User talk:Benjiboi/Archive 41

Bear Manifesto


Us bears are the guys who danced with the ugly girls in school (before we came out), and who usually were the butt of jokes for the "cool people" who always thought we were dumpy, fat and unstylish, weird, uncouth, geeky and anti-social. We created our own little corner of gaydom because we were tired of being turned away from the figurative door into the party, and we're quite happy with our own party now, thankyouverymuch...it's not that we're "exclusive" or "judgmental", it's that we've been marginalized too much of our lives, and we're not about to be marginalized out of our own bear sub-culture by the "wannabe trendy" gate-crashers...so you've got to prove that you "get" what we're all about. As for being hypersexual, we're MEN who love MEN and who accept that we're men...so what do you expect when you get so much testosterone in one space? A discussion on Cher's makeup collection and a group exercise on toning our inner thighs? If you're part of a culture defined by its sexuality and sexual orientation, there's nothing wrong with embracing your sexuality and orientation - anything less is a cop-out...and really, straight America considers swishy queens to be jokes, parodies, and generally inoffensive and safe; straight American men worry and sweat when they discover that guys more manly than they are really are the cocksuckers and buttfuckers, and we'll kick their asses if they give us any shit! Grrrrr.... - &#10032; ALLST☆R &#10032; echo 23:18, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh my, someone needs a bearhug! -- Banj e  b oi   03:13, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Communication about LGBT section
Hi, you made a suggestion recently on the intersexuality page, and I would like to discuss how this would work. I am sorry to approach you this way, but I am not sure how else to contact you about it. Perhaps you could get back to me, perhaps via my own user pages, so we could talk further. MishMich (talk) 22:51, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:MarinSchoollogo.gif)
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 * File:MarinSchoollogo.png is the reformatted image, I'm unclear why a whole delete process is needed here but go for it if you must. -- Banj e  b oi   00:41, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Chinese-Indonesians
Why the history about Indonesia government killed, raped, tortured thousands Chinese-Indonesians is not talked about in Wikipedia page?! What do you think about "anti-Chinese violence"? http://www.colorq.org/HumanRights/article.aspx?d=Indonesia&x=Reward

 Relly Komaruzaman   Talk   02:58, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that source is good only for background but not as a reliable source. You could start at Sinophobia and see if there is some possibilities there. -- Banj e  b oi   03:12, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reply. Nice to make a discussion with you. I hope you'll give your reply to me directly to my user-talk page.
 *  Relly Komaruzaman   Talk   03:22, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean? I just did reply to you, is there something else? -- Banj e  b oi   03:24, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Friendly advice
If you are planning to actually edit with this, I recommend that you prominently identify it on your userpage. It's the kind of thing certain unfriendly "Wikipedians" would try to use against you in a disagreement. -- Scjessey (talk) 02:23, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * That's some quirk, I don't sock and have asked on ANI to block it. I have no explanation how it happenned. -- Banj e  b oi   02:27, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, that's totally weird. -- Scjessey (talk) 02:47, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Combined with the timing is also way suspect (sigh). -- Banj e  b oi   02:50, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

It's a brand new account, and that is its only edit. I have blocked for 24 hours and suggested at ANI that a checkuser look into it.  LadyofShalott  Weave  02:56, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Someone at wp:vpt suggested a system hiccup but if so it's a problematic one if it's putting under a differeent account name. -- Banj e  b oi   03:24, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, Floquenbeam (sp.?) and DuncanHill have convinced me it is probably a technical foul-up. I have unblocked Palaboys and apologized to him/her. If something else weird happens, let folks know. I'm probably not on much more tonight.  LadyofShalott  Weave  04:33, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Barney Frank talk page
Hi, I just left a message on User:Soxwon's talk page suggesting that if they want to refactor talk posts to which someone has responded they use some mark-up to show what they've added or stricken, or other comments they want to make. No need to get into a dispute, I hope. I haven't tried to figure out what's going on and, frankly, the bickering is so distracting I can't tell and don't want to invest the effort. No opinion on who is causing it or why but there is enough bickering to attend to on other articles... Cheers, Wikidemon (talk) 23:34, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi I appreciate a third party alerting them that the activity is being noted. I used the WP:REDACTED in the edit-summary which offers why we don't do such things and alternatives. They've pretty much takn up CoM's role and have been arguing and misquoting sourcing policies non-stop. Luckily they are building a good case for a page ban but the time has given the article a break and encouraged me to find even more sources so there is at least a silver lining! -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   23:38, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Wikimania Announcement on sign-in page - be gone
I have responded to your message at Village pump (technical).

