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Internetwikier
You can give it a rest. Internetwikier is gone, I don't think he's even reading this anymore. --Ravpapa (talk) 06:31, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

June 2015
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You deciding that something "marks the beginning" of a shift to something is original research; you need to find a secondary source that agrees with your interpretation if it's to go in an article. And quoting a subject's own website is inappropriate use of a WP:PRIMARY source (and more significantly goes against WP:BLPSELFPUB if he's talking about other people) - Wikipedia only has any interest in statements made by Bonehill when they have attracted actual press coverage, not every stupid thing he happens to say on his website. --McGeddon (talk) 10:53, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Category Jews
Listen, the page has to stay the way it was. If you want to change it, you need consensus. Right now you don't have that. Stop reverting my changes, I'm leaving it to the way it's been for years.Sir Joseph (talk) 21:31, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I just wanted to add, in case you are not familiar with the editing process, (I mean this in good faith, many editors come and edit and don't get the process and it's not good for anyone involved), editing needs consensus. If you edit something and it gets reverted, then a discussion needs to take place to determine if that should be reinserted into the article. In this case, there is no consensus to include. There was an RFC at another category, but that does not reflect on this category. You need to reach consensus before putting those categories back in. Sir Joseph (talk) 01:37, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

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Ways to improve A357 road (Great Britain)
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File:GillinghamSchool.jpg
The new version you uploaded of the school's crest/logo has been tagged as missing copyright information by a bot. The file will be eventually deleted if this is not addressed. Moreover, your claim that the file is PD-textlogo seem questionable at best and a posible copyright violation at worst. The threshold of originality in the United Kingdom is much lower than it is in other countries and this certainly seems to be well above it and too complex to even be considered ineligible for copyright protection. Logos of UK companies/organiztions, etc. much less complex than this are regularly deleted from Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons.

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 * I could possibly remake the logo myself, if neccessary. The logo I uploaded isn't actually complete, it's an extract of another, but I guess it doesn't make much difference.

&#x2230;Bellezzasolo &#x2721; Discuss  21:53, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You could remake the logo, but the original work you base your creation on would still need to be taken into account; moreover, your recreation might in and of itself be considered eligible for a copyright protection as a derivative work.
 * For example, if photocopy an image of painting put of a book, then the photocopy is only a simple reproduction and therefore not eligible for a copyright; the original work, however, may be eligible for copyright protection depending upon its age and complexity, etc. If it is protected, I cannot upload the photocopy to Wikipedia without the permission of the original copyright holder. At the same time, if I sit down and create a drawing of the painting I am looking at in the book, then my creation is most likely protected by copyright as well. If the original work is PD like the Mona Lisa, then there's only the copyright of the derivative to consider; if it's not PD, then there's two copyrights to consider. Another problem with a user recreation is that it might be fine for your user page, but not really for the article about the school. Other editors might not care about your userpage, but they may challenge its use in the article.
 * Generally, files are PD because they are either too simple or too old. I don't think the first case applies here, even if the file was of US origin, and I have no idea about the age. If we're talking about a logo which was first published prior to 1923 then it's probably PD; otherwise, it might depend upon the List of countries' copyright lengths. You might want to ask at WP:MCQ or c:COM:VP/C for more specific help regarding this.
 * Finally, wordmarks are sometimes a PD option used by some. If the school has some kind of official wordmark, then this would likely be considered PD, even in the UK, since typically words in commercially available fonts, etc. are not considered eligible for copyright protection. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:17, 4 January 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure about the age of the logo, hence I aired on the side of caution with the original (the school is 500 years old, so it may be old enough). My reproduction is a reproduction in as much as "deer on shield with the same motto", so I've reverted the image to non free and will upload my work (which really shouldn't count as derivative) for user pages.

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Mary Jane Saunders
Hello! I was looking at the recent changes and I noticed an IP edited text on Mary Jane Saunders. Upon further review, I see you warned the IP that they violated WP:3RR and told them to take it up on the talk page. I am unsure if you have this page on your watchlist but I felt you should know as you previously dealt with them. I reverted their change as it was unsourced and told them to take it up on the talk page, as per your suggestion. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 20:02, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

They have been warned by an admin since I last posted here.HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 21:09, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Userbox request
Hello! I was wondering if you could make me a "This user is interested in the Age of Discovery" userbox. I would greatly appreciate it if the image could be an old ship painting on left side, with a brown backround and white lettering. I also thank you for your great contributions on Wikipedia. Keep it up!

An image like this would be great. Empirecoins (talk) 03:13, 6 January 2018 (UTC)






 * &#x2230;Bellezzasolo &#x2721; Discuss  02:25, 5 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks man. Empirecoins (talk) 03:21, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

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I would suggest that you review Manual_of_Style/Icons. Vsmith (talk) 12:45, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
 * "In lists or tables, flag icons may be relevant when such representation of different subjects is pertinent to the purpose of the list or table itself.". Where are you seeing the use to be inappropriate? &#x2230;Bellezzasolo &#x2721;  Discuss  12:51, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
 * How are the icons relevant? They are simply "colorful clutter" and totally unneeded. Vsmith (talk) 12:54, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Pending changes reviewer granted
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Oxford map
Hey, the syntax error i'm referring to is the one that shows an open set of double brackets under the header }}. Does that appear for you? Also, I changed the default to yes for you! as that is the default state you have in the suggested template code (but not a big point) Aloneinthewild (talk) 18:21, 6 January 2018 (UTC)


 * The curly brackets I hadn't spotted, thanks. I've fixed that. The halls_marked is right, as I put in "no" as an option that removes the purple pogs, hence the resulting syntax (i.e. if no is set, it then skips the code). &#x2230;Bellezzasolo &#x2721;  Discuss  18:44, 6 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Ok I understand. Aloneinthewild (talk) 20:43, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Are you working on a bot?
Is yours? If so, what's its status with getting approval? —C.Fred (talk) 21:23, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Because I just blocked it for its frequent edits. —C.Fred (talk) 21:33, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
 * C.Fred, I noticed the account as well, but if I remember correctly, it doesn't need to be authorized as long as it is only editing it's own userspace. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 21:38, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm working on the bot. It can only edit its own userspace right now - I'm still working on it (and working out exactly I want to do with it).I actually just came on to shut it off. &#x2230;Bellezzasolo &#x2721;  Discuss  22:19, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm going to unblock it. Btw, it's buggy: it's getting a lot of false positives. —C.Fred (talk) 22:20, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Pronunciation
Sorry to ask, but, how do you pronounce your username? —151.132.206.26 (talk) 00:51, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Bell-Ezz-A -So-Low is how I pronounce it, no problem for asking. It should probably be Sole-O (from its origin), but I don't think that sounds as good. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  00:55, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

That Teahouse question about silent reverts
Would you happen to have an opinion on or anything to contribute to the MOS:ANIME dispute I brought up at WP:Teahouse? Or feel free to just tell me off here if I did things the wrong way. Or nothing, if you’d rather not get involved. But regardless of your response, thanks for answering at Teahouse, and above. —67.14.236.50 (talk) (earlier at 151.132.206.26) 02:37, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Coloured is a racist apartheid manufactured word that is hate speech
The accepted "Khalid" is an afrikaansed version of the same word and is accepted by a large majority of this apartheid-made group post apartheid.
 * The article is about the name. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  11:43, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Charlene McMann
Hi, I’m Charlene McMann and I’m trying to be removed from Wikipedia. I’m not a notable person to be on a Wikipedia. My husband Scott Seaman put me on here and I took a plea deal but I was threatened to do so. You took him off and he wanted to stay on. I don’t want to be on here, it’s ruining my life and I have many health issues. I don’t know how to use all this Wikipedia stuff and can figure it out. I’m trying to be removed because of what I posted before. I’m not trying to disrespect Wikiepedias guidelines at all, I can’t figure them out. I have poor eye sight from losing done vision in my eye so I can’t follow everything. I’m not familiar with the stuff like you are. Please help me in getting nominated for deletion of my name on Wikipedia.

