User talk:BhagyaMani/Archive 12

Happy New Year, BhagyaMani!


Happy New Year! BhagyaMani, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

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 * Belated Happy New Year - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:28, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank YOU, and I wish a Happy New Year to you too: stay healthy !! -- BhagyaMani (talk) 08:32, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Pallas's Cat
Too many habitat images. David notMD (talk) 11:09, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Pallas's cat
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DYK nomination of Pallas's cat
Hello! Your submission of Pallas's cat at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Moscow Connection (talk) 06:28, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Javan tiger
It is illogical. Wessing wrote that ''In the past the tiger was a rather common animal in Java. In 1822 the area between Panarukan and Banyuwangi in East Java abounded with them ... The opening of the forests for plantations in the mid-nineteenth century resulted in the in-migration of thousands of laborers from Central Java and Madura ... As a result the number of tigers declined drastically''. At the end of the 19th century, it was not such a widespread beast. I didn't find it in the book (Seidensticker, 1987). OJJ (talk) 09:05, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * As far as I remember I added an url to the book chapter by Seidensticker (1987), and according to him it was still widely distributed on Java until the end of 19th century. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 09:09, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Seidensticker: Two hundred years ago the tiger ranged over most of the island, and as late as the 1850's,tigers were considered a nuisance in some populated areas. Maybe I'm reading wrong. OJJ (talk) 09:18, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * He also wrote that bountying started in the 1830s, but large-scale hunting at the beginning of the 20th century to onset of World War II. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 09:51, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I think it's better to mention the 18th century. Since the 1850s, colonization and agriculture have become threatening factors... The chronology needs to be adjusted, the data are not chronological (end of 19. century, 1850, 1940)... OJJ (talk) 10:20, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Red Fox
I noticed that you deleted the IP user's contribution about possible domestication. The abstract he cited does seem to support this: "human intervention in the feeding of dogs and some of the foxes". I'd agree that the citation formatting is poor. I'm quite happy to do the legwork to sort out the formatting if it would help, or is there some more fundamental reason to distrust the original article? Regards, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 12:25, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The article doesn't support the claim that "middle bronze age people ... domesticated foxes" although it does show what could be interpreted as a commensal relationship or the beginnings of one. The article doesn't go this far, though. When discussing the presence of the buried foxes it says the "presence of these wild animals [the foxes] creates a problem of interpretation as to their potential commensalism with humans". I think the finding should be included but the statement should be something the article shows or concludes. Perhaps "Archaeological evidence suggests a possible commensal relationship between foxes and middle bronze age people in North East Iberia". Something about the burials and common diet could be added. —  Jts1882 &#124; talk 13:13, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for looking at article, I only had access to the abstract (because I'm not forking out £30). Martin of Sheffield (talk) 14:47, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * You won't have to pay for the pdf : it is available for download free of cost at https://www.academia.edu/download/63583477/_Dogs_foxes_bronzeage_CR20200610-97400-jz6wab.pdf -- BhagyaMani (talk) 15:46, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * FYI, that's a 404. I'm currently exploring Academia.edu though and may well join up. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 16:20, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Link works for me. —  Jts1882 &#124; talk 16:25, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Weird. I get a 404 message "Oops! It looks like you're in the wrong aisle.  We're sorry for the confusion. We're currently working on it. In the meantime, feel free to browse the restricted section."  Do you have to be logged in to view perhaps? EDIT: Yes, that was the problem, it works now I've signed up and logged in.  Thanks all. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 16:45, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * 404 message happens at academia, sadly. try https://www.academia.edu/download/63583477/ or search for the title inside academia. academia makes only temporary download links available, i.e. after end of session, link doesn't work any more. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 17:30, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Another option : go to > https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=Dogs+and+foxes+in+Early-Middle+Bronze+Age+funerary+structures+in+the+northeast+of+the+Iberian+Peninsula%3A+human+control+of+canid+diet+at+the+sites+of+Can+Roqueta+%28Barcelona%29+and+Minferri+%28Lleida%29&btnG= then you see the link to pdf. when I click it, I get this temp url : https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/63583477/_Dogs_foxes_bronzeage_CR20200610-97400-jz6wab.pdf?1591781801=&response-content-disposition=inline%3B+filename%3DDogs_and_foxes_in_Early_Middle_Bronze_Ag.pdf&Expires=1612031762&Signature=Cc4rzJJY2hFplzPb1U-zYNOUszCbosblZgX22jNPJgnjZxAiUi9fMu3F~feRFOko2BFKWdb-O8PYsVrMk9qfkv4yt7KBFWKsdKHrGhmx8oqppBbQRyHn2my0bKYstslWQf5rjBAm~Wd6xOqefDw64dYpaDu9H7ZZoEwTBQbE7IfmN9Pjw0LCbs8iTPQqFsZ1GEOTWbQe5czngb7Uspsgd0TToVzcCwnO0yw94KLk~1IS3zdtZZ3lbmimP7SMz3qi90x0fGATUYhJ44aZFBAyz9Nsp-Eeb56dxAl4KtTUh9M9SUqAC6sO628k-C32QIFu4nHZCG9o7dcoeMO7ykSciA__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJLOHF5GGSLRBV4ZA, but you may get a different one. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 17:39, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Warning
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Points to note: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. --jpgordon&#x1d122;&#x1d106; &#x1D110;&#x1d107; 22:28, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
 * Aye. Thanks for your message, --jpgordon. I'm aware that you are obliged to send me this. Please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Animals, and perhaps you can give us an advice. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 06:02, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Cats
We may be experiencing some "disagreement" with each other at Pallas's cat, but I respect you and your work. You spent a good amount of time at Jaguar, making specific, well-reasoned edits and supplying informative edit summaries. I strongly disapprove of someone reverting all of your careful edits in one revert, without even bothering to provide reasons or an edit summary! That is a frustrating experience, as I know very well!!! I did re-add one sentence regarding comparative bite force, adjusted for body size, and an introductory sentence under Culture. I have just been able to find an archived source for the "source as given" for the Olympic mascot, but it doesn't support the info, so the citation needed tag is appropriate....I will look for a source for this minuscule bit of information. Best wishes,  Tribe of Tiger Let's Purrfect!  09:59, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Iberian lynx
Hello there, On yesterday I made an edit on the Iberian lynx page, which you have reverted. However, I just realised that I made a mistake there. Nontheless I think giving the information (a monotypic species, thought to have evolved from Lynx issiodorensis) twice in two paragraphs is redundant. In the current form, both informations are stated twice, once in the introduction and once in the sub-section on taxonomy. I tried to fix this unsuccessfully, but I still think this sitution needs improvement. greets, -AndersenAnders (talk) 16:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Jaguar
You think you could update the "threats" section? There's a "needs update" tag there. LittleJerry (talk) 20:14, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes. And can you help to replace the refs to news and anonymous websites by RSs ? -- BhagyaMani (talk) 22:40, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll try to replace cite 70 but I'm working on beaver. ? LittleJerry (talk) 03:39, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , I am more of a copy editor. I can rearrange sections, largest body part to smallest, or by chronology, and rewrite unfortunate prose, but I am not a research scientist. Although I do read references, and thus occasionally  discover errors. See Deployment of COVID-19 vaccines TP "Mistake...Moderna". Sadly, even this minor work is not always well-received. See TP Pallas's cat. I doubt you would want to work with me. Sorry I cannot assist you!  Tribe of Tiger  Let's Purrfect!  07:46, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

