User talk:Bhadani/Archive15

Kama & Artha are lower Purusharths is a wrong statement.
One could say for deploring Kama & Artha as lower Purusharths. It could have been said, just to make people move to Dharma & Moksha. Lot of Sanyasees try to deplore Kama & Artha, particularly Jain Sadhus try to create hate in the minds of people living family life.

Does one not need money to do one's religious duties or support Sanyasees or Brahmins or religious institutions? Krishna has said in Srimad Bhagawad Geeta that "Kama" is my "Vibhuti." In Hindu doctrines "Kama" is supported confining sexual pleasure with one's wedded spouse in the witness of fire (A form of God), Brahmin and society. Is it possible to conquer "Kama" by any average person? Vishwamitra also sliped. When Krishna declared "Kama" as Krishna's "Vibhuti" who are we to deplore "Kama"? Indian has n' number of Sanyasees. With due respect to Swami Bhaskaranandji, I say that anything said in a particular situation or a context should not be incorporated in an article like Wikipedia which shall remain on a public forum for a long long future. Hope everyone will see the damage being done to Hindusim and restrain from continuing with statements deploring 4 pursuits of life. Swadhyayee 14:40, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

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 * If required, I shall come back with my comments. Thanks. --Bhadani 13:30, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Very First Global Community Barn Star
Hi, Bhadani, I am proud to present to you the very first Global Community Barnstar in appreciation of your committment to building a global community of editors. --BostonMA talk 16:21, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you! --Bhadani 13:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh my, this looks flattering. &mdash; Nearly Headless Nick  {L} 10:23, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * You can say that again.. this barn star looks awesome --Incman|वार्ता 21:21, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Re:First edit day.
Gracias, Senor. - Mike | Talk 01:57, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Welcome, Friend! --Bhadani 02:00, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Easy to do that when I'm online ;-). - Mike | Talk 02:01, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Kadambini Ganguly
Thanks. I have entered it in Did you know. I hope it does not get technically debarred. -- P.K.Niyogi 04:25, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey!!
Yeah.. long time.. --Incman|वार्ता 21:18, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Userpage vandalism
Thanks for reverting my userpage! Fe e zo (Talk) 21:41, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Stop defending Americans, they wouldn't remember if they ever throw the bomb on India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.78.242.91 (talk • contribs)
 * My dear 200.78.242.91, please try to understand that we are a global virtual community. Once you understand this, all foolish thoughts (like the above) shall depart from your mind and heart. --Bhadani 13:49, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFAr
I'm not sure whether you have already been made aware of this or whether you are acquainted with the religion-based edit wars that these users are part of. But I urge you to make a comment on WP:RFAr. Sockpuppetry, I believe, is not the main issue of this case and is instead a simple medium which BhaiSaab is using to get rid of Hkelkar and defame Bakasuprman in the process (some suggested Bakaman is Hkelkar's sock but that was soon rebutted).  Noble eagle   [TALK]  [C] 04:09, 6 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Rama's arrow and Sir Nick have told me to try and not have an "us vs them" thing, but that's exactly what this RFA is. Its a cheap trick by anti-Hindu users to get rid of users sympathetic to Hindutva. Certain opportunists (cough**cough** you know who) have jumped on the Hindu user-bashing bandwagon.Bakaman Bakatalk 05:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Our procedures and processes are not infallible and are susceptible to misuse too (sometimes). I have seen one of my friends charged and indefinitely blocked (after hardly 10 or 12 innocent and normal edits) as that administrator suspected that user to be a sockpuppet of a particular user already blocked: I learnt that some administrators are astrologers too! I have repeatedly told this incidence several times, and this proved to me a point: our system is subjective in many cases rather most of the cases. Had that user been not so blocked, he/she would have proved at least ten times more productive than users like me. Having experienced this and having said this, I should surely feel an attachment to wikipedia to be "fooling" around! Perhaps there are many amongst us who do not want wikipedia to emerge as the best encyclopedia as its emergence would threaten many established encyclopedias. Naturally, such elements amongst us shall always try to drive away the good and reliable editors, at least they shall try to annoy them to reduce their productivity. However, this should not be a cause for despondency and disappointment as I had found that good editors would survive in the long run. At the same time, you should also understand that the Indian nation has remained a subjugated nation for more than 1000 years, and any resurgence of Indian national pride attracts attention, mostly adverse, and people may try to defame this national pride by connoting various names to it like Hindu fundamentalism, Hindutva and so on. Some had even gone to the extent of comparing this resurgence with National Socialism to gain confidence of certain social groups! In case, I feel like giving any input in the said WP:RFAr, I would surely do - however, I am not sure of myself to be useful in such "serious affairs" of wikipedia as I am a simple editor to take part in serious business of wikipedia. I thank you for your message. Regards. --Bhadani 14:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)


