User talk:Benjwong/Archive 3

Thanks
Thanks for fighting that vandalizer and troll Da Vynci. His Uncle Tomism is truly annoying, and I'm glad that you're able to stand up to him. AR1997 (talk) 01:18, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I am not taking sides. I am trying to get to the bottom of topic research. Benjwong (talk) 18:11, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Qin er Shi
Question, in our art history class, we learned about Chinese art and the history of it. When we were covering Qin Shihuangdi, our teacher (who is not Chinese) mentioned that Qin Shihuang's son was named Loserson (with an accent on the o). Others have said it's "Lo Se Son."

What is the real meaning? Because he is an amazing art teacher in a highly gifted school, some of the students think that the edits on Qin Er Shi's page was not vandalism.

Is our teacher right (in some sense) or wrong? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.108.164.141 (talk) 01:05, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I cannot find anything on that name. Please don't put it back unless you have some sources. Benjwong (talk) 01:43, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Prawn ball
Is Prawn ball a form of dim sum? If so, it should go in the dim sum category. Badagnani (talk) 21:04, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * More like a home dish. It is hard for me to say this one is popular. Maybe others have a different view. Benjwong (talk) 21:14, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Second right brother
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Hong Kong FAR
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CEnt?
Hi, just wondering if you are still interested in re-tooling WikiProject Modern Chinese music. I hope to once again gather those interested... and maybe get the thing started. =p Skyezx  06:01, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Comment
Hi, perhaps you would like to comment on this. In short, they're vouching for the WPCHINA template to exist everywhere WPHK exists. Dengero (talk) 01:44, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

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AWB
So I guess AWB was effective? XD Dengero (talk) 12:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * AWB saved me alot of time!!! Benjwong (talk) 19:49, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Is it hard/complex to use? I think I might go apply and give it a shot too. Dengero (talk) 01:16, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I have only done simple things so far. I guess it depends on what you do with it. Benjwong (talk) 04:29, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter June 2008
WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter June 2008


 * --Chef Tanner (talk) 17:05, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

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Random Comment
This is pretty random, but I noticed that you're rank 1932 on WP:EDITS. Pretty impressive. =p  Skyezx  (talk) 07:28, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh is the AWB scripts. I am actually taking it easy recently. Benjwong (talk) 23:11, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * But considering you only got AWB recently, you must've had lots even before. xP Skyezx  (talk) 03:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I am not really counting. lol. ;)   Benjwong (talk) 05:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Tibet Article Name
I read the talk page. There was no "vote". All I saw were a million different proposals and one person who decided the name from some journal is final followed by objections. The naming is still quite open to dispute if you ask me. 128.12.57.91 (talk) 05:47, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The vote is in the talk page and archive page. There is no vote result. Yes the naming is still open. Benjwong (talk) 01:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

List of Chinese inventions
Hi Benjwong, haven't talked to you in a while. I read some of your remarks on the talk page for List of Chinese inventions, and I think you'll like the recent improvements to that article. Cheers!.-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 16:51, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That is impressive You got some great sources for those.  You got pics for stuff that I didn't even know existed in wiki.  Are you about to be a professional historian soon?  You seem very fitting for that.  Benjwong (talk) 01:10, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Sausage bun
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2008 in China
I condemn your acts of editing 2008 in China. You deleted a line, claiming that it was POV, without providing any details or arguing why it was POV. No prior information was provided, you deleted a line on your own accord due to what you think you believe in.