African golden wolf
Thanks for your revert. You might choose to add your voice to mine concerning this edit at the bottom of here.William Harris (talk) 08:26, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
 * You are welcome! I'm following the ANI. This guy seems to be full of opinions, but with little knowledge and diligence for sourced info. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 08:52, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Not all of the predators here on Wikipedia are contained within the articles :-) William Harris (talk) 21:26, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Illustrated Checklist of the Mammals of the World
Have you seen this?

Illustrated Checklist of the Mammals of the World (Lynx edicions)

It's the mammal equivalent of the Illustrated Checklist of the Birds of the World, which came out as an update after the completion of the HBW volumes. As the HMW volume on carnivores was published a decade ago, this has a more updated taxonomy.

The reason I mention this here is that the genus Leopardus is one of their example pages in the preview (see Leopardus species illustration) and recognises 13 species, including five colocolos and three oncillas, and provides vernacular names. I think this counts as a reliable secondary source, which could be useful. —  Jts1882 &#124; talk 13:44, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks!! Do you know, on which publication the Pampas cat subspecies are based? I'll ask friends in South America what they think of this. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 13:54, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * You mean the split into five species? I assume that is Nascimento et al (2020).
 * Incidentally, the introduction (available at Researchgate) includes a taxonomy that uses Feloidea for Felidae and Prionodontidae. This has been in Wikipedia articles for some time, but this is the first time I've seem it in a reliable source. —  Jts1882 &#124; talk 16:12, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Gharial
A sincere thank you for your work on bringing gharial up to GA. One of my favorite animals, and it was a very interesting read. Cheers, Ovinus (talk) 20:12, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Happy that you are happy!! Is my favourite reptile too, ever since I joined gharial folks on kayak expeditions. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 20:23, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Panthera pardus tulliana in Wikispecies
Hello BhagyaMani, Would it be better if you completed the changes in Wikispecies as you have more knowledge about it and experience there than me? Chidgk1 (talk) 12:07, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Recent edit reversion
In this edit here, I reverted some information that appears to be a violation of our copyright policy.

I provided a brief summary of the problem in the edit summary, which should be visible just below my name. You can also click on the "view history" tab in the article to see the recent history of the article. This should be an edit with my name, and a parenthetical comment explaining why your edit was reverted. If that information is not sufficient to explain the situation, please ask.

