User talk:Benzband/Archives/July 2013

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We have changed the number of suggested articles and which categories they are selected from. The number of stubs has been greatly reduced, the number of articles needing sources doubled, and two new categories added (orphans and unencyclopaedic articles). We have also modified the layout of the suggestions and added sortable columns with various types of information about each article. The first two columns are:


 * Views/Day : Daily average number of views an article's had over the past 14 days.
 * Quality : Predicted article quality on a 1- to 3-star scale. Placing your cursor over the stars should give you a pop-up describing the article's quality (Low/Medium/High), current assessment class, and predicted assessment class.

The method we use to predict article quality also allows us to assess whether an article might need specific types of work in order to improve its quality. The work needed might not correspond to cleanup tags added to the article, since our method is not based on those. We have added five columns reflecting this work assessment, where a red X indicates improvement is needed. Placing your cursor over an X should give you a pop-up with a short description of the work needed. The five columns seek to answer the following five questions:


 * Content : Is more content needed?
 * Headings : Does this article have an appropriate section structure?
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 * Links : Does this article link to enough other Wikipedia articles?
 * Sources : For its length, is there an appropriate number of citations to sources in this article?

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VisualEditor newsletter
Hey Benzband. We've just rolled out a new version of the VisualEditor :). Changes and patches include:


 * Newly added templates now list their available parameters if TemplateData is available;
 * The load for the VisualEditor on apages is now 4 KiB, down from 119 KiB;
 * Feedback dialog is no longer chased off the screen by typing (bug 50538)
 * Fixed the Monobook issues around z-indexes (bug 50241)
 * Undoing an image resize doesn't make everything look bad
 * In the image dialog, "Caption content" is now just "Caption"
 * Tweaked tooltip references to VisualEditor to instead talk about "source mode"

Those are the big ones; more coming at the end of this week or early next week :). It's a short list, but the load issue took up a lot of time, as did TemplateData, and are both pretty big changes. If you've got any questions, drop them on my talkpage. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 01:19, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter
Hey Benzband! We've just deployed some fixes to the VisualEditor. These include:
 * "Edit" will load the latest version, not the version you're looking at (bug 49943)
 * "Edit" will load the latest version, not the version you edited last time if this is your second edit (bug 50441)
 * VE edit section links will load the latest, not original, version in diff view preview (bug 50925)
 * Foo and similar repeated tags will not get corrupted any more (bug 49755)

In the meantime, testing is proceeding well, and hopefully we can get some more fixes out over the next couple of days. If you're interested in helping out, we have a set of open tasks we'd really appreciate your assistance with :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 07:57, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

VE newsletter
Hey Benzband

We just deployed another VisualEditor release; bugs fixed include:
 * Firefox 13/14 has been temporarily blacklisted, to avoid the insertion of broken links ./that look like this (50720)
 * Changing a reference in a template should no longer produce the bright red "you don't have a references block!" error (50423)
 * Notices are now shown if you're editing a protected or semi-protected page (50415)
 * The template inspector will no longer invite you to insert parameters that are already being used (50715)
 * Same as above, but with aliases (50717)
 * Parameter names in the template dialogue now word-wrap (50800)
 * The link inspector will not show in the top left if you hit the return key while opening it (49941)
 * Hitting return twice in the link editor will no longer introduce a new line that overwrites the link (51075)
 * Oddly-named categories no longer cause corruption (50702)
 * The toolbar no longer occasionally covers the cursor (48787)
 * Changing the formatting of text no longer occasionally scrolls you upwards (50792)

Not specific bugs, but other things; cacheing is now improved, so people should stop seeing temporary breaking when the VisualEditor updates, and RTL support has received some patches. I hope this newsletter is helpful to people; I'll send out another one with the next deployment :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 10:06, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

VE newsletter
Hey Benzband! Another set of patches :). Today we have:


 * Required template parameters are now automatically added to new templates (50747)
 * Templates with piped links now display correctly when you alter them (50801)
 * If your edit token expires, you're now informed of it (50424).
 * You still won't be able to save - that's due to be fixed on Monday :).

More on Monday, I suspect. Hope you have a good weekend :). I should also have some news about the IP launch pretty soon. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 13:14, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

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VE newsletter
Hey Benzband; hope you had a decent weekend :). We've got a pile of patches, some of which went out on Monday, some yesterday:


 * If you insert wikitext such as links or section headers, you get a notice in the top right corner (over the save button). It doesn't go away until click, though once dismissed you don't get another one that edit. (49820)
 * If your edit token expires, VE fetches a new one for you so you can save. (50424)
 * If the page is empty of content but does have something non-content (like a category or an HTML comment), VE no longer crashes on load - (50289)
 * sub tags are no longer removed ((49873)
 * If you type at the end of links, they now extend
 * Templates now only take a single click to insert
 * Clear annotations clears links (50461)
 * The link inspector stays open when you click to another item (50895)
 * Typing after multi-byte characters no longer creats pawn icons (51140)
 * Resizing thumbnails that have a default size set now works (50645)
 * References made by tag:ref now display properly (50978)
 * The VE is integrated with the spam blacklist (50826)
 * Feedbacl link goes to the right language (47730)

There are a lot more improvements coming, but that's it for Monday and Tuesday. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 08:17, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for reaching out
I just wanted to see if I can get some help with a page that just got deleted, WHILE i was asking for help in the teahouse. We had the content and were searching for experienced editors to help with the new information. Also it took years to get this person online and he pioneered Open Source to the enterprise level (if it wasn't for him we wouldn't have wiki) etc. Any suggestions would greatly be appreciated! Thanks (Shadesofrespect (talk) 04:24, 20 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi! Only administrators can delete or undelete articles, so if you wish to retrieve the content of the deleted article then we must contact one.
 * If you already have a copy of the article available then I suggest creating a draft (say, at User:Shadesofrespect/Eren Niazi would be fine) so that we can make necessary improvements without risking deletion.
 * The subject must be notable, otherwise the article will get deleted; and the article must be neutral and verifiable, with facts that are supported by references to reliable third-party sources, not original research. Also, if you haven't already, you may want to take a look at Conflict of interest. Regards, benzband  ( talk ) 12:48, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

