User talk:BelowTheSun/Archive 1

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May 2020
Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit you made to Gerald Ford assassination attempt in San Francisco, did not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. Mr.Sarcastic (talk) 14:34, 2 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Dear ,
 * Please may I suggest, in the nicest possible way, that you reconsider your intervention above, in this specific case? It would seem you are unaware that is a new editor since 30 April 2020 who has already earned all the new joiner badges. She has recently joined the Guild of Copy Editors and correctly declared an interest in copy-editing the article on Gerald Ford assassination attempt in San Francisco. That article displayed the  template, and the editor quite correctly applied the  template, only to find it reverted by you within a minute of doing so. It seems to me that this was an oversight on your part, and that you appear to have misinterpreted her action as vandalism. Please may I therefore invite you to amend the situation, perhaps by encouraging  to proceed with her original intent to contribute to this article? Thank you for helping her in this way.
 * Thank you also for reading my post in the positive spirit in which it was written, and I am hopeful you will agree to help maintain harmony within our community of new editors, per WP:DBN. Thank you for your time and consideration.
 * With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!) 16:17, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!) 16:17, 2 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for helping me out here, !
 * After receiving 's message on this page, I looked over Gerald Ford assassination attempt in San Francisco and its history again. It appears that several copy editors have already gone through the article, leaving maybe only a few minor points to fix. While I am still interested in copy editing the article, I moved on to Demitoilet, and it may take me a bit to finish that article and return to other projects. However, if the article on Ford's assassination attempt still needs editing once I've finished my current project, I will be happy to return! Pupsterlove02 (talk) 16:32, 2 May 2020 (UTC)


 * You're most welcome, . Thank you for your post, and for your willingness to return to that article whenever you feel like it. I commend you on your enthusiasm and wish you an enjoyable time here at the Wiki.
 * With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!) 16:42, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Copy edit review of Nay Toe
Hi ! Thank you for your participation in the May copy edit drive. I have completed a review of your first article, Nay Toe. It looks like you made a number of good edits that improved the quality of the article. I made some additional edits for grammar (e.g., italicizing movie titles) and word choice (e.g., changing "unidentifiable source" to "anonymous source"), as well as a few changes for neutrality. Please look over my edits and let me know if you have any questions. Thanks again for your work! Regards, Tdslk (talk) 23:15, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reviewing my edits and catching what I missed, ! Looks great! – Pupsterlove02 (talk) 12:50, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: The Lot (album) has been accepted
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Help with moving an article
The article currently titled La Carillon de Vendôme was created under the title Le Carillon de Vendôme (now a redirect) and moved to its current title two years later. The reason given was incorrect gender, but le is correct because carillon is a masculine noun, and the French article also uses le. However, due to the redirect, I can't seem to find a way to move it back to its original title, and I can't tell if requesting a technical move is the solution. Can someone help me out here? Pupsterlove02 talk • contribs 18:16, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Pupsterlove02, I've made a CSD request on Le Carillon de Vendôme to allow La Carillon de Vendôme to be moved - Rich T&#124;C&#124;E-Mail 18:45, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The page has been moved - Rich T&#124;C&#124;E-Mail 20:26, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

The Lot disambiguation
I recently created an article on The Lot (album), and am now wondering if disambiguation for the term "the lot" needs to be fixed. As of now, "The lot" is a redirect to Samuel Goldwyn Studio (as it now goes by that name) and "The Lot" is a minor television show, the article for which also has a hatnote leading to On the Lot. I looked into, especially , but I'm still not sure what the best course of action is. Should I add links for The Lot (album) on one or more of these pages, and if so, which? Or would it be better to create a new disambig page for the term "the lot"? Pupsterlove02 talk • contribs 13:43, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, I suggest the following:
 * Create The Lot (disambiguation), with links to The Lot, On the Lot, The Lot (album), Samuel Goldwyn Studio, and Lot.
 * Change The lot to redirect to The Lot (disambiguation)
 * Change the hatnote on The Lot to go to The Lot (disambiguation)
 * Add a link from Lot to The Lot (disambiguation).
 * Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 15:32, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the suggestions, ! I'll start working on that now. Pupsterlove02  talk • contribs 15:38, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The Lot Radio could be another article to add to The Lot (disambiguation). GoingBatty (talk) 15:53, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, will add that as well. Pupsterlove02  talk • contribs 15:56, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