Thank you, Charlene McMann2601:249:901:150D:FC25:47C7:CC9D:46E7 (talk) 17:47, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The appropriate procedure is WP:AFD - However, this is an old case. The only issue here would be WP:NOTE. I sincerely doubt that the page is not meeting guidelines, but certainly the best way to go about things is to stop trying to blank the page. That makes people view you as a vandal, it gets reverted, and you get ignored. If you play by the rulebook (there's a guide here: WP:PG), people will be much more accommodating. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  17:52, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd say the best argument you have is WP:BLP1E - Single event notability. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  18:01, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Please see the talk page of the article re: community ban, as well as past (futile) attempts at removing the article.--Cahk (talk) 19:22, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I am aware of the previous, I made an SPI that was G6'ed. As a result, I attempted the diplomatic approach. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  22:30, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The SPI is actually here: Sockpuppet investigations/Mariasfixing/Archive.--Cahk (talk) 03:21, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * We (as in, numerous editors and even some administrators) tried to be diplomatic with Ms. McMann and gave her numerous avenues to pursue the matter, but she is solely interested in deleting the article that either she or, as she alleges, created by her husband. When she didn't get what she wanted, the socks came up with multiple fake suicide warnings, legal threats, deliberate vote stacking and continued sock-puppetry. Good for you for being diplomatic, but a community site ban is in effect for a reason. --Cahk (talk) 03:28, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

sorry
I didn't mean to hound by noting the SPI, I just wanted to provide explanation as to why I wouldn't be commenting on it further so that it didn't seem I was pulling a "fire and forget". I can strike / delete it if you think that's advisable? Chetsford (talk) 02:43, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I wasn't talking about you, I was saying you were the victim. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  02:44, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

PERM clerking
Hi. Typically admins don’t need other users to clerk requests for permissions: Musikbot tells us if the prerequisites are met or if the flag has recently been denied, and most of us have the ability to look at a contribution history on our own. This is also a bit presumptuous to be clerking on a flag you were literally granted 12 days ago (pending changes reviewer), which is handed out very liberally, and on a permission you don’t even have yourself (rollback). Basically it can come of as being a jerk to other users that you are putting them through the ringer on their experience when you aren’t particularly experienced yourself. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:44, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I've been trying to get a feel for the process from both sides.  &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  13:52, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. You typically only get experience working PERMs after you become an admin: PERM is not a discussion venue, it is a request for unilateral admin action. Community comments may happen, but this is typically done rarely and by experienced users who are personally aware of something that an administrator might easily overlook.Also, on an unrelated note, is there a reason I can’t edit by section on your talk page, or is it just something on my end? People typically like the ability to only edit one section of a page :) TonyBallioni (talk) 14:02, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * , it's because they've got at the top of the page. As a note, I removed the INDEX since a) it could be misleading and b) user talk pages aren't indexed. Primefac (talk) 14:27, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I was wondering what was causing that. It must have come in for some reason, but I can't remember. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  15:04, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Aspect ratio
You undid my edit to page: Aspect_ratio_(image). I had removed duplicate text that a vandal added in the middle of a sentence. I'll let you re-revert it. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aspect_ratio_(image)&action=history --63.226.192.139 (talk) 16:46, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I’ve reverted due to the duplication. I still don’t see any vandalism though. As a consequence of viewing the diff in isolation, it looked like unexplained removal. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  17:04, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

2018 Winter Olympics
Please do accept edits that are false. Uganda has not qualified. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 19:46, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * While I won't accept changes I know to be false, according to WP:PC, it's not the role of a reviewer to check factual accuracy, merely check that it isn't vandalism. I do try uphold accuracy as well, however I can't always get it right. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  17:29, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Prow house
Hi, thanks for helping out with the prep sets at DYK. Before you promote another nomination, please check that all the requirements have been met, including those on the Supplementary rules page. (Yes, DYK has been accused of having too many rules). In the case of this nomination, the article has a whole section that's unreferenced, which doesn't meet Rule D2, so I removed it from prep and returned it to the nominations page.

I notice that you didn't close the template after promoting the hook. Please read WP:DYKNA for how to do that. If you have any questions, drop me a line. Yoninah (talk) 16:52, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Information Is inaccurate or inappropriate
The information left on my page is inaccurate or inappropriate, therefore I would like it to be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djoyner22 (talk • contribs) 23:27, 30 January 2018 (UTC)


 * I think you need to familiarize yourself with wikipedia policy - particularly WP:NOTCENSORED, and WP:OWN. There's guidance about this at WP:BIOSELF, and an essay at WP:PROUD. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  23:33, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * will not have notified . You need to get it right first time; subsequent amendments will not retrigger a failed notification. will have notified them though, since it's a whole new post. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 00:54, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

whats the problem?
My contribution to Edward Snowden's wikipedia page did not need to be referenced. I did not claim anything. I just mentioned that he has never been called a fraud intent on sowing paranoia for the purpose of promoting self-censorship. I didn't contribute anything that needed to be referenced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:41DF:F746:219C:4A20:A293:3F90 (talk) 00:45, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * A statement like that still needs a reference. Saying something like that can infer that that is what you believe. Also, he's never been called a monster coloured in sky blue pink. It's not really notable what he hasn't been called. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  01:31, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Ann Gillis, date of death
Hi,

I tried to alter the page concerning actress Ann Gillis. Her son, Gordon Fraser, contacted me to inform about Ann Gillis' passing, 31th of January 2018, in the United Kingdom. I administrate her tribute page on Facebook: Looking for Ann Gillis.

Regards, Ingrid Hoeben — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.192.243.194 (talk) 15:04, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, I understand that the information is probably correct. If there's any document that says that she has passed, cite it and it'll be fine. The requirement for a citation is to avoid the situation here - Twitter. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  15:07, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

AC
This is with regards to you editing Donald Trump Jr. -- Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 15:34, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Ann Gillis
Hi, there is no official obituary yet. But I can give you this info sent by Ann Gillis' son, late last night. If this isn't enough, no problem. Regards, Ingrid https://www.facebook.com/LookingForAnnGillis/inbox/1537860422916638/?notif_id=1517428538633501&notif_t=page_wall&selected_item_id=1537860422916638 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.192.243.194 (talk) 15:50, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Can I explain the edition we made on WMShL
Dear Sir, May I have your email I'd to send you our explanation? Regards, Majid Majid.cscm (talk) 04:06, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
 * You can either wikimail me - here, or discuss it on a talk page, I'm easy. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  04:08, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Rollback granted
Hi Bellezzasolo. After reviewing your request for "rollbacker", I have [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&user=&page=User%3ABellezzasolo enabled] rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback: If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! Mz7 (talk) 17:54, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
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 * Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
 * Rollback should never be used to edit war.
 * If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
 * Use common sense.