 * If only I was so articulate as you.Bakaman Bakatalk 23:28, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Anyways, 4 votes have been cast on "accept" so the gauntlet has been thrown. We will see what ends up happening. Its nice to see that the valued contributors have strongly censured the trolls, though a few snakes still roam around in the jungles of wiki.Bakaman Bakatalk 23:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

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 * I am thinking of a world full of pigs!

ALL INDIANS AND HUMANS PL. APPEAL TO MR.TERRYJ-HO IN STRONGEST WORD FOR HIS SUCH COMMENTS ON TALK PAGE OF Dmcdevit. Swadhyayee 14:21, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
The practice of Sati continues till this day..mostly due to religious sanction TerryJ-Ho 11:16, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Mr.TerryJ-Ho, If, your above statement is intentional, you are doing the worst thing of tarnishing the image of our country. I do not know your back-ground. Hope you will appreciate that sentiments of any person get hurt when his/her nation/religion/societies come under false attack. How would you feel, if so done to you? India has a population of 120,00,00000. I have completed 56 years in this country and sufficiently informed about things going in this country. I have moved in villages regularly and live in Mumbai from birth. I have hardly heard of one or two instance of Sati during my life of 56 yrs. You can't help the people who wants to self immolate. We have rich & poor, educated and un-educated, modern and orthodox, good and bad all kind of people like any other country would have. Sati Pratha came in social practice because of Muslims invaded small kingdoms, killed or captured males, raped and made women folk their wives. Indians mostly were strict vegetarians. Muslims are non-veg. The women preferred death over being raped or marrying for the second time against Hindu culture and customs. The pride of woman-hood and un-civilised behaviour of Muslims are the route cause of this deprecative social system. Though people like me who borned later are also full of wounds of the root cause of Muslims behaviour. Pl. don't make fun of our pitiable social system which do not exist anymore from more than 5 decades. You shall make yourself and your society a shame for such remarks. Can you show me a single evidence that the system of Sati exist and the roots are our religion? Where did you get this information from? You are a shame Mr.TerryJ-Ho. God will not forgive you for such in-human behaviour. Swadhyayee 14:16, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

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ALL INDIANS AND HUMANS PL. APPEAL TO MR.TERRYJ-HO IN STRONGEST WORD FOR HIS SUCH COMMENTS ON TALK PAGE OF Dmcdevit. Swadhyayee 14:21, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

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 * LoL, many people do not know much about India and so let us forget such silly remarks about Sati, and continue to add value to the Project. --Bhadani 14:58, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I am at work..Will reply later TerryJ-Ho 16:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Work is Worship. Actually no reply is required. It is fine. Please do not waste your valuable time. I am sure that you also agree with your words. --Bhadani 16:26, 6 November 2006 (UTC)-->

O Canada

 * Reference

O India! Land of our ancestors Your forehead is wreathed with glorious garlands! As your arm can bear the sword, It can bear the cross; Your history is an epic Of the most brilliant feats. And your valour, in faith steeped, Will protect our homes and our rights; Will protect our homes and our rights.

