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Your submission at Articles for creation: Ram Setu Controversy (October 22)
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Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 13:55, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok am submitting it again with corrections Bhumi2tandon (talk) 15:05, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Page deleted in the midst of editions
Hi My page "Ram Setu controversy" was deleted while I was in the process of making the necessary corrections. As per instruction am contacting you again to let you know that the draft is being resubmitted with corrections Bhumi2tandon (talk) 15:25, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ram Setu Controversy (October 22)
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~ Amkgp 💬  15:54, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Please provide specific instances where you find the sources not reliable since most of the references are from leading newspapers in India and interviews by Top Geologists in India Bhumi2tandon (talk) 16:30, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ram Setu controversy (October 22)
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Eagleash (talk) 17:35, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Ram Setu controversy


A tag has been placed on Draft:Ram Setu controversy requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://archaeotravel.eu/?paged=2. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Copyright violations
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''This appears to be the third time the page noted above has been created and identified as a copyright violation; on this occasion under a slightly different title which could be taken as an attempt to get around the issue incorrectly. Wikipedia will not accept violations and persisting could result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you.'' Eagleash (talk) 17:42, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

The copyrighted material has already been removed after you last pointed it out. This is the third time my page has been deleted in last five hours. What is this!! Bhumi2tandon (talk) 17:49, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Copyright violation was pointed out with respect to reference to a website www.myRameshwaram.com that reference was deleted immediately infact the page was deleted for the first time while I was in the middle of making the requisite edit. Bhumi2tandon (talk) 17:51, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

The second time no copyright violation was pointed out. Neither has any been specifically mentioned the third time Bhumi2tandon (talk) 17:53, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Bhumi2tandon, I want to ask you a question. I expect that you answer truthfully. The question is:
 * Have you written the text in Draft:Ram_Setu_controversy yourself?
 * I can look deeper when I got an answer from you. It may take me up to 24 hours for me to notice a response.
 * Notice from Edit conflict message: The aparent source URL was given at leats for the third time, this one. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:56, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok just noticed the second copyright violation message. Excuse me but this is my first page submission. So why was this second copyright violation pointed out at the first go, I mean why two different rejections for two different violations could have sited both violations for correction at the first go itself Bhumi2tandon (talk) 17:57, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Ofcourse I have written the article myself sir. Infact I am personally in contact with the Geologist who first declared the Ram Setu to be a man made structure. Have been researching this topic since almost an year now. Now please let me know can I recreate a new page with the same name and submit the content after removing the copyright violation? Bhumi2tandon (talk) 18:02, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok Victor I see where the misunderstanding is, because this copyright violation has been pointed out to me only once. First time another link was cited for copyright violation so while I was in the process of removing it within minutes of receiving the violation message the page was deleted.

Second time I have no idea why my page was deleted because no copyright violation was pointed out to me.

Third time now another link has been pointed out as copyright violation

This is my first page submission with wiki so please bear with me but why could the two copyright violations be pointed out the first time itself? Bhumi2tandon (talk) 18:07, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok am submitting the page again for the fourth time now after removing the copyright violation link. Am in a bit of a hurry wanted to get this work done as soon as possible actually. Got a few things lined up. Bhumi2tandon (talk) 18:28, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok so my page is now ready for review. Had put in a lot of time and work into finalizing the page before submitting it for the first time so was expecting this to go smoothly. Anyways, now have removed all the possible copyright violations only newsagency citations given now and all reference errors pointed out have also been corrected though the references have been given manually. Somehow the "Review" option is not coming now so here's the link please let me know https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ram_Setu_Controversy Bhumi2tandon (talk) 19:36, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ram Setu Controversy (October 23)
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Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 14:59, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. ''Here you state that you are in contact with "the Geologist who first declared the Ram Setu to be a man made structure" – this is presumably S. Badrinarayanan, whose work has been presented in a less than neutral fashion in the draft. That you have a conflict of interest here means that it is extra important to allow other editors to weigh in, and that uninvolved editors get to decide whether any parts of the draft can be published. bonadea'' contributions talk 11:40, 24 October 2020 (UTC) Yes am aware of the Conflict of interest guidelines. Want to clarify one thing here, I got in contact with Dr Badrinarayan as also with many others who have been giving for and against views on the topic 'while researching' this topic itself. If you read the entire conversation I have mentioned there that I have been researching this matter since almost an year now. If you are finding any unnecessary mention of any one individual in the article that can always be edited but the thing is that Dr Badrinarayan is the person who started the entire academic aspect of the controversy with his startling discovery and so the article cannot be without a mention about him. And the legal aspect of the controvert was started by Dr Subramanian Swamy who is also mentioned in the article so it's not possible to ignore these two people while covering the topic bhumi2tandon

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ram Setu Controversy (October 24)
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Seraphimblade Talk to me 12:40, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Respected sir Thank you very much for your warning telling me not resubmit the article without addressing the issue pointed out by the previous reviewer. Actually I had posted a message on the page itself in order to ensure the reviewer understands the tricky situation I was in with respect to resolving the issue but someone deleted it.

Please go through my coversation below with the previous reviewer and you will understand why I was in no position to fix the problem.

Copy of my conversation:-

"Please see a copy of my conversation with him below.

"The POV forks have already been fixed please check. Actually this is my first wiki page submission so I guess every place has its own style and language in which content is required to be written. Be it newspaper or websites :))

You cannot "fix" it. The whole thing is a POV fork. The answer was "no", and will remain "no" no matter how many times you repeat the question. Seraphimblade Talk to me 14:05, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that but a gentler tone would be appreciated. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhumi2tandon (talk • contribs) 14:20, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Mr Seraphimblade At 14:20 I objected to a high toned message from you and requested you to use a gentler tone and within 20 minutes of my message you went ahead and declined my draft page submission and arbitrarily closed a discussion that was posted on the page with respect to the merger of the page which was started today morning only and in which only you had given your opinion so far. The page was supposed to remain open for atleast seven days as per guidelines. I find this act on your behalf highly vindictive and prejudiced. Let me remind you that while Wikipedia grants some discretionary powers such vindictive acts are not covered by that.

Had you deleted my page the first time you went through it and thought it to be a POV fork I would not have objected but the action was done within 20 minutes of my submitting a message respectfully objecting to you high toned message this is clearly a vindictive act and highly objectionable behaviour for a place like wikipedia. Let me remind you no one not even you OWN the Wikipedia and small editors like us are the reason the Wikipedia exists. I would really appreciate if you stay away from the draft page now."

How can I fix the reason for decline when the page was declined vindictively and arbitrarily after removing a discussion posted in the group with respect to its merger that had been opened in morning only and in which only the reviewer had given his opinion so far. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhumi2tandon (talk • contribs) 00:01, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ram Setu Controversy (October 25)
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Snowycats (talk) 05:28, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

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October 2020
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Waiting for evidence that I deleted your edit as described on my talk page
Link? Doug Weller talk 18:47, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Ram Setu Controversy


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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 16:31, 1 May 2021 (UTC)