User talk:Betacommand/20060713

Archive 20060713-20060906

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BetaCommand, are you an idiot? You obviously have made no attempt to research the situation whatsoever, if you had you would realise he also has added a lot of stuff to my user page. Also you may have realised that we're pretty close friends, and we do it as a joke. So think again before sending the generic vandalism message, especially considering it is a user page.

--Javsav 23:47, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Wow, you are an idiot.

"The only edit he made move was a comment about WP:NPOV policy, which was a correct statement."

And his comment:

"As this is wikipedia, we try to have a neutral point of view. Therefore, calling someone "LEET" is not acceptable, unless, there are some objective criteria for defining if a user is "LEET." Until these criteria are established, this article does not read like an encyclopaedia, and must be changed"

Oh no, that doesn't sound satirical at all, does it? In fact, here's my msn chat log with the user in question:

[01:40:43 AM] ike - they'r: wanker [01:41:04 AM] ike - they'r: u took out my satire of the dickheads who always criticize me for giving oppinions on wiki pages

Also, the statement is completely incorrect as the user page is not meant to read as an encyclopaedia, thus the NPOV policy does not apply. Therefore you are wrong. Also you apparently have no sense of humour. Oh well? I guess you just suck.

--Javsav 10:43, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Yer, dude, Javsav is actually kinda right. My comment on his user page was a piece of satire, between mates. It was in good humour. I'm not totally familiar with the wiki policies on user pages, but as far as I know, "anything goes" aslong as it's not too offensive. I would have edited out what he wrote on my page, but as I don't really care about the user pages too much, I wouldnt have been in any rush to do so. What were you doing reading my user page anyway? It's hardly that interesting...

--Riff Johnson 11:07, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Betacommand, thanks for clearing that up.

--Javsav 07:16, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually i don't need a 'qick reminder' to watch my comments as some of them 'was' inappropriate, because you already left two arrogant messages in the way of explaining that to me. However, perhaps you need a quick reminder to review your spelling and grammar. Don't tell me to watch my comments, especially when im saying thanks, because in reality, what are you going to do? The chance of you even getting me banned considering the circumstances is very low, and if you did, i really wouldnt give a shit for several reasons.


 * I'm not obsessed with Wikipedia like you
 * I could wait until the ban was over
 * I could change my IP (easily) and make a new account

So there you go. Cheers. --Javsav 02:48, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Welsh-speaking people and Welsh language poets
Hi. Your bot deleted both these categories. The former has only been under discussion for four days and is controversial. The latter was never even nominated for deletion. So I've restored them both. Deb 16:24, 10 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Are you saying that "Category:Welsh-language poets" was nominated for deletion? Please refer me to that nomination. Deb 11:43, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, my mistake. Sorry. I've referred the other matter to the admins' noticeboard now, so that someone else can give a view on what should be done. Deb 16:21, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Did you make a mis-editing?
I got your reply at Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents. However, I could not catch the meaning of your suggestion. And, I realized you did mis-editing probably. Please check this diff. If it is mis-edit, please modify it on your own. I cannot modify to avoid suspicion of vandalism. Thank you. --Questionfromjapan 03:30, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Betacommandbot
Thanks very much for the help with CFD. I noticed on the moves from Category:Batman stories to Category:Batman storylines, your bot was not adding the new category. is one example. --Kbdank71 20:35, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I checked the contribs and fixed them. Thanks again for the help.  --Kbdank71 20:51, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * thanks that was a glitch sorry Betacommand 20:55, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

James Meiskin
It's not CSD as there is assertion of notability. Try prod or AfD. Tyrenius 21:45, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

The sockpuppet template bad substitutions
Why did you subst them all? The template got screwed with in the middle of your run, causing half the pages to have a huge barnstar with a sockpuppet on it. Its not in the list of templates that should be subst'd, probably for the very reason of the template getting messed with. Considering going back and undoing your bot's substing from 16:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC) to 21:55, 27 July 2006 (UTC). Half the pages you subst'ed now look like thisKevin_b_er 00:18, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFBOT
Please see yet another question at: Bots/Requests_for_approvals. Thanks, — xaosflux  Talk  03:32, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Empty categories
Hi there Betacommand. I've just reverted several hundreds of edits to categories that are empty to have them speedily deleted. They all formed part of series of categories that would be broken without the empties. Not all empty categories have to be deleted, and I am quite sure you didn't check anywhere with anyone first about the mass run for your bot. Please do check with somewhere like CfD before making such large numbers of sweeping changes. I read your bot's talk page, and there are several messages there about it doing things that shouldn't be or don't need to be done. Perhaps a lighter touch with thorough discussion beforehand? Generally, it's ok to have a bot that has nothing to do for a while; creating jobs that are largely unneeded can cause problems like this that take many human finger clicks to reverse. I've indefinitely blocked your bot for now, just in case it has a scheduled run of more stuff like that before you've spotted this message and removed anything from its queue of this nature. Please don't think I have actually stopped your bot forever: it's just because I don't know how long it might take to hear back from you, given timezones and all (and my bedtime). -Splash - tk 01:10, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Please see the updated notes at WP:RFBOT. — xaosflux  Talk  02:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