I do occasionally make mistakes. We get hundreds of reports of potential copyright violations every week, and sometimes there are false positives, for a variety of reasons. (Perhaps the material was moved from another Wikipedia article, or the material was properly licensed but the license information was not obvious, or the material is in the public domain but I didn't realize it was public domain, and there can be other situations generating a report to our Copy Patrol tool that turn out not to be actual copyright violations.) If you think my edit was mistaken, please politely let me know and I will investigate. S Philbrick (Talk)  12:43, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I moved these statements from the page on Javan mongoose, admittedly without checking whether they violated copyright. I'm sorry for that. But the small Indian mongoose is indeed recognised as a separate species Herpestes auropunctatus, distinct from the Javan mongoose. So not all of the content that I added to that page violated copyright, such as the speciesbox with references to resp. IUCN Red List, and content in the section Taxonomy with refs to 19th century publications. Therefore, I suggest to reinstate the page withOUT the ref to www.thainationalparks.com. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 12:55, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hey User:Sphilbrick: I only now had a look at www.thainationalparks.com, and am very sure that the webmaster of this website copy-pasted the entire text from this wiki page, but omitting the references; see also the statement at the end: This article uses material from Wikipedia released under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike Licence 3.0. Eventual photos shown in this page may or may not be from Wikipedia, please see the license details for photos in photo by-lines. I had contributed content to this page's Taxonomy section between Dec 2019 and Feb 2020, see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=932990834, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=940466886 and following diffs up to 17 Feb 2020. Please let me know how to solve this problem. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 11:08, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , Please remember to identify the source of the material in your edit when copying within Wikipedia.
 * This type of edit does get picked up by Copy Patrol and a good edit summary helps to make sure we don't accidentally revert it. For future use, would you note the best practices wording as outlined at Copying_within_Wikipedia? In particular, adding a link to the source and the phrase "see that page's history for attribution" helps ensure that proper attribution is preserved. I restored your edit. It is not too late to add the attribution. See Copying_within_Wikipedia which explains how to do so. S Philbrick (Talk)  13:50, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Super + thanks!! Just added WP:ATT. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 15:26, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Super + thanks!! Just added WP:ATT. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 15:26, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Pampas cat confusion resolving?
I found this recently- link it looks like there might be some resolution to the whole how-many-species/subspecies debate. Although that does depend on how it is received. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 02:31, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Amazing that its only now formally published in print (accepted 31 March). We've discussed it before and the paper is already cited in the Pampas cat article. The five species are now recognised in the ASM's Mammalian diversity database (or use this easy link to my fork of their github site (which opens the taxon tree). —  Jts1882 &#124; talk 07:52, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Uncited jaguar line
Perhaps you could find a source for the second paragraph of culture and mythology (Olmec were-jaguars). LittleJerry (talk) 00:53, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Aah, your watchful eyes !! This escaped my notice. One more ref? -- BhagyaMani (talk) 11:01, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Noah 💬 19:13, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Userpage protection
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 * Oh thank you!! It's been more than a year or 2 since the last one tried. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 19:38, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

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FT & GT
Greetings. Did you know that featured topics and good topics are a thing? I found out recently and was wondering what your opinion on how difficult it would be to bring the Neofelis articles up to GA level: Neofelis, the two species, the two subspecies of N. diardi, and possibly the Formosan clouded leopard. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 21:03, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hey + thanks for your message! Yes, I know. You may know that I brought the Clouded leopard page to GA already. Re Neofelis: may not be that difficult for GA. But re Sunda CL subspecies + Formosan CL: I think, the available sources are too few for GA at the mo. But I have 2 other pages in mind for GA: Leopard + Snow leopard. Would you be interested that we work together on them ? And then next on my list are pages on some other small wild cat species rather than on subspecies. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 21:18, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I think that the amount of sources doesn't matter as much for Good Articles as much as how comprehensive the article is, but I see your point. Neofelis and other genera articles are ones I've rather wanted to see brought to good article for a while, though.
 * As far as working on Leopard and Snow leopard for GA, I'm not exactly the best at writing from sources, but I am good at copy-editing and other work on phrasing. I'd be happy to help however I can, though. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 21:25, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok. Then how's about this : you copy-edit + work on phrasing, on whichever you like first + whenever you have time? Lets finish one, before we start on next. And I check what is missing + collate additional sources, if necessary, that I will add as time allows. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 21:33, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

You seem to be quite familiar with the conditions for ratings of classes C, B + A? The page on P. p. tulliana is rated C-class at the mo. Please let me know what you think is needed to upgrade it to B?? -- BhagyaMani (talk) 11:31, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'm mostly looking at the table on WikiProject Cats/Assessment, but to offer my advice: there looks to be a subsection, each with considerable detail, for every country in its range, which is something I have not seen on other cat articles and question if it is entirely necessary. Secondly, the behaviour and ecology section is rather short. But besides those two items, it is a pretty good article. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 19:27, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Super + thanks!! Well, yes, that's right about the subsections : that's a holdover from the earlier Persian leopard page. So what do you recommend ? Remove the headings + rather form 3-5 paragraphs, in which info about the different regions is merged? And I think the lede is much too short, not summarizing content adequately. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 19:40, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Mmm, true. The lede could be longer. And yes, shortening and summarizing the range section the way you proposed is a good idea. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 19:44, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Then I imagine one paragraph each about leopard in a) Anatolia, b) entire Caucasus, c) Iranian plateau, i.e. including Iraq, Turkmenistan, Afghanistan + d) Kazakhstan. Perhaps just one subsection *Historical range*, in which to move the pre-2000 info in all the country subsections. What do you think? -- BhagyaMani (talk) 20:07, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Good idea, that splits up the information into a logical division of information without focusing on countries overmuch. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 20:29, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Hey I'm sure you noted my follower. Last week, I also chased the guy around a bit : followed me on ~20 pages at short intervals of one to max. 27 min within a just ~2 hours, like a doggie on a short leash. And wherever you go, s/he's also around within less than 15 min. What a weird fan have we got ?! -- BhagyaMani (talk) 20:55, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

