User talk:Benjiboi/Archive 31

DYK for Halloween in the Castro

 * Thank you! -- Banj e  b oi   15:57, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Animal sexual behaviour
add archive and clean. Banj e b oi
 * done. -- Banj e  b oi   22:53, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Xavin
add archive and clean. Banj e b oi
 * done. -- Banj e  b oi   23:16, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Fag stag
Nom for GA. -- Banj e  b oi
 * In process. -- Banj e  b oi   20:48, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Louise Brooks
Thanks for your feedback on this. The editor in question who posted about this has been an issue on several fronts. The article didn't discuss Brooks and her sexuality at first, only briefly covering that she'd been married. I have done some searching and hopefully cleared this up in this paragraph. Apparently this person thinks that if the subject of an article isn't specifically lesbian or gay, then the LGBT project has no business putting the article until its umbrella. I'm not sure what attitude that reflects, but we've tried to address it. Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:22, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Good work - seems fine to me - let me know if you need support on this. -- Banj e  b oi   18:25, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

David Archuleta
FYI, I noticed that no one else lifted a finger to help you with the GA cleanup, despite supporting the article in theory. Your hard work is noticed and appreciated. Jclemens (talk) 21:41, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol! Thank you. I think there were a few assists there but I'm the wanker that nommed and felt I should see it through - pain and pleasure - all in a day's work! -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   21:57, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Your removal of merge discussion on Zeituni Onyango and Family of Barack Obama
I considered it inappropriate and I've reverted it. The only reason we have an AfD is that the original author of the Zeituni Onyango WP:CFORK decided to restore the fork against consensus at that time. Also, his initial version had clear signs of WP:OWN: no wiki-links, but 6 redirects, presumably for the purpose of enhancing google hits for his version; see my talk page for details. Since the AfD seems to be the catch-all for failed merge discussions (especially so on politics and fiction articles), the link from the merge box on Family of Barack Obama properly points to the AfD. VG &#x260E; 03:49, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * We really shouldn't have two discussions at once. Frankly if the AfD doesn't result in a merge or delete then the article should be left alone. I support a merge tag on the families article pointing to the AfD only to keep those interested in the loop of pending relevant discussion but having both a merge and AfD tag seems pointy. If I get inspired i may add a bunch of content that I've been finding as I've tried to vet the current content. -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   03:54, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * We don't have two discussions at once. Like wrote above, the link in the merge template (at Family of Barack Obama) points to the AfD, not to the talk page like it usually does; someone was clever enough to do that. VG &#x260E; 04:23, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I guess that's fine. -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   19:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikilinks
One wikilink per article is enough. Please do not wikilink character names in the cast list for Milk that already were wikilinked in the plot synopsis. 67.79.157.50 (talk) 14:52, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * A well written article actually may have many more than one link. This article is growing and the accepted practice is one link to a particular page per section not article. Instead of deleting material you may wish to contribute to articles instead - it likely will help the project in the long run. -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   16:40, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

RE: References
I did? Where? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 13:29, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * My bad. You moved the refs and some IP removed them, my apologies. -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   22:09, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * On David Archuleta? Yeah, I moved them. It's okay, you don't need to apologize. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 22:54, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Cheers, sorry for the muck-up. -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   22:58, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Zeituni Onyango

 * Replied there. -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   00:17, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Me too. Tvoz / talk 00:26, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK nom
Your DYK Nom needs a reply from you. Thanks. -- Suntag  ☼  19:08, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Zeituni Onyango

 * Thank you! -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   22:48, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Clarify tag on homosexual transsexual
Hello,again. I have reviewed your blocking case and it looks specious to me. In my dealings with you you have been reasonable and fair. I don't see the wrong in what you have done to warrant that. I hope it all pans out.

You placed a clarify tag by "The term homosexual is controversial because these transsexual people identify as heterosexual based on their gender identity." Just what is unclear? Perhaps I am so into the TS/TG thought pattern that I can't see how this phrase confuses. I originally had it read. The term homosexual is controversial because these transsexual people identify as heterosexual based on their subconcious sex."

Would it be clearer to you if I wrote. " The term homosexual is controversial because these transsexual people identify as heterosexual based their mental gender identity as opposed to their birth sex," ?

