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January 2015
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Disclosures
Disclosing a COI isn't a carte blanche. Until someone has had time to verify that the content is suitable and verifiable, the coi tag should remain. As the person with a COI, you really, really, shouldn't be removing it. Thanks SmartSE (talk) 16:10, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright, fair enough. I appreciate the explanation here. I realize you are the editor who nominated him for deletion last August. I really feel that my entry is neutral and proves his notability, and I have to say I think the tags are unfair. Hopefully someone will come along and properly verify the entry's contents.--Bernie44 (talk) 16:19, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Unless I'm mistaken, this is the only new source to directly address the subject in which case notability is still not certain per WP:42 and I think another AFD is probably necessary. I also think that while the content is reasonably neutral, there is a great deal of superfluous detail that is unrelated to the subject e.g. the current ref 11 which barely even mentions him. Similarly, why include the "In August 2014, Lee flew to Kansas City ..." This is the kind of thing that makes the coi tag necessary. I'd prefer to be certain of notability prior to trying to clean it up though. SmartSE (talk) 16:59, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I can't see what was in the versions that were deleted, so I'm not sure what was in there or the tone of those entries, etc. But since it was deleted in August, there has been some significant new press - along with the Variety article you point out, there was also this piece in The New Yorker and this from the Kansas City Star, among others. Those articles may not be profiles on Swade, but it seems to me there has been regular coverage of Swade's activities since 2012. And as for what you say is superfluous detail, I was attempting to describe what the documentaries are about. I know I'm probably not going to change your opinion, but I have to disagree with such tight scrutiny on an entry about a filmmaker who has made a feature and several shorts that have gained decent coverage, and is now heading the video arm of Rolling Stone. --Bernie44 (talk) 17:30, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

I have revised Swade's entry to make it more concise and neutral - can you please take a look and remove the tags if you agree with me that they are no longer necessary? I see too many entries with notability tags undeservedly sitting there for years, so I don't feel comfortable just waiting around for another user to happen upon the entry and remove the tags. As I said above, we are talking about a filmmaker who has co-directed and starred in one feature for ESPN, is working on another, has directed or produced several short docs, and heads the video division for Rolling Stone, all of which have received coverage in well-known press. Thanks.--Bernie44 (talk) 15:38, 7 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the delay. I still don't think there are any sources providing in-depth biographical content nor anything spectacular like a reputable award. This is the only good new source since the last AFD and while it's an improvement, I'm not sure it's enough to push over WP:GNG. It's definitely on the edge of notability and others may disagree, so I think in the circumstances another AFD is the best option. SmartSE (talk) 21:26, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Transparency as a COI editor
Hi! Disclosing your COI isn't the only think you need to do as a COI editor. Among other several things, you need to be transparent to other editors. You could start by answering some simple questions at Talk:Perforce Software that I pinged at you some time ago.

You need to understand that while you reap the profits for writing the articles, you also induce a cost to the volunteer community of Wikipedia, to review, maintain and potentially fix up your work. Thus volunteers will expect you to be forthcoming and go the extra mile. -- intgr [talk] 09:01, 1 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi intgr [talk] . First off, I'm sorry, I somehow missed responding to your previous questions. I'm responding to them here so there's not a back and forth in multiple places. A few years ago I received some press for writing Wikipedia articles, so people generally find me that way. I have an interest in technology and tech companies, which is why I enjoy working on those types of entries. As for my writing background, I'd sum it up as a serious hobby I guess. I mostly work on films. Overall I feel like I am being transparent to other editors, by disclosing when I'm paid to work on an entry. In general I try to create and revise entries, paid or not, that don't need "fixing up". I understand that other users will at times feel otherwise. I feel like the tag you put atop the Perforce Software page is unnecessary, since I disclosed my COI and you already revised the entry as you see fit. But I hear what you're saying about going the extra mile, and I'll make a stronger effort to do that from here on out. --Bernie44 (talk) 11:45, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Josh Swade for deletion
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Removing coi templates
I see that at Ben's Garden, you've once again removed coi. Your disclosure on the talk page does not mean that there are no neutrality issues that need reviewing. Please do not do this again and if you would like a tag to be reviewed, post at WP:COIN and ask for uninvolved editors to take a look. Thanks SmartSE (talk) 13:02, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll look into taking it to WP:COIN - I didn't know I could do that. Thanks for letting me know. Hopefully that will help get the page a proper review to determine if other users consider it neutral.--Bernie44 (talk) 22:55, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Looking back I was a little blunt before. Sorry about that. Unfortunately it can be difficult to distinguish between ignorance and deception with paid editors and I appreciate you are trying to do the right thing by disclosing your COI which I'm grateful of. You'll notice that I've edited Ben's Garden further to remove the promotional tone, which I hope will guide you in writing neutrally. The product part of Perforce Software needs further editing to make it suitable. Try to briefly summarise what the software is used for, rather than listing all the features and advantages. Language like "integrate their entire" and "expanding Perforce's range by offering new" doesn't belong here. The "In (date)" use in Helix Versioning Engine is rather clumsy. I'd also greatly reduce the last two products in the list as the sources don't look great to me. Note that Forbes contributors are not generally considered reliable sources for content like this. A more compliant section would be a lot shorter than it is currently and would also be chronological starting with their earliest products rather than one released this year. "Customers" sections are also best avoided if at all possible as they are blatantly promotional. I hope this helps. SmartSE (talk) 22:56, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this encouraging note and for your thoughtful edits. I hear you on the Perforce Software products section, when I have some time I'll go in there and make it more concise and remove unnecessary detail. And I will take note of the lack of reliability of Forbes bloggers.--Bernie44 (talk) 02:52, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Eric Boyko


