User talk:Bellerophon/Archive 9

LeRoy and Pictet
I have change a lot of points in the article and added the reference for the literature too. Please chek and release. Thank you in advance. 77.5.117.17 (talk) 23:48, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

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Page updated,awaiting approval
Hi,

Based on your feed back I have updated the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Tejinder_Singh. Kindly help with your approval.

Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aarti1981 (talk • contribs) 14:11, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * It may be possible to make a short blp-stub out of this, but at the moment it's too spammy. See: WP:ARTSPAM. Pol430   talk to me  17:16, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Talib Haider
Hello Pol,

For this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Talib_Haider#cite_note-4

I have added this reference for your perusal.

http://geovision.geo.tv/2012/12/quick-bits-with-charismatic-and-go-getter-talib-haider/

Thanks. (Tintin000 (talk) 13:27, 1 December 2012 (UTC))


 * ✅. Article created. Pol430   talk to me  17:51, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Welcome Home!
Hi! I see you came back. In the meantime I had to disconnect the internet service at my home due to $problems so that's why I haven't been online or doing anything on Wiki for a while. But I am working again at a place where I can access the net so I should be able to stay in touch pretty frequently. I would like to finish the course. "Selene Scott (talk) 16:05, 4 December 2012 (UTC)"
 * Hi Selene, I have now had some time to set up your final exam. It takes the form of practical exercises on Wikipedia. You can find it at User:Pol430/Adoption/Selene Scott. Good luck! Pol430   talk to me  14:22, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

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 * ✅ Pol430   talk to me  14:29, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Need Help
Hi

I have had my articles rejected because it sounded like a promotion. It was for the company I work for and it is a history of the company and the importance of data or email validation. Our competitor has a very promotional article and their is still up. Can you please look mine over and make some suggestions? My competitor is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strikeiron.

Thank you,

Russ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 511ecso (talk • contribs) 16:05, 5 December 2012 (UTC)


 * ❌ editor blocked. Pol430   talk to me  14:31, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Crime Opporunity prevention
I didn't make make any changes to the page. I might have marked as patrolled, but not as reviewed. I don't see my name in the pages edit history or in my contrubitions. –BuickCenturyDriver 19:34, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The page curation toolbar showed that you marked it as reviewed, which doesn't appear in the articles edit history or your contributions. I've cleaned it up now. Pol430   talk to me   19:37, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Pitcairn's island
It was my mistake. I thought it was spelled differently and then I looked it up and when I came back to fix it, it was already fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uyee (talk • contribs) 13:52, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I see, no harm done then. Welcome to Wikipedia. Pol430   talk to me  17:47, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for fixing the Creaney article and making it copyright compliant. I wonder when you have the chance if you could take a look at the following articles:


 * Maude Storey
 * Pictogram voting delete.svg Copyright concerns remain. See:
 * Ethel Wormald
 * Pictogram voting support.svg No copyright concern.
 * Neil Trevor Kaplan
 * Pictogram voting support.svg No copyright concern.
 * Jennifer Hilary
 * Pictogram voting delete.svg Copyright concerns remain. See:  and
 * Selma Dritz
 * Pictogram voting support.svg No copyright concern.
 * Celia Deutsch
 * Pictogram voting support.svg No copyright concern.

