User talk:Bettynocry

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Thank you for declaring your conflict of interest. That doesn't mean you can write what you like, you must follow the guidance below:
 * you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines for music. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the band, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, logs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the band claims or interviewing its members or management. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls
 * Your first source is coming up as a dead page, but appears to be just a Chicago local site anyway, of not national or global importance, the other refs can be self-edited


 * You don't give any chart placings, awards or similar to show hoe you meet the notability guidelines for music


 * You must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews.


 * Like  they steadily grew in popularity throughout the year


 * There shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.
 * You must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.
 * I didn't check the text, but the image may be an issue since you claimed to have taken it, but it's credited to Conrad Javier with no indication that you are claiming to be him

Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 17:06, 5 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Chicago Reader IS a reliable third party source. I cross checked my topic with other bands' pages to make sure (Meat Wave, Haymarket Riot, Cougars). These examples are less notable in terms of audience size, social media following, YouTube views, recency, draw, and current live activity than xyzxyz. Bettynocry (talk) 17:19, 5 December 2023 (UTC)


 * If you want me to see a message on this page, I will know you have done so if you start it with my username, User:Jimfbleak and sign it with four tildes ~ when you post it. That will send me an alert.


 * Whether Chicago Reader is a reliable source is academic when your link goes to a dead page anyway. Most of the criterion that you have listed as your markers of notability are not part of our criteria, unfortunately, and even on your criteria we have no verified data in your draft concerning any of those things you claim make you notable.


 * The fact that other articles have not been deleted doesn't help you, either they met the criteria or should be deleted as well. See What about article x?. Also note that many articles would have been accepted before the notability guidelines were made stricter Jimfbleak - talk to me? 19:16, 5 December 2023 (UTC)