User talk:Beshogur

Afghanistan turkestan
The demographic picture is wrong and fake uzbeks are only 9% in Afghanista!!!!!!! Most people of balkh are tajiks stop putting wrong images آفریغ (talk) 07:40, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

ANI notice
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Nourerrahmane (talk) 17:21, 2 January 2024 (UTC)


 * You're pretending like this is some ANI issue. You're falsely changing the date. Original image file source clearly says after 1844. Beshogur (talk) 20:52, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Coat of arms of Lebanon
By the way, the coat of arms of Lebanon is also mentioned in page 64 of the book “Guide to the flags of the world” 71.239.86.150 (talk) 20:34, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Turkey
Hello. my edit to Turkey, as you are entitled to do. Can you state why? I do not intend to argue for reinstatement, but if there has been consensus to use the semi-English long name of Republic of Türkiye in the infobox as opposed to the standard long English name preferred by WikiProject_Countries/Templates it would be helpful to know. Regards, Bazza (talk) 17:59, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Can you check the talk page archives? This had been discussed maybe hundreds of times. Republic of Côte d'Ivoire is also a non-English name. Beshogur (talk) 18:18, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Beshogur: I've looked. See what you mean. I'll add a comment to the infobox entry to dissuade others like me from doing the same again. Feel free to move this conversation to Talk:Turkey, or not, as you wish. Bazza (talk) 19:14, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Beshogur (talk) 20:15, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

East Turkistan Government in Exile
I just noticed that you have moved East Turkistani Government-in-Exile to East Turkistan Government in Exile without stating a reason or proper discussion. The correct wording should be "government-in-exile", not "government in exile".

Sources:


 * 1) https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/government-in-exile
 * 2) https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/government-in-exile
 * 3) https://www.dictionary.com/browse/government-in-exile
 * 4) https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803095901917

Furthermore, when describing a government, the adjective should be used (i.e. the British government, the French government, not Britain government, France government). Hence, it should be East Turkistani Government-in-Exile, not East Turkistan Government in Exile. Vic Park (talk) 01:41, 29 January 2024 (UTC)


 * WP:OR. Did you check how sources use? Beshogur (talk) 12:12, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * That's just bad English grammar. Vic Park (talk) 09:01, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * No it's not. What's even "Turkistani". East Turkistan is not even English, it's Turkestan actually. Beshogur (talk) 12:04, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * It is, bro. The word "East" is English, the word "Turkistan/Turkestan" is a loanword, but it is still English, and its adjective is "Turkistani/Turkestani". Vic Park (talk) 12:18, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * no one uses your example. Beshogur (talk) 12:21, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I disagree. Vic Park (talk) 12:47, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Look, it's my last reply. Beshogur (talk) 16:09, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Bulgars' related articles again.
Hi, sorry to bother you, but would you please take a look at the articles on the Kutrigurs and the Dulo clan. Various IPs have been reactivated with their destructive, biased edits there. Greetings. Jingiby (talk) 12:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Turkish invasion of Cyprus
Hi, you recently reverted an edit of mine relating to the coup, can you please explain why, the coup was executed by elements of Cypriot National Guard,not the Hellenic military, do you have any sources that claim otherwise, if so, may you please present them otherwise that title has to change as it is misleading, maybe "Greek Cypriot coup", "Cypriot coup" or "Cypriot National Guard coup" but keeping it as "Greek military coup" is factually incorrect. ShovelandSpade (talk) 17:11, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Maybe it's because Cypriot National Guard is Greek? Beshogur (talk) 17:32, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
 * It is Greek Cypriot yes sir, but it is not tied to the Hellenic government, which is what is usually meant by "Greek" in these cases, remember, most wikipedians arent too familiar with the history or genetics of Cyprus and its people so someone seeing "Greek" wouldnt immediately assume Cypriot Naitonal Guard, they would assume Hellenic Armed Forces, would you be ok with it being changed to "Greek Cypriot coup" so it is clearer? ShovelandSpade (talk) 18:00, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Güler
Please see here where the matter was discussed. Kante4 (talk) 16:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Please do not bite the newcomers
Please do not bite the newcomers as you appear to be doing on Ahmed I: Daniel Quinlan (talk) 02:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Multiple edit summaries of "rv" is entirely insufficient to explain these reversions.
 * While they are unsourced which is a problem, the edits appear to be in good faith and do not appear to be vandalism.


