User talk:Bidgee/Archive 13

Good wishes
And happy wikipedia-ing for the new year to you as well SatuSuro 02:16, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the wishes. All the best to you too. --AussieLegend (talk) 07:40, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, you too.  Aaroncrick  ( talk )   08:01, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Darwin
Hey Bidgee, in relation to the edit I made to Darwins section on population surpassing Hobarts by 2048 this is based on the same statistics that state by the same year Hobarts population will have reached 367,200 as opposed to Darwins 334,900 thus making my deletion of this statement justified, as Darwins population on the same model of projected growth as Hobarts will be less and will in fact not pass Hobarts, hope this helps as to why this erroneous statement was removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.157.244.36 (talk) 07:32, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It isn't supported by the cited source. Bidgee (talk) 07:40, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Astra car colours
Are you sent me a warning about the Astra paint colours being from a brochure. It actually isn't it is from a book that they give to train staff about the cars it contains marketing, diagrams, specific information. I'm pretty sure its not copy written. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaaaplay (talk • contribs) 13:45, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Alice Springs
Provide sources for what I removed, or it stays off per WP:V. It's been there for too long without sources. And "kids" is unencyclopaedic. 138.217.138.157 (talk) 07:42, 10 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Infact you should cite them since you're removing the fact tags. Bidgee (talk) 07:47, 10 January 2010 (UTC)


 * In fact the IP is not removing sources. It's removing information that is not true as the fact tags already indicate. That's what fact tags are for. BerleT (talk) 09:50, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Hot 100 FM
thank you for the feedback. I've updated the Hot 100 FM article with edit summary and added to the discussion page accordingly. I trust this is now suitable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andjb (talk • contribs) 12:02, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

2009–10 Australian bushfire season
How big do the fires have to be to be listed in the article? There is a fire in Beconsfield but is it big enough for a brief mention?  Aaroncrick  ( talk )   03:15, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't see why you can't make a brief addition, can see how big it was but for residents to be warned it must have been big enough. Bidgee (talk) 12:09, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

temperature graphics
Hi Bidgee,

did you create the temp charts used in the wikipedia heatwave article with excel? if so, any chance of sharing your template to create some charts for the 2010 heatwaves across SE Australia? Alpha993 (talk) 11:42, 12 January 2010 (UTC)


 * No sorry, I didn't have Excel at the time so ended up making my own code to make the graphs however the code is something I don't wish to make public (Sorry). If you can name some locations (sourcing the data is no problem for me) I can get them done for you. Bidgee (talk) 12:07, 12 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank-you. I am interested in charts for Adelaide, Melbourne and Canberra for the period Tue 5 Jan to Sat 16 Jan (inclusive) Alpha993 (talk) 12:49, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, I'll have them done during the week. Just going to re-work a few things before hand. Bidgee (talk) 12:57, 17 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Canberra is done. Bidgee (talk) 12:03, 18 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Great work! is attribution to your wikimedia user name sufficient or would you like something different? (I will hyperlink to wikimedia commons in the electronic version of the presentation) Alpha993 (talk) 10:50, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I thought that I'll add the mean average lines so people can see the mean min and max for January. No attrib is needed (as I've release it into the PD) but if you would like to attrib my username would be sufficient. Adelaide is done, Melbourne is next as well as some inland locations. After that I've got the November 2009 heat wave which is going to take some time due to the length and how wide spread it was. Bidgee (talk) 14:24, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

L-cruiser
Yeah being a volunteer firey (now lets gomething straight mate - in the time of the late and great ? Charles i wanna nuclear power station Court ? we actually had a tourist promotion on our numbers plates Relax in a State of Excitement ((hmmph) - which some rather poncy artist then went and produced a t shirt with that on one side and the other A billion flies cant be wrong - so there is more to us over here than being the most isolated outpost of the umpire - place in the world ) ahh that feels better now that I have that out of my system - most volunteer fire brigades for their tenders use the short wheelbase L-cruiser ute - so that must be hundreds in use and even more retired here in wa alone SatuSuro 14:20, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

2APH
Are you going to remove all the information from 3MPH, 3BPH, 3SPH, 3WPH, 3GPH, 3RPH_Warragul as well? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.28.85.50 (talk) 00:16, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Hello
I am quite new at this, but I have been trying to edit something on the Avianca page, and I see you are rolling it back. I do not understand why, if the information I am adding is correct. In fact I am from Colombia, and all the commercials and Advertising Avianca makes is celebrating its 90 years, and in fact they were the second commercial Airline ever created. all this information can be found directly on their website.

this is the link. just read the first 2 paragraphs of it and you will find this information there. [Avanca's History http://www.avianca.com/Inicio/Navegacion/AcercaAvianca/Nuestra+historia/en/NaceUnaHistoriaConAlas.htm]

in addition, if you don't mind could you please help me set up my own wiki page.