And I love the rainbow colours at the top of this talk page. And I just have to comment on the Leonard Matlovich text above: I live in Sweden, and some men try to get out of army conscription by stating they are gay. But the Swedish army has no problem with that, instead the army places them in a gay platoon. The reasons for that is unclear, perhaps the army thinks they thus will be happier, or not disturb other men, or not be bullied by other men, or perhaps they believe in the old Greek belief that gay men fight much better together, or probably all of those reasons. Several of my friends served in gay platoons, both in the army and in the navy. Funny thing is that those platoons usually also have about two heterosexual men, of course since those men tried to escape conscription by falsely stating they were gay. :))

--David Göthberg (talk) 15:55, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, we are often our own worst enemies! I've replied to your post there. -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   12:11, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Joke?
For your amusement! -- Scjessey (talk) 19:51, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes but George W Bush was president - twice - so, y'know, stranger things have happenned. And as a direct result the US has Obama now. -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   12:15, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Other edits
Could I interest you in looking at my other suggestions for the Barney Frank article? I don't think you will find them as objectionable as my other one. Soxwon (talk) 23:49, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I've replied on the talkpage. -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   12:16, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Useful link
Maybe? http://www.news-medical.net/?id=20718 - &#10032; <strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">ALLST☆R &#10032; echo 04:28, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Very useful, Bockman's great by the way. -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   12:17, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Happy Easter!
On behalf of the Kindness campaign, I just wanted to wish my fellow Wikipedians a Happy Easter! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 06:23, 12 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much. I'm rather anti-consumerish myself but I do love Martha Stewart and she featured this fab egg-decorating trick with old silk headscarves and ties. Wrapping the eggs tightly with the fabric and using vinegar (*I think*) during the cooking process, the colour patterns will transfer to the eggs and look completely psychedelic. If you must do eggs that's the way to go IMHO. No comment on bunnies except that they're cute. -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   12:22, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