DTTR
Just so you know, when nominating an article for deletion, Twinkle automatically notifies the author as a courtesy unless you opt out, and typically it is seen as bad form to not notify someone with the Twinkle template, even if they are a regular. Also, it’s probably safe to assume that a member of the arbitration committee who has a link to DTTR in her talk header is aware of the concept and doesn’t need a not-funny template reminder about it. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:22, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
 * &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;  Discuss  23:04, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Oxford 58
Hi, please see m:Talk:Meetup/Oxford/58 and indicate which option would most suit you. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 23:20, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
 * done, thanks for the heads up. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  23:26, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

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Regarding Edit to Western Marine Shipyard Ltd.
Dear Sir, Good Day. The page of Western Marine is with full of objectionable news. Now Western Marine is in the right shape with due compliance with the regulatory requirement of Bangladesh Bank. Recently WMShL exported an Offshore Patrol Vessel (OPV) to Kenya for their Ministry of Agriculture, Livestock & Fisheries, the State Department for Fisheries and the Blue Economy. The 35 nautical miles speed (70km) OPV bagged the WorkBoat World best large patrol builder award 2017. It is the most capable OPV boat in the Kenyan MOF and is being used to patrol the Kenyan Exclusive Economic Zone, keeping an eye on illegal fishing and unauthorized attempts to access Kenyan natural recourses as well as responding to natural disasters along the coast and islands. Now, the world knows Bangladesh to be a country capable of building world-class ships. A high-tech fishing trawler of 3,300 DWT, named Norwegian Fishing Trawler (NFT), is being built by the WMSL for Norway. It is supposed to be the largest NFT and it will be handed over by 2019. Moreover, they have exported 2 units of 8,000DWT Mini Bulk Carrier for Jindal Steel Works, India, the biggest Ships Ever Built in Bangladesh and 01 unit of 65m Landing Craft, exported to UAE last year. Currently, They are building 32 ships for local and foreign buyers. Moreover, On the OPV handover ceremony, the Finance Minister of the People Republic of Bangladesh was present. Please see the news: http://www.thedailystar.net/business/western-marine-hands-over-18m-vessel-built-kenya-1448206

Hope you may understand. And please go through our edited history, then you got the points more.

However, if you need additional information, please let us know which document you will be required to satisfy your requirement. We will provide you all. But this way if you regularly editing Western Marine information in such a wrong way with old news, it is defaming our reputation in Global Shipbuilding Industry. Hope you will consider and support us to grow.

Regards// Western Marine Shipyard Ltd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Majid.cscm (talk • contribs) 07:03, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
 * It's good to hear that you managed to get out of the financial difficulty. However, it is a notable episode in the company's history, so it should probably be in the article. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  10:24, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

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Deletion of page
Hi Bellezzasolo You have recently marked a page that I have created. Could you kindly elaborate reason? Regards Jay — Preceding unsigned comment added by Javedlodhi (talk • contribs) 20:37, 24 February 2018 (UTC)


 * by your username, I'm guessing it's an article about yourself. You've provided no references, or indeed any sign that you meet the criteria for an article (WP:NOTE, in particular, WP:BIO). Even if you were notable, it still wouldn't be advisable to write about yourself (WP:COI). Also, please be aware that per WP:USER, you can't just store the article on your user page (user pages are meant to be about your Wikipedia editing, although estalbished editors get a lot of leeway). The nominate for deletion process is just that - a nomination. You can put your view across, and provide sources that the article is notable. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  21:28, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

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Univ of Oxford map
I noticed that whatever recent changes you made to the map have caused it to show up again at Category:Location maps with marks outside map and outside parameter not set, so somethings not right. It would probably be easier for you to look into this than me. MB 00:38, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I've set the outside parameter - it's Wolfson and St Stephen's house, which are off the first map, but on the second. I'm looking at further modification to Location map eventually to allow more control of stuff like this, but that's a big step. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  00:41, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Same thing at International Atomic Energy Agency, where every location is off one map or the other. I've set the outside=1 there already as a workaround. That is a unusual use of multi-maps. MB 00:48, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * yeah, that was a definite example of me being bold - a new possibility from the new capability for multi maps on multiple maps. I figured it was worth seing what the result was. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  01:01, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Mohammad bin Salman
Hi Bellezzasolo, I posted a few days ago on the talk page of Mohammad bin Salman about the section in that article titled ‘Persecution of human rights activists’, but there’s been no reply so far. If you’ve got a moment to take a look I'd welcome your input. Thanks. Tarafa15 (talk) 07:16, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi – the section has been trimmed down and moved to the Controversies section, but the main issues remain. I’ve pinged the editor on the article talk page and hope to have a discussion there. Thanks. Tarafa15 (talk) 02:25, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

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Church_of_the_Holy_Sepulchre - Request for Help
Hi Bellezzasolo, Is there any chance you could rephrase the Church_of_the_Holy_Sepulchre section, so it would be easeir to understand and NPOV ? I tried to edit it but English is not my native language and that section is odd now.37.19.119.247 (talk) 14:53, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem, that really does read awfully. I'll have a look. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  14:57, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

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Edit summary truncation script updated: link-like appearance
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Please don't revert the edit
Sir the edit was correct as the person who placed it for deletion has closed the discussion. Xenon One (talk) 18:58, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Where? Please provide a diff. Because that very much looks like an open AfD with two delete votes (plus maybe nom) to me. They get a special background colour when they're closed.

&#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;  Discuss  19:00, 7 March 2018 (UTC) Yes sir this is the same person
 * Well, they closed the discussion on their talk page, as you didn't seem to be paying attention. Head over to Articles for deletion/Rahul Singh (actor, born 1985) (very much still open) and make your case for notability. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  19:11, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

sir i was paying attention but she was not listening to me. She has already edited my article. Now the article has proper refrences. What can i do know? Please tell me.


 * RE: your ANI suggestion - don't worry about it. I'm working on something else right now. ;) CHRISSY MAD  ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  19:11, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

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Church of the Holy Sepulchre: Revision history
Add "your" Hebrew, but you have no right to remove Armenian. The Armenian Apostolic Church is one of the tree main owner of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre with Greeks and Catholics. And, as you can see there is a translation in Greek and Latin. Leo Freeman (talk) 01:10, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I didn't remove Armenian, rather relegated it to the note, which is captioned "other relevant languages". Frankly, more adjustment needs doing, as at the moment the first few lines of the article are just alternative names, which I feel interrupts the flow. My only motivation for my edit was that signage to the church is likely in Hebrew, Arabic and English, hence it makes sense to have those lanuguages as the primary languages. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  02:13, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 * You’ll need a source for that and to discuss it on the talk page. I’ve never been personally but considering the laws governing the custody of the site are based on an Ottoman decree from the 19th century that means any change in regards to signage would need the consent of the various Christian Churches who share custody of the sites as based on the rules set by the Ottomans. Tl;dr: a change in the languages listed is going to be a very controversial change to the article and will need consensus and sourcing. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:32, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