I contacted kudpung regarding this matter. I have a copy of the article as well as the OLD code, as this person was on Wikipedia for years (in its entirety) from which i was adding information to. The only thing I needed help with was the third-party sources to some additional information added as well as ability to add images for the patents, as he has 6 current. I am actually seeking an experienced editor to hire so we can remedy this as soon as possible. :) So I guess from here I should create the draft to have any editors help with this. Btw, if you are game, would love your help. Just let me know what I need to provide. This platform is still a bit new for me. (Shadesofrespect (talk) 23:01, 20 July 2013 (UTC)


 * From searching on Google I couldn't find any third-party sources, or indication of notability per Notability (persons). Since I haven't yet seen the article though, it would be great if you went to the page User:Shadesofrespect/Eren Niazi then click "create", paste the code, and click "save". I'll see what I can do then.
 * To use an image in an article you first have to upload it to Wikimedia Commons (for images in the public domain or licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike or GNU Free Documentation licenses) or Wikipedia (would be the case for instance for fair use of copyrighted material). benzband  ( talk ) 11:46, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

What I will do is just that, however, I will start by merely pasting the original wiki, PRE-edit, to the create page. Now to go upload the images to Wikimedia Commons as well and then share the draft that I added information from. Also, since you and kudpung can somehow still see the old page that got deleted, where would I be able to find that information, the old article, that is? As there was some light code applied to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shadesofrespect (talk • contribs) 17:42, 21 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm not an admin (User:Kudpung is) so I can't access deleted pages, but I've found a cached version if that's any help (copy and paste the following URL into your brower: http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?d=4869102422854536&w=ucSwjpsTMO-mNl0It_SgpxhO4z0HpdRe benzband  ( talk ) 18:35, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I have also moved User:Shadesofrespect to User:Shadesofrespect/Eren Niazi so as to not confuse the draft with your user page. When you've finished, let me know so I can give suggestions on how to improve the article. benzband  ( talk ) 18:42, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

This link is still extremely helpful, so thank you! Also thank you for migrating the information to the correct page. I wish I had a way to capture all of the content I added when I edited the site. I'm certain User:Kudpung has it and hopefully can help so I don't need to start from scratch again. This wiki world is quite unique, this I can tell you. It's also rather amazing and an eye opener for me. (Shadesofrespect (talk) 19:29, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

VE newsletter
Hey Benzband. The newest updates: Along with some miscellaneous language support fixes. That's all for today; as always, let us know if you spot more bugs. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:52, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Links now don't extend over space/punctuation/workbreaks when you type (51463)
 * Users with the "minoredit" preference set get working functionality (51515)
 * You can tab to buttons in dialogs, including the save dialog (50047)
 * We now show the (or ) message as an edit notice (51459)
 * You can scroll dialog panels like in transclusions' templates' parameter listings (51739)
 * Templates that only create meta-data and no display content at all (like Template:Use dmy dates) now can't be deleted accidentally or deliberately, but still don't show up (51322)
 * FlaggedRevisions integration (49699)
 * Edit summary will get the section title pre-added if you launched from a section edit link (50872)

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We are currently running a study on the effects of adding additional information to SuggestBot's suggestions. Participation in the study is voluntary. Should you wish to not participate in the study, or have questions or concerns, you can find contact information on the SuggestBot study page.

IMPORTANT CHANGES: We have modified the selection of articles SuggestBot suggests and altered the design to incorporate more information about the articles, as described in this explanation.

Note: All columns in this table are sortable, allowing you to rearrange the table so the articles most interesting to you are shown at the top. All images have mouse-over popups with more information.

We have changed the number of suggested articles and which categories they are selected from. The number of stubs has been greatly reduced, the number of articles needing sources doubled, and two new categories added (orphans and unencyclopaedic articles). We have also modified the layout of the suggestions and added sortable columns with various types of information about each article. The first two columns are:


 * Views/Day : Daily average number of views an article's had over the past 14 days.
 * Quality : Predicted article quality on a 1- to 3-star scale. Placing your cursor over the stars should give you a pop-up describing the article's quality (Low/Medium/High), current assessment class, and predicted assessment class.

The method we use to predict article quality also allows us to assess whether an article might need specific types of work in order to improve its quality. The work needed might not correspond to cleanup tags added to the article, since our method is not based on those. We have added five columns reflecting this work assessment, where a red X indicates improvement is needed. Placing your cursor over an X should give you a pop-up with a short description of the work needed. The five columns seek to answer the following five questions:


 * Content : Is more content needed?
 * Headings : Does this article have an appropriate section structure?
 * Images : Is the number of illustrative images about right?
 * Links : Does this article link to enough other Wikipedia articles?
 * Sources : For its length, is there an appropriate number of citations to sources in this article?

SuggestBot picks articles in a number of ways based on other articles you've edited, including straight text similarity, following wikilinks, and matching your editing patterns against those of other Wikipedians. It tries to recommend only articles that other Wikipedians have marked as needing work. We appreciate that you have signed up to receive suggestions regularly, your contributions make Wikipedia better — thanks for helping!

If you have feedback on how to make SuggestBot better, please let us know on SuggestBot's talk page. Regards from Nettrom (talk), SuggestBot's caretaker. -- SuggestBot (talk) 23:46, 30 July 2013 (UTC)