 * good faith? Those pages are being vandalized since years. And by coincidence, they're same kind of edits. Beshogur (talk) 09:48, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The issue is that your edit summaries are generally inadequate, especially when you are reverting or undoing an edit. Edit summaries that accurately describe changes help explain Wikipedia standards to new editors, help avoid content disputes and edit warring, and they are also helpful to anyone browsing an article's history. Vague accusations of bad faith and indiscriminately throwing around the term "vandalism" don't remove the need for you to explain your edits and be welcoming to newcomers. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 22:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Category:The Sultan of Two Lands and the Khan of Two Seas has been nominated for deletion
Category:The Sultan of Two Lands and the Khan of Two Seas has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Constantine  ✍  20:34, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of edited content at the Sulaiman Bek article
Hi Beshogur, I just wanted to notify you that there's an user repeatedly trying to delete sourced content about the presence of Iraqi Turkmens in Sulaiman Bek. As you are interested in topics involving Turkic cultures, I hoped you might be interested to help solving that dispute. Respectfully, --Ermanarich (talk) 14:55, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

20 April 2024
Please discuss in Talk and gain consensus before making changes to the Northern Cyprus entry under the provision of WP:NPOV. Cfls (talk) 18:11, 20 April 2024 (UTC)


 * It's easy to say "get consensus" while you're the one doing POV edits. Beshogur (talk) 09:12, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Yasuke
You might find this one a little interesting, he's a bit like another Ertugrul. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:42, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Arslan
You did a very good job in Arslan page protecting from vandals but it seems you didn't continue to protect it. The word Aslan or its alternative, Arslan, is a Turkic male given name, not Iranic. You're a Turkish user I believe you can easily reconstruct its earliest form of the word.

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/aslan

2A02:FF0:3316:3ECD:35AE:F3EA:B01D:6E36 (talk) 20:33, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:20th century rump states has been nominated for merging
Category:20th century rump states has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 21:59, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

3rr
Your recent editing history at Czechia shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you do not violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Qertis (talk) 11:24, 23 June 2024 (UTC)


 * You're not even replying to the talk page. Great attitude. Beshogur (talk) 11:27, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Reverted edit on Mahmud II article.
I'm wondering why you reverted my edit on the article since it was properly sourced and an important piece of information. The title Gâvur Padişah for him is well known and I can give more references than just the Independent article if required. AlNiani (talk) 17:39, 4 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I know but it's not a nickname worthy to include. Beshogur (talk) 19:37, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's the goal of wikipedia to decide if something is worth including or not. It's just meant to be an archive which includes any and all information of any relevance on the topic. AlNiani (talk) 21:05, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Are we going to include every supposed nickname? That's not a real nickname and sources claim it was used against Mahmud I not II. Independent is not a reliable source for historical topics either. Beshogur (talk) 07:48, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * See WP:PROPORTION. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:56, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Ultranationalism
Mate, do you have a problem?

Do you use the wolf salute often?

Surely, there has got to be a provision on the "free" encyclopedia to ban non-free (i.e., fascist) users. Gypsybores (talk) 16:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I will report you for personal attacks. Beshogur (talk) 19:10, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * And I will report you for Turkish ultranationalism. Who do you think you are? Gypsybores (talk) 19:41, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Interesting, you are a Turkish far-righter based in the Netherlands or Belgium. And you think you are impartial? Again - who do you think you are? Gypsybores (talk) 19:44, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

== There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Gypsybores (talk) 19:50, 5 July 2024 (UTC) ==

There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Gypsybores (talk) 19:50, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

I have reported you for personal attacks. Gypsybores (talk) 19:50, 5 July 2024 (UTC)