Thank you DG (talk) 22:05, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Orana region
G'day again, I've left a comment on Cgoodwin's talk page. YSSYguy (talk) 09:30, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Telstra/Sensis
Hi, you have rejected my changes based on the fact I am from the company I'm writing about (Sensis). My changes are based on fact and clearly represent what Sensis is and does. The text I have suggesting removing is inaccurate and unsourced. The only reference provided is to an article which further states the content is inaccurate. My username reflects the company I work for as I don't need to hide my identity and think it's important that people know I am writing with knowledge. What do you need from me to demonstrate the accuracy of the content versus the rubbish that is currently on the site? KarinaatSensis (talk) 04:04, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
 * This diff clearly shows that you turned this into an advert for Sensis and you also have a COI and POV towards the company. I suggest you follow Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or faced being blocked. Bidgee (talk) 04:25, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Woolworths
Dear Moderater Bidgee, I have cleaned the bias from the enhtry I have made to woolworths Town Hall in Sydney. I have cited references as best as I can. The details are fully accurate. Check with woolworths Bella Vista Hq Sydney. I am trying to help Woolworths Town Hall and their staff fight for survival at Sydney Town Hall. Please forgive my bias against NSW Labor. I should of known better in Wiki. Please accept the amended remount with neutral point of view and references cited.

Kind Regards,

Not a central business district Metro supporter. Onward ho Woolworths and Australian owned jobs forever. Appreciate your discretion and goodwill in your review. Thanks+++++++ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.10.183 (talk) 11:16, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Gold Coast Density
Hi Bidgee. Theres no source for the population density which I changed. I simply calculated that based on the population and area figures the existing density figure was wrong. I'll have a look at the citation page, but I don't know if it really applies here. VanillaBear23 (talk) 11:24, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Litchfield
Thanks for fixing my half-done job with Litchfield. Much appreciated. -- Mattinbgn\talk 03:15, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I saw that, not good at all. Might be worth a mention in 2010 in Australia perhaps. I am slowly making my way through my list of photos at Commons:User:Mattinbgn/January 2010 although the power outages here are making it difficult. Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 05:10, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Brisbane Density
Well I don't want to get banned, but anyone that goes on that page and has even a basic way with numbers ca see that they don't add up. I've searched for an external site with all 3 (Population, Density and Area) statistics, but I've drawn a blank. I realise that in changing it without a valid reference I have breached Wikipedia's policy, but it was my thought, that if someone else, such as your self, actually looked at the edit concerned, rather than just cancelling it because there isn't a reference, they would realise that the current info is wrong. I have no chocie but to leave it now, but it's annoying to know that the Brisbane page, and many other pages, have wrong density info. VanillaBear23 (talk) 13:53, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Stick with the Australian Bureau of Statistics even if the stats look wrong. Bidgee (talk) 08:32, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

The 10-15 incident at Ashburton Station was also one event.
That footage of the pram falling off the platform was seen around the world. So was the racy surfing caught on the air. By the way, would you like to continue the conversation on Talk:Seven News? --Let Us Update Special:Ancientpages. 08:26, 5 February 2010 (UTC)


 * The pram rolling off the platform incident is totally different to the so called "racy photo" incident. You have been reported for breaching the edit warring. Bidgee (talk) 08:31, 5 February 2010 (UTC)