Perhaps no wikipedians should object to India singing a national song like above. --Bhadani 16:02, 6 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I prefer Jana Gana Mana personally. Anyway, I was thinking about the Get Well Soon thing posted up there and it gave me an idea of bringing Gandhigiri to Wiki. Civility is more important than what some people may think. Anyway, it's a small idea at the moment, I'll get back to you sometime in the next couple of weeks.  Noble eagle   [TALK]  [C] 04:13, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Ununderstandable
You write comments but don't want them replied - then you want to remove what you writeTerryJ-Ho 17:11, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Hello friend. In case, you feel offended, I regret. --Bhadani 02:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi Bhadani
Dear Bhadani

Thanks for your encouragement. I am new to Wikipedia and still exploring its features. I have updated lots of images and also released them for public use. These images were taken by me. I have uploaded one more stub "Haridas Mundhra". Do visit this page.

anavadiya 04:33, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Bhadani -- can you speak Newari? or Nepali? hindi at least?
I wanted to have your simple living and high thinking in newari wikipedia too. I understand you have the right to disappoint me. =P -- 202.161.131.76 09:00, 9 November 2006 (UTC) (aka Kushal_one)
 * Nice to meet you. I have visited Nepal, but I do not know Newari. Thanks for the compliments. Regards. --Bhadani 14:10, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Hello Kushaljee. Hindi is my mother tongue and I have a good command over Hindi. Frankly, I feel equally comfortable in Hindi as well as in English. What can I do for you? --Bhadani 14:21, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for answering. new.wikipedia.org is a new wikipedia in Newari. How can I get more volunteers to contribute? Please give me some suggestions on what I can do. One more thing, may i email you? 20:55, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Sure Kushaljee. You may e-mail me via the links at the side bar on the left side. Please remain in touch. --Bhadani 02:44, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi Bhadanji, your exceptional newcomer has become an admin!! Thanks a lot for your support and encouragement all along. Its been quite sometime since you were fully active here. Hope all is well and hope to see you in action soon! -- Lost (talk) 12:19, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I congratulate you on your achievement and wish you all the best! So many things are in mess here that I feel disgusted and disappointed and as such I have reduced my activity here as no one would like to waste time in foolish discussion. However, I am still hanging on and I am sure that the Project shall continue to improve and attain still higher levels. Moreover, I have some real life working commitments which have also forced me to reduce my presence here. I thank you for your concern and once again wish you all the best. --Bhadani 14:19, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks
Hi Bhadani, I am very thankful to you for supporting and comments on my succesful RfA. Shyam ( T / C ) 06:46, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Tony Blair page vandalism
Hi, I saw your warning to User:Adamcisme123 on vandalism - he severely attacked the Tony Blair page earlier - can he be blocked? Thanks. MarkThomas 14:18, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

why emperor?
why? --BostonMA talk 19:41, 12 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Nevermind. I see he was once an emperor.  --BostonMA talk  19:42, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Me? Having no mind for sure: . --Bhadani 19:52, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey Bhadaniji
Hey, I found some evidence for Hkelkar's page but thought you would like to also know about how TerryJ-Ho has described Hinduism as a Culture of Hate. I feel offended by such remarks.  Noble eagle   [TALK]  [C] 04:34, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I thank you for your message. Some people would always create a lot of noise on a number of issues. We should not care for such small things and keep into view the ultimate: to build the Project. --Bhadani 20:50, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Please do not get offended and please do not get disturbed for such acrobatic writings. I find them (the comments and writings indicated by you) to be highly funny and expression of ultimate frustration. I also think of jokers in a circus :) while reading such creative and imaginative stuff! I would request you to feel and think like me instead of getting stressed. --Bhadani 21:00, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Bangalore meetup 1
Hi! Congrats to you guys for organising such a meetup. Keep organising more. --Victor 23:46, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you. In fact, we should have more meets like Bangalore Meet in other parts of India. I shall surely make it a point to attend such meets as and when held unless exceptional circumstances of real life may prevent me from attending such a meet-up. We should organise such meets at least in metros like Mumbai, Chennai, New Delhi, Kolkata and other bigger places. We should also try to establish a Wikimedia India Chapter. --Bhadani 14:21, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Meetups like these brings the virtual Wikipedia to the real world. Establishing a Wikimedia India Chapter is a very good idea. It'll help providing a platform for like minded Wikipedians. Cheers! --Victor 16:52, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