As you may have noticed - of the last ten "sources" this editor added, seven were Wikipedia mirrors. Please keep an eye out for recurrence; if this goes on, we'll first have to make some noise on their talk page and then escalate if necessary. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 23:29, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your message. Yes, I noticed and reverted a few. S/he's a newcomer perhaps and doesn't know. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 04:53, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Bengal tiger in Mudumalai image
The Nagarhole-Bandipur-Mudumalai-Sathyamangalam-Wayanad-BRT region has the largest population of Bengal tigers in the world. Hence, it would be appropriate to include one image from this region. Most of the images in the article are from Kanha. Please reconsider your revert. --Tagooty (talk) 06:34, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * True is that there were lots of img taken in Kanha TR. I checked a few hundred imgs at commons + replaced some with img taken elsewhere. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 07:03, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks --Tagooty (talk) 11:07, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Given your keen interest in fauna, you may like some of my Quality Images of animals and QI of birds, all taken in India. Many of my other images are scenery, mostly in India. --Tagooty (talk) 14:05, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the links! Nice collection. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 14:46, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Copyvio templating
Hi! I saw your removal of copyvio at Mikumi National Park. I don't know if you forgot, but don't forget to template the people committing copyvio! I've done it for you, but just reminding :) Kind regards, Sennecaster   ( What now? ) 00:59, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Sand cat
The source on page 14 :
 * Felis margarita margarita Loche, 1858.
 * Distribution: North Africa.
 * Distinguishing characters: Smaller size with yellowish pelage and often marked with spots and stripes.
 * Felis margarita thinobia (Ognev, 1927).
 * Distribution: Southwest Asia and the Arabian Peninsula.
 * Distinguishing characters: Large size, greyer pelage with fewer markings.

Like you said, I'm just putting exactly what the source says. Ddum5347 (talk) 03:16, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mugger crocodile
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Mugger crocodile you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Simongraham -- Simongraham (talk) 10:40, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Chunga Rest Camp
"(Reverted good faith edits by Arrivisto (talk): It's still an advertisement + unsourced)" No it's not! it's information about a resource of the Kafue Reserve. As to unsourced, I'm not given a chance, since you revert my edits immediately. There are sources, and it's omportant to distinguish it from a second Chunga Rest Camp in another Zambian game reserve. I don't want an edit war, but the information I posted is appropriate, it's not advertising, and should NOT be reverted. Arrivisto (talk) 11:58, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Please read What_Wikipedia_is_not. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 12:02, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I've read it! I don't accept that stating that a game reserve the size of Wales has a tiny rest camp amounts to advertising, puffery, or commercial promotion. Rather, it is a description of the infrastructure of the reserve. It is imperious to impose your opinion in this way and keep reverting. Please let others have the chance to read it and consider its merits.Arrivisto (talk) 15:53, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Animalworlds314
Hello BhagyaMani, Not saying you were too harsh but just for info it looks from their user page that they are a high school student Chidgk1 (talk) 14:17, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, I usually assume good faith and think that also high school students should adhere to wikipedia standards. Or not? -- BhagyaMani (talk) 14:20, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure they should. I wonder if that generation of Yanks still say: Have a nice day Chidgk1 (talk) 14:25, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * And you too ! -- BhagyaMani (talk) 14:31, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Mammals by country lists
Howdy. As you may have noticed, Animalworlds314 is back and indulging in their special brand of wheedle/waffle/proclamation edits again. I have tried to sort it out for them on my talk page, but am now finding that, annoyingly, the status quo that I assumed was holding for these list articles does not actually apply. I was always of the opinion that the "locally extinct" category would only contain taxa that are recorded from post-1500 CE, that being the cut-off for the IUCN to assign a status. However, that's clearly not how this is handled; e.g. the aurochs is all over the articles in Lists_of_mammals_by_region. Are we using some more broadly applied "in historical time" here? What period exactly does that entail - 0 CE? 2000 BCE? 9000 BCE? I don't see it spelled out anywhere.

If there's no clear consensus to refer to, maybe we should open it up at some central location and establish one. The current situation makes it very hard to deal with issues like the above editor. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 13:32, 4 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I once had a brief scuffle over whether or not to include prehistoric animals like Smilodon in, I think, List of mammals of North America. I thought it should be only recent extinctions, not prehistoric ones, but the other person disagreed. A consensus on the topic would be nice - maybe at WP:Animals or WP:TOL? Anyway, happy editing. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 17:53, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I started a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mammals. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 19:50, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Hooray... they are back... Just so we don't stumble over each other's efforts: I suggest that we will just have to keep double-checking everything they do until the discussion at the Wikiproject can formulate a consensus, and clean up as required in the meantime. Then if they still refuse to act responsibly, it ought to be kicked upstairs. - And an incidental note re red deer in Iraq: with an IUCN ref that actually looks legit (noted in last para of expanded distribution description). Affiliated summary tantrum notwithstanding. Sigh. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 21:23, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Pity! Many of these lists are anyway on my watchlist. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 21:37, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, as per the last exhibition below, I am walking back on this, and will happily take some time out right now to get them indeffed. Unless you want to make the case - your call. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 21:50, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * and, you are all monsters and villians for this case, it looks that i am going to banish for creating a discussion over a cut off date and the continuation over the stupid IUCN bull crap. You will leave Wikipedia as i say, NOW!!!!! Get out of here you creeps. Leave Wikipedia today and never return to this site ever!  and that crap