BRFA Template Mode
I've placed the most recent BRFA request (Historybot) in the version we discussed on the talk page. Feel free to discuss (or just revert). I figured I'd tell you. alpha Chimp laudare 16:20, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Venus Butterfly
Hello, I have rewritten this article. I hope you might reconsider your opinion? CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 09:04, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Cat Exclustions

 * See Version 1.0 Editorial Team


 * FA-Class, A-Class, GA-Class, B-Class, Start-Class, and Stub-Class
 * Top-importance, High-importance, Mid-importance, Low-importance, and Unassessed importance

These are the cats for the WP CD project. These should always be excluded. Usually the follow the patten of --Shane (talk/contrib) 03:28, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Look, I'm not ignoring them, I've answered them. Nothing has to be speedy deleted, and there is no concept of "exceptions" to the CSDs as a result. They are simply things that may be deleted, and everything and anything can be exempted if it needs to be. Clearly, the things that have been identified so far, need to be 'exempted'.

I'm not going to provide you with a list of exclusions among the probably hundreds-of-thousands of categories on the English Wikipedia. If you want to run a bot that does this thing, it is for you to determine the exceptions. Which you can do by always checking with the relevant people (ie Wikipedia talk:Categories for deletion) before categorising them for deletion. -Splash - tk 18:30, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

And I don't understand your WP:RFBOT post about "my previous post", since your points A-E were i)not questions and ii)I dealt with those of them that needed any kind of a response already, even indicating to which letters I was responding. -Splash - tk 18:33, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * If you are going to tell me that I cannot read, I'm not going to spend time answering you.
 * I've explained above for the third time how it comes to be that some things are not subject to CSD C1. I trust you have absorbed that information by now. If you have nothing further to ask of me, or cannot ask it without insulting my ability to read, you can get on with running your bot, assured in the knowledge that I will block it when it does something wrong. -Splash - tk 19:13, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

GHe's RfA


Tags
WP:CSD of categories in a series. I noticed you just nominated several categories that are part of a series for deletion, can you elaborate on this? — xaosflux  Talk  01:23, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The categories have been empty for over 10 days thy appear to never have had any thing in them, and it appears that the cats will never be populated so i tagged them under WP:CSD Betacommand 01:54, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Category:1314 BC
I think all the year cats are supposed to exist, even though they mey be empty for a long time. Is it true that will make it leave the category alone? -- ProveIt (talk) 04:14, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Institutions in the Southern Victory (Timeline-191) series
You've reverted the line "Boeing-37" from my edit of "Curtis-37". According to the book (The Grapple) where info for this aircraft is mentioned, "That's a Curtiss-37", The Grapple, page 542.--203.206.251.23 07:18, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi
*waves* -- W h y B e N o r m a l ?  c ·  t  ·  m  05:30, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

New userboxes
I have deleted a userbox template you recently created, as userboxes should no longer be created in templatespace per the terms of the German userbox solution. Here is the userbox code so that you can recreate the userbox in your userspace ("userfying") if you wish.

-- Cyde Weys 14:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

BetacommandBot
Hi. I am looking for a process to automatically add a template to any articles that are in a category. It is for Version 1.0 Editorial Team to add AncientEgyptBanner to all articles that are category Category:Ancient_Egypt. Would BetacommandBot do this, if so what do I need to do to run it ? Thanks in advance Markh 11:45, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Where do you need to add on the pages? if the bot can do it i'll list it on Bots/Requests for approvals and after i get approval ill do it if i can. Betacommand 15:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I would want it to tag the talk pages with the tag. Not sure whether that is a bit tricky? Markh 18:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Real Easy let me make a request on WP:B/RFA Betacommand 04:05, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

New userboxes
I have deleted a userbox template you recently created, as userboxes should no longer be created in templatespace per the terms of the German userbox solution. Here is the userbox code so that you can recreate the userbox in your userspace ("userfying") if you wish.