 * You might want to open a talk page for 129.130.32.229 with a friendly evade warning, as it does appear to look like a potential sock (at least to me... Doc9871 (talk) 02:47, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

lightbar photo
I have a question regarding this photo, which I saw you uploaded. The red rectangle behind the lightbar (in front of it, in this shot) looks like a scrolling text message board. Is this correct? --Badger151 (talk) 21:33, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You're correct, it is an LED message board. It can display static or scrolling text. Bidgee (talk) 02:08, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I've added that info to the caption at Emergency vehicle lighting. --Badger151 (talk) 02:43, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Tania Zaetta
I am unsure what exactly i have done wrong on Tania's page. I have not added any information that is incorrect. I have simply expanded on the existing information, and added small details where required such as the correct dates for a movie being filmed. You have now changed it back three times. You said i needed to state a reference, i did, its all on Tania's website. I am Tania's PA so anything i am putting up on the page is enhancing the Wiki service with more information. Can you please either let me know what exactly i am doing wrong, or put back all the work i put into it. Thanks Alysssas —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alysssas (talk • contribs) 13:47, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Australian Buereu of Statictics
When I added content to this page I was quoting the ABS website page, everything in that edit was from that page, why did you delete it ?, I believe that this information should be made available. --124.176.77.205 (talk) 00:10, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Townsville
Firstly, good catch on File:Postofficetownsville.png. I had my suspicions that this one wasn't legitimate but couldn't find it on Google images and I diodn't notice the partially cropped "Report a problem" until just now. FYI, I'm pretty sure that User:HarleyN is a sock of Keys43. They edit the same articles, remove templates at the tops of articles without articles and rarely upload images that they've actually taken.

Regarding this edit to Townsville, Queensland, the only discussion that I can find about the infobox image is one that I started on the article's talk page and which nobody responded to. As I indicated there, File:TownsvilleCBD.jpg is generally a much better resolution, more current (8 months vs 50 months) image than File:Townsville city.jpg. It's generally a better picture overall, so I can't see why File:Townsville city.jpg should be used.

Unfortunately nobody saw fit to reply to my comments. RoxBo seems to be the only one pushing for File:Townsville city.jpg, and I really don't understand why. --AussieLegend (talk) 03:27, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

The edits were splitting of articles, NOT a simple copy and paste MOVE.
Please note that I have actually editted properly the articles North West Metro and North West railway line, Sydney. They are not copy and paste moves. It is easy for you to press the "revert" button, but it took me a good two hours to edit the articles properly. --Damaster98 (talk) 11:27, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * A note has been posted on the discussion page of North West Metro. I do not see any other way of splitting an article on Wikipedia that does not involve some degree of copy and paste. According to my understanding of WP:Splitting, some degree of copy and pasting when splitting an article should be allowed. Besides, as I've mentioned earlier, the articles have been adjusted and information has been splitted according to relevancy to each of the separate articles. They are not straight copy and pastes. --Damaster98 (talk) 11:44, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

LUUSAP
I've indeffed this editor. WP:ANI is probably a better venue to report personal attacks, but then you'd have to notify the attacke that they had been reported (you could request that another editor notifies them on you behalf though). Mjroots (talk) 08:49, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Just a word of support - I kept your user and talk pages on my watchlist after we traded those notes about the lightbar photo, because I saw what LUUSAP had done in regards to placing that disambig remark on your user page. He was absolutely out of line.  If he had repeated the performance I intended to stop by his page to suggest that he lay off, but it looks like things escalated pretty quickly, and before I could comment he's gotten himself blocked.  Hope this is the end of it.  Best, Badger151 (talk) 06:23, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Alice Springs Town Council
I work for the Alice Springs Town Council and just edited the Council page correcting a number of factual errors and adding further accurate info.

All my changes have been removed because of a "copyright violation". I also removed a heap of links that just went to empty pages.

So, all wasted time as far as I can see. Is there any point in continuing?

