User talk:Beulah1506

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Geoffrey Cox
Beulah, I note your comment about 3 years work being declared in 2014. I agree politicians should not comment on tribunal or legal cases & agree there is nothing controversial about criminal cases even if the public doesn't appreciate defence lawyers. However Wikipedia doesn't like vague statements -see wp:weasel and wp:peacock, it likes facts. Could I ask you to provide specific examples about civil rights cases? We're probably nearer to agreement than you think. Also please provide a reason for your edits. Regards JRPG (talk) 23:15, 10 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Of course. I hope this is the right way to respond. Cox's chambers web page, to which you refer, cites some of his human rights cases so the citation is correct and did not need changing. It seems to me the changes added balance. Beulah1506 (talk) 21:12, 11 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for a courteous response Beulah, & I had already assumed it was intended to improve the article. Wikipedia requires citations for statements –see wp:V and numbers rather than descriptions of numbers.  Specifically can you get a WP:RS reference for his maiden speech being one of the four best of the parliament?  I don’t doubt what you say  ..but someone else will!  Plan B is to scrap the reference to the vote and give a newspaper report on it or failing that, a link to Hansard.
 * Similarly He has frequently appeared as leading counsel in the Supreme Court or the Privy Council and
 * his practice has also included a wide range of human rights and constitutional cases both in the UK and overseas


 * I’m sure this is correct but it fails wp:weasel hence we should give specific examples.
 * I'm now assuming you know Cox's legal work much better than I do. I have updated the Jubilee line case which although little known is of interest to me because it seems to put a limit on the complexity of jury trials.  If there is a source which says how many Supreme Court cases GC has been involved in ..e.g last years cases or if you can find links to a few existing cases we can say ..amongst his better known cases .. etc.  then that will serve to give readers of flavor of his work avoiding weasel words. In short a better article. Regards JRPG (talk) 18:55, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

hello. yes. But again the chambers site gives examples of his human rights work! "Geoffrey Cox has great experience in human rights, administrative law and constitutional cases. He appeared in the House of Lords for over 400 widowers in their judicial review appeal against the government for equality of provision in survivors’ benefits (Regina (Hooper) v Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (2005) 1 W.L.R. 1681). He has appeared in the Privy Council in appeals involving the right to fair elections (Mohammad v Ahmad (1994) WLR 697 PC), the right to the fair treatment for ethnic minorities in schooling (Matadeen v Pointou (1999) AC 9), the rights to freedom of expression, (Ahnee v DPP (1999) 2 A.C. 294) and freedom of conscience (Marie v Electoral Commissioner (2011) UKPC 45). He has recently conducted an articles 2 and 3 ECHR challenge for a former covert human intelligence source by judicial review of the Home Secretary's decision to exclude him from the U.K." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.161.4.84 (talk) 19:48, 25 March 2015 (UTC)