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yeah mate it's all good, i just though this newer update looked cleaner and easier to read, the whole medal box with gold, silver and bronze with WR in green and Aussie record in red was done by me in the first place in an older account, just figured if people liked my previous idea, they'd be open to this one —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aussieswimmer (talk • contribs) 01:43, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

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TVS/Freeview (Australia)
Hi Bidgee

I emailled Freeview asking whether TVS is in fact part of Freeview. Their response is below. If the Freeview page continues to list TVS as a channel, it should be noted that TVS (and the other community channels which are or are about to be broadcast in digital) are not technically part of Freeview.

Response from Freeview:

[TVS is] not a shareholder in our consortium. Freeview is owned by ABC, SBS, Seven Network, Nine Network, TEN, Prime, WIN and Southern Cross. In saying this, Freeview does promote TVS as part of the channels that are available on the digital platform, because our primary function is to convert Australians from analogue to digital TV and we do this by promoting the channels that are available in digital. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.158.50.65 (talk) 10:38, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Jeffrey Street Kirribilli Australia
Thanks for helping, greatly appreciated.AWHS (talk) 12:55, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Please discuss reasons for reverts
Hello fellow wikipedian, can you please post reasons for reverts on the Bundaberg talk page. Information was sourced and cited from Bundaberg City Council published non-fiction works? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.39.51.116 (talk • contribs) 05:54, 9 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Clearly, there are some issues with referencing, for example . This doesn't fine the citation criteria by a long stretch.
 * Also, there are some issues with capitalisation: "The Latter was jestingly adopted into the Aboriginal" and spelling "or caln ..."
 * I also wonder who has this opinion: "Some of the theories verge from plausible to outright fabrications"?
 * In places, the writing looks accurate and well sourced, but capitalisation, spelling, and referencing need to be correct. Perhaps, in order to avoid reverts, you could build your skill by completing edits that are more straight forward to begin with? Good luck. --wcrosbie, Melbourne, Australia 09:44, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough, however in the spirit of what Wikipedia is and reminding more distinguished publishers that Wikipedia is open to all contributors and that their edits are not gospel. As well as considering to help better the article instead of simply reverting an edit that raises a different opinion to the one posted by the original author; particularly when the opinions given are cited from reliable sources and are usable according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content#Text. I understand the need to create order from chaos but unfortunately this kind of attitude gives me a depressing feeling that even this project's (Wikipedia) information is controlled by those who feel they know what's best for the rest of us. How disappointing. 203.39.51.116 (talk) 01:03, 13 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I can understand that your edits where done in good faith but Wikipedia is strict on the way content is written and sourced. I recommend that you sign-up for an account (you don't have to if you don't want to) and create a page on your userspace (something like I've done here) and use it to get use to and also learn the styles, use of templates, editing ect but it can also be used to edit and allow others to show where you went wrong ect so that you can edit articles in the future without having to worry about it being reverted. I'm also sorry that you feel depressed and disappointed about it, but I hope can stay and contribute to Wikipedia. Bidgee (talk) 01:33, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

The kind gesture is appreciated Bidgee. 203.39.51.116 (talk) 04:48, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

ABC News 24
Good afternoon Bidgee.. Do you think it would be worth putting protection on ABC News 24, the amount of times we've had to revert it in the last 3 or so days? I'm interested to hear your opinion on whether or not it should be. Wally Otto (talk) 06:43, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think page protection will serve its purpose as it would have to be full protection (even established editors have added unsourced content). Bidgee (talk) 07:16, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Isn't there an edit protect, like the one you did when 3MP was closing down? Could that work? Wally Otto (talk) 11:19, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It would only stop IP's and unconfirmed accounts from editing and not established accounts (Example). Bidgee (talk) 11:28, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Point taken then. Isn't it a shame that pending changes 2 isn't in proper existance. Thanks for clarifying anyway though, I was a little confused. Wally Otto (talk) 11:35, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

FYI
There is a discussion at WP:AN3 about the flag warrior.  R ad io pa th y  •talk•  14:17, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