I have tried my best but I am not sure if I have succeeded in making them 100% copyright compliant. Thanks. Quis separabit? 20:02, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, no problem, but I'm a bit busy at the moment. When I've got some time, I'll gladly cast an eye over them. Pol430   talk to me  20:09, 9 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Forgot to mention, if you do get the chance to review and/or adjust as needed the above six articles (I added one), four of which are British, if that helps, could you then leave the necessary notations as to compliance, blanking, etc. at my CCI. They are #31, #33, #34, #35, #37 and #38. Thanks. Quis separabit?  17:20, 10 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Funnily enough, I was just looking into this when you messaged me. I have checked the articles and highlighted above the two that still need some work. I have linked to the duplication reports, that should give you the info needed to make the required changes. Best. Pol430   talk to me  17:38, 10 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot. I am going to fix Jennifer Hilary, but according to this, Maude Storey is OK, unless I am misreading something. Yours, Quis separabit?  19:54, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You need to click on 'show details' in the green section of that report. That will reveal the comparison -- article on the left and source on the right. Anything highlighted red in the article section is duplicated in the source. As you can see, there is some substantial duplication. 44% match is too high. Generally, the figure should be no more than 5% for most articles. I realise the tool says 'no violation', but it's wrong. Pol430   talk to me  20:39, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I redid the Jennifer Hilary article (see the diff here). Hopefully it is OK now. Thanks again. Quis separabit?  20:00, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm actually surprised you cleared Wormald, as I just took a look at it and found some close paraphrasing issues. Compare "she became a member of liverpool regional hospital board and fought to establish a day centre for mentally ill patients discharged from local hospitals" (wiki) to "she became a member of liverpool regional hospital board and was a driving force behind the opening of a day centre for mentally ill patients who had been released from hospitals" (source) as well as "gave older or mature students the opportunity to train as teachers without having to spend time in residential colleges" (wiki) vs. "gave mature students opportunities to be trained as teachers without having to spend time in residential colleges". They aren't terribly bad and were easy to clean, but that's the kind of stuff that has to be caught. As long as things are being cleaned though that's what matters. Wizardman  23:04, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the message Wizardman. Sorry about that, I've rechecked and found all the parts you mention. I think I was relying too much on the (newly discovered by me) CV detector by earwig, which showed only this. I will ensure that in future I don't rely on any single tool too much. I will now recheck my other work. Pol430  talk to me  23:15, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I've rechecked the others and made a couple of minor edits to Selma Dritz. Hopefully I haven't missed anything else. Pol430   talk to me  23:32, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. I like the duplication detector better than the other one since it shows more clearly what phrases are an issue. Wizardman  02:14, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Jacobrubinovitz
Thank You for creating the page "User:Jacobrubinovitz", with the edit summary: Preferred location for AfC submissions. However I would like to submit the page for review, and am not sure what to do. I am aware that is an autobiography of a living person, and that may create a problem, but I would like to submit the page, regardless. Any help you can give me will be very apprieciated. Jacobrubinovitz 00:08, 13 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacobrubinovitz (talk • contribs)
 * I didn't create any pages. I moved the draft of the article you made from your user-page to a different page in, what we call, the AfC namespace. I did this because you had already, correctly, submitted the page for review. As you can see the page Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Jacobrubinovitz now has a big yellow template at the top of it, this means that it is submitted for review. It will be reviewed in due course, you don't need to do anything. You can continue to work on the page if you like. Pol430   talk to me  19:41, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Pee Dee, Anson County, North Carolina
Pol0430; My article was rejected by you for

Thank you for your submission, but '''the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at Pee Dee instead. '''

But, the Pee Dee referred to in your response is in the State of South Carolina. It has nothing to do with the Community of Pee Dee found in the State of North Carlina.

I could see how you may have referred me to

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pee_Dee,_North_Carolina

But again, while this little Community is in North Carolina; it's 30 Miles from the little Community known as Pee Dee in Anson County, North Carolina. So that is why I labeled my article, Pee Dee, Anson County, North Carolina to differentiate it from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pee_Dee,_North_Carolina'

CarolinaHistory (talk) 14:48, 15 December 2012 (UTC) Charles L. Purvis, aka CarolinaHistory


 * Hi, sorry about that. I had no idea there could be so many places called Pee Dee. There will probably be a need to disambiguate the various Pee Dees at some point, it's all a bit of a mess at the moment. I have accepted the article. Pol430   talk to me  15:09, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
Yeah, you aren't hounding me, the other editors can and do whenever I do anything they dislike. See my talk page for details on the matter. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 16:04, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

National Rifle Association article neutrality
Hi Pol430, I'm writing to followup on my suggestion that the National Rifle Association (USA) article could be revised to better show a neutral viewpoint. The introductory content, in particular, reflects the viewpoint of the NRA.

For example, the statement that the NRA "advocates for the protection of the Second Amendment" is not a neutral statement. The Second Amendment is not under attack and in need of protection(the US Supreme Court ruling in 2008 establishes the individual right to gun ownership). However this "statement of fact" is what the NRA uses to gain most of its political influence. It mobilizes its members by persuading them that their rights are going to be taken away. A more neutral statement would say "the NRA advocates for the expansion of private access to guns, under the Second Amendment".