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Hi, if you are going to migrate location map templates to modules, please do the following I will try to clean up the ones that you didn't migrate properly. If you find it too complicated to follow all of these steps, then simply don't migrate the templates. There is no hurry to migrate them and has been migrating the ones with many transclusions. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 20:55, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
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 * how does Module:Location map/data/Sao Tome and Principe look? &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  22:45, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Better, I fixed the doc page and added the WikiProject tags. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ (talk)  22:48, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * So, that one actually wasn't so good: (1) You did add a good edit summary, but (2) you didn't move the old doc page, (3) you didn't create the module-space redirects, (4) you didn't update all the parameters in the old doc page, and (5) you didn't add the project tags. It would probably be best if you don't migrate anymore.  There are plenty of other more pressing things to work on like Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls and other maintenance categories.  Thanks!  Plastikspork ―Œ (talk)  23:23, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Is this still Sao Tome? Because I looked for redirects, but the tool didn't show any. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  23:26, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * adding ping &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  23:30, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, as I mentioned you forgot Module:Location map/data/São Tomé and Príncipe, among the other 4 things that I mentioned. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ (talk)  23:33, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Ngurah Rai Internatonal Airport and Kualanamu International Airport
File:Location map denpasar.png File:Location map Medan.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lino18 (talk • contribs) 05:54, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion/DopeNation
Hi, Bellezzasolo. I don't often do AfD closures, but when closing a AfD nomination, I think you should note in your closing summary about some irregularities in the nomination; in this case, the fact that have voted three times should have been clearly noted. When you discount some of their repetitive comments and assess the only other editor (excluding the nominator) that commented (by ), despite of voting week keep they have expressed doubts on the reliability of the sources. The job of the closer is to assess consensus (in this case, there really wasn't any), not to provide new observations, which I think your closing summary could be interpreted as such. Regards, Alex Shih (talk) 19:56, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thankyou for the advice, I'll bear that in mind in future. I did note (privately) that they had voted 3x, I'll make sure to be clearer in similar cases in the future. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  20:03, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Regarding ANI notifications
FWIW, I don't think there is any obligation to use a standardized template to notify another editor on their talk page of their being discussed on ANI, and in fact the template and a new talk section seems suboptimal when (as here) the edit that led to the ANI report took place on the user's talk page; I notified the user here. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 04:20, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * woops, somehow I missed that (I might have had on old diff loaded). &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  09:12, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

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The Hoax @DDCS
Hello,

I want to apologize to the entire Wikipedia community for my actions. I understand that this is a major thing here that shouldn't be tolerated and it never dawned on me that sandboxes, private pages, could be seen by others. I had only written that, as a project for an online class that I'm apart of. If I had known my consequences would be this harsh and rough, then I would have never done it in the first place.

I have these fantasies about things in my life that I would like to come true, and Wikipedia almost makes them come true. Growing up, my grandmother always told me, "if it's on Wiki, its legit". I always had this dream about designing my own school, I had this dream about creating my own TV series, and stuff like that. At the time of me doing it. Editing my own article, gave me the sense that it was real, and I liked how I edited it. It seemed so professional, and well constructed, that I thought that nothing would be in my path.

If you want, I do, give permission for you guys to delete my article(s). I realize now that its a serious offense in this community, and can promise, that this will never, never, happen again on this IP address. A link sent me a FANDOM page, and I will use that from now on.

I appreciate this very, very much. I hope we can let bygones be bygones, and move on from this situation.

Sincerely,

DDCS a.k.a (Devin Dandridge Christopher Simmons) — Preceding unsigned comment added by DDCS (talk • contribs) 21:25, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I have to hand it to you, giving a public apology like that is difficult, and I respect that. I would suggest posting the above to WP:ANI, so that everyone involved sees it. I think everyone here has made edits that proved problematic early in their wiki-career. Moving on, if you put in a mere fraction of the work put into the sandbox into existing articles, then there could be a huge improvement in that article. There are also notable topics which don't have an article (yet), but I don't recommend article creation yet, it's very difficult to get right. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  21:34, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

The Hoax Part:2
How would I post it?

I just did post something back in that section, but how am I sure people will see it?

And how could I preserve my article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DDCS (talk • contribs) 22:07, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
 * , just posting to that section should work. Whoever comes to close the discussion will see it. You can ping people (as I am you) if you want to notify them. Plus, when the article is deleted, you can keep it by copying it (in whatever way you wish, I'd suggest wikitext), or many admins are happy to email deleted pages to you (although they're "deleted", any admin can still see them). &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  22:14, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

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Just ignore that
I was wrong. Very wrong! ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 17:05, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I thought you reverted because I documented that it didn't support modern. Where do I find the details on this? &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  17:11, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry for all this, I think I'm going crazy (read: sleep-deprived). I was getting some CSS conflicts that made me think it was working, but yeah, I was right the first time around, no go on modern.  contentSub won't do it, modern needs mw_contentholder or {{code|mw-content-text}]. ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 17:30, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * For details, I just swap skins in my preferences and then inspect with the browser's tool. bodyContent worked just fine in Amalthea's version, though, and I have no idea why.  Maybe because of how you're each processing the links? ~  Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 17:33, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * easier said than done on an iPad! (Don't worry, I sussed that part). What I need to work out now is how to get jQuery to do what I want. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  17:57, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I've worked it out, it now works on modern. Your help was instrumental, even if it didn't seem like much, as it identified for me what I needed to do. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  18:03, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * 👏👏👏 ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 18:10, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

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 * Sorry, just noticed they're unicode characters. Ignore me. <b style="color: Blue;">Canterbury Tail</b> <i style="color: Blue;">talk</i> 22:21, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

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IP's exempt?--<b style="color:black">Dloh cier ekim </b> (talk) 16:27, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * As I posted at User talk:73.95.168.132, reverting edits by IPs to pages under the discretionary sanctions is exempt from the reverting restrictions (although I doubt exempt from 3RR). &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  16:32, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I never heard of that before. I have protected the wrong version, as always.--<b style="color:black">Dloh cier ekim </b> (talk) 16:33, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * no problem, it just happens that this is (maybe the only) one ARBCOM area I do know about in detail. I just found the quicklinks: WP:ARBPIA3 and WP:ARBPIA. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  16:37, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Is this a real violation of 1RR?
Could you please take a look at this? I think I'm being fooled--יניב הורון (talk) 00:25, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

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Page for improvement
I've put it here. Thanks for being prepared to do the work.Deb (talk) 08:02, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

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User:Bellezzasolo/Requests for adminship/Moses
Just letting you know that I have userfied User:Bellezzasolo/Requests for adminship/Moses. -- The SandDoctor Talk 23:57, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2018). Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * Administrators who have been desysopped due to inactivity are now required to have performed at least one (logged) administrative action in the past 5 years in order to qualify for a resysop without going through a new RfA.
 * Editors who have been found to have engaged in sockpuppetry on at least two occasions after an initial indefinite block, for whatever reason, are now automatically considered banned by the community without the need to start a ban discussion.
 * The notability guideline for organizations and companies has been substantially rewritten following the closure of this request for comment. Among the changes, the guideline more clearly defines the sourcing requirements needed for organizations and companies to be considered notable.
 * The six-month autoconfirmed article creation trial (ACTRIAL) ended on 14 March 2018. The post-trial research report has been published. A request for comment is now underway to determine whether the restrictions from ACTRIAL should be implemented permanently.

Technical news
 * There will soon be a calendar widget at Special:Block, making it easier to set expiries for a specific date and time.