no sperm, just eggs


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RE: Administrators%27 noticeboard/Incidents
I am really troubled and very surprised that you two are arguing, I respect both of you so much. Maybe there is someway to negotiate this? Ikip (talk) 16:06, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You've got to be kidding. Perhaps you've only experienced the best this editor has to offer whereas I've only seen the worst? They've generally made sweeping accusations against me as well as other well-established editors of censorship, homophobia, personally attacking them, etc etc when all evidence suggests these are the actions they are engaged in. They have single-handedly gotten the Frank article fully-protected, twice. I think it's never been fully protected in the past. They've worked to remove sourced content re-added by consensus and replace it with negative material sourced to .. editorials. This is not the editing help any article needs. I only posted at ANI as I was sick of the non-stop edit-warring and accusations, personal attacks from them. Lo and behold, they've had a history of doing the same on the Obama and likely other politically-affiliated articles. Sorry, but I don't see ever compromising Wikipedia's policies on reliable sourcing and civility. -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   17:25, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, I guess I have only experienced the best. My contact with child has been fleeting, with him giving me supportive messages on my talk page.
 * I am not familar with the issue, just sad that it is happening.
 * Happy belated Easter BTW, I hope this resolves itself, so you can go back to saving articles, which is your best talent. Ikip (talk) 18:21, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Well that ANI has been a veritable three-ring circus, which apparently is another trademark of their work. All manner of red herring and sidestepping responsibility has gone on. I would have settled a long time ago with a simple "gee, I guess I should have tried to talk this one out" but as soon as they got a 3rr the claws came out and it has been eye-opening to watch. There is also a good chance of some socks involved although I have no interest to dig through all that. CENSEI got banned as part of this and we at least got a nice documentation of their work so, next time these issues arise hopefully the drama will be quickly stopped. -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   18:40, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Dublin Pride
Thanks for that. I have put the page back on the main space and will update it over the coming weeks. Thanks for the help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Martin-09-DP (talk • contribs)
 * No problem. It looks clear from deletion so now the rest is adding history. -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   16:17, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism
Please observe the overbearing vandalism of already previously blocked user 129.230.248.1, this time to the Moodiesburn article. Duncun O&#39;Leod (talk) 09:42, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * This is a downside of editing but handle it with grace and it should work itself out. Remain polite and if it's clear vandalism just say so, if it's so poorly written but may help the article move it to the talkpage with a note. If that editor is just vandalising fall back on revert, block, ignore and hopefully they will tire. If they are extremely agressive - and really it has to be waaay over the top - you might get semi-protection at WP:FRPP. -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   16:21, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Request for comment re Homosexual transsexual
Talk:Homosexual transsexual If the spirit moves you could you please give your input on this request for comment. --Hfarmer (talk) 03:15, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up, I've commented there. -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   16:38, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

interesting (re Murder of Robert Eric Wone)
Click here and here.  APK  is ready for the tourists to leave  09:27, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Your tax dollars at work. - &#10032; <strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">ALLST☆R &#10032; echo 09:55, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * It's so good to have the DOJ sniffing up one's butt, if only they'd buy a girl a drink with something special or take her to a movie first! -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   16:56, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

A kitten
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:9px;" class="plainlinks"> TomCat4680 (talk) has given you a kitten! Kittens promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Kittens must be fed three times a day and will be your faithful companion forever! Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a kitten, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

Spread the goodness of kittens by adding {{subst:Kitten}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message!


 * Well thank you! I could make some extremely vulgar jokes about already having one or needing someone to stroke it but that would be distasteful so I won't. Instead I'll ... - I'll stop here as I'm only thinking of nasty and adult-oriented impure thoughts. -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   17:00, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

New message of support in your inbox
FYI. Ikip (talk) 06:58, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. I'm not sure I can help there as I don't know that I've had much but passing experience on those issues. When it comes to abuse though it has to be documented and even that isn't always enough. -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   17:03, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Category:Article Rescue Squadron WikiProject
For every category you create, you should specify parent categories to which it belongs. You can do this by listing the parents near the bottom of the page, each enclosed in double brackets like so:

I've added at least one parent to the category. I invite you to check my work for accuracy and completeness.

I am a human being, not a bot, so you can contact me if you have questions about this. Best regards, --Stepheng3 (talk) 18:12, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, we're still working it all out and we have some cats on templates which has caused issues as well. Appreciate the suggestion though, I think pushing into child cats might help the issues a bit. -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   18:28, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a plan. Best wishes, --Stepheng3 (talk) 18:53, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Yea, there other dramas taking front-burner status but feel free to move around things as they seem fit, I know we should have templates as a child cat and maybe one for categories but my main goal is to get the templates cleaned up as it keeps putting users in there and we have a place for members already. Math is hard!!! -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   19:04, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:The good loaf.gif)
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 * FYI because it was replaced by a png version. - &#10032; <strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">ALLST☆R &#10032; echo 23:18, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, this message implies something wrong occurred - aarg. -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   23:20, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Article Rescue Squadron WikiProject
I have nominated article rescue squadron wikiproject for merging into article rescue squadron. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Skomorokh 03:14, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Coolio. -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   03:22, 16 April 2009 (UTC)