 * Done. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 22:32, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Taking things out on every list of mammals articles i include
, just what in the name of earth is wrong with you, why do you ever take things out on anything i can include based on my knowledge, ok? This kind of Shenanigan needs to be over permanently! Just so you know that i may sound cruel on this case and that will be a thing for me to kick your big disgusting ass out of here, seek revenge on you, and get rid of you for god damn good  and take this very seriously but i Animalworlds314 am hereby banning you on editing on every kind of list that has to do with mammals of every country for the rest of your days and you are to take off the list of mammals on your watchlist out! now! Not only that, but also banishing you from editing Wikipedia too, since i look at you as a disgraceful maggot. Even before that discussion on cut off dates, you kept constantly taking out on every species that i include on each list of mammals articles. You are not going to be part of Wikipedia anymore mister and leave now as one of your dreadful punishments from me. Say goodbye to wikipedia you filthy freak because of me banishing you from this encyclopedia over taking things out inappropriately. You will never EVER ever your days on Wikipedia forever and ever, you don't deserve to be here on Wikipedia. I am having no mercy on you. Mark my entire words, go, get out of Wikipedia, shoo, i never want to see you around here anymore because you are a monster or should i say an ogre. i am kicking you butt out of here! mister! So, Never come back ever!!! and this will be your defeat. -- Animalworlds314 (talk) 21:43, 7 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Its so funny when this gets them blocked. TigerScientist  Chat > contribs 16:19, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh you really bothered to read this rubbish -- . They kept adding ravings for hooouuuurs. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 16:41, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Reading the iucn citation for the wild boar presence in Syria
, you need to look at source and for god's sake READ the source, the source says that the wild boar is present there, just what is wrong with you, huh? You can't just take it out just because it has the IUCN citation and as well as extinct animals i include. Let me warn you this, if you don't stop this crap and all, i will report you to the ANI and ask them to block you forever. -- Tahrzan2105 (talk) 15:05, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Animalworlds314
The latest sock appeared at ANI, and is blocked.  Acroterion   (talk)   18:47, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. I hope that this was their last attempt; but wouldn't be surprised if not. Cheers -- BhagyaMani (talk) 20:08, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Reverting citation errors
You reverted my corrections on 4 articles. They appeared on clean up as "CS1 errors: extra text: volume. The template emits this error message when some form of the word "volume" ("volume", "vol.") is found in the value assigned to |volume=. To resolve this error, it is necessary to remove the extraneous text from the parameter value. I believe my corrections were valid and should not be reverted. Thoughts? MarialeegRVT (talk) 11:16, 20 June 2021 (UTC)


 * According to the description and examples at cite book, the citations at Neofelis were correct, at least to my reading. I was double checking before reverting the changes, but BhagyaMani was quicker. The description at Edition, series, volume is a little unclear, as "volume numbers should be entered just as a numerals" only refers to volumes with just a number. It continues "Any non-numeric value of five or more characters will be presumed to follow some other convention" which in this case is a volume number and volume title. There is no parameter just for the volume title, so this seems the only way to include volumme titles. — <span style="font-family:Arial;background:#d6ffe6;border:solid 1px;border-radius:5px;box-shadow:darkcyan 0px 1px 1px;"> Jts1882 &#124; talk 11:37, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Jts1882!! -- BhagyaMani (talk) 13:03, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Rather than remove the volume text from volume, you can wrap it in ((..)) to indicate display as given. This should display the volume correctly without giving the spurious hidden error. I believe this was the solution that came out of a previous discussion of when to bold volume numbers and what can be include in the volume parameter with the citation templates. — <span style="font-family:Arial;background:#d6ffe6;border:solid 1px;border-radius:5px;box-shadow:darkcyan 0px 1px 1px;"> Jts1882 &#124; talk 15:11, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Super trick : thanks for sharing!! Is this needed for ALL volume titles longer than 5 characters? Or only when adding the word 'Volume'? E.g. a ref in Pallas's cat doesn't show a maintenance tag without the trick in the volume parameter. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 15:27, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I think it's only when "volume" or "vol" are part of the title that the error generated. This is why your edit without "volume" got rid of the message. — <span style="font-family:Arial;background:#d6ffe6;border:solid 1px;border-radius:5px;box-shadow:darkcyan 0px 1px 1px;"> Jts1882 &#124; talk 15:40, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Kuno National Park
http://www.kunonationalpark.org/about/introduction Tedster007 (talk) 21:14, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Nons?
Hi, sorry, why did you revert my edits on Binturong? It is the only species of its gender. --Whydoesitfeelsogood (talk) 20:02, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
 * That was nonsense indeed : gender refers to the sex of an individual, whereas a species is a taxonomical unit. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 20:16, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, so why revert when you could've simply changed "gender" for "genus" since it's obviously just a typo? --Whydoesitfeelsogood (talk) 20:48, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It's YOUR responsibility to get FAMILIAR with terms and their meaning BEFORE you use them and to PREVIEW your sentences before publishing them. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 06:54, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * No it isn't. If I come to read an article and see typos or doublets left in the text by other editors, I take my time to politely correct them instead of reverting the edits as whole. I suggest you keep the same productive approach on WP :) Regards, --Whydoesitfeelsogood (talk) 02:05, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Gavial
Still my favourite crocodilian :) I'm reading something by George Eliot that has a character named Gavial Mantrap, thought you might be amused. ~ cygnis insignis 05:45, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, cygnis insignis ! Found the Moral Swindlers: seems like Gavial Mantrap is quite a mean character . -- BhagyaMani (talk) 16:56, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

My edit
Hi, my recent edit got reverted by you as it was apparently redundant. Can you explain why it was redundant? You need to explain things properly when reverting someone’s content so please do it buddy. KejuFuru (talk) 15:17, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * See my edit summary: restored to best previous version. You provided refs with links that do not show any of the statements you added. your thoughts? -- BhagyaMani (talk) 16:46, 1 August 2021 (UTC)


 * It does show what I typed, you need to research properly. You didn’t even search anything! Let me show you wait.