Thanyou for your cooperation. --Hfarmer (talk) 22:33, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, first it's not a blocking tag - it's just a clarify template - labeling it or me as "specious" is a leap of bad faith. To cut to the chase though, I think you might find language like "labeling transsexual people as homosexual is seen as controversial because homosexuality is traditionally contextualized as attraction to one's own gender; transsexual people are generally considered to be changing gender in some way." Frankly the whole article needs work but that statement was jarring for the confusion it engendered. If it's cleaned up it would explain that some transsexual people change gender and mainstream understanding of their sexuality would follow that their sexuality would change with that transition. ie. One's attraction to males while identifying as a man is seen as homosexual whereas attraction to males while identifying as a female is seen as heterosexual. To most readers, in my opinion, it's moving way too fast and with emotionally charged material. -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   23:21, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Note. Moved from my talkpage to article talkpage. -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   23:25, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I wasn't talking about the Clarify tag. I was talking about you being topic blocked. :-| --Hfarmer (talk) 00:12, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol! I had no idea - thank you for pointing it out. -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   00:19, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Watchlist
Caught up through Oct. -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   03:43, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Ugh. What a piece of work that "guy" is. As you can see the article wasn't in a great place when I got started on it, and after the election the last thing I want to do is edit an article about a homophobe. Glad there are more eyes on it. A ni  Mate  11:58, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, yes, I do feel a bit dirty in the wrong ways. The good thing about stubs is that they're easy to overhaul. -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   12:04, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Rent: Filmed Live on Broadway
Inre this diff... I removed the rescue tag 7-1/2 hours after the AfD closed. Per the in-tag instructions, I had waited.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 07:54, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * In this case it worked out but this diff is to what I referred. The AfD, at that point hadn't yet closed. It worked out though and you did a great job cleaning it up - good work! -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   11:40, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * No... with respects, I was careful... and I paid very close attention to the AfD notice caveat: "this notice must not be removed, until the discussion is closed." The AfD discussion closed as keep on November 11 at 2:35 diff. I removed the rescue tag November 11 at 10:05 (7-1/2 hours later) diff. And I removed the AfD notice from the article when realizing no one else was doing so... on November 11 at 10:38 diff... 33 minutes after I had done the rescue tag. So you see, the AfD discussion was closed when I removed the rescue tag, though at that time the article was itself still (but now incorrectly) tagged. So I removed THAT notice too. Trust that I made darn sure I was not doing a naughty (grin). And thank you for the "attaboy" on my cleanup job. Best,  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 12:08, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I see what you mean - I was only referring to it being removed while the AfD tag was still in place. The whole AfD world is a source of eye-rolling angst so I'm glad you're helping rescue articles! -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   12:12, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Amanda Milan
Great job on this article - the rewrite of the lead solves all of the problems there. Rebecca (talk) 23:18, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It's just a start as there so much more to do. I actually hadn't seen the article but had just posted to the talkpage. When I looked at the article, well, it needed help. -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   23:26, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Fix it
Street Transvestite Action Revolutionaries should be Street Trans Activist Revolutionaries or it was reformed with a changed name. -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj e <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi


 * The historical organisation is the former - I'd never heard of any reformed organisation. If there was one, it's probably a good idea to either write a new article (if notability could be made out) or add it as a footnote to the existing article, but at the old title. Rebecca (talk) 00:43, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Sylvia Rivera reformed it because of the Amanda Milan murder. It's not clear - because I haven't looked it yet - if it was renamed or the name on the present article is a mistake. No worries - we'll get it fixed soon enough. -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   00:54, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


 * It looks like both names are correct. The lede should be fixed and if the group still active it could be moved to reflect that. -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   01:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Watchlist
Caught up through 5 Nov - start at 6 Nov. -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   02:20, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Murder of Amanda Milan
very nice re-write !

I have added pre-op to the article, as you may or may not be aware this is something that has been constantly reverted by rebecca - her comments on this are bordering on the absurd, I really would appreciate some reasonable comments either for or against the use of this term. Sennen goroshi (talk) 03:06, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Pre-op and the statement that she was earning money for sex re-assignment surgery both need reliable sourcing. Not all transwomen are looking to fully transition for a variety of reasons. If we have a source(s) that states definitively then great - if not we may have to qualify it. -- <u style="font-size:12px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   03:45, 16 November 2008 (UTC)