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Speedy deletion nomination of Constantino Mendieta


A tag has been placed on Constantino Mendieta, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Voices.com
It seems like you have some interesting new sources, but on Wikipedia you cannot simply erase prior content in favour of more promotional items just because the company believes things are "irrelevant". I would suggest adding to the page, being careful to source your items properly, rather than trying to whitewash items, etc. Maybe follow WP:BRIGHTLINE for this one if you're having trouble, but I'm sure you can figure it out. Jeremy112233 ( Lettuce-jibber-jabber? ) 15:50, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I really don't understand why you are reverting every single one of my edits. I am not adding "promotional items" or "whitewashing" the page, I am updating the page with relevant and current information. The edits I made are properly sourced. Your blanket reversion of every single one of my edits on the page does not make sense. For instance, I added the current number of employees, with a valid source (CBC News). Why would you revert this? Why would you revert the current rank on Alexa, which is lower than it was? How could this possibly be considered promotional? Why would you revert my correct capitalization of the Android operating system? If you are going to remove or revise certain changes of mine, that's perfectly fine. But reverting every single change? I would suggest that you look carefully at the changes I'm making and change whatever you think should not be there, rather than revert everything I'm doing. And I in turn will be super careful about any additions/revisions I make. Thanks.--Bernie44 (talk) 16:17, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Your most recent edit is fine. Just try not to erase the current sourced content with something else, even if you think it is more pertinent. Then, what you add can be sorted through for what's appropriate or not. Right now you're removing sources, sourced content, and adding up some stuff that shouldn't be there. If you can add your content in a different manner, then full reversion, of course, wouldn't be appropriate--at least in my eyes. Other editors may just revert it if the content's too promotional. Basically, you can't just create a new page that you're client likes better and plaster it over the old one, especially when you are whitewashing out all negative material. It should be fine so long as you keep that in mind. Jeremy112233 ( Lettuce-jibber-jabber? ) 22:52, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I hear you if you feel that some of what I added is overly promotional. But, for the record, I'm not trying to whitewash the page, I'm trying to make it more concise and up to date. After all, it is you not me who deleted pretty much the entire controversies section. Anyways, I'll make some more careful revisions later, bit by bit, hopefully you'll be cool with them.--Bernie44 (talk) 23:18, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, all but that one part that was sourced properly. The rest was vandalism. Hopefully the above helps! Page could stand a bit of growth at the end of the day. Jeremy112233 ( Lettuce-jibber-jabber? ) 23:46, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

For reference regarding client, employer, affiliation
This is from a conversation I had a while ago on the article talk page of Eric Boyko. Since I realize other editors might want to know and it's probably a bad idea to keep important information like this on the article talk page, I thought it'd be good to put it here. If you don't want it here, feel free to remove it (it's your user page, you're allowed to remove almost everything). Just trying to help out by keeping relevant information easily accessible so others don't bother you about it.
 * Thanks - and I also have a notice about this on my user page.--Bernie44 (talk) 18:18, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi! Thanks for the disclosure, it's good to hear about that so other editors can check in to see if the article is neutral. Looking through it, I think it's remarkably neutral for any Wikipedia article. Thanks for your contribution. Since I can tell you're editing in good faith from your contributions and talk page, I'll ask here: in line with the policy regarding paid editing, could you disclose your "employer, client, and affiliation." Anyway, hope you can see this and respond. Thanks! Appable (talk) 05:01, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Appable. I do my best to keep my activities on here neutral and sourced, so I appreciate your assistance. In regards to my "employer", for anything I'm paid to do, it's by the client. In this instance, I was paid by Boyko's company, Stingray. Thanks!--Bernie44 (talk) 13:35, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Constantino Mendieta for deletion
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