User talk:Bertmbc

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The article Path Grant has been reformatted and was suggested to be placed in WIKI source. How do I place it in wiki source?

The piece is in fact a typed transcript of an original recorded deed. The photos placed in the gallery at the end of the piece are uploaded to wiki commons but will not come up.

Note that this piece is the document described in detail in the wiki article Path Grant Deed Bertmbc (talk) 20:43, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Talkback
Dismas |(talk) 10:05, 9 December 2013 (UTC) There are several issues to improve the overall quality of the article and I want to resolve them one at a time.

The article is declared to be an orphan. The solution is to find other articles that can be edited to link back to the Path Grant Deed article. That is not a real problem because there are several.

When should that be accomplished. If it is done before the article is up and running, will the external links work or some how cause problems with the external article?


 * The article is live now, see below :-) So go ahead and make links to it in other articles, and then you can remove that part of teh multi-problem template. Thanks for writing this! Yngvadottir (talk) 21:06, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Your submission at AfC Path Grant Deed was accepted
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Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Path Grant
Hello, I'm not an expert on WikiSource, but if you inquire at WP:Teahouse they should be able to help you get it moved to the right spot. I'd recommend removing the "submit" tag from the top of it now, since that means it's submitted for review as an article (which it is not). So no point having it reviewed as an article, when it is instead a source document which is a totally different project. MatthewVanitas (talk) 19:20, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Teahouse talkback: you've got messages!
I regret that I have been unable to find the answer to my question on the tea house of how to publish an article recommended as an original source on Wiki Source.

How does one make the submittal to wiki source. What is the code?

It is my understanding that  is for Wikipedia only. Bertmbc (talk) 19:46, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: The Watauga Treaties: The Great Grant (March 7)
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Onel5969 (talk) 00:29, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: The Great Grant Deed (March 13)
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Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:02, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Great Grant Deed has been accepted
 Great Grant Deed, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Great Grant Deed
See... all your hard work paid off, another editor just raised the classification of your article to B. B is the highest level a single editor can raise it to. Nice job! Onel5969 (talk) 14:54, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Your draft article, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Path Grant


Hello, Bertmbc. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "The Path Grant".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. JMHamo (talk) 23:59, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Jacob Brown Grant Deeds has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Jacob Brown Grant Deeds. Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 21:09, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

The article Draft:Jacob Brown Grant Deeds should be titled Jacob Brown Grant Deeds. Herewith is some back ground.....

The article in question is one of four proposed articles that together describe the Watauga Treaties of 1775. Two articles concerning two of the treaties are present on Wikipedia and are Path Grant Deed and Great Grant Deed.Both are referenced in the current article. The fourth Article will be the Charles Roberson Grant Deed which is also known as the Watauga Grant and concerns property on the Watauga River. The words Grants and Deeds and Treaties all refer to the same written document that conveys property sold by the Cherokee to in this instance Jacob Brown.

There is a subtitle with the words Watauga Treaties: The Nolichucky Grant Deeds That is intended to indicate that the Jacob Brown Grant and the Nolichucky Grant are one and the same and are used interchangeably.

Further, unlike the other three Watauga Grants, the Jacob Brown Grant has two deeds whereas the others have only one. Since the two properties are adjacent there is effectively only one grant. (is that confusing)

I am anxious to receive your feed back and direction on how to go forward.

Bertmbc (talk) 14:44, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jacob Brown Grant Deeds (January 8)
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RadioFan (talk) 23:03, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

The subject of context seems to me a trap when writing about historical events. When allowing a very broad context, the temptation becomes to then include some interesting topics that might not actually be relevant to the article at hand. It was for that reason that I focused the introduction context on the various events at Sycamore Shoals in March of 1775.

However, your thoughts on a broader context showed me that the reader with no knowledge of the subject would be better able to understand if the context were made broader. The broader context is the historical concept of the American westward expansion. The Jacob Brown Grant Deeds are the very beginning of that westward expansion. I have included some words about the westward expansion at the very beginning and strengthened the similar thoughts at the end of the introduction.

When considering context, a location map would be very helpful along with the words. I have actually prepared such a map that was from Wikimedia Commons noting the precise location of the property in question. It was in the original submission but has been deleted. For reasons I don’t presently understand why it was deleted. I assume it was deleted because I did not accurately deal with the copy right permissions. Since it is from Wiki Commons and very similar to lots of maps on other articles, I will eventually get it right. The link is: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=Jacob+Brown+Grant+Map.png&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go

I am corresponding on wiki commons TALK with the editor OgreBot in attempt to resolve the problem.

Thanks for your assistance Bertmbc (talk) 16:52, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jacob Brown Grant Deeds (January 17)
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Robert McClenon (talk) 19:01, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

It seems that I have erred while attempting to comply with the guidance of two editors.

Accordingly, I have reverted to the original lead sentence that I believe complies with your thoughts on rigidly sticking to the subject which is the Jacob Brown Grants.

I added some new sentences at the intro end that place the Jacob Brown Grants within the context of American historical events in early 1775.

I hope I have thus satisfied both requirements

Thanks for making the submittal title revision.

Thanks for your assistance in improving the submissionBertmbc (talk) 15:09, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jacob Brown Grant Deeds (January 31)
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LaMona (talk) 01:46, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

I have reviewed the article and removed the "essay like" phrases as advised.

Thanks for your effort and guidanceBertmbc (talk) 15:06, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jacob Brown Grant Deeds has been accepted
 Jacob Brown Grant Deeds, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created. The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article. You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. . Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia!  DGG ( talk ) 01:06, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
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draftify
I'm sorry to say that Charles Robertson Grant Deed did not meet the suitable criterions of being kept in mainspace.Keeping in mind the potential of the article and your track-record, I have draftified it at Draft:Charles Robertson Grant Deed.Please use AFC to bring it to mainspace--as in your previously submitted articles.Cheers! Winged Blades Godric 14:02, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Charles Robertson Grant Deed


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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. &raquo; Shadowowl  &#124;  talk  17:24, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Charles Robertson Grant Deed has been accepted
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