Arbitration
 * The Arbitration Committee is considering a change to the discretionary sanctions procedures which would require an editor to appeal a sanction to the community at WP:AE or WP:AN prior to appealing directly to the Arbitration Committee at WP:ARCA.

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 * A discussion has closed which concluded that administrators are not required to enable email, though many editors suggested doing so as a matter of best practice.
 * The Foundations' Anti-Harassment Tools team has released the Interaction Timeline. This shows a chronologic history for two users on pages where they have both made edits, which may be helpful in identifying sockpuppetry and investigating editing disputes.

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RE your reply here
RR this reply (replying here as the user clearly does not want me posting on his page). I disagree that nothing can be done. This is a straight up violation of DS. An edit notice is not required. The user has been alerted to ARBPIA prior to his edits. I could simply take this to AE (or the edit warring noticeboard). I prefer not do so without asking for a self revert first - which I did - however given the reply why shouldn't I take this to AE?Icewhiz (talk) 04:11, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I took this to AE - given the response to the request, this was warranted in my view. I do suggest you check the ARBPIA 1RR restriction - as the 1RR restriction was applied directly by the Arbitration Committee it is not subject to the special awareness criteria for page-level sanction. The edit notice is irrelevant (in fact - it is my understanding that if it was placed by a non-admin (and not logged in the DS log), it is merely informative - it needs to be actually logged in the DS log for the edit notice to have effect (which is relevant for other sanction types, not this one)).Icewhiz (talk) 08:01, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Reply at Pastrami653 talk
Just friendly advice and personal opinion – re Special:Diff/834064153, I'm not sure that was helpful. The goal's to encourage editors to broaden their interests beyond the RfA, not to set them on a hat-collecting/editcountitis path. Additionally, content work is what most people think of as "editing Wikipedia", not vandalism patrol, and I think that focusing your message on vandalism might have also been confusing.

Also, I'm just wondering why Visibility is being used in your editnotice? That template's designed for the talk pages of project pages in namespaces that are not usually used, like MediaWiki Talk and so forth and certainly not for user talk pages, where discussion can and does happen.

Thanks for all your work, and keep it up. Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 20:20, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I figured that an editor generally interested in adminship was probably interested in the nitty-gritty side of things, but 2 edits isn't much to go on. I wasn't trying to go down editcountitus, I'll make some adjustments to my response. Re the editnotice, I figured that it might be helpful, since I'll be one of the few people around, but it was in lieu of a better template. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  20:29, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Edit warrior Zionist Jew
We understand you're a edit warrior Zionist Jew. But we can make Wikipedia baised. Please discuss at talk page before edit warring.2405:205:232E:3E16:0:0:227E:90A0 (talk) 22:12, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Let us discuss here. Please don't remove your reality out of shame . Accept your jewsih background.2405:205:232E:3E16:0:0:227E:90A0 (talk) 22:19, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
 * For reference: IP reverting multiple editors, removing sourced statement that frankly amounts to the sky is blue. I wasn't the one removing the above comment when the above accusation was posted. Conclusion: POV vandal lacking serious CLUE. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  22:34, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Y-DNA haplogroups in populations of South Asia
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WP:UAA reports on users with no edits
Generally, there is no reason to report usernames with no edits whatsoever. Per WP:UAAI: "Wait until the user edits. Do not report a user that hasn't edited unless they are clearly a vandal. We do not want to welcome productive editors with a report at UAA, nor do we want to waste our time dealing with accounts that may never be used." The exceptions are obvious hate speech or names that attack a living person/Wikipedia editor, those are blockable even without any edits, but other run-of-the-mill violations need not be reported unless and until they at least attempt to edit, and you should be able to clearly explain what the problem is if it is not immediately evident.

For whatever reason, every day dozens, if not hundreds of accounts are created that never make one single edit. It is our responsibility as admins to conscientiously review every report a user makes at UAA, so we have to check for contribs, deleted contribs, and tripping of the edit filter for every one of these reports, only to find out there's nothing there and therefore no problem to be solved. So we add the wait tag to the report, it goes to WP:UAA/HP for a week or more, and must then be reviewed again to see if the account has since become active before removing it. That's time that could be spent doing more productive things, but you basically obligate admins to do it by making such reports. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:22, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * That had dropped off my radar somehow, thanks. I've previously only UAA'd blatant stuff, which is probably why. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  16:26, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Could do with some admin eyes
Regarding the page Draft:Ameya Dabli, it looks to me like there may be socking. It would help to know who created the original version of the page. Thanks! &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;  Discuss  12:20, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
 * See Sockpuppet investigations/Ashishtripathi0802. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:27, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

The Switch
Hi!! Im not experiment! I only do a page similar to Drag Race page, because each season need own page! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esuta (talk • contribs) 23:34, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

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Im not bandalish The Switch Page
What bandalish i do??? I only make this page better and similar to Rupaul's Drag Race Page.

The People revert my edits for no reason!

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Esuta (talk • contribs) 13:06, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I've changed to warning - I saw the edit warring in Huggle. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  13:14, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Constructive
Bellezzasolo, the edit was EXTREMELY constructive. The likelihood of being attacked by a tewwowist is .000023% of the likelihood of being struck by lightning while eating a blue cheese sandwich in a cafe on Mars. It is NEGLIGIBLE. As long as these "safety concerns" are not exposed for what they are -- *paranoia* straight out of 1984, then we'll never get away from the Two Minutes' Hate.

Oh oh. Now the thought police will come get me. Oh noooooo ........... not the rats !!

If you had any common sense you'd be back reverting that article to my wording, helping us all move forward past these paranoid delusions that Big Brother is peddling :) 116.231.75.71 (talk) 06:22, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * It still is an WP:NPOV issue. To call it paranoia is to pass judgement on those concerns. "Increased safety concerns" is neutrally worded, not judging whether they are justified or not. An example of the same issue to the other side would be "the significant threat". &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  10:58, 10 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Look up the definition of paranoia. If the shoe fits, it's not a personal point of view :) You could cite "increased safety concerns" in an article about New England witch hunts or the Inquisition, too :P 116.231.75.71 (talk) 12:20, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

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Incomplete DYK nomination
Hello! Your submission of Template:Did you know nominations/Gavin Lowe (computer scientist) at the Did You Know nominations page is not complete; if you would like to continue, please link the nomination to the nominations page as described in step 3 of the nomination procedure. If you do not want to continue with the nomination, tag the nomination page with db-g7, or ask a DYK admin. Thank you. DYKHousekeepingBot (talk) 15:41, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

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Visopsys
Probably okay. I would start again from scratch though. Deb (talk) 20:02, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I will, I just thought I'd run it past you beforehand. Thanks! &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  20:05, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

A3 tag
Please stop tagging new articles with WP:CSD unless at least ten minutes have elapsed since the article was created. An example (I've seen others) is श्रीडूंगरगढ़ दर्शन. (The same is true for A1.) --Bbb23 (talk) 12:56, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Overseas Plastic Surgery Appeal
Hi there! I noticed you did a non-admin closure on my AfD nomination here. I can see why this would appear to be a SNOW close, but upon further inspection, the claims are somewhat unfounded. For instance, The Telegraph reference doesn't mention the subject at all, the Wales Online reference mentions the subject once and only in passing. As the keep votes mentioned, Nursing Online is a trade magazine, falling short of the audience required to categorize it as "wide-spread" media. For this and a couple other reasons, I ask that you consider reverting your closure, allowing me to post my rebuttal. Thanks in advance! Drewmutt ( ^ᴥ^ ) talk  18:10, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
 * , it wasn't a SNOW close, as the time period had expired, so I don't think unclosing would be appropriate. It's not the role of the closer to make their own observations, so I hadn't noticed that there was no mention in the Telegraph. Obviously, such a fact is important, and I don't think that in the light of the new evidence opening a 2nd nomination would be inappropriate. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  19:09, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

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14th Airlift Squadron Page
Greetings, I am Lt Col Adam Bingham, the current Commander of this squadron --- the changes I made are accurate. I know this because I am the leader of this historic organization.