In addition, the sentence that describes the NRA as the "oldest continuously operating civil rights organization" is an NRA talking point and should be deleted or rewritten to say "the NRA claims to be..., while this claim is disputed." See this link for discussion and justification for why the NRA is not the oldest: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_oldest_civil_rights_organization_in_the_US

Karstenbarde (talk) 19:18, 16 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Two experienced editors have joined in the discussion at Talk:National Rifle Association. You need to thrash out a solution with them there, as the edits you are asking me to make are now decidedly out of process. Pol430   talk to me  18:26, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Review feedback: Royalton Kisch article
Thank you very much indeed for saying you'll sort out my references to The Times (of London!) newspaper in the above article in Wiki style. Incredibly kind of you. What happens now - does the article get resubmitted or now automatically passed? Apologies, but I'm a novice here....and I cannot find a version of the article with your edits included (at least, on The Times reference...). Once I find it I'll try to do better and re-edit with line-by-line referencing

Thanks again, very much

Wikischpedia (talk) 22:38, 16 December 2012 (UTC)Martin/WikischpediaWikischpedia (talk) 22:38, 16 December 2012 (UTC)


 * The submission is located at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Royalton Kisch, that's the one I edited, you can see my edits in the page history. For the time being I have only fixed up the footnotes. I do not have access to the subject's obituary in The Times and so I am unable to cite that source against the supporting text -- the same problem applies to the other sources. Currently, the submission is not pending review. When you would like to resubmit it there is a link to click on in the big pink template at the top of the page. Once you click that link you will be taken to a pre-loaded edit screen, all you have to do is click save page and the submission will be resubmitted for review. For the present, I would advise you to re-edit the submission and provide some inline references, see Referencing for beginners for help. Pol430   talk to me  18:33, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Just to thank you again for your help with the Royalton Kisch article, and the instructions on re-submitting it. I'll try to get around to this in the next few days

Wikischpedia (talk) 22:17, 17 December 2012 (UTC)Martin/WikischpediaWikischpedia (talk) 22:17, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Response to message
"Hi, while your efforts to improve this article are very welcome you should be aware that Wikipedia requires that all articles are written from a neutral point of view, contain facts that are verifiable and avoid puffery."

Hi, thanks for the note. Anything in particular cause concern? Andylee3000 (talk) 15:42, 21 December 2012 (UTC)Andy


 * Hi again! Mostly, a general feeling I get that this article is headed down a path that many corporate articles fall victim to. Namely, that they become generally promotional in nature, contain pseudo-marketing speak and press pieces and serve to be more an extension of the company's web presence, than anything genuinely encyclopedic. The line: "Advertising Age (commonly referred to as Ad Age) published a story recognizing eMaketer as "the authority" in online business." I find problematic because it's a singular opinion from a source that reads like a paid placement rather than an objective review or legitimate piece of journalism -- it is therefore not in-keeping with this community's policy on neutral point of view. Also, the "Coverage" section is largely superfluous; it is not the business of an encyclopedia to publish indiscriminate lists of products and services. As an aside, I would loose the timeline format of the "History" section and rewrite it in continuous prose. Pol430   talk to me  16:47, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Sakyadhita
Hello,

I received a message today about my article, but no specific information: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lauriebak/sandbox&oldid=527607404

"December 2012

Hello Lauriebak, and welcome to Wikipedia. While we appreciate your contributing to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here."

I found your name and this talk page at the top of my Sandbox 'History'... the article itself seems to have been deleted. I don't understand and would like to know how to get this page accepted. I was told (by DGG) that it was an important enough organization to include, was given some helpful specific information and I corrected that information. I referenced the paragraph about history (see below) although these references are now not there because this is an older version.

"In the sixth century BCE, the Buddha affirmed that women and men had equal potential to achieve spiritual liberation. This affirmation represented a significant departure from then prevailing views defining women primarily in terms of their reproductive function and capacity for productive labor. The bhikkhuni sangha founded by Mahapajapati, the Buddha’s aunt and foster mother, may have been the first monastic order for nuns in history. Since its inception, Buddhism has acknowledged the equal spiritual potential of women and men. Despite this early egalitarian philosophy, unequal social structures still persist in most contemporary Buddhist cultures. Today, the bhikkhuni sangha survives in only three traditions: Chinese, Korean and Vietnamese. Buddhist institutional structures remain male dominated."