The ROC is still China. This article is called "2008 in China", and not "2008 in the People's Republic of China". Taiwan matters are still of Chinese peoples' concern, and thus must be maintained in the article. If anyone wishes against this, then by all means rename this article. China means China. The PRC is China, the ROC is China. Unless the Republic of China renames to "Republic of Taiwan" and revises the ROC constitution, "Taiwan" is still officially the Republic of China. Similarly, by the Constitution of the United Kingdom, all overseas Pacific territories are still "United Kingdom", while the local isles themselves are called the "British Isles". The ROC is indeniably China - the official nationality is Chinese; the language spoken is Mandarin Chinese; the writing system is Hanzi, or Chinese character; the majority race is Han Chinese; the name of Taiwan is Republic of China; the ROC constitution states that it represents all Chinese people; the national anthem refers to the ROC being Chinese; the "guofu" is Sun Yat-Sen, who is Han Chinese. There is very little argument possible to state that Taiwan is not China. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs 03:57, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Calm down. I help edit the Chinese timeline, so I definitely know why you feel that way.  But your edit is POV. Let me explain.  You are technically more correct putting Chris Patten in 1997 in China than Ma Ying-jeou in 2008 in China. Patten managed a legitimate part of China.  Ma Ying-jeou legally still hasn't. Benjwong (talk) 04:33, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * But he is the leader of the ROC, is he not? He is the leader of the KMT, a CHINESE PARTY, is he not? And so he is not significant? Would a pro-independence Pan-Green leader be significant over a KMT leader? This page is a timeline of all that occurs in China - a president sworn in is significant, is it not? Wouldn't you put anything similar for "2008 in USA" for the November election victor? Or who becomes the governor of California? It doesn't matter what he has done; he IS the leader of the ROC. It is the same as Dubya gaining leadership in '00. It would be common sense to put these things in a timeline which is relavant to these. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs 00:51, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * His election took place on Taiwan island. None of it had anything to do with the PRC.  If I am not going to revert the edit is because the page itself is not clear.  It should have been called "2008 in the People's Republic of China". That is something the group should change.... but they probably won't... for obvious reasons. Benjwong (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Historical capitals of China
Hello there! Regarding this edit. May I ask why you've removed Taipei from the Republic of China section, and introduced a new row under the name Republic of China (Taiwan)? You stated in the edit summary that the two aren't the same entity, but why is that so? I think that the two are indeed the same entity, viz. "the Government of the Republic of China" (zh:中華民國政府). This has been so since the 20 May 1948. I do not think that there is a "Republic of China (Taiwan)" officially, even if the name was changed in their constitution, it would still be the same entity, would it not? You may reply here if you wish, I'll check back. Thanks! --Shibo77 (talk) 21:27, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The way you are editing the table is not right. Currently the word Taiwan does not even exist in the article.  Benjwong (talk) 17:16, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for the reply! Why does the table need the word Taiwan? --Shibo77 (talk) 01:45, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * According to the PRC, Beijing is the ONLY national capital of China. They do not share capitals with other countries.  Either Taipei doesn't count as a capital.  Or Taipei counts as a capital for ROC (Taiwan). That is my understanding of the neutrality. Benjwong (talk) 05:08, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello again! Wikipedia strives towards a neutral point of view and not simply that of the present government of the People's Republic of China's. Following the same argument, it can be asserted that the Republic of China is the sole legitimate government of China. Especially true on the 10 December 1949 when Taipei was made capital. The nomenclature Republic of China (Taiwan) isn't official, and according to Google -wikipedia searches, it is less popular than the term Republic of China. Moreover, the Government of the Republic of China has existed since the 20 May 1948 with the capital in Nanjing, and it is this government that has successively moved its capital, finally arriving in Taipei the 10 December 1949. --Shibo77 (talk) 07:21, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The nomenclature Republic of China (Taiwan) isn't official. But it is the only nomenclature that covers all views.  Benjwong (talk) 15:01, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

ITN

 * Thanks for putting it in ITN. Benjwong (talk) 23:54, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter July 2008
WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter July 2008


 * --Chef Tanner (talk) 15:58, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Capital Artists
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capital records
(or whatever the name is :p) in future, please write the entire article first, using preview to check ;) or use a sandbox like this one WP:SANDBOX or this one: Special:Mypage/Sandbox. ninety:one 19:32, 6 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Why don't you add more to the article? Badagnani (talk) 19:33, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol the deletion was a little too fast there. I suppose I could write more. Benjwong (talk) 19:35, 6 July 2008 (UTC)


 * You'd better add more to the article, to prove it's not something you made up. Badagnani (talk) 19:36, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