THANK YOU for your assistance! Username is c17pelican01

Best, Adam Bingham — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.25.131.43 (talk) 20:37, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
 * The problem with the changes is neutrality, e.g. THE WORLD'S PREMIER AIRLIFT SQUADRON. That's just not encyclopedic. Of course, if you can find a WP:reliable source that claims as much, it can go in a section (e.g. Aclaim). However, for an example, see William Shakespeare, it still says "widely regarded as the greatest writer". Secondly, regarding details, if it's challenged and unsourced it can be removed, although I'm not personally challenging the detail there (see WP:NOTTRUTH). &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  20:47, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Okay, fair enough, but why do you keep deleting the mission section? Outside of what you stated - it is factually correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by C17pelican01 (talk • contribs) 20:52, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Can you please add this to the mission section: Pelicans provide combat-ready C-17A Globemaster III aircrews for worldwide airlift missions supporting Department of Defense and National Command Authority directives. They conduct air refueling, airdrop and airland operations supporting global contingencies for combatant commanders by projecting and sustaining combat forces directly into theater drop zones and austere airfields. Pelicans perform emergency nuclear airlift, aeromedical evacuation & humanitarian relief missions in the technologically advanced, $262.7M C-17A airlift aircraft in all phases of ground and flight activity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by C17pelican01 (talk • contribs) 20:55, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I actually didn't (in fact, my edit restored it). What happened was a lot of simultaneous editing, so edit conflicts occurred. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  20:59, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Upcoming changes to wikitext parsing
Hello,

There will be some changes to the way wikitext is parsed during the next few weeks. It will affect all namespaces. You can see a list of pages that may display incorrectly at Special:LintErrors. Since most of the easy problems have already been solved at the English Wikipedia, I am specifically contacting tech-savvy editors such as yourself with this one-time message, in the hope that you will be able to investigate the remaining high-priority pages during the next month.

There are approximately 10,000 articles (and many more non-article pages) with high-priority errors. The most important ones are the articles with misnested tags and table problems. Some of these involve templates, such as infoboxes, or the way the template is used in the article. In some cases, the "error" is a minor, unimportant difference in the visual appearance. In other cases, the results are undesirable. You can see a before-and-after comparison of any article by adding ?action=parsermigration-edit to the end of a link, like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Foss?action=parsermigration-edit (which shows a difference in how infobox ship is parsed).

If you are interested in helping with this project, please see Linter. There are also some basic instructions (and links to even more information) at https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2018-April/001836.html You can also leave a note at WT:Linter if you have questions.

Thank you for all the good things you do for the English Wikipedia. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:18, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

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DYK for Gavin Lowe (computer scientist)
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Unknown question
Hi,

Why have you blocked our site? There was no advertisement material on it simply the programme description. Can you please not to do it? thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.99.35.115 (talk) 12:47, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Firstly, I haven't blocked your site (I take deleted a page) - I'm not an administrator. Secondly, you're editing as an IP, so I don't know to what you refer - I've been tagging a number of advertisement pages recently, so please clarify which one. Finally, the pages I have tagged for deletion are clear violations of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Generally, you cannot write a neutral article about yourself or your product - it ends up being an advert. User space is less thoroughly checked than mainspace, but promotional articles can be deleted anywhere.  &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  12:52, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Incorrect closing statement
At Articles for deletion/Ingrid Aliaga Fernández, your NAC rationale was The result was keep. Fairly good consensus to keep. Arguments against were that there didn't seem to be much in depth coverage. Arguments for included asserting notability through several sources and a new SNG from WikiProject Chess..

As was pointed out in that discussion, WP:NCHESS is most definitely not an SNG and has little-to-no chance of becoming one. It's some guidance added recently by a handful of WikiProject members with no broad community support. Since our notability guideline requires some "significant"/in-depth coverage, the only relevant question, as I see it, is whether the arguments that show source coverage amounts to "significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject" or if they do not and instead rely on WP:NCHESS.

Don't get me wrong, as much as we don't want to admit it, headcounts matter in an AfD like this and I can't see anyone actually closing it as delete, but that you called the basis for the arguments an SNG, lending credibility to something that is far from a guideline as basis for keeping, is a little irksome. I wouldn't bother sending to DRV, but would request changing the closing statement to something that indicates that the keep arguments made a stronger policy/guideline-based case than the delete arguments, or something to that effect. &mdash; Rhododendrites  <sup style="font-size:80%;">talk \\ 01:07, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  01:24, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Arvind Ravulavaru
Good afternoon.

I created a Wikipedia page for Arvind Ravulavaru, an Indian author and innovator. The page, however, is recommended for deletion.

May I ask suggestions from you as to how the page can be made more sufficient enough to remain in Wikipedia?

Thank you very much.
 * The key to succeeding in the deletion process is showing notability. The first way that this is checked is the general notability guideline. There are also some special notability guidelines - relevant in this case is NPEOPLE, the notability guideline for people. This works as an either/or, so showing one of those is sufficient. It is my assessment that the article's subject fails the criteria, hence the nomination. However, I'd be happy if you proved me wrong. What you'll probably want to do, after reading those guidelines, is to find reliable sources that give significant coverage to Arvind - they don't have to be English. I'd guess that non-English sources are your best shot, as I couldn't see any significant coverage in English. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  12:41, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Arvind Ravulavaru
Good afternoon.

I received your reply and acted in accordance with your suggestions. I do hope that they help this time, as they now contain more notable and reliable sources.

Thank you very much.

Abby Kohn
I believe there are sufficent citations for her, as most of her information matches her writing partner Marc Silversein who does have an extensive page.

What is the issue please?
 * I proposed deletion at the time, as a matter of policy, seeing a biography of a living person without any citations. The article has been improved since and is no longer in danger of deletion wrt to BLP, and, in my opinion, would survive any deletion discussion. If you take a look at my PROD log, roughly 40% of the articles I propose for deletion in this manner survive. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  22:59, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)
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G.N. Panicker
Please let me know if you think the article now passes WP:NAUTHOR. --<b style="color:navy">Neil N </b> <i style="color:blue">talk to me</i> 19:42, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
 * My feeling is they probably are notable, although if I was being really picky, the enyclcopedia is a tertiary source, and the awards page is a trivial mention - leaving only one source, twice. However, the encyclopedia will be based on secondary sources, which would be worth a look. There's also the award - the page itself might be a trivial mention, the award might be enough, since it's fairly accepted that a significant award demonstrates notability. All in all, I get the sense the subject is notable, but there might be some i's and t's to dot and cross. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  19:52, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Since the subject is a Tamil-language writer I doubt we'll get more sources in English. --<b style="color:navy">Neil N </b> <i style="color:blue">talk to me</i> 19:55, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Bellezzasolo
How do you have the Wikipedia logo bouncing on the top left side of the screen? ― YoloMaxi  &#9742;  (contribs) 21:18, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I use a span element with absolute positioning and a GIF. The relevant line of code is New-Bouncywikilogo.gif
 * &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;  Discuss  23:15, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Wikidata/2018 Infobox RfC
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Administrators' newsletter – May 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2018). Administrator changes
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 * The ability to create articles directly in mainspace is now indefinitely restricted to autoconfirmed users.
 * A proposal is being discussed which would create a new "event coordinator" right that would allow users to temporarily add the "confirmed" flag to new user accounts and to create many new user accounts without being hindered by a rate limit.

