User talk:Benjiboi/Archive 19

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Your topic ban
Benjiboi, we're three days short of the one month mark. I've made you an offer to open a thread at WP:AE on your behalf if there weren't any further problems, and there haven't been - in fact I'm impressed with how gracefully you've handled this situation. So three days shouldn't matter; would you like me to open the request to lift the restriction now?

Also, I want you to hear it from me that Matt Sanchez was one of the guests on a Not the Wikipedia Weekly skypecast I hosted today. You might want to listen once it's uploaded; I've opened a thread on WP:AN to sound out the community about the proper way to present the recording. Not the Wikipedia Weekly is unbiased: if you'd like to come on our next skypecast I'd be glad to have you. These recordings are pretty much open sign-ups, but I want you to particularly know that you're welcome to participate. Best wishes, Durova Charge! 01:27, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually I finally pieced together an appeal myself so hopefully that should do it but thank you for the offer. I'm presently avoiding anything to do with Sanchez so will pass on that opportunity. Banje boi  13:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I've been away due to my house having burned down March 21, and just came to know of this issue. Of course, it doesn't surprise me that Durova is involved - Durova is involved in all things Matt Sanchez and anyone can read "biased" in my assessment because that's what I'm essentially saying. After having read the related discussions (or tyranny, depending on how you look at them), your ban is a farce. I will suggest you do as I have done.. remove all things Matt Sanchez from your watchlist. It's a losing battle to keep that article un-biased. They should rename it to Matt Sanchez (FOX News subsidiary). Anyway, chin up Benji, I've missed you terribly! - &#10032; ALLSTAR &#10032; echo 02:57, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've missed you as well and so sad about the whole house fire - yuck! You and yours are in my thoughts and I hope that you get things peacefully sorted out. Fire is a golden opportunity to let things simply go but it can also be traumatizing so I wish you all peace! Banje boi  13:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Allstarecho, although we haven't always seen eye to eye I'm very sorry to hear about that disaster. It's good to have you back (disagreements and all) and I hope you're all right.  Durova Charge! 02:46, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Arbcom moved
FYI: Your arbcom case has been moved to Requests for arbitration/Clarifications and motions. - &#10032; ALLSTAR &#10032; echo 15:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * thank you! Banje boi  16:29, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Heads up
Durova Charge! 15:59, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Administrators%27_noticeboard/Arbitration_enforcement
 * Requests for checkuser/Case/Bluemarine
 * Yikes! Truly the gift that keeps giving. Soon this will all be over. Banje boi  18:48, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

NAMES Project AIDS Memorial Quilt
It's a little strange that this article is in such bad shape, and doesn't even have a project tag. Viriditas (talk) 03:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It definitely should have project tag but I'm not comfortable doing any editing until my ban is cleared up. Feel free to add a tag or ask others to at the LGBT project page. If my ban is reversed I'll be happy to lend a hand there's a few books and at least one documentary on the quilt so there should be enough sources to build a decent article there. Banje boi  11:28, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Are you just topic-banned on one article? Viriditas (talk) 13:03, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Technically, I believe so, although arguably it could be expanded in some fashion. If I can't get the ban reversed I will likely walk away knowing I at least tried. Banje boi  11:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Margaret Cruikshank
Hey, I wanted to thank you for pointing me in the direction of Dr. Margaret Cruikshank (author of The Gay and Lesbian Liberation Movement). Not only does she cover the information I was looking for, but I'm working on incorporating it into the hippie article right now. Thanks again! Viriditas (talk) 08:00, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You're very welcome. Glad I could help. Banje boi  20:47, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Play party (BDSM) (2nd nomination)
Since you have shown an interest in articles on alternative sexualities I would appreciate it if you could voice your opinion on the article Play party (BDSM), which is currently up for deletion. --Simon Speed (talk) 22:59, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, I gave my input. <u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banje <u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">boi  20:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Your topic ban
I'm sorry I've been away from Wiki mostly for a while. Please feel free to email me if you need help.Wjhonson (talk) 09:07, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi, I very much appreciate your support. I've asked for some clarification here and want to see what any possible next steps might be. In addition, I disabled my email to avoid getting more homophobic harassment from the same troll central to this case so will have to consider what my best options are. <u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banje <u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">boi  01:35, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well you might have disabled your email, but I haven't! You can always reach me by my site at http://www.countyhistorian.com by the way. Wjhonson (talk) 02:44, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Chris Crocker
are you chris crocker?Myheartinchile (talk) 01:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Are you? I'll add this to the list of people I've been "accused" of being. (sigh). <u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banje <u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">boi 01:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * questions are not accusations, please provide diffs, as i don't recall accusing you of anything, notwithstanding "twice"! This seems to be disruptive editing to me. Warnings that are unmerited are not very productive, especially when you don't just send a regular non confrontational message first.Myheartinchile (talk) 05:38, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Per your request, in this diff your entire message on my talk page is "are you chris crocker?" A day later on the talk page of the Crocker article you wrote in this diff - "Also you have very serious POV issues since you are Chris Crocker." Crocker, if you hadn't seen it in the article, gets near-daily death threats so I encourage you to cease from accusing anyone' of being Crocker as death threats are not to be taken lightly. <u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banje <u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">boi  20:48, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * LEAVE BENJIBOI ALONE!! HE'S A HUMAN BEING!! :(. Ps: sorry for the vandalism earlier Benji, I'm on a shared connection with an immature brother. 64.230.87.126 (talk) 00:57, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you should register an account. <b style="color:#990066;">Aleta</b> <sup style="color:#0095B6;"> Sing 02:53, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
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Hello, members and friends of WP:LGBT! I'm not one to be writing newsletters, but I miss our cruise director, Miss Julie, and our project is drifting along with a few leaking plugs in the bottom of the boat. Hey, it happens. Every group we join goes through changes. If Wikipedia weren't so interesting it wouldn't also be so frustrating sometimes. And vice versa. More than one Wikiproject has tumbleweeds blowing through it, but this is one that can't afford to let that happen. Even if you pop in to the talk page of the project, you can let us know you're still around.