Mjhastc (talk) 07:13, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I have no problem with fixing factual errors but you must cite a source, also adding copyrighted content is a no no, even if you work for the local government organisation. Bidgee (talk) 07:29, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * You shouldn't forget possible conflict of interest guideline issues (and should carefully read this) when editing a page you work for, Mjhastc. Don't give up, and happy editing! Doc9871 (talk) 07:56, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Working on the article now, hope to clear it up and may make the editor happy. Bidgee (talk) 07:58, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * "Happy, happy, joy, joy, happy, happy joy!!!" Doc9871 (talk) 08:02, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I appreciate what you are up against in keeping Wikipedia from descending into the cesspit of spam that is most of the rest of the internet. But I'm not sure how what I added was in violation of any copyright, I believe the copy was purpose written by our Media Officer (but maybe she just cut-and-pasted from our website?) and was very bland, uncontroversial stuff unlikely to spark a conflict of interest dispute. Also, at least one link reference restored is a dud because I have just implemented a new website for Council and know the page no longer exists. Old URL still forwards to the Council's new homepage, but the original content is no longer there. Anyway, I take your point about citing sources, we did overlook this aspect and just "blogged" I guess. Will discuss further with our media officer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjhastc (talk • contribs) 08:41, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * If the copy is both neutral and reliably sourced, it shouldn't raise any WP:COI issues, even if it's "in house" copy. It must have good outside referencing for this, however... Doc9871 (talk) 08:47, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Air New Zealand Flight 901
Thanks for the assistance here. The airline has attempted to sanitize this article in the past XLerate (talk) 08:53, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem, doesn't surprise me at all and AirNZ is not the first nor the last to do this! Bidgee (talk) 08:55, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I have also now taken this to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Bidgee (talk) 09:03, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I had gone to the 3RR noticeboard but you'd beaten me to it. XLerate (talk) 09:15, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Macquarie Southern Cross Media
I saw you undid a revision I made to this page, in regards to the naming... So, I've created a new page for this entry - titled Southern Cross Media. The group has been through a few name changes of late... The parent company changed from Macquarie Media Group to Southern Cross Media Group... At the same time, Macquarie Southern Cross Media has dropped the Macquarie naming, and is now known as Southern Cross Media. Should we re-direct traffic destined for MACSC to the new page?BrashesVoucher (talk) 00:40, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * As I said in the summary, the parent company has changed its name but the "subsidiary" has not (well no evidence of reliable sources). Bidgee (talk) 01:10, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Both the Parent and the Subsidiary have changed names, I will shortly post evidence. - Is a business card evidence!? ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by BrashesVoucher (talk • contribs) 01:23, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Bidgee, I finally managed to find actual written evidence of MACSC's name change: Page 3 of http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20100223/pdf/31nvgtfs6v311n.pdf Are you able to give me advice of how I should proceed to change the name in wiki? Clearly I'm new here, and don't want to mess anything up!!! BrashesVoucher (talk) 04:27, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you ever so much! And thanks for not biting the newbie! :) Take care BrashesVoucher (talk) 05:20, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Proposed new map style for List of Diplomatic missions by Country articles
As a regular contributor to these articles your views are sought about a new map style for the List of Diplomatic missions by Country articles.

Currently we are using maps which show which countries host a diplomatic mission of a given country (please see as an example the map we use for List of diplomatic missions of Spain). These maps however do not show where the missions are actually located (which may be a few for those countries with large networks of consulates). And the title of this ("Diplomatic missions of Spain") and other similar maps could be more accurate

The map style I propose instead indicates the cities that host a mission of a given country. As an example, I have produced this map for List of diplomatic missions of Singapore.

It is not difficult to make these maps. They are based on the third map below (accessible at on Wikipedia Commons), in which I have indicated all the world capitals and other major cities where diplomatic missions are located. The circles representing cities are not visible because they are slightly different shade of grey, but all you have to do is colour each circle with a distinctive colour, and in no time you can have a more accurate and easier to read map.

I think that this approach is more appropriate for this and other categories of articles which concern cities (such as List of national capitals, Lufthansa destinations, List of cities that failed in their bids to host the Olympics etc.), rather than countries.

Please add your views to this new proposal, including whether you like it, see problems, or see ways how it could be improved here

Thanks! Kransky (talk) 10:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)



Regarding the article Dry thunderstorm
Regarding your removal of information here, you claimed that the information was unsourced, which was not the case, as this reference was added (therefore the information was sourced), therefore, should I place the information back into the article? Also, regarding your second comment about the information being focused on a specific area, we can simply use the Globalize template, and then that problem can be corrected over time. Thanks. -- IRP ☎ 16:51, 27 February 2010 (UTC)


 * The source was added by another editor, who is to say that this is indeed supported by this reference? If you have a copy of the source then cite them using the then using that way we have inline sources and know what it cited and what needs to be. Bidgee (talk) 03:10, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

The Emirr
Hello. I will fix them all soon. Thanks for warning. And do you have any idea about colours?

 The Emirr  Disscussion   14:16, 28 February 2010 (UTC) 


 * Something I little better on the eyes (lighter colours but not to light). Bidgee (talk) 12:39, 28 February 2010 (UTC)