Are you concerned about the 'objectives" section, which comes off of the Sakyadhita website?

I'm trying hard to get this accepted, but with several reviewers and not enough information about corrections, it's a tough slough!

thanks and merry christmas, lauriebakLauriebak (talk) 17:32, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello, I moved your article submission into AfC space so that it could be more easily reviewed. The reviewer who carried out the review after I had done this determined that the submission was a copyright violation and tagged it for deletion. Wikipedia has a strict policy about respecting copyright. If the submission included text copied from somewhere else on the Internet (or any other copyrighted source) then it violates Wikipedia's copyright policy (with few exceptions) and may be summarily deleted by an administrator -- as happened in this case. Strictly speaking your sandbox should have been deleted as well, as this is also a copyright violation -- but the administrator neglected to do this. My advice to you, would be to use the page history of your sandbox to build a new version of the article. You must ensure you do not copy and paste text from another source, or even closely paraphrase it, or the page may get deleted again. Hope this helps Pol430   talk to me  18:23, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello again, Pol,

I've re-submitted the page you had deleted because of copyright infringement. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lauriebak/sandbox

It occurred to me last night that you might have been referring to the German language version of the page http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakyadhita part (1st paragraph) of which I used as reference. The rest of the article came from a past president of Sakyadhita and is strictly well established information about dates of meetings and conferences.

Much of Wikipedia is still a mystery to me. I'm at a loss to understand why it's so difficult to get this published, except to say that having more than one reviewer is confusing. So far, I've been accused of publishing "chick garbage" on the chat room; encouraged and helped by DCG when first I submitted; and then summarily deleted with no specific explanation.

I'm willing to revise and am not going to give up unless I get a clear answer as to why this article would appear in the German Wiki, but not in the English Wiki.

Hope you're having a merry holiday and will answer when you can.

thanks much, Lauriebak (talk) 22:14, 24 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lauriebak (talk • contribs)


 * As I have already said: I did not have the page deleted, nor did I carry out the review of it. In fact, I haven't even read the submission. I mearly moved your submission from one page title to another, for various technical reasons too boring to explain to you here. It was another editor who reviewed the submission and it was they who flagged it as a copyright violation (the same person that left a message on your talk page telling you it had been declined). This was then reviewed by an administrator, who agreed it was a copyright violation and deleted it. If you require further clarification on the nature of the violation, I suggest you contact the administrator who deleted it: user.


 * In answer to your question about the article appearing in the German Wikipedia, English Wikipedia has entirely different inclusion policies to German Wikipedia; and so, simply because an article exists on German Wikipedia does not automatically give it the right to exist on English Wikipedia. I'm not passing judgement on the submission, because I still haven't read it, I'm simply answering your question. Pol430   talk to me  22:23, 25 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Update: ✅ Pol430   talk to me  16:06, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Royalton Kisch
Dear Pol430 After a week's delay I have re-edited the article on Royalton Kisch. I think it's now properly footnoted BUT, I seem to have managed to delete the bar with the links at the top of the page which allow me to resubmit it! Very sorry - otherwise it's ready to resubmit. Could you very kindly either restore the codes or somehow press 'resubmit' for me?? Thanks again Wikischpedia (talk) 22:15, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Wikischpedia/MartinWikischpedia (talk) 22:15, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅. The article looks good to go. I've accepted it and it is now live in Wikipedia. I've added a maintenance tag to the article, because the prose could do with a bit of copy editing to make the tone more neutral. Please feel free to read up on our neutral point of view policy and make the required changes. Pol430   talk to me  15:12, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you again and I'll try to improve as you suggest. Happy new year Wikischpedia (talk) 17:03, 28 December 2012 (UTC)WikischpediaWikischpedia (talk) 17:03, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

ACC tool registration
This edit confirms I have requested ACC tool access. I am identified to the WMF, see. Pol430  talk to me  17:25, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Sakyadhita International Association of Buddhist Women
Hello,

I received an email and went to the changes to find this:

Your submission at Articles for Creation

AFC-Logo.svg Sakyadhita International Association of Buddhist Women, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created. The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article. You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. Note that because you are a logged-in user, you can create articles yourself, and don't have to post a request. However, you are more than welcome to continue submitting work to Articles for Creation. If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the help desk. If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider leaving us some feedback.

Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia! Pol430 talk to me 16:09, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

1) I still don't find it on the Wiki English site. 2) When I had footnotes (in a section about feminism in Buddhist history), the article was deleted, so I got rid of that section (with inline citations). I don't know what kind of inline citations are appropriate here, since the information is simply a description of the organization. 3) There is an article of the same name on the German Wiki site Why not the English? 4) You refer to 'self-published sources' the only one of which might apply is the video  Other than that, these are published outside the auspices of Sakyadhita.

Still hoping we can get this up correctly by January 5 conference in India.

thanks for your help, Lauriebak — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lauriebak (talk • contribs) 17:48, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi again

Must add that while I can find the article and it looks like it's up on the site, it does not show up on the Wiki mainpage search. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=Sakyadhita&title=Special%3ASearch lauriebakLauriebak (talk) 17:52, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi,


 * 1) The page may not show up in the Wikipedia search function yet or via Google search because I have only just created it and the servers can take 24hrs to cache the page, the same is true of Google. So, give it 24hrs and you will be able to search for it and get a result, both on Wikipedia and via Google (probably). The page is live in Wikipedia and can be found at Sakyadhita International Association of Buddhist Women. I have also created the page Sakyadhita as a redirect to the former, so both names will work.
 * 2) The previous page was not deleted because it had inline citations (inline citations are a good thing!), it was deleted (probably) because it contained text that had been copy and pasted from somewhere on the internet. As I have already explained to you in the replies above, I was not involved in the deletion of the former page. In answer to the second point, Wikipedia finds inline citations to any reliable source acceptable (follow the blue link for the policy on reliable sources).
 * 3) As I say, I have created the title Sakyadhita as a redirect. German Wikipedia and English Wikipedia are entirely different communities, with differing policies and guidelines. Indeed, it is often unhelpful to compare the two sites too closely.
 * 4) The self-published source referred to is the fifth one down in the references section, attributed to "Tsomo, Karma Lekshe" who, according to the text of the article, was instrumental in the founding of Sakyadhita and can therefore be considered a self-published source. Because of the lack of inline citations it is unclear, to the casual reader, what source supports what text.
 * 5) You say "Still hoping we can get this up correctly by January 5 conference in India". I am concerned by this remark, the article is not currently "incorrect" and there is no deadline on Wikipedia. Also, nobody owns articles and the only correct version is the one that is verifiable, reliably sourced, notable and written from a neutral point of view; after all, Wikipedia is not a forum for advertising or promotion. Pol430   talk to me  18:34, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

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 * Thanks Mabdul. And thank you for your help with the technical issues I was having :) Pol430   talk to me  11:59, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

James Goodnight
Hi Pol. You had fulfilled a for me a while ago (perhaps under my prior username). I try not to pester the same people over and over, so when I saw your comment on DGG's Talk, I thought since I haven't bothered you in a while, I would see if you were interested in looking at my Request Edit for James Goodnight.

Even from a neutral perspective, he has a very positive reputation, so the article may appear promotional at-a-glance. I promise I'm trying to be neutral here ;-)

I noted on the Talk page that this is more of a first draft, as I hope to bring it up to GA eventually. CorporateM (Talk) 18:58, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry I haven't got around to this yet, I will do if I find time. Pol430   talk to me  17:21, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Re: Wiki Page of Shiv Pratap Shukla - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiv_Pratap_Shukla
Hi ,

As per review comments for wikipage of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiv_Pratap_Shukla :

1>I have updated office tenures details with correct citations & references. 2>Since Internet was not so much widespread in India in starting of 90's, ministerial post holded during 1991-1992 are not mentioned in any newspaper articles, so as of now accordingly i have removed that offices from infobox content. WIll update those contect when have proper refernces to justofy that. 3>BJP or Bhartiya Janta party is a Democratic party which has huge organisation all over india, it nominates its state presidents as office bearers for poltical activities. When BJP was in Power in Uttar pradesh as mentioned Mr Shukla holded Ministerial postion in state of Uttar Pradesh Goverment. After 2002 BJP is out of power in UP & as of Now BJP has nominated Mr Shukla as its Vice president for State of UP for political activities.