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WP:LGBT's Role in HIV / AIDS articles
It wouldn't be a proper gay community without a li'l bit o' drama! That's right. If we aren't arguing about something, then we should be asking if we're still queer. Maybe that's for the best, since we know we're still kicking. Our most recent topic is how far the role of our project should go in dipping our toes into HIV/AIDS articles. The main AIDS article was delisted as a Featured Article last month, sadly. (Sending a swift kick to WP:Medicine.) A spirited discussion is available for your entertainment on the WP:LGBT talk page about just how much of HIV and AIDS should we take on. As ever, we'll take your opinions under advisement. We're going to have to, because it doesn't seem to have been settled.

Is Pride POV?
We have a pretty cool sidebar that identifies core LGBT articles. Its symbol is the iconic gay pride flag, much like other Wikiprojects have iconic symbols denoting the topic is a core subject in a series of articles. However, a question recently arose asking if the symbol itself is not neutral. Should a pride flag show up at the top of the article on Conversion therapy? How else would anyone know the article is about queer issues? Is there another symbol that is as widely recognized and that includes all our many splintered facets? At what point do we stop asking ourselves all these questions and just go have a mint julep on the verandah and stop caring?

Harvey Milk and Jim Jones
For the love of all that is holy, no Kool Aid jokes. However, an editor involved in pioneering San Francisco Supervisor Harvey Milk's article has included a section about the late supervisor's support of Jim Jones and the People's Temple. While it may be accurate, there is a Request for Comment regarding how much emphasis the section places on Milk's support in light of his overall political influence on the city, and indeed the rest of the United States. Milk's article is a sad one in more ways than one. It lacks the detail and heart that honors its subject. Anyone want to do a barter with me? I'll bring Harvey Milk to featured status (give me a month or two so I can read stuff), if you do something of equal value to WP:LGBT?? Make me an offer...

Queer Studies is offensive!
The established branch of study known as Queer studies was brought up as an category for deletion because an editor was offended by the use of "queer" in the title. It was overwhelmingly rejected mostly by the usernames I see here on our Wikiproject page. (A clue that I know you are out there, hiding...biding your time...) So, I wish I could congratulate you, but now I'm all confused by my sympathy for the editor who was offended. So, if you're reading this, Moni has a short memory and can't remember your username. Don't be put off by our demonstrative pushiness. Join us. We can always use involved editors.

Lambda Literary Awards
What can you do to help the project out? Be a wiki-fairy, on many levels. There are all kinds of articles that need help. Why, just this morning I removed those ugly wikify and cleanup tags from four articles at random. If you can put  around stuff, you can clean up articles. There's a list of articles that need attention at the top of the WP:LGBT talk page. Or you can start with the Lambda Literary Awards, where the goddess of my altar received a pioneering award, and was "reduced to rubble" by Katherine V. Forrest's wonderful speech. The 20th ceremony of the Lambda Literary Awards, which celebrates LGBT literature, took place in West Hollywood on May 29th. The page needs to be updated with the new winners, to be found on the official website.