Technical news
 * AbuseFilter has received numerous improvements, including an OOUI overhaul, syntax highlighting, ability to search existing filters, and a few new functions. In particular, the search feature can be used to ensure there aren't existing filters for what you need, and the new  function can be used when checking multiple namespaces. One major upcoming change is the ability to see which filters are the slowest. This information is currently only available to those with access to Logstash.
 * When blocking anonymous users, a cookie will be applied that reloads the block if the user changes their IP. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. This currently only occurs when hard-blocking accounts.
 * The block notice shown on mobile will soon be more informative and point users to a help page on how to request an unblock, just as it currently does on desktop.
 * There will soon be a calendar widget at Special:Block, making it easier to set expiries for a specific date and time.

Arbitration
 * The Arbitration Committee is seeking additional clerks to help with the arbitration process.

Obituaries
 * (Craig Franklin) passed away in mid-April. Lankiveil joined Wikipedia on 12 August 2004 and became an administrator on 31 August 2008. During his time with the Wikimedia community, Lankiveil served as an oversighter for the English Wikipedia and as president of Wikimedia Australia.

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Please comment on Talk:Bitcoin Cash
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Signpost drafts
I'm not sure what 'official' Signpost policy is, but I would imagine that while drafts are still in user space and have not been moved/transcluded to the newsroom, that they should still enjoy users space privileges - even if for layout experiment purposes they are housed in a Signpost page shell. I certainly encourage and appreciate your enthusiasm, but please see WP:UP and please don't edit anything in my user space without the courtesy of a discussion on my  main  talk  page first. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:38, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I didn't (and don't) know what official SP policy is either. Sorry if it felt intrusive, that wasn't my intent. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  13:18, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm still learning how to run The Signpost and helping Bri to scrape the rust off the typesetting and printing presses. Since its long-term editorial team resigned without warning, although I've taken on the responsiblity for a very short while as E-in-C to keep it going, I'm feeling my way around it offices in the dark and still looking for the light switches. More importantly, and what you weren't aware of, is our policy on what we call 'userspace', and I do understand that seeing my draft enclosed in a Signpost page wrapper led to your confusion. No worries, I'm still confused with the array of equipment in the newsroom. I'll know some more when I blown more of the dust off some of it. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:47, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I know about userspace, I also recognized that it was a SP draft in userspace - WP:UP isn't particularly clear about norms relating to userspace drafts, nor is Help:Userspace_draft. What I wasn't clear about was the protocol, so I figured if I was being helpful I was being helpful, and if not there's a revert button with no hard feelings attached, which I'd say is in line with BOLD. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  13:56, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Hospitals
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drat.
stupid twinkle.-- <b style="color:black">Dloh cier ekim </b> (talk) 14:48, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem, I really should have modified the output of the submit template. I basically knew this would happen. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  14:50, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion
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Hi
Please stop posting comments on ANI cases you aren't involved in. You are not an admin, and your comments are unhelpful at best and misleading at worst. ANI is not a nice place; its best to let the admins do their job and try to improve the encyclopedia instead. Thank you. Edward Mordake (talk) 13:16, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Frankly, non admins opine there all the time. It's part of the consensus building process. And has been a long time, as historically one's participation at the drama boards is considered at RfA. And I value Bellezzasolo's insight.-- <b style="color:black">Dloh cier ekim </b> (talk) 13:20, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It is true that non-admins opine there all the time, and some of their contributions are helpful. I am talking specifically about Bellezzasolo, because Bellezzasolo's comments were not. Edward Mordake (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The result I wanted to see in that case was for the case to be withdrawn, which it was. I didn't want to see a block for either of you two, and you weren't. I still hold, had it come down to administrator intervention (which is what ANI is really for), there would have been blocks involved. However, admins don't need to go trawling through the entire interaction history of users, that's a waste of their time (we don't have enough admins for that!). Instead, other users regularly take a look at the issue and make their judgement, presenting evidence. Yes, sometimes it escalates into drama, but I try to keep away from the dramatic cases. In this case, both of you had made mistakes. I'd much prefer the result that occurred (the "bygones be bygones" approach), rather than a short block for two productive editors. You got into an edit war, we've all had that temptation. You're right that blocks are preventative, but, as with many debates about the criminal justice system, there is a view that a deterrent (so a minor 24h block) prevents both re-offending and others doing the same. Again, that's not the outcome I wanted. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  13:53, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Its not about being right or wrong, its about having a positive or negative influence on existing drama you are not involved in. Your intentions were good. Nothing you said was ridiculous or stupid. Problem was that you had a negative influence instead of a positive one. You didn't help me, the other person, or the closing admin. That is why I ask you to stop posting comments on ANI cases you aren't involved in. An admin who has to make a decision is forced to do some reading; but you started commenting before you read the discussion and made the situation worse (I understand that was not your intention, but it happened). Again, I am not saying all non-admins shouldn't opine there. Edward Mordake (talk) 14:01, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * As far as I can tell, you have not communicated with the closer, so I don't know how you know if Bellezzasolo's comments helped them or not. They did not seem to express any such sentiment in the closing statement, it's rare that anyone feels it's necessary. I don't see where the other editor expressed an opinion on the helpfulness of Bellezzasolo's intervention either. In any case, even if Bellezzasolo's comments were unhelpful there, they would have to be very bad to come to the conclusion from this single incident that Bellezzasolo should stay away. That would require a more detailed analysis of their contribs. Do remember that other than the ability to take administrative action (blocks etc), admins have no special powers on ANI. In this case, the closer was an admin, but non admins regularly close ANI discussions. There is no requirement or expectation that admins are needed to close a discussion at ANI especially in non contentious cases where no administrative action is required. Warnings aren't really something that ANI is set up for, but if a warning does come as a result of an ANI discussions it can come from an admin or non admin as they should carry equal weight to anyone who understands wikipedia. I'm sure many times, m any of use at ANI don't even know or care if someone is an admin. It's nearly always irrelevant. The only times it's relevant is where some administrative tool is needed or would make a difference. (E.g. comments on deleted contribs.) Nil Einne (talk) 14:19, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * My extra face told me. Asking Bellezzasolo to refrain from commenting in situations where his comments will have a negative effect, and encouraging Bellezzasolo to comment in cases where his comment will have a positive effect wouldn't really work; his intention was clearly to be a positive influence. Edward Mordake (talk) 14:21, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I.E. You have zero evidence for your claims. As for your other comments, clearly anyone who is intending to have a negative influence should be topic banned from ANI right away. But many people, both admins and non admins regularly contrib to ANI. Sometimes their comments are helpful, sometime they are not. If someone regularly is unhelpful, they probably should stay away. But even the best of editors are going to make contribs which weren't helpful. The best editors will generally realise that after the fact. But even if they don't, it doesn't mean that someone's contribs are always unhelpful as it's fairly commont hat for a variety of reasons someone is not going to agree that their contribs weren't helpful. The fact that in one single instance someone's contribs weren't helpful tells us very little about whether their contribs are normally helpful. Nil Einne (talk) 14:30, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll post my reply below. Edward Mordake (talk) 14:33, 16 May 2018 (UTC)


