User talk:Bez1960

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Mark Antony
Hi, I've reverted your changes to Mark Antony, and I thought I should explain why. While the text you removed was unreferenced, your replacement also was unreferenced. Wikipedia cannot include original research; so while your text quoted Plutarch your input was based on an interpretation of this. Ideally you should be referencing a valid resource which states the interpretation rather than inferring it yourself (If there's disagreement amongst historians multiple interpretations can be referenced). In addition, its good to flag (and check for explanations) major changes on the discussion page of the article before removing large swathes of existing texts. Cheers, Clovis Sangrail (talk) 09:14, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi Clovis...I accept what you are saying, but on the other hand, do you not think that the article I attempted to edit should be removed UNTIL it can be verified? Thanks Steve

Actually, I have just been reading through it, and my knowledge of Roman history for that period being quite good, there are only a few reservations, one being the claim that Anthony was going to warn Caesar of the impending assassination on the 15th March. I have read Suetonious and Plutarch's accounts and can find no verification of this. But I can verify that he did learn of the assassination from Trebonious when Caesar returned from Spain but did not report it to Caesar...Plutarch paragraph 13. Could I edit that bit? With no interpretation of my own, of course.


 * Hi, feel free to edit where ever you feel necessary. I actually have no opinion either way on the content - it was just the big change of content without external sources.  If what you stated was correct and can be supported, then it belongs in wikipedia.    While you are technically correct and we shouldn't include any material without direct references, there appeared to be some concensus on the text and are some sources at the base of the page that may be supportive of the text(Which someone may hopefully convert to in-line text references eventually).  On pages like this before I make a big edit I'll often put a note on a discussion page or ask a question of one of the major contributors on their talk page to get an idea of why things are the way they are. Given that, you are encouraged to improving on that and removing misinformation (although it helps to reach some concensus with other major editors on the same article.)
 * So, in the spirit of Wikipedia, a perpetual work in progress, feel free to make all the edits you feel are necessary. Keep up the good work! Cheers Clovis Sangrail (talk) 03:31, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

(Oh, one thing more - if you put four tildes "~" after your changes on talk and discussion pages it adds a dated signature there)

Many thanks Clovis, I appreciate you taking the time to explain things to me, I like Wikipedia, it gets some bad press, but I have defended it by explaining that although anybody can edit it (which people are naturally suspicious of), they do have to verify the information first. Thanks again. Steve
 * The problem with wikipedia is anyone can edit it. The best thing about wikipedia is that anyone can fix it..  I think there's some really good information here, although rarely edited articles are often lower quality (Although you also have to put up with a little bias - such as most articles on dog breeds describing their dog as less aggressive and better with people than all other breeds.). cheers Clovis Sangrail (talk) 00:03, 10 March 2010 (UTC)