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Yeshayahu Leibowitz, Arthur C. Clarke and Bernard Montgomery
Why on earth would someone want to delete material about homosexuality? 'Tis truly a mystery. But these embattled articles have some random evil gnomes removing information that places these folks under our queer umbrella. Help us keep an eye out for the deletions. Take a peek at the articles, familiarize yourselves with the info, and be handy with the undo function in the article history. If tempers flare, take it to the Hall monitors and let them sort it out. Best solution is to make sure your sources are immaculate.

This month's Wiki stars
This is what I get for opening my big fat mouth and suggesting the newsletter should be revived. Here I am writing it. So, to pat self on back (*cough*) Mulholland Dr. became a featured article in May. This is A Good Thing since it is my personal declaration that there is no such thing as lesbian porn. I don't care what Benjiboi says about the video collection at goodvibes. Instead, we have hot women who connect on a deep, personal, soul-touching level, so this film should qualify as some of the skankiest porn available for lesbians. Plus, it's completely confusing and surreal! D'you think Laura Harring would care that the article is featured? I don't think so either... (Call me, Laura!)

Compulsive hoarding of templates
Once I saw a harrowing episode of Animal Planet's Animal Cops where this guy had, like, 250 cats in his house and it freaked me right out. I'm drawing a parallel between 250 cats and, well...three, really, templates in articles involving LGBT issues. Can we stick to one, maybe? In the aforementioned Harvey Milk's article there's a core LGBT template, a link to the LGBT portal, and a sidebar for LGBT rights. Jiminy! You'd think we weren't the folk to set industrial grey carpeting and track lighting in vogue. An LGBT footer was designed to link to articles of interest that aren't the aforementioned core articles. What do you think, can we have either an LGBT template for core articles, a footer for LGBT articles that are high profile but not core, or an LGBT rights template? As ever, anything's up for discussion on the WP:LGBT talk page.

The Violet Quill and magazines
Zigzig20s suggests we create an article on The Violet Quill, as it seems such a milestone in the advancement of gay/queer literature. Members of the Quill all have pages of their own (Edmund White, Christopher Cox, Robert Ferro, Michael Grumley, Andrew Holleran, Felice Picano, and George Whitmore). We need to find more info on the Quill per se to reference the page that we create. Perhaps Google Books - and libraries? - can help.

A number of magazines also need articles, perhaps most notably QW, LGNY, and Lesbian Feminist Liberation.

Mom's nagging for Pride Month
It's June, Pride month. Wear sunscreen, stay hydrated, get a designated driver, then go half-dressed in the streets find a girlfriend or boyfriend, or some homo who's standing there looking lonely and kiss 'em up real good. Remember, it all started 39 years ago when a bunch of drag queens just got fed the f*ck up by the cops raiding the bar and dragging them all out to the pokey again. Rock on, queens! Enjoy your celebrations. My town's is in October, and 200 people attend. I miss Denver.

Fresh faces to brighten our pages
Hey, I've seen you around! Sorry there seem to be so many—it's been a while. But we welcome you all: Cheezisyum21, Taineyah, Dustihowe, Avesta69, RachelSummers77, Vivekgopinathan, AMK1211, Staffwaterboy, Ted Ted, Joe5150, Leahtwosaints, Robapalooza, Arthomure, Confusionball, Affinity likely, PrinceOfCanada, Yobmod, Npd2983, Neagley, Bvlax2005, Bvlax2005, Rhullsf, Textorus, Kieran.casey, Tyciol, Meojive, Sappho'd, Bookkeeperoftheoccult,  Gaywarrior, Aujourd'hui, maman est morte, and Balin42632003.

It looks like we've picked up a lot of talent lately. We have no doubt you'll be making your indelible mark on LGBT knowledge as we know it, here at Wikipedia.

- In the immortal words of Miss Julie, "May all your Wiki days be bright, and may your Love Boat never turn into a Poseidon."
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This newsletter was delivered by §hepBot around 16:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC). ShepBot (talk) 16:11, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

more Sanchez
here
 * . <u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Benji <u style="text-decoration:none;font:98% cursive;color:#8000FF">boi