thanks
Hi Bhadaniji - thank you very much for your support and guidance. You are a role model for every Wikipedian. Btw, I noted that you may be upset about certain problems Wikipedia is facing. Please don't consider leaving (or becoming inactive) - the problems are not as serious as the growth of the encyclopedia in the right direction. If you like, take a break or so but don't leave! If I can be of assistance for anything, just gimme a buzz. Thanks again, Rama's arrow  03:16, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I thank you for your note of encouragement. Niravjee, actually I am not leaving as such - I know as the community grows, new challenges would always surface. This is not a problem as we are the most resilient virtual community, capable of neutralizing any challenges. For last few months, I have remained generally inactive for all practical purpose though I am not completely inactive. I shall surely like to continue and would certainly become more active very soon. I do not find any necessity to take any break as I do not feel stressed any more - Wikipedia is rather de-stressing! Regards. --Bhadani 03:28, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Gah, he can't leave Wikipedia, Nirav. He's addicted. &mdash; Nearly Headless Nick  {L} 09:00, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I may not be exactly addicted - I feel excited to participate in the noble cause initiated by Jimbo Wales (the founder and the president of the Wikimedia Foundation) and his team. --Bhadani 14:24, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Reference
Response is still awaited:


 * Questions:Sam Blanning - since replied.
 * Questions:FloNight - Since replied

Issue with an editor
Hi there Bhadani. Recently there has been an user Aftab Kiran whose contributions are limited to just 3 topics, Operation Polo, Nizam and Hyderabad State. He seems to revert to his POV version of history which isn't backed up by references and despite other editors reverting his edits, he continues to revert. I've spoken to him, but he has behaved in an uncivil manner abusing me as being one of those who destroyed the Babri Masjid! I hope you can either block him or semiprotect those pages to avoid his editing because he's consistently coming back for last 2-3 weeks to revert. Idleguy 04:05, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * My reply copied from his talk page: Forget him - Hello. I am talking to you after a long time. Forget him: . In case people find that one destructive, he/he shall be suitably dealt with by someone. I find that taking any action is of no use as our processes are not capable of dealing with such destructive edits, if any! Thanks. --Bhadani 10:59, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello
Hello Bhadani, Belated Diwali greetings. I am now active. :) =Nichalp «Talk»=  05:59, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Great: . --Bhadani 11:11, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * ze Zimbo doesn't reply to my emails.  :( </tt> &mdash; Nearly Headless Nick  <font color="black" title="Admin actions">{L} 08:47, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I think he replies but may reply after few days or weeks - it depends on many factors - I do believe! --Bhadani 11:03, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Kiruba shankar
You may know more about the guy listed above. A single-purpose acct is trolling and afding a bunch of India related pages see Ed.del.bs's contribs. Bakaman  Bakatalk 00:19, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Our processes and our systems allow such foolish things. I feel helpless and shall not intervene and waste my time. Thank you. --Bhadani 15:21, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * In my humble opinion, Indian editors are not expected to edit India-related pages! --Bhadani 15:25, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * For References: and  --Bhadani 05:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Thankyou
Thank you, Bhadaniji. Hope you are fine. It is a long time since we talked. I was actually busy in real life for a few months because of family matters, but it is slightly better now. Makes me wonder how you find so much time for Wikipedia ! Tintin (talk) 09:38, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Of late, for real life work commitments I too find little time for wikipedia, and sometimes wastage of time in useless issues and discussion has made me reduce my presence here as I do not want to waste my time with the those who edit here with an agenda. Ultimately, the wiki-community shall take care of them and they shall be exposed and continue to get exposed. Having said this, I may add that I shall continue here on a long term basis as I know ultimately all will understand the futility of wasting time in useless issues and discussion. Moreover, adding to the sum total of human knowledge is an interesting pastime. I manage to do little edits somehow despite other commitments. Please remain in touch. Thanks. --Bhadani 09:46, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Anti-Brahmanism