I hope Above explanations suffices.

Thanks. Ranveer 10:12, 30 December 2012 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ranvet (talk • contribs)


 * Yes, the article still needs a substantial copyedit. I will do more on this as and when I have time. Pol430   talk to me  17:20, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

A L Bruce Estates
I notice that you reviewed this article I recently wrote, awarding it a C grade. I found this highly demotivating, as I was in the process of preparing several Malawi-related articles from those not yet prepared.

The commentary days it is for an article that, "fails one or more of the criteria for B-Class. It may have some gaps or missing elements; need editing for clarity, balance or flow; or contain policy violations such as bias or original research." At the moment, I can't see that it has any gaps of contains any policy violations, and your list of articles does not suggest any particular Central African expertise, do I can only assume that you are referring to the middle part, "...need editing for clarity, balance or flow;".

As by implication your grade seems to endorse this view, could you please indicate how (in your opinion) the article may "...need editing for clarity, balance or flow;"?

Shscoulsdon (talk) 17:00, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I've re-graded it to B class. On reflection, I should have done that to begin with; the only reason I did not is because the article's lead section is too short, and does not adequately summarize the contents. Having a lead section is one of the B class criteria and any other article on English Wikipedia would be expected to have a lead section that complies with WP:LEAD. However, at AfC it is generally expected that newly created articles are not held to quite such stringent standards; I should have remembered this. Please accept my apologies and continue to enjoy editing Wikipedia. Best Pol430   talk to me  17:18, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks - I will look at WP:LEAD and try to produce something that conforms to its standards shortly.

Happy New Year

Shscoulsdon (talk) 11:22, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you for review
Thank you for your review of the Hawthorne C. Gray article, and for removing the userspace draft template. I really appreciate it. :-) Gildir (talk) 15:10, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You are very welcome :) Pol430   talk to me  20:28, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Article status
Hello Pol430 and Happy New Year! I am inquiring about article for creation: Yes! Golf. I don't know if the article has again been rejected or if it is still in the review queue. Sorry for asking such a newb question, just seeking the current status.

Thanks! X-15a2 (talk) 18:28, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi! It's still in the review que. When you re-submit the new template ends up at the bottom of the page (due to technical limitations in the software). We have a Robot that should automatically move the new yellow template to the top of the page, to make it more clear that the re-submit worked. But the Robot often goes AWOL :) The old red templates are left in place for auditing purposes. I will take another look at this one at some point this evening if I have time. Pol430   talk to me  18:34, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, interesting and appreciated. There's so much to learn about all this and I appreciate the information! X-15a2 (talk) 19:54, 4 January 2013 (UTC)


 * As promised I've reviewed the submission again. Unfortunately, it does not appear the subject meets the inclusion guidelines. I have left a more detailed explanation on the submission page. I'm glad you are finding Wikipedia interesting and I'm sorry that your submission cannot be accepted at this time. I understand how disappointing this can be. If you would like to become more involved in Wikipedia, I run an adoption school to help new editors learn more about Wikipedia in a structured fashion. You can find details at User:Pol430/Adoption. Just let me know if you are interested. Pol430   talk to me  20:19, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

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wikiassociate on sainath dukkipati's page
pls.review it and select it i did a lot of hardwork on this,i'm just 13 from where will i get perfect reliable sources and I even challenged my friends that i'll get it done on wikipedia sainath dukkipati is a rising star he already signed more than 18 films with the big daddy's of bollywood and he's presence in the films are kept secret until the trailers are released. Some of his films are: chennai express,dabanng 3,milan talkies,gunday,e.t.c. so pls. accept it i'm begging you guys pls. if u guys aren't satisfied atleast accept it and make it and let it be an article for 3-5 days.Pls. I'm pleading you guys pls. there are more websites on his name if you want i can post them as reliable sources to, pls. my whole article is good ony the reliable sources is a problem but i provided you guys with 2 reliable sources if u want more websites on his name i gan give

Categories: Declined AfC submissionsAfC submissions by date/04 January 2013Pending AfC submissionsAfC submissions by date/05 January 2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.169.145.177 (talk) 04:04, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Marc Houalla for deletion
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Page Curation update
Hey all :). We've just deployed another set of features for Page Curation. They include flyouts from the icons in Special:NewPagesFeed, showing who reviewed an article and when, a listing of this in the "info" flyout, and a general re-jigging of the info flyout - we've also fixed the weird bug with page_titles_having_underscores_instead_of_spaces in messages sent to talkpages, and introduced CSD logging! As always, these features will need some work - but any feedback would be most welcome.