 * yawn. <u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banje <u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">boi  10:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

crocker
thanks for defending me there, i was acting in good faith and go smacked.Myheartinchile (talk) 23:53, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I actually wasn't defending anyone as much as explaining to you that the incest angle was indeed a hoax. That editor was correct in removing the content as we delete non-reliably sourced negative information about biographies of living people, even the talk pages. If you had asked "I saw a video in which he kisses his brother, why isn't it included" the comment likely would have stayed and been answered. In the end the result is similar but a less confrontational approach would likely be received more readily in good faith. <u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banje <u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">boi  00:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * that sounds like a lot of bull, because what you just suggested i write instead is identical to what i wrote. thats just semantics and i was silenced just because i wrote something in a way that bothered someone else. bah i say! and since you weren't defending me in any way imaginable i take my thank you back.Myheartinchile (talk) 00:40, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Interesting. You may want to rethink how you're interacting with other editors. We work by concensus where often differing opinions collide and we need to work together to sort out how to approach a problem to make the encyclopedia better. One of the pillars we have is WP:Civility because it makes working together work better. Yes, and no, about this example and semantics. Semantically and tone-wise the approach could be less confrontational. Instead of saying Crocker is incestuous you could ask this seems to be the point of this video - is it true. The differences are stylistically much different and likely to get you a more thoughtful and accurate response. <u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banje <u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">boi  00:56, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Have you seen the statement has made on there user page? "Benjiboi is a ripe fruit that bruises easily. When in doubt ask!". Bidgee (talk) 11:02, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, thanks for posting at ANI, I replied there that they copied my userpage so technically it may not be a personal attack but to me it still seems creepy. <u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banje <u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">boi  11:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. Since they haven't changed anything when they copied the user page it could be seen as trying to impersonate you or away of trying to harass you. and yes they can copy as user page as long as it states where it from if I can recall. Bidgee (talk) 11:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * It sure seems harassing but I'll defer to admins to address that angle. Thank you for letting me know though!  <u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banje <u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">boi  11:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

you should add he is from tennessee or i will do it--WillyJulia (talk) 23:49, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The article already has that he's Tennessee-based which is verifiable - as is that he says he's in LA now. <u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banje <u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">boi  00:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * gross this section got mixed with new peoples comments that are really unrelated but still kinda sorta related anyways kudos for your hard work on the "5th anniversary" protests article, wheres the deletion review archived at, i want to read the closing rationale. also sorry for thinking you were crocker after seeing his videos its quite obvious with your intelligence you couldn't possibly be that weirdo.Myheartinchile (talk) 04:34, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I actually think Crocker is pretty gifted and quite gutsy for putting himself out there in such a manner. Intelligence can be found in many forms and he's no dummy in my book. We each learn in our own way and find different ways to express ourselves - he's a performer and a gifted one at that and I think will be appreciated more as others try to copy what he does. Not sure if he'll translate his skills into something more acceptable to mainstream public but time will tell.
 * The link for the archived deletion review is here. <u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banje <u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">boi  10:39, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Feminism Task Force
Hello! :) You might not remember, but you mentioned something about helping out with Feminism Task Force a while back. If your still interested, check it out and add your name under "Participants". I am reviving the task force and the portal. Thought I'd let you know. --Grrrlriot (talk) 04:23, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. Thank you for reminding me! <u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banje <u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">boi  09:12, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Your welcome and thank you for joining the task force! :) Have a nice day and happy editing! --Grrrlriot (talk) 16:34, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You as well! <u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banje <u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">boi  16:36, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

banned?
Why were u banned? (And how can u edit pages if u've been banned) I've noticed ur a diligent editor of our LGBT Studies WP, and u mention homophobia and transphobia in ur getting banned, so I thought I'd ask. I hope u don't mind. (BTW, I was going to delete again that slur on David on our talkpage.) Zigzig20s (talk) 00:57, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Admin Guy (JzG) topic-banned me from Matt Sanchez citing a Morton's Fork, believe it or not, that the subject of that BLP, was distressed by my presence there. I was never warned or cautioned and the trigger incident seems to show I was on the side of reason so the whole matter has done nothing but wasted a lot of time and brought me unneeded wikistress. It has opened my eyes a bit more and made me more sensitive to admin abuse so to that I guess I've learned something. Matt Sanchez, is a former gay porn star amongst other things. He used to edit here as well until he was community-banned for personal attacks amongst other violations. Since then he has apparently been taking opportunities to make his concerns known through the OTRS system regarding myself and other editors. More than all his personal attacks, and what I see as wikistalking of me I find the topic ban stressful as the admin seemed to pride themself on getting people banned and didn't bother to dialog with me to let me know there was any issue involving my editing. Also thanks for watching out for the, possibly related attacks, against David, I hope he finds a way to return as his works have been a huge help to wikipedia. <u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banje <u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">boi  01:13, 6 July 2008 (UTC)