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 * Free to delete. Benjwong (talk) 01:07, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Birthday noodles
Do we have an article on this? Do you know anything about it?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/xping/1775007703/

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 * Don't know anything about it. Benjwong (talk) 20:18, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

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 * Free to delete. Benjwong (talk) 20:20, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Anita Mui
I'm sorry if you misunderstood the situation, your nomination for GA status was declined which means if you now believe it's up to standard you will need to submit it again as a nominee. However, maybe you should ask for a peer review before then to get others opinions before you submit it again.  REZTER  TALK   &oslash;  19:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok thank you for the review. Benjwong (talk) 00:49, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Fairuse
ahahahahaha! Thankyou for spotting the mistake! I have fixed it :P Looks like I over looked something when I copied her fair use haha. Thanks again ^^ Dengero (talk) 02:20, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Darkprinze
Wow this darkprinze guy fixed a lot of mistakes. I wanna inivte him for the chinese-language entertainment project :P Do you know if there is a template for that? Dengero (talk) 03:16, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You can ask this person (him/her?). I don't think there is such a template. Benjwong (talk) 03:22, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Old Master Q
Hey there, I noticed you removed Old Master Q from Category:1962 comic debuts, and I was just wondering why. I put it there based on the info in the article, but I don't know much about the subject matter so if that's the wrong year I want to be sure to fix it. :) -- hamu♥hamu ( TALK ) 04:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought it was a broken link, no? It shows up as a red link for me. Benjwong (talk) 04:57, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh dear. That was probably me typing it in incorrectly then. I did a whole slew of pages at once, and you know how that goes.  Thank you for pointing it out and I'll see what I can do to get it fixed. :) -- hamu♥hamu  ( TALK ) 05:11, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I restored the red link to that Old Master Q page. I don't know what the right link is supposed to be. Benjwong (talk) 05:14, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've been looking and it seems the entire Category:1960s comic debuts and its subcategories are all missing. Most of what I work with is newer so I never even noticed. I'm off to post a question about it now.  Thanks for noticing! :) -- hamu♥hamu  ( TALK ) 05:22, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

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2008 Olympics
Thanks for splitting the majority of the marketing section into a new article. I've felt for a month or so that the marketing section was too large: it was a remnant of the time when all Wikipedia could report was the preparations for the games – now that the games are about to start, details about the theme song for the 2-year countdown are irrelevant. Bluap (talk) 02:47, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I think you mean "relevant". Probably a typo right? Benjwong (talk) 03:03, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Pastry
You could also just use "baked goods" instead of "pastry" (although "baked" goods" would also include non-sweet breads). Badagnani (talk) 21:07, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I just didn't want to use confectionary.  I am ok with baked goods or pastry. Benjwong (talk) 07:41, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

stalking
 WP:STALK--Certified.Gangsta (talk) 02:27, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You are violating WP:CRYSTAL BALL. Why don't you tell me where I'll be stalking you tomorrow. Benjwong (talk) 02:29, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Peak Reservation Ordinance
The Legislative Council Sitting Record regarding the Ordinance stated "non-Chinese" not European, Non-European such as Indian and people of Middle East origin were allow to reside to the Peak, Kadoorie family was one of the well-known examples.

The Peak Ordnance appears to be racial at first glance, and certainly it has an racial element in it, but if u look into the circumstance of the time more carefully, large part of it also was an effort from the British to evade from a serious public wide-spread plague. And this problem was a real issue in Hong Kong in late 19th century, earily 20th century (i.e. late Qing China era) especially when general Chinese population still had no idea about the concept of bacteria, virus and Pathology. At that time, Chinese still believed pray, worshipping to effigy, and drinking incense ash could solve health problem and rejected western medicine treatment. Cantonese Chinese residential house at the time has no or very small window to ensure privacy in the expense of ventilation and sunlight, which provided excellent environment for plague and bacteria. Furious resistance occurred with the British attempted to disinfect houses of infected persons, thus further made the situation hard to control. This part of the history has been largely left blank in hk history textbook to please China and portray the British as vicious racists.

You need to resist the temptation of repealing negative info about China, and don’t let your judgment affected by your race. Doing so, u will be able to see this more objectively.