HLWiki
Thank you for your message regarding HLWiki Canada this was my first time uploading a picture. I am had difficulty adding the licence for the picture but believe that it is now done. Would you please be so kind as to tell me whether i did it correctly? It is meant to say creative commons share alike 2.5 Canada and reference to http://hlwiki.ca. Thank you for your help and understanding - cisco — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ciscogiii (talk • contribs) 23:32, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * According to the HLWiki Canada the correct license is Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.5 Canada but as the license as NonCommercial it can't be uploaded on Wikipedia under the same license or under a free licence (OTRS permission from the copyright holder would need to be sent for it to be uploaded under a free-use license [eg. cc-by-sa-2.5-ca]) or you could have the image a fair use (example of fair use). Bidgee (talk) 05:27, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

CTVDigital1
Bidgee,

Where do you think we are up to with user:CTVDigital1 talk? I have reverted some of their contributions at Griffith, New South Wales. Have just looked at their edit history and the log of warnings. Are we up to request for blocking? I have not requested a block previously and am not sure what is next best step. Bleakcomb (talk) 01:57, 17 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes they need to have a block of some sort, they just don't seem to listen or just ignore what that have been warned for. Fact is I was willing to help them if they needed but I've given up on them. Bidgee (talk) 05:16, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

The Wrap LIVE (television program)
RE: Conflict of interest.

Although I am the EP of the show, I was merely fixing up work that an unknown party had already undertaken on the article. This in my books does not constitute a conflict of interest. Furthermore community television deserves to be represented though the Wikipedia Project and the question of notability can be raised about many commercial television shows (but it never is). --Thewizkid93 (talk) 06:22, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Stan Walker image
Hey, the image was the single cover for an article about the single. But it has been removed by another administrator because the song has not yet charted, just only been released on the radios but there was plenty information about it to make an article. So I'll upload the image again once I have re-created the article. Thank you ozurbanmusic (talk)

Recent Changes Camp Canberra Aug 11, 2010
I saw your edits on the University of Canberra WP entry, and thought, by chance, you might like to come to this: RecentChangesCamp, Canberra is being held at the University of Canberra, Building 7, Room 7XC37 on 11 August 2010. ABOUT | REGISTRATION | SCHEDULE

Hope we'll see you and friends there. Leighblackall (talk) 00:10, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Socceroos
We just wait for our friend to get bored of shouting that some of the Socceroos players are good enough to get picked for Spain right? He says that 2 Socceroos would get selected in all the other teams. Apart from him saying that most cricket countries are not developed or small, well RSA also play football and apart from Japan, all the other qualifiers Australia played were against 3rd world or small Asian countries (as the top 2 qualified, Australia could have lost both matches to JPN, defeated the Arabs and Uzbeks, and still passed)  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  01:23, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion
You may care to check out the proposed deletion of List of convicts on the First Fleet at: 27.33.237.1 (talk) 01:39, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Yay for common sense!!!
-- Mattinbgn\talk 03:32, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Eregli bob
Thanks for warning him. I think he's going to be trouble though. Now that I've redirected Point Stephens, New South Wales, he's created Point Stephens which, although cited, is still full of OR. --AussieLegend (talk) 12:38, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Point Stephens should be just a section in the Fingal Bay article. Also another Point Stephens exists in the USA. I would like to deal with it but I've currently have a severe case of the flu and recently lost a family member. Bidgee (talk) 12:45, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Please accept my condolences. Definitely not the best time to have the flu. --AussieLegend (talk) 12:57, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You want to threaten ME about "assuming good faith" ??? I am in the middle of creating a new entry on a topic not previously covered, I step away for a moment,  and some crumbum tosser like "Aussie Legend" comes along, claims it is all wrong,  claims it a topic of no importance, claims it is original research,  and arbitrarily deletes an hours work !   And when I re-enter it with one or more cites for every sentence,  he persists in claiming "it is full of OR".  And you want to prattle on about "assuming good faith" ??  "I think he is going to be trouble though".   THAT is UNCIVIL and I challenge you to remove his defamatory assertion.Eregli bob (talk) 05:24, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

CA Technologies
Did you read what I wrote in the edit summary if you check the website, it is CA Technologies on all the (recent) articles and on the sidebar, reflecting the name change of the company this year. I suspect the only reason it says the offical site of the CA Brumbies is because they have been unable to update the graphic, if it was plain text they would have. Look at the headings Captain Hoiles continues on with CA Technologies Brumbies and CA Technologies Brumbies complete scrumhalf roster, articles by the Brumbies Media unit or check in the articles listing the Wallabies team-- sss333  (talk) 22:47, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

V-2 paragraph deletion
A look at the discussion page would have saved you the trouble of sending me a message. I asked for objections about the deletion of the paragraph a week ago. None were posted.