 * Just a heads up, the anon guy just vandalized it again .Hkelkar 09:44, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism
You undid a change to the Little Mermaid (Disney) page and put back links to a porn site that i had removed (but not placed there in the frist place). Please remove them yourself if you dont want others removing them.
 * I regret. I reverted my edit - I think it is fine now. Please do not take offense, it was inadvertent. Thanks. --Bhadani 18:29, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Hindu Barnstar


For you contributions to Hindu Mythology.--D-Boy 19:02, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I love this barnstar. --Bhadani 19:39, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Requests_for_arbitration/Hkelkar/Workshop
Since you commented on me on the talk page, this may be of interest to you. Bakaman  Bakatalk 20:29, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Fine. I will try to have a look, if possible. --Bhadani 14:13, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:George Bush & Manmohan Singh On India Today Cover.JPG)
Thanks for uploading Image:George Bush & Manmohan Singh On India Today Cover.JPG. I notice the 'image' page currently specifies that the image is unlicensed for use on Wikipedia and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable under fair use (see our fair use policy).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr.) 01:41, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I thank you for your message. I thought to use the image somewhere. However, it seems that right now it is not possible. As such, I request you to kindly delete the image for the time being, if required I will upload the same again. Regards. --Bhadani 14:16, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Renaming a Category
Hi Bhadaniji, how are you ? Recently, I came across a category called Category:Government of Mumbai. Actually, I feel that the title of the category is incorrect, as no such thing exists as the government of Mumbai. I feel the category should be renamed to "Governance of Mumbai". Someone had already raised the point on the talkpage. But noone renamed the category. I am not too familiar with the process of renaming categories. Can you help me on this one ? Thanks, -- N R S | T/M\B 17:38, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with your point - there is no such entity as the Government of Mumbai, and perhaps it should be changed to Governance of Mumbai. However, we may see the names of similar categories, if any, for other metros like Kolkata and Chennai. Most likely, the redundant category will have to be deleted after complying with the procedure. A reference to Nichalp should be useful. I am doing this by cutting-pasting these exchanges on his talk page. --Bhadani 18:57, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
 * But, I found many Category:Government by city and some of them may be having their own governments too. --Bhadani 19:02, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for looking into the matter, Bhadaniji. And yeah, it seems many of the other cities may be having their own government. We'll not hasten the renaming. Should I post this at the Indian Noticeboard ? So that other editors may also have a look ? But the noticeboard doesn't seem to be much active. I had posted a message there sometime ago. But no messages after that. Anyways, let's see what Nichalp has to say about this. Bye for now. Take care. -- N R S | T/M\B 05:12, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I've replied on my Talk. <font color="#0082B8">=Nichalp <font color="#0082B8">«Talk»=  05:40, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi!
Hmm... Relocating to Pondicherry... Me thought u were relocating to Calcutta at one point of time. Nice to see you on the wikimeet with Jimbo. I also have noticed that u have spoken to Dore Chakraborty? Any updates? Regards, <font color="#0082B8">=Nichalp <font color="#0082B8">«Talk»=  05:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Nice to see you on my page after trillions of years. Yes, you are right - I wanted to be shifted to Kolkata due to proximity to my home town Ranchi. But, this did not happen. Pondicherry is a nice place and I think that my transfer there should turn out to be great! It would be greater :) indeed if we could organize a meet of Indian wikipedians anywhere in India. I would surly love to attend. I am reporting for my duties at Pondicherry on Monday, 27th November, 2006. --Bhadani 06:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)