1. 251kg; 264kg; 272kg weights - https://www.google.com/search?q=Roberts+%28+1951+%29+mentions+a+2.99+m+9+ft+10+in+lion+shot+in+the+Sabi+District%2C+Transvaal%2C+South+Africa%2C+which+scaled+251+kg+553+lbs.+Another+specimen+shot+by+White+%28+1912+%29+was+said+to+have+measured+3.01+m+9+ft+11+in+in+length+and+scaled+just+under+272+kg+600+lb.&rlz=1C9BKJA_enIN964IN964&hl=en-GB&biw=1112&bih=719&tbm=bks&sxsrf=ALeKk00NGBLJ5L_Z1ss9xweXWJw87_Z8lA%3A1627838297313&ei=WdcGYZbZEsuCyAPPlIrwBQ&oq=Roberts+%28+1951+%29+mentions+a+2.99+m+9+ft+10+in+lion+shot+in+the+Sabi+District%2C+Transvaal%2C+South+Africa%2C+which+scaled+251+kg+553+lbs.+Another+specimen+shot+by+White+%28+1912+%29+was+said+to+have+measured+3.01+m+9+ft+11+in+in+length+and+scaled+just+under+272+kg+600+lb.&gs_lcp=Cg9tb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXNlcnAQA1CULlijOWDtO2gAcAB4AIABAIgBAJIBAJgBBKABAaoBGW1vYmlsZS1nd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAtbW9kZXPAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-serp 2. 229kg; 235+ kg - https://www.google.com/search?q=and+another+male+measuring+3.01+m+9+ft+104+in+killed+in+the+same+country+by+235+kg&rlz=1C9BKJA_enIN964IN964&hl=en-GB&biw=1112&bih=719&tbm=bks&sxsrf=ALeKk02UJgEij9tGeI9hSVvrt8YYkqkrkQ%3A1627838308689&ei=ZNcGYcG2KdbVrtoPmMaL4AM&oq=and+another+male+measuring+3.01+m+9+ft+104+in+killed+in+the+same+country+by+235+kg&gs_lcp=Cg9tb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXNlcnAQA1CMxAtYjMQLYODFC2gAcAB4AIABAIgBAJIBAJgBAKABAaABAqoBGW1vYmlsZS1nd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAtbW9kZXOwAQDAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-serp 3. https://www.google.com/search?q=In+may+1964%2C+a+posthumous+weight+of+600+lbs+was+recorded+for+a+giant+lion+named+%E2%80%98Castor%E2%80%99+who+was+the+leader+of+a+large+pride+in+the+Etosha+Game+Park%2C+South-west+Africa%2C+for+more+than+ten+years.+ill&rlz=1C9BKJA_enIN964IN964&hl=en-GB&biw=1112&bih=719&tbm=bks&sxsrf=ALeKk02e0mKaMymtnT7_qjmraNt1fobbTQ%3A1627838570342&ei=atgGYdKtFNrB3LUP--qruAE&oq=In+may+1964%2C+a+posthumous+weight+of+600+lbs+was+recorded+for+a+giant+lion+named+%E2%80%98Castor%E2%80%99+who+was+the+leader+of+a+large+pride+in+the+Etosha+Game+Park%2C+South-west+Africa%2C+for+more+than+ten+years.+ill&gs_lcp=Cg9tb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXNlcnAQA1DGKViyNGDgNWgAcAB4AIABAIgBAJIBAJgBAqABAaoBGW1vYmlsZS1nd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAtbW9kZXPAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-serp 4. Rest of the weights are mentioned here - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panthera_leo_melanochaita

I didn’t expect such mistake from an experienced user! Please avoid such mistakes in the future. KejuFuru (talk) 17:24, 1 August 2021 (UTC)


 * The article is large enough, we don't need trivial details on the biggest specimens. Also, you are not supposed to copy the paraphrasing of the source (see WP:PARAPHRASE), it violates copyright. LittleJerry (talk) 21:55, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Ok LittleJerry. Fine, and I didn’t know about the copyright thing so thanks for informing. KejuFuru (talk) 02:29, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Pantanal, Pampas Cat confusion
It seems the overeager IP editor has been busily editing the Pampas cat and Pantanal cat articles to reflect the new classification. I don't have rollback, alas, so could you restore the most accurate previous versions, please? Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 18:02, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Done. Is that what you meant? And how come you don't have rollback rights? Cheers -- BhagyaMani (talk) 18:23, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't know how to get rollback rights, and honestly I'm not active enough to really need it. I mostly just patrol and wikignome. SilverTiger12 (talk) 18:24, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Since you are around, please see Cat In A Flat. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 18:34, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Peneda-Gerês National Park
Hi, why did you change the size and side of the images on Peneda-Gerês National Park? I'm asking this because I feel like they are now clumped together and sort of disorganized. Average Portuguese Joe (talk) 20:39, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I set size to auto, the default that every user can set individually in preferences. And align also to auto so that the text is not squeezed between images. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 21:34, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Lions & Tigers, oh my
As I am sure you've noticed, a certain editor is rather persistent in removing information without explanation from different Lion articles. They also added some information to Bengal tiger (using, IMO, rather questionable sources). I also discovered that some 90% of their edits are to Lion versus tiger, which may explain their interest in those two cats' sizes. You might want to keep an eye on all the lions & tigers articles, at any rate. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 04:15, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I noticed and also keep an eye on all these. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 07:42, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Edit on the European Marten
My edit was not a blank statement. It was a statement with a reference for evidence. Though given that I have been told that you are an expert editor on mammal articles, I came to consult with you first before I edit said article again, as I do not want it to be seen as rebellious vandalism. My reason for adding in the statement and the article was valid and simple: European Martens inhabit forests throughout Europe, and these forests are being destroyed by the various wildfires that spread throughout them, thus depriving the animals of their natural habitat. While I could not find many articles currently pertaining to the matter of European Martens being affected the wildfires yet, I did find one, and I linked it as a source and a reference for my claim. I was confused by your removal of the link and your reason for doing so, as you did not adequately explain it, only leaving a bare as vague statement. So I decided to discuss this matter with you before I decide to edit again, as I fear that reverting and edit from a professional may constitute a ban. Please let me know your thoughts when you have time. Much appreciated, old friend. Firekong1 (talk) 20:05, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your message. This 2018 BBC News article does NOT support your statement, as it is about a pine marten family in Northern Ireland ONLY, but NOT about the species being threatened by the present 2021 wildfires in southern Europe. Please refrain from using WP:BAREURLS and see WP:CITEHOW. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 08:12, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

