User talk:BenShenton

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Re: Your link addition
Hi Ben,

You're welcome. First-hand accounts, like the one on your website, are certainly appropriate links in Wikipedia. There won't be many of them compared to, say, first-hand accounts of the Vietnam War or the September 11 attacks, so space is not an issue, and I can think of no problem with adding these links.

I can't even begin to imagine what it was like living as a child of The Family. I think it's amazing how you've dealt with those issues and integrated with society. As I gather that you read on my user page, I'm totally blind and probably autistic as well, so I'd be curious to hear Simon's story. It's sad that disabled people are so often marginalised, but we find ways of dealing with it within ourselves. Adversity tends to make people stronger. Graham 87 07:05, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Rescue the Family
Hi again Ben, I've just undone your move of your user page to the article "Rescue the Family", because it is not ready to be an actual Wikipedia article. Organisations are only covered in Wikipedia when they are well-established and have been mentioned in independent reliable high-quality reliable sources (in an Australian context, that would mean several full-length articles about the organisation, not just about you yourself, over a medium-to-long period of time in state/national media). I think an external link to your website in the article about The Family, which you already added, is enough. The relevant guideline is at Notability (organizations and companies). Also, if the article were to be created, you shouldn't be the one to do it, per the conflict of interest guideline. Updating links to your website is one thing, but creating an article is quite another. I for one wouldn't be comfortable creating an article about your org, even if it became notable per Wikipedia guidelines, simply because I've been watchlisting the article about the Family for nearly ten years now. If I were in the position of approving it, I'd want a second opinion before doing so. Graham 87 14:42, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Graham 87 Please reference the two articles in news.com.au that I have added to the page that cite my organisation and it's goal. I'm in the process of writing a book that is almost finished which will then be launched titled 'Life Behind the Wire - Rescuing the Family'. I'm attempting to build a profile here for the organisation that having a page in wikipedia assists in Google creating a panel page for Rescue the Family so I can get it verified and continue to build a presence on the web for a very important outflow of the rectifying the damage done by 'The Family' Please reach out to me with any further advice and help. I trust your experience and guidance in this matter
 * Those news articles are mostly about your experience in the Family, not the Rescue the Family organisation itself. You're looking at the problem of having a Wikipedia article the wrong way; if you or your organisation get a high enough profile, a Wikipedia volunteer will be compelled to write an article about you. It is much better if the process happens organically and without your involvement. I've also moved your user page to the right place, to fix my error from yesterday. Graham 87 08:27, 15 March 2019 (UTC)