As for my background, I am a university student in Mechanical Engineering / Launch Vehicle Motors. I am intricately familiar with the A4's design, and I have read Goddard's work. --130.149.43.171 (talk) 13:26, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Climate
Hehehe. Data on the page of Bureau of Meteorology (Brisbane) change from time to time. Within three months at least three changes. Now, Bureau of Meteorology removed data of sunshine hours. BoM also made large changes in temperatures, from 29.0°C to 30.3°C in January or 20.9°C to 21.9°C in July etc... I do not know what they are doing there. Subtropical-man (talk) 11:21, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Average's page should always update about every two months but some only update every six and even twelve months. The BoM will be also be doing quality controls on data (slow process when you have 100+ years of data just for one site) and with the sunshine hours, it isn't a surprise as it wasn't correct anyway. Few changes are being rolled out ATM and one of them is ACCESS. Bidgee (talk) 11:53, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Austar Channel Listings
To whom it may concern, this is in reply to your comment regarding my changes to the List of Austar Channels page. I apologise about me adding this section but i believed it should be included on the Austar Channels page as on the Foxtel Channels page the channels are included on different EPG numbers and it should be shown that the channels are also available to Austar subscribers but on different EPG numbers. Please reply with a means of which we could include these channels onto the page as they should be included. Forbesy 777 (talk) 02:16, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you please let me know what is an alternative option to the list of channels that I have previously listed and you have removed as they are available to AUSTAR subscribers and they deserve to be shown on the page if FOXTEL can show them on their page (with differing EPG numbers) Forbesy 777 (talk) 00:51, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Free to air [FTA] (Terrestrial) is not part nor transmitted by Austar/Foxtel, listing it in the Austar/Foxtel channel list is wrong since the box which Austar/Foxtel now use is not just a satellite/cable decoder box but it also is a digital set-top box (this is a convenience for the subscriber so that they don't have to worry about needing more AV slots nor the room for a separate set-top box to watch FTA). Bidgee (talk) 04:17, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
 * That is why i put them under the title "Terrestrial". If it is wrong to have FTA channelds listed on the page then shouldnt the following channels be removed from Foxtel's channel page: EPG100-Channel 9, EPG107-Channel 7, EPG110-Channel 10, EPG127-7TWO, EPG129-GO!, EPG207-7HD, EPG209-9HD, EPG210-ONE HD, and EPG531-ONE SD. Like you and I have both pointed out the channels are transmitted via terrestrial and not via satellite, so if Austar can not list them on their page then these channels should not be listed by Foxtel. Forbesy 777 (talk) 07:08, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Revert Question
I am a little confused about this revert, could you explain why you revert this nominator's comment? -  Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 04:35, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * No idea! I never even went into the Did you know page so it has me stumped! Bidgee (talk) 04:37, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Okie Dokie, you might want to take a look at other edits from the past hour, something looks out of sort, consult an admin quickly. -  Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 04:38, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Acacia image
Hi, just letting you know that I've removed the image File:Acacia cardiophylla 08.jpg from Acacia cardiophylla:

Acacia dealbata Acacia cardiophylla
 * grey-green foliage
 * 6 – 30 pairs of pinnae (some leaves in photo have 25 pairs)
 * up to 30 m high
 * often grows on slopes and creek banks.
 * greenish foliage
 * 1 - 3.5m high
 * 8 - 19 pairs of pinnae
 * grows in mallee communities Melburnian (talk) 12:25, 17 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Noticed my error the other day, I spotted a true Acacia cardiophylla but hard to get to but have spotted a lot of Acacia dealbata. Bidgee (talk) 12:56, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Far too late in the night for sensible analysis ...
Oh dear. I got it wrong again. Ho hum. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:44, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I thought and I know it as the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, but how wrong I was too! Bidgee (talk) 13:46, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * What a gentleman! You're just saying that to make me feel less stupid, aren't you. (FYI: It worked.) Pdfpdf (talk) 13:57, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Seriously! I've always known it as the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier and how wrong I was (doh!!). Bidgee (talk) 14:10, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * (Seriously.) Me too. Pdfpdf (talk) 14:32, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * (I think this is yet another of those cases where I'll check my facts BEFORE putting my foot in my mouth - again). Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:32, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Sydney Metroads
Bidgee, you just undid a bunch of valid changes to I did to various Sydney metroad articles without providing an explanation. If you can prove my edits wrong, fair enough. But simply deleting valid things and reverting back to versions which I know to be wrong is, well, wrong. Do not undo my changes again without a proper explanation of what your problem is.--38.119.167.100 (talk) 04:40, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

McCormack image
Wow! Great work! Can the project sponsor you for a nationwide tour? ;) Frickeg (talk) 13:58, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I try and get may photos of local or visiting future/current pollies, but only when I get word or advertised but Labor and the Liberals seem to keep quite until after they visit. I love to photograph all the pollies but doubt I would ever get funds to do so. Bidgee (talk) 07:56, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

List of weather records.
Done. Cheers, · Andonic  Contact 08:16, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

File:HOCKEY BUTTER CUP V TUDOR 1 (750 x 502).jpg
Hello. You tagged the above file as a copyvio. Do you know what the source of it was? Angus McLellan (Talk) 10:36, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * TCC is Tamworth Regional Council (Was known as Tamworth City Council aka TCC) but I can't point to the images now since the site has had a makeover. Bidgee (talk) 10:38, 25 August 2010 (UTC)


 * That's great. Thank you! Angus McLellan (Talk) 10:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Freeview/Digital terrestrial television
Hello. You have been recently reverting a number of edits I made to the Freeview and Digital terrestrial television, and no reasons were given. In future if you don't agree with my edit, please give a good reason or it can't be improved. I think the channel list should be included on one page only, because having it duplicated in two articles means that edits made to it on on of the pages don't get transferred to the other page. Replacing one of them with a link to the other page solves the problem. If you don't agree, give a reason for your opinion instead of treating it like vandalism. Thanks 124.168.229.29 (talk) 09:14, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Well it is up to you to use the talk page of the article and explain your changes so others can agree but I'm not the only editor who disagrees with your edits. Bidgee (talk) 09:31, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello
FYI Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Australian_politics. Regards. Романов (talk) 10:45, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Tiger routes from Canberra
Hi Bidgee, the Tiger Airways route map here shows that they fly from Canberra to Melbourne and Adelaide. Nick-D (talk) 11:15, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
 * That map is out of date, try planning a flight to those destinations ;). Bidgee (talk) 12:01, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Right you are! Nick-D (talk) 22:51, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Mitchell results
I've reverted these for the moment - what we're looking for is not the declaration, but the statement "these results are final" at the bottom, which Mitchell still doesn't have. The commission will be tweaking these with recounts and such like for the next few weeks, as I understand it. Frickeg (talk) 08:53, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I missed that but a silly place to have it! If they can have Declared image up the top why can't they also have "Final" image as well (make our lives easier) Bidgee (talk) 09:41, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Ben collins
The BBC have just CONFIRMED that The Stig is Collins, multiple articles are now reporting the BBC lost the court case and it has been confirmed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AndrewTindall (talk • contribs) 12:49, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes that now is the cage but I wish people would hold off to make sure facts (reliable sources) have published the story so it can be cited. Bidgee (talk) 13:04, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Climate of AUS rejection
I do not like how I'm always blocked from adding climate info for Australia. I have links that support my words yet you claim it's plagiarism and when I don't have links you then say it's original research. The climate section of NSW was created by me (in my previous account King Kong 92) I think I have the right to edit it as much as I want to if I have source (and I do), yet I'm still being stopped for contributing. It's annoying and sad.

Oh, and, can you at least ALLOW a second climate table (collapsed) for Sydney? For Bankstown Airport. JUST THAT.

Regards, (User talk:Greengobbie92) —Preceding undated comment added 09:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC).