I understand now. Next time, I will try applying better editing skills for articles such as these. But in the case that I do find an article pertaining to European Martens as a whole being threatened by wildfires, I may add it as I believe that it is relevant to the threats it faces. I am grateful that you have given me this information, otherwise I would not have known. Much obliged, my friend. Firekong1 (talk) 19:28, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Make a page for Axis?
Hi, I was wondering if you were interested in helping me move the species currently listed under Hyelaphus into Axis, and make a genus page for it? Currently, all the former Hyelaphus species are marked under Axis per the ASM: the Calamian hog deer, Bawean deer , and Indian hog deer. I was thinking of redirecting Hyelaphus to Axis (genus). Thoughts? 74.68.117.176 (talk) 20:46, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirecting the page to Axis (genus) is probably not the right choice, but it should be moved. I'm not sure whether latter page's redirect to chital needs to be removed by an admin first. your thoughts? -- BhagyaMani (talk) 06:51, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I have no interest in this topic and no knowledge of it, and I dunno why I was asked. Maybe it was because I fixed a referencing error in Indian hog deer when the page appeared in Category:CS1 errors: unsupported parameter.  That was purely a technical edit, and I paid no attention at all to the topic. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 07:04, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I asked you because I assumed that as an extendedmover you are familiar with the technicalities of such page moves + how to deal with redirects. I'll asked sb else then. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 07:10, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't do a page move unless I understood and agreed with the reason for the move ... and I haven't investigated this one.
 * I recommend a WP:RM discussion to establish a consensus on whether this is a good idea. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 07:56, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Exactly what I was thinking. The redirect to the chital page needs to be removed for there to actually be a page there. 74.68.117.176 (talk) 07:13, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * What about about making the article about the subgenus (or Axis porcinus Group of GG-2011), at least for now? That would be consistent with Meijaard & Groves (2004), although not Pitra et al (2004) (possibly due to mistaken identity). I assume more recent studies studies support the Chital-Hyelaphus clade and Axis as used by the IUCN and ASM for the four species. However, an article for Axis (genus) is needed and it is probably best to move and expand Hyelaphus so as to keep the page history. This would need an uncontroversial deletion of the redirect. — <span style="font-family:Arial;background:#d6ffe6;border:solid 1px;border-radius:5px;box-shadow:darkcyan 0px 1px 1px;"> Jts1882 &#124; talk 08:02, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply, Jts1882! You may have seen that I placed a requested move template at the Hyelaphus talk page. So we can proceed once the discussion there is settled. This is anyway the more appropriate place to discuss this issue than my talk page, don't you think? -- BhagyaMani (talk) 08:10, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You could copy this discussion over. — <span style="font-family:Arial;background:#d6ffe6;border:solid 1px;border-radius:5px;box-shadow:darkcyan 0px 1px 1px;"> Jts1882 &#124; talk 08:24, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Done. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 08:37, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Why do you have to remove images from an article
You have violated an article by removing the gallery images. How would you like to reply to this. Shaan Vinoth (talk) 07:18, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Please read the guidelines at WP:GALLERY and follow them. If you do not understand them, get them translated. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 08:41, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Then what about all the other Wildlife Sanctuary articles, many have such galleries Shaan Vinoth (talk) 09:17, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Not all are on my watchlist, but when I see galleries with so many images, I always delete them following this policy. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 09:24, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your help
Thanks for commenting on the deletion forums, it really helps to get consensus for these things. And also for your help regarding Mammals of Cyprus and other mammals lists. J0ngM0ng (talk) 20:47, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Saudi gazelle?
This is kind of an awkward situation. The Saudi gazelle has recently been reabsorbed into the dorcas gazelle per ASM, yet you reverted all references to this on the respective lists of mammals pages. I don't think the only source should be the IUCN red list, since they are not always up to date taxonomically, and the ASM is the taxonomic resource usually followed on Wikipedia. J0ngM0ng (talk) 12:36, 15 September 2021 (UTC)