-- Cyde Weys 14:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Recent bot run for WikiProject Kentucky
Hi, and thanks again for running the bot for WikiProject Kentucky. I just today realized that something happened in the bot run that I didn't really expect or want to happen--category talk pages were given the WikiProject Kentucky template when I had meant only for article talk pages to get it. Would it be possible to do another run where the template is stripped out of all category talk pages that are in Category:WikiProject Kentucky? Thanks. Stevie is the man! Talk &bull; Work 04:53, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response! Much appreciated. Cheers! Stevie is the man! Talk &bull; Work 13:11, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your assistance
in dealing with the zealot who wants to remove all dissenting views that are critical of Bible scientific foreknowledge. The Crow 19:11, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Ancient Egypt
Not true. Israel Regardie for example is not the category Ancient Egypt, neither should be Hermeticism, Hermetica, Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn and other articles which have been tagged. &mdash;Hanuman Das 06:28, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, Category:Hermeticism was incorrectly listed under Category:Ancient Egypt. Could you have your bot remove tags from this cat? I got the ones on my watchlist, but don't want to do them all. I've removed the incorrect categorization. &mdash;Hanuman Das 06:34, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


 * It might be a little tricky b/c one or two of them might be in both categories... &mdash;Hanuman Das 06:40, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


 * two pages not relating to the Project Ancient Egypt has been flagged by the bot: Mesoamerican writing systems and Maya script. I suspect that the bot has a trigger for the word Hieroglyph, but there are Hieroglyphic writing systems than the egyptian one. Please fix. Kind regards. Maunus 09:08, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


 * There are a few oddities, like the above, but THANK YOU very much, this has saved several man weeks of manual adding banners! I am in the process of reviewing some of the tagging, to get rid of the above issues. Markh 16:19, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

May I have another run for WikiProject Kentucky?
Thanks again for running your bot before to help out WikiProject Kentucky. There's another bunch of articles I would like to target using this bot: Articles under Category:People from Kentucky and its immediate subcategories. The same update as before is needed: add WikiProject Kentucky to the talk pages of the articles where WikiProject Kentucky and LouisvilleWikiProject aren't there already. Again, doing this will be much appreciated, and I'll sing your praises to the other project members. Thanks! Stevie is the man! Talk &bull; Work 18:39, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Bot
Re, consider teaching your bot not to subst in talk archives - what's the point? Pages are accessed once in never. - CrazyRussian talk/email 07:05, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

GIen's RfA: Thank you!
'''PS: YES YOU'RE RIGHT HARRY POTTER USES A BROOM! (BUT GOOD MOPS ARE HARD TO FIND!!)'''

04:54, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

subst regex
Hi, the regexes to subst template lifetime are:

regex replace \{\{[Ll]ife(?:time|span)\|([0-9]{4})\|([0-9]{4})\|(.*?)\}\} with \r\n

regex replace \{\{[Ll]ife(?:time|span)\|\|([0-9]{4})\|(.*?)\}\} with \r\n

regex replace \{\{[Ll]ife(?:time|span)\|([0-9]{4})\|\|(.*?)\}\} with \r\n

There is another situation that i havent covered yet because i didnt find any examples of it, i.e. "year of death unkown", but you can probably see how to adapt these regexes for that if needed, if not then let me know. thanks Martin 12:06, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

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Las Vegas Monorail
Why did you revert those edits? They are reported in the RJ and on every Las Vegas TV station. The facts clearly meet WP:V and address the cites needed by the current text. Vegaswikian 19:48, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert
Thanks for the revert on my userpage. Big-time vandal right there. I had to revert him again when I got back home; I wonder what I did to tick him off... -→ Buchanan-Hermit ™ / ?!  01:20, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you for giving me something to, erm, think about for the next several hours. (Oh man... I'm going to have trouble concentrating on anything for the next hour or so... :D ) -→ Buchanan-Hermit ™ / ?!  04:54, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Redirect templates
Hi. Thanks for offering to subst the redirect templates. I have however noticed that some of these templates need to be worked out a little before being substituted. There is also some discussion at WT:R. Is it ok if we delay this work for a while? (Liberatore, 2006). 14:56, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Has this function been approved? It strikes me as ill-advised and is explicitly contrary to WP:SUBST.  Where is the discussion of using a bot to do this? Robert A.West (Talk) 03:10, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Firefox 1.4/2005090806
Hey BC. I noticed in IRC tonight when you left (Betacommand has left irc.freenode.net ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.4/2005090806]")) that you're using Firefox 1.4. As someone who contributes to the Firefox project, I strongly encourage you to upgrade to 1.5.0.6, the most recent stable build. The 1.5 release brought a lot of new features and the 1.5 to 1.5.0.6 branch builds have included a lot of security fixes and preventative measures. You can get download Firefox at http://www.getfirefox.com. If you want, you can join the Firefox 2 Beta here. As someone who tests and contributes to Firefox, I currently use 3.0 alpha releases, but they update daily and are highly unstable. :-P --ZsinjTalk 05:27, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

AfD Nomination: Koji Date
An article that you have been involved in editing, Koji Date, has been listed at Articles for deletion/Koji Date. Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 04:37, 4 September 2006 (UTC)