 * (EC) In this particular case, an admin was not needed so however we got there, it's a good thing. This doesn't mean excessive commentary is helpful, actually any experienced with ANI are probably aware of how often it isn't. (Although the worst examples tend to be very lengthy back and forths between the people involve in the case.) Unhelpful comments are unhelpful comments whether coming from an administrator or not. It is true it's probably more likely that a non admin will leave unhelpful comments. We just topic banned someone from ANI because of perceptions their contribs were not useful. But I'm sure there are also non admins who's contribs at ANI tend to be more helpful than admins. Ultimately some commentary is often part of the ANI process and whether it's from administrators or not is rarely relevant. And for clarity, I'm expressing no opinions on the helpfulness of the commentary in this particular case, simply pointing out the evidence for you claims are largely not there. Nil Einne (talk) 14:30, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No no, I explained that my extra face told me. My extra face doesn't lie. It has demonic powers far beyond my comprehension. I agree with the rest of the stuff you wrote. Edward Mordake (talk) 14:33, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Your assertion about me not reading the discussion is wrong. I trawled through the entire discussion, and the page history, before I made my first comment. I even looked for removal of personal attacks, which I did not see. I read the discusssion and didn't see a personal attack, which is why I asked for diffs. As I say, those really aren't strong. Yes, calling somebody disruptive can be a personal attack. However, in the context of the talk page of a particular article, I'd take what was written as referring to the article - and 3RR violations are undoubtably disruptive. Both of you violated 3RR. My point was any administrator intervention would fall on both of you. And yes, it looked like I missed your posting of diffs later on due to an edit conflict.


 * If you really feel that way about my overal contributions to ANI, you can always go and propose a topic ban. However, as I'm sure you're aware, you cannot impose a TBAN yourself, nor an IBAN (as you asked of the other user in this case). I only contribute to an ANI case where I do feel that I can help, about that you are right. Of course, there's no good metric on this matter, it's a very subjective issue.


 * Regarding excessive commentary, indeed it's not helpful. Of course, excessive is the crucial word. There have been truly awful dramas on ANI. This wasn't one of them. It went from your accusation to my pointing out of fault on both sides to successful discussion between the two parites. Whether my contributions aided that outcome or not is not measurable. But I do think that it made the atmosphere more temperate for Alduin2000. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  14:52, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I type slowly. Maybe you've read the entire debate on that talkpage before commenting (although it seems unlikely based on what you wrote) but unfortunately drama is rarely restricted to a single place. I don't think you should be topicbanned, no one does. Topic bans are not useful in cases like this. I don't expect you to say: "OK master, I will follow your instructions -beep- -beep-" like a 1950's science fiction robot. Human interaction doesn't work like that. I give my feedback, and all I can hope to achieve is that you'll think about ways to improve. Hindsight is 20/20 and I often find ways to improve my own comments. If I see someone reporting someone on ANI, and I read a single page (which could be the entire interaction between the users involved, or one out of many over the years), chose a side and try to make the "atmosphere more temperate" for that side then I am contributing to the drama instead of helping to de-escalate it. Maybe you should re-read what you actually wrote at ANI; if de-escalation was your goal then you've achieved the opposite. Someone complains about getting insulted and you call reporting personal attacks "harassment", and then you claim they aren't personal attacks, and then you repeat them while claiming they are justified. I am convinced you were acting in good faith, and that means that I assume you didn't understand how your actions would come across. Not all people are very sensitive to that, and if you aren't then you should definitely steer clear of other people's drama on ANI. I have 16 years experience working in IT so I've had to mediate in situations where someone said something in good faith that came across differently than intended many times. If you look at the ANI discussion it is indisputable that that thread would've been better if you hadn't commented. Maybe think about this for a while, and imagine you were in a similar situation, asked for help from an admin, and received those unhelpful, inflammatory and insulting comments instead from someone completely uninvolved who isn't an admin and hasn't bothered reading more than one page (if that). I may be stating the obvious here, but Wikipedia could really use your IT skills. There are too many people who want to jump in on drama they aren't involved in, but there are not enough people who know how to write decent software. Asking someone to leave you alone and stop wasting your time is not the same as an interaction ban and I didn't request one. Edward Mordake (talk) 15:31, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

That being the case, I need a young priest and an old priest.-- <b style="color:black">Dloh cier ekim </b> (talk) 14:54, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Same here to be honest! Edward Mordake (talk) 14:56, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * (moved past outdent) It was clear, when you provided diffs, that there was a legitimate case, I did not repeat anything about harassment after I saw the provided diffs. I did read both the article talk page and the user talk page involved - I went through recent contributions to sort that out. I didn't choose a side, although it may have looked that way. Given the presence of one side, in the form of your contributions, I was playing devil's advocate (or rather, a flawed human's advocate), producing a thread that recognised the erring of both sides. That was my goal. I'm sorry if it looks like I endorsed the personal attacks. I still hold that they're not the sort of comment that gets you a NPA block, although I thought I was fairly clear that they weren't worded in a way that was as focused on your edits as they should have been, per WP:AVOIDYOU. However, at the same time, I AGF'ed those, as badly worded. Maybe it's just that I have quite a thick skin to personal attacks - heck, I left a doozy on this very page. You're fairly new, although  more than your fair share of personal attacks. Again, I was not endorsing the wording used, while trying to AGF them, and kind of had to repeat them to discuss them.  &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  02:12, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I think we understand eachother. If someone is reporting, for example, a robbery to the police then they will usually start with a summary (e.g. "my phone was stolen") and then they explain the full story afterwards (e.g. "So I was walking through the park and then..."). I agree that the personal attacks an sich were not bad enough to block purely based on that reason, but not every single misdeed reported on ANI has to be blockable on its own. People use ANI to vent their frustrations. When someone files an incomplete report on ANI it can be a good idea to neutrally ask for more information, but being very sceptical and accusing someone of harassment because he posted the summary first while he is compiling a more detailed report is not a good idea. Playing the devil's advocate is fun when you are having a discussion with a friend in real life. ANI is not a good place for that. You wrote: "I didn't choose a side, although it may have looked that way" but you also wrote: "I was playing devil's advocate". Unfortunately we are forced to communicate via written text, and fortunately Wikipedia editors are a very diverse group, so we have to be extra careful to avoid unnecessary confrontations based on miscommunication/misunderstandings. I am sure that a lot of horrible drama would've been avoided if the people involved would've been in the same room. Have you checked the job openings at the WMF? Edward Mordake (talk) 09:18, 17 May 2018 (UTC) p.s. That was not a personal attack. Heck, I can call that IP "braindead nazi scum" and no sane person would disagree with me after reading this editsummary. Did you know Wikipedia has an article that explains how to deal with nazis? Pacifism and politeness are generally good things, but there are exceptions to almost every rule.