 * All these lists of mammals of .. are primarily based on resp. IUCN Red Lists, but are NOT about taxonomy. If taxo status has changed since last valid Red List assessment, then this change should be reflected in resp. page, not on any list/s. And btw : the proper page for discussion is NOT my talk page, but the talk page of the list or the species. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 12:48, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Fine, I'll move the discussion. J0ngM0ng (talk) 12:49, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Bengal tiger image
Where did you see the nomination for deletion of 's crop of a free image? —C.Fred (talk) 20:09, 24 September 2021 (UTC) Hey C.Fred: I just checked: that was a different one and has already been deleted. Sorry, my fault. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 20:13, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * See also : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Shaan_Vinoth#File_source_is_not_properly_indicated:_file:Mudumalai_by_N_A_Nazeer.jpg – BhagyaMani (talk) 20:18, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * It looks like that's been corrected, and an OTRS ticket is up for the image. —C.Fred (talk) 22:53, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Reference links
I had inserted a reference link to a text which actually contains information. Did you read the entire page of the link. http://natureconservation.in/mudumalai-national-park-complete-detail-updated/ Shaan Vinoth (talk) 07:10, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * This NOT a reference! I repeatedly notified you about bare urls, and as you resist to learn, I consider your adding such urls as tests. Get familiar with wiki guidelines!! Note also that I already removed your subheadings before as these are NOT at ALL needed for each and every short paragraph. – BhagyaMani (talk) 07:18, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Jaguar
I think we should add some information on how the word is pronounced before it gets on the main page. LittleJerry (talk) 00:22, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I checked a few articles for pronunciation : but even the older authors like Pocock + Guggisberg did not explain this. So must pass for now. If you think that ↑ 2 audio files are correct, then is there any way to embed them as external media? OR : we ask someone to produce 2 new audio files for commons?? – BhagyaMani (talk) 10:11, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I just read the text for the main page on 29 Nov, and think that the lede of the actual page is MUCH BETTER than the one for main page. Lets at least remove along with the lion, tiger and leopard and other links to old and new world, so that the focus is on jaguar. What do you think ? – BhagyaMani (talk) 07:10, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Go ahead. LittleJerry (talk) 18:56, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Monkbot reverts
If you think a bot is malfunctioning, please confirm that is the case before doing a mass revert. The operator of the bot is User:Trappist_the_monk. I see there are a few other recent comments on their talk page about bot activity. OhNo itsJamie Talk 14:03, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did leave a message on their talk page already. – BhagyaMani (talk) 15:40, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Scottish wildcat revert
Why did you revert my Scottish wildcat petition edit? The petition is not "circulated by the activists" it is circulated by change.org. You could say it was started by activists but that's true of all petitions by definition (starting a petition makes someone an activist) so why bother saying so? My edit also updated the number of signatures and more accurately specified what the petition is for "helping Scottish wildcats by protecting the forest" rather than just "protecting the forest" with no mention of the wildcats at all. If your objection is simply my mentioning change.org then why not just remove that instead of reverting the whole edit? - Mattstan (talk) 18:38, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Wreathed hornbill
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Requirement for assistance
This article's inbox is massive, and I do not think that the animal in the image is the same as the animal being described:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Waldron%27s_red_colobus — Preceding unsigned comment added by Firekong1 (talk • contribs) 21:46, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Please ask at the talk page of ↑ page. – BhagyaMani (talk) 05:13, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedians becoming scientists and using their own research
I mentioned on the talk page for the Iranian leopard that if any publications use the name commonly, I will not hesitate to insert it in. Better yet, when I pursue biology, I myself may even use that name commonly within published papers and I may add in into the article, though I have not yet gotten a response on whether this is allowed/legal on this site. Firekong1 (talk) 15:37, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
 * See WP:RS + WP:QUESTIONABLE – BhagyaMani (talk) 15:50, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
 * If you published a paper and used it to edit a Wikipedia page you would have a conflict of interest WP:COI. While people can declare a COI and continue editing, your example where you would publish deliberately to change the Wikipedia page would be a clear violation. In addition, a common name (see WP:NCFAUNA) is the name used most widely for a organism or group of organisms, not something determined in a couple of scientific papers. In this particular case the Persian leopard name has been established and in use for over a century. — <span style="font-family:Arial;background:#d6ffe6;border:solid 1px;border-radius:5px;box-shadow:darkcyan 0px 1px 1px;"> Jts1882 &#124; talk 15:57, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Excellent point + thanks for this clarification, Jts1882!! – BhagyaMani (talk) 16:01, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Excellent point + thanks for this clarification, Jts1882!! – BhagyaMani (talk) 16:01, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

I understand. I have no intention of violating wikipedia's rules, for I am a repsonsible editor. Albeit, I only feel that it should have the nickname because to distinguish the populations that live within Iran. Though I do not know how long a name should be established for it to be listed here as well. And the scientific papers will be more than a couple. Varying journalists may use different names for the same organism. But I completely acknowledge your argument, and I will bide my time for such an event just in case. I hope you understand that I have no malice intent on my part, and that we're all still learning and growing as wikipedians. Firekong1 (talk) 18:48, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Assistance in the future
I would like your expertise on editing articles relating to megafauna within the future so you and other wikipedians may not misunderstand my edits as vandalism. Firekong1 (talk) 20:54, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
 * You can get assistance at the Teahouse. – BhagyaMani (talk) 22:38, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Alright, I understand. I hope we can become allies in the future. Firekong1 (talk) 16:41, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Snow leopard?
Greetings. Are you still planning on taking snow leopard to GA? I've been looking over it and it needs work, but I think it is doable. I left some suggestions on the talk page there. Happy editing. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 17:10, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, am. And yes, it needs work. But some other carnivores kept me a bit busy in real life. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 17:25, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah. I've been busy with some real carnivores of my own, plus summer classes. Another question, do you think taking Panthera pardus tulliana through GAN is possible? I think it looks good enough to be one, but haven't as much experience with the GA process to be sure. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 17:30, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * i think it's possible, but suggest to first tackle the Leopard main page, and then tulliana. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 17:36, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Mm, fair enough- get the main article to GA, then bring up the subspecies? I went and gave a similar list of suggestions for improvement on the leopard talk page, too. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 18:33, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, imo the main page should have priority for GAN. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 18:43, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Indian roller
This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for September 2, 2021. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Today's featured article/September 2, 2021. Congratulations on your work!—Wehwalt (talk) 21:22, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you today for your share in the article, - great collaboration! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:02, 2 September 2021 (UTC)