Norbert Basil MacLean III article
Mr. MacLean's article is AfD'd -- Articles for deletion/Log/2010 September 9.--S. Rich (talk) 16:25, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: File:GeelCatsjumper.png
Hello Bidgee. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of File:GeelCatsjumper.png, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: image not identical to that from given URL. Thank you. Kimchi.sg (talk) 14:16, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * It is clear that the uploader has taken it from the site I listed and merged it into one with very little changes. If we are going to allow editors to claim ownership of images which are not their own then Wikipedia is fucked! Bidgee (talk) 14:22, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Infobox Australian road → Infobox road
In the interest of full disclosure, I helped create the appearance of Infobox road (IBR), so my ultimate goal is to intergrate Infobox Australian road (IBAR). I tried to stay out of the TfD discussion, especially after it got ugly. All that being said, I'd like to work with you to address the concerns you had. If you could renumerate them, I'll try to come up with a solution for each. Thanks. –Fredddie™ 00:40, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

All the xxxx in the universe
And they choose something like that, I sometimes wonder SatuSuro 08:03, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

September 13 2010
Would like a clarification as to why Logo should be little l. As this is not a common occurence throughout wikipedia. Thankyou and please do not delete posts again without clarification. Rogueassassin (talk) 11:48, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I can remove what ever comments from my talk page. Also just because other articles use " Logo" doesn't mean it is current. Bidgee (talk) 12:30, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Understand your point. Thankyou. In the future though I would suggest being less negative towards other contributors and helping more instead of criticizing or deleting comments 'just cause you can'--Rogueassassin (talk) 13:05, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

2009-10 Aus
Hi Bidgee - I was just wondering if we had an article on this Weather event. Im wondering as i believe the strong low pressure system mentioned was Tropical Low 08U as the dates fit. BTW it looks like it is gonna be one busy 2010-11 Aus Season with Tropical Storm Risk already predicting 8 Severe Tropical Cyclones and 15 Tropical Storms over a 1 min mean between 100 and 170E. Regards Jason Rees (talk) 12:15, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Remember that system well! Almost thought it wouldn't stop raining! Only article I know of is 2010 Victorian storms which only has very little about the rain in New South Wales (only Junee and Wagga Wagga rather then the state). Bidgee (talk) 12:35, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * 2010 Queensland floods appears to be linked to the event. Melburnian (talk) 12:31, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks - if their both the linked to the same meteorological event it might be worth consolidating them into one article under Tropical low 08U but for now im just gonna add see also links into the Australian 09-10 season.Jason Rees (talk) 17:30, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Tris.obrien
Can you jump on User_talk:Tris.obrien - Thanks 'Election 2010' is coming under a bit of attack - Thanks - Cablehorn (talk) 08:59, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Mudgee
Hi. "Mudgee, New South Wales" is the standard format for places in NSW. Your revert does nothing to help.

Sardaka (talk) 12:00, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

The "unaccept" button
Hi Bidgee, Just dropping a line, the "unaccept" button on pending changes was not for undoing a change that is pending. That button is to revoke the acceptance of an already-accepted change. Accordingly, saying it was broken is inappropriate, however, it may be appropriate to say that its purpose was unclear. Thought I'd let you know, Sh i r ik  ( Questions or Comments? ) 20:33, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Free to air television channels
Hello Bidgee. I am interested in the 'consensus needed' comment that you made after reverting my edits to Digital terrestrial television in Australia and Freeview (Australia). Does this mean that if no one says that they like the idea of a template for the channel table, it can't be instated into the articles? I'm curious to know how you expect the consensus to be reached. The way I see it, if someone reverts an edit for any particular reason there is definitely disagreement about it, but if no one says that they agree, it doesn't necessarily mean that there is any disagreement. According to this Wikipedia policy, 'any edit that is not disputed or reverted by another editor can be assumed to have consensus', so wouldn't it make more sense to leave the articles with the channel table in template form, and then if anyone reverts it with a genuine reason, or not, we can be sure if there is consensus or not.

I'd also like to know what your opinion is on this matter and the pros and cons. 'Consensus needed' doesn't really say anything about your opinion. Thanks Fruit.bmp (talk) 06:17, 29 September 2010 (UTC)