As you said, it is history, so let’s the system works and document it. --Da Vynci (talk) 08:17, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I responded in that article's talk page. Benjwong (talk) 21:14, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I did a partial revert, but left the non-Chinese part in. Mostly due to the Kadoorie family as an example. Benjwong (talk) 21:17, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

寿面
Hi, can you help create an article on 寿面 (longevity noodles), which supposedly Chinese people eat on birthdays? Badagnani (talk) 19:41, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No need to create a new article. Longevity noodles is the same as Yi mein. On birthdays people call Yi mein.... longevity noodles and eat longevity buns as a combination.  I was going to make a separate article for it see my already uploaded peachbun picture from a while back, and make make a note of it to Yi mein.  I just haven't gotten around it. Benjwong (talk) 04:12, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

But the name is different--can we make it into a redirect? Badagnani (talk) 04:51, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There I just created the page sau noodle. I haven't actually added anything new to the existing article. Benjwong (talk) 04:54, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks, but the article still doesn't mention the word "longevity." Badagnani (talk) 05:02, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah... I probably won't add anything till I am about to do the longevity/peach bun article. Which is not anytime soon. You are welcome to add all you need for the time being. Benjwong (talk) 05:05, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

But I only just learned about this tradition, and don't know much about it. But apparently "longevity noodles" are an important Chinese tradition, and Wikipedia should discuss it, I think. Badagnani (talk) 05:16, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok I just added a traditions section. Benjwong (talk) 05:26, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks--I see you use the Cantonese name. But is this tradition also found among Hakka, Chaozhou, Hokkien, Fujian, or northern Chinese people, etc.? Badagnani (talk) 05:42, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I think this is a really loose custom, not restricted to any group. Others may be able to provide you more info. Cantonese people generally celebrate it that way.  But certainly not every birthday. Benjwong (talk) 05:47, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Architecture in Hong Kong
Honestly I have no choice but to disagree your edit with the comment "it is just an opening statement".

Exactly because it is an opening statement, it needs to be accurate. Check out the talk page, i provide reasons why I disagree. --Da Vynci (talk) 10:46, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

re: yeah
Don't worry about it. A lot of the olympic articles are slow to load lately, i guess due to their length and the amount of edits being made, but there are plenty of people keeping an eye on them. :) Basement12 (T.C) 18:19, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for reverting the recent edits of vandalism to List of Chinese inventions. By the way, since you commented on my contributions to Timeline of Chinese history before, is there anything from my work at List of Chinese inventions that you think needs to be added to the timeline article?

Cheers.-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 06:33, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It looks good. I am reading it and honestly don't have anything new to add.  I am actually amazed by the sources you have available.  Benjwong (talk) 06:37, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Question regarding image
Hello, Benjwong. Since you uploaded a image of chrysanthemum tea and edited the article, I think you can give me a piece of advice on this image. Image:Korean chrysanthemum tea-Gukhwacha-01.jpg After I named the image as chrysanthemum tea, but I'm not 100% sure of it because the flowers in your picture look different from it. Though there are many types of chrysanthemum tea. Can you check on this? Thanks.--Caspian blue (talk) 13:36, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi, I think the plant in your pic is actually better than mine. Feel free to replace it. Sorry I don't know much about flower distinguishing. Benjwong (talk) 04:49, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the answer. You have uploaded valuable food photos a lot, so I thought you would know the type of the tea....(I've never had chrysanthemum tea in my lift...) If you don't mind, I would replace the picture in the lead, but mine (actually not taken by me) is also other variety of the tea, so I think we can include both of them in the article. Best.--Caspian blue (talk) 15:54, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

ITN

 * Ok thanks. Benjwong (talk) 04:49, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Image source problem with Image:3000WhysofBlueCat.jpg
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 * This edit was undo. It clearly has a source according to the summary. Benjwong (talk) 04:37, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * In relation to your comments -Blue cat image, OK, But it wasn't initally clear from the summary that was indeed the source,

have ammended the summary slightly. Checking for TWINKLE artefacts and detagging. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)