Wes Newton
Wes Newton darts player has reached the Quater Final of the PDC World Darts Championship. So my edit is GOOD.

James Anderton AFC
Hi I didn't know my way round this and ended up putting stuff on the help desk where I found Huon to be unhelpful and even rude. I want to change reviewer from him as I have lost confidence. Please help.Nditon (talk) 08:02, 4 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Having worked alongside Huon for a significant amount of time, I have always found him to be a very patient and helpful editor. I think the extended dialogue at the help desk is more a misunderstanding than anything sinister. Also, I would strongly council you against passing comment on individual editors motives or personal traits. Wikipedia has a policy of no personal attacks which is rigorously enforced. It's worth mentioning that WIkipedia is a community of volunteers and no one has to do anything if they don't want to. Back to the matter at hand: I seem to recall dealing with another submission about an RAF officer that we could find very few references on, but he had a DFC and bar, I think, and had been more extensively written about in other publications. As a British editor who once served in the RAF, I understand the significance of the AFC as an award. With this in mind, I have checked in our notability discussion archives to see if Anderton's award of the AFC makes him notable per point 1 of WP:ANYBIO. I found this thread, which suggests there is no consensus that he is automatically notable because of his AFC. Due to the absence of significant coverage of Anderton, in other reliable sources, I don't think this article would survive if it were nominated for deletion and that is why two other reviewers have declined to create it. I'm sorry this has been a disappointing exercise for you, but without more reliable sources to evidence his notability, I'm not sure there is much more we can do with this submission. Pol430   talk to me  18:22, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments and I'm on the case and I am hopeful that I will have further relevant material and references shortly. I readily accept what you say about volunteers and I would also disapprove of personal attacks in either direction. I also think we should move on and I hope to submit further references shortly. I have located stuff in a local newspaper and the National Records office on top of the references I have already supplied. I haven't yet submitted the article for publication as I thought I was doing the sensible thing putting it in Sandbox asking for help before I did so. I'm heartened that you will be familiar with RAF issues and on the AFC and I'm taking the lack of consensus on automatic notability as a reasonably positive point. I would welcome you further help when I have colllated the further referencesNditon (talk) 19:56, 4 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, I would be happy to assist further if you manage to get your hands on more reference material. What we need really, is stuff that discusses Anderton by name and in reasonable detail. I note he was involved in the 1000 bomber formations during WWII. If you can track down more references that cover this aspect that would be a good starting point. The submission at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/James Anderton (RAF Officer) award of AFComitted frm list will stay where it is, so don't worry about it being deleted or anything. Just expand and add to that page rather than create a new sandbox. Good luck! Pol430   talk to me  20:14, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks - I'm very grateful. Will be back when stuff received in the post. Per ardua ad astra!!Nditon (talk) 23:13, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello again Pol. I have revised the article again with loads more references and I'd be grateful for your comments. I assume you can find the draft article?Nditon (talk) 14:01, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

I've tries to make some links to other articles work ( I know they are on there] but I cant as they keep coming out in red so I've given up pending your help!Nditon (talk) 14:53, 7 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I've left a comment on the submission. I'm sure you can address the point I raise and when this has been done I will be in a position to accept it. Don't worry about the internal links, I can help you with that. Pol430   talk to me  16:32, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much. Headlines inserted. I've also added "AFC" to his headline name to distinguish him from James Anderton former Chief Constable of Manchester - no relation. If that's not correct please advise- and again many thanks. PS I have also added more refereneces to the Syl Anderton article - and I will put the headlines in there as well now.Nditon (talk) 16:52, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

PS Can James now go in the AFC holders list?Nditon (talk) 17:02, 7 January 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅ the article is now live. And because of that, he now shows up in the AFC holders category. Pol430   talk to me  19:13, 7 January 2013 (UTC)