and I am wondering if it has resolved the issue(s) with technical language you found? Thank you! Kindly, Pinecone23 (talk) 17:28, 8 July 2024 (UTC)


 * @Pinecone23 Great job, that's much clearer! I'll remove the template myself. Belbury (talk) 17:31, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! :-) Pinecone23 (talk) 17:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Block evasion
Who is the original blocked account you reverted at Transport in the United Kingdom? I hate sockpuppetry! 10mmsocket (talk) 16:13, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * @10mmsocket It's Sockpuppet investigations/Lam312321321. Belbury (talk) 16:20, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I thought it was familiar. Keep up the good work! 10mmsocket (talk) 16:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)