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Help with copyvio
So I've come across my first copyvio, and it's fairly obvious, but as this isn't my chief area of contribution here on the Wiki, I'm not sure what needs to be done. The article in question is fire museum, specifically the section on Portugal. Not only are the references given not formatted properly, they are primary sources and the first reference is copied pretty closely. The section needs a lot of work and I figure it's best to try to bring this to the attention of someone who has more expertise in this area. Thanks, Pupsterlove02  talk • contribs 16:25, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I've removed the offending content - Rich T&#124;C&#124;E-Mail 16:38, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for the recommendation! I actually considered using it a few days ago (you might be able to find evidence of that in my contributions), but realized that one of the features that made it so helpful, the new right-click menu, prevented me from opening pages in a new tab. I also am still working on gaining counter-vandalism experience, and recently signed up for the CVUA. Once I finish that course, I will probably come back to RedWarn and try it out again! Pupsterlove02  talk • contribs 19:49, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , that's great! Sorry I didn't notice - most people don't realise that all links in the right-click menu to open in a new tab and that you can also disable it in your preferences under the behaviour tab. Keep in touch on how it works for you when you try it again! Ed6767  talk!  19:52, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of The Lot (album)
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Wondering how credible a source is
Hello, I am currently working on finding more sources for The Lot (album). One source I've come across a few times, The Queen Chronology (2nd Edition), is located here. The first edition of this book has been deemed reliable and is even cited on the artist's page (see Roger Taylor (Queen drummer) reference 14). However, the second edition was self-published at Lulu.com. The second edition is substantially different, mostly in that six years passed between the two editions and a lot of content was released in that time. I realize that Wikipedia generally does not accept self-published sources, but I'd also like to use this as a source if I can, as I can't seem to easily find some of the other information in it online. If someone else could give an opinion on this source, that'd be great! Thanks, Pupsterlove02  talk • contribs 22:40, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but you can't ask questions like this using the help me template. Please use the reliable sources noticeboard and, remember please, that no source is considered 'reliable' without considering the context of which facts it is being used to support.
 * See: WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard for more information.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 23:19, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, sorry about that, didn't realize that was where I should've gone. Will keep in mind for the future. Pupsterlove02  talk • contribs 23:24, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

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"Blanking w/o source"
Hi, a source is usually not required for removing content – on the contrary, WP:BURDEN and WP:ONUS explicitly state the opposite. That said, thank you for restoring the content; the user had been doing this disruptively to illustrate a point. Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:35, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * That was a mistake on my part—I had meant to write edit summary instead of source—but thanks for reminding me. Pupsterlove02  talk • contribs 18:39, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry, please disregard the first part of my message then. Thanks again ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:40, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

hello, I added the changes to the map projections, I was getting rid of the link part that was not to real links because the had been removed, so that the red no link thing would go away — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.76.98.101 (talk) 15:59, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * IP, Red links are allowed and don't need to be removed—they can be good at encouraging editors to create new articles. In this case, I would argue that those articles could be created in the future, so the red links should stay until someone can come along and make them blue. More detail can be found in the wikilink. Pupsterlove02  talk • contribs 16:06, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

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You may remember that an IP user was edit warring on Anti-Russian sentiment recently. They restored their edit again after edit warring again and refused to use the talk page, but they decided to make some changes. They use the same sources as before and a couple new ones. One opinion piece by Julia Ioffe, an Estonian news article about what a former president says, a RFE/RL blog (under The Power Vertical) ("The Power Vertical is a blog written especially for Russia wonks and obsessive Kremlin watchers by Brian Whitmore."), and an undergraduate paper. Despite this, I can't find any way in which the sources support what the IP user wrote, pretty much giving a justification of this type of hatred, nothing in these sources say anything about "Russophobia" being "a cogent, realistic appraisal and reaction to the misdeeds of the Russian people across history". Their second sentence is just unsourced. Originally the IP user included some tweets by Toomas Hendrik Ilves as his sources and claimed it was a legitimate source. What do you think about this? It seems like completely OR (from the tweets). I am wondering whether this IP user should just be reported to the admins because I know they are continuously going to edit war (at least with me) and refuse to use the talk page, they have a battleground mentality and now they have resorted to personal attacks in their edit summary with me, because apparently they know that they are right. More annoying their IP address constantly changes. Thanks. Mellk (talk) 15:33, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I've been kinda half-paying attention to this edit war and haven't stepped in only because this isn't a topic area I'm all that familiar with, but now that I've had some time to look through the new sources the IP has provided, I agree with you that the IP's edits fall under WP:SYNTH, and they're not exactly WP:NPOV either. I've restored your version without the IP's addition for now, but this is a little harder to report to WP:ANEW because of the dynamic IP; I'd consider reporting to WP:ANI if you catch them edit warring, particularly if they continue with the WP:PAs. Pupsterlove02  talk • contribs 21:22, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice, I appreciate your help. Mellk (talk) 00:52, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I ended up bringing them to WP:ANEW anyways here. Pupsterlove02  talk • contribs 22:04, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the update. All the best. Mellk (talk) 04:17, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

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