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Shoegazing Kids
I have reviewed the article Shoegazing Kids for GA and have put it on hold. Comments relating to my review can be found on the talk page, I hope you can address them within a week or two, good luck.  REZTER  TALK   &oslash;  01:07, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello once again, I have added more comments to my review. You're getting there, good work so far!!  REZTER  TALK   &oslash;  19:28, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Added more comments bro.  REZTER  TALK   &oslash;  20:17, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey man, I'm sorry that I had to fail the article, in my opinion it's a great article and it's shame that it had to fail on a technicality like that. You're a good editor, keep up the good work.  REZTER  TALK   &oslash;  10:45, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Chamois Niortais
I've given my comments at Peer review/Chamois Niortais F.C./archive1. Cheers.--Latouffedisco (talk) 10:55, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Stuck in the Sound
I have nominated stuck in the sound for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:46, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Phil Hughes
Then how would you suggest we denote that the years are unknown? It's certainly better than putting great big Xs in, and leaving it blank makes it look like you've forgotten to put the info in. – PeeJay 10:29, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Neon Trees
Hello BigDom. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Neon Trees, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''"the group was voted Band of the Year in 2009 by City Weekly, a popular Salt Lake City publication." take it to AfD - assertion of notability.''' Thank you. StarM 04:31, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

AFD for David Owens
Hi BigDom - you accidentally listed this AFD twice (i've removed one of them ) I suspect it's just Twinkle playing up, but I thought I'd let you know. Happy editing. Pedro : Chat  11:56, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Tommy Smith (footballer born 1980)
Thanks for your review, it's much appreciated. I believe I've addressed everything. Please let me know if you have any other concerns. Regards, WFCforLife (talk) 15:27, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. I'm not certain if I'll have time tonight, but at worst I'll have it reviewed by late tomorrow night. WFCforLife (talk) 18:49, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The review's up. Let me know when you're ready for me to take a second look. Regards, WFCforLife (talk) 16:48, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
Hello BigDom! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 24 of the articles that you created  are tagged as Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. If you were to bring these articles up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current Category:All_unreferenced_BLPs article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the unreferencedBLP tag. Here is the list:


 * 1) Bruno Audebrand -
 * 2) Cerezo Fung a Wing -
 * 3) Warren Jacmot -
 * 4) Terry Alvino -
 * 5) Kiki Lara -
 * 6) Nate Winkel -
 * 7) Brett Branan -
 * 8) Andrew Herman -
 * 9) Josh Nolz -
 * 10) Timothy O'Neill (soccer) -


 * 11. Christopher Schwarze
 * 12. Russell Hutchison
 * 13. Haven Bruce
 * 14. Matt Tanzini
 * 15. Adam Clay
 * 16. Ryan O'Neill (American soccer player)
 * 17. Tommy Rutter
 * 18. Ian Paul Smith
 * 19. Ian Bray
 * 20. Kevin Nylen
 * 21. Bart Creasman
 * 22. Willie Irvine

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 23:06, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Burnley F.C. season 1920–21
Looks like you did a great job with that 1920-21 article - it is really encouraging to see people working on articles about past seasons rather than just the current season. I hope I can do a similar article on the 1919-20 champions when I get round to it, though right now I'm working on the 1953-54 season, when Albion won the FA Cup but spectacularly collapsed in the league. cheers --Jameboy (talk) 00:28, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry
forget to add User: in front of the page MJfan9/List of PS3 Games move if you can!
 * '--MJfan9 (talk) 21:09, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

?
is there a wikiproject based on improving articles about the: PlayStation 3
 * 'MJfan9 (talk) 23:25, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

yeah i already Joined that project check my userpage and list of members thanks
 * 'MJfan9 (talk) 23:58, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

noooooooooooooooooooo!
omg theres a parody website of wikipedia called: Uncyclopedia how gay is that?
 * 'MJfan9 (talk) 00:29, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Valentines Day (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack)
Hello BigDom. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Valentines Day (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: has context, just lacks formatting. Thank you.  So Why  19:11, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

My DYK nomination
Hello BigDom, I have fixed the error you pointed out for the DYK nomination of Georgetown, Alberta. Would you be able to take a second look (please!)? JulieSpaulding 02:20, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It wasn't the article that needed to be fixed, it was the hook :) It has been fixed. JulieSpaulding 10:39, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Clarke Carlisle PR
Thanks, you can try asking the people listed at WP:PR/V at the bottom (copy editors section). I thought the writing in the body was tighter than the lead, for the most part. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 16:36, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Another trick is to not look at the article for several days, then print it out and read it out loud slowly - many things you might miss otherwise will pop out that way. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:25, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Nikita Filatov
Thanks for the review! I think I have addressed everything, if not please let me know. Canada Hky (talk) 01:33, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Canada Hky (talk) 20:36, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Re:Deletion
Ok, I thought that I had heard of someone reffering to a club like that as a pheonix club but I may have been mistaken. Anyway, I think deletion is a bit of a drastic action, I think perhaps a rename would be much better. Can you think of a better page title? The C of E.          God Save The Queen! (talk) 19:04, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
 * As I said, maybe it would be better if the page was renamed into something more appropriate so that it would fit with the description something like List of reborn and protest clubs maybe you can think of something better. Or maybe we should just change the description. The C of E.          God Save The Queen! (talk) 19:11, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I guess it's kind of a similar concept to List of stadium stands by capacity which includes both current and defunct stands in the same list. Well Ok, how about splitting the page into 2 different pages such as List of protest clubs and List of reborn clubs The C of E.          God Save The Queen! (talk) 19:18, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

David Wilson
Hello. Just to let you know I've moved it back, for the time being. Procedurally, we shouldn't pre-empt the outcome of the requested move on the talk page. And practically, now that Cattivi's come up with an approximate year of birth, (footballer born 1908) would obviously be the better name. Perhaps Pretty Green might want to withdraw the move request in light of the additional information. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:13, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * or I didn't think it should have been moved, anyway, clearly the admin who made room for it must have thought differently. I've been wrong before..... Will comment at article talk page. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:48, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Peter Haddock
Hello. Noticed you'd added the Hugman book (which I haven't got, so don't know how much detail it goes into) as a general reference on Peter Haddock. Was about to add some more refs, but thought I'd ask first whether Hugman verified a) the £45,000 fee, and/or b) him being a postman after he retired? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:38, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's what I'd have guessed. Struway2 (talk) 11:56, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

DYK
Hi, please explain the 5x issue for Christian meditation for me. I totally rewrote it, so it is like a new article. How did you measure the 5x issue and how can an article be expanded 5x and not be called too long? Where is this explained and how does one deal with it? Thanks.

Joe Cada
Thanks for watching the page and reverting the vandalism. I apologize that I remain overburdened with catching up on the licensing requests on my talk page for my images. I will get to the article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:25, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Reviews
Sorry, but since I'm semi-retired I really don't think I could handle reviewing. Cheers. Spiderone 22:07, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Primus GA
I've addressed the concerns.

Cheers, Spiderone  15:04, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Duane Courtney
Hello. Was wondering what source you were using for Courtney's Telford stats, and for the 2003 start date at Birmingham. The Birmingham date is definitely wrong: this from October 2002 has him on the bench for a reserve team full of first-teamers. I haven't found anything online that says when exactly he did join, though. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 15:46, 28 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Think I will remove them. As mentioned above, the 2003 date for Birmingham is certainly wrong, and (personally) I wouldn't consider a computer game to be a reliable source. Though if you're going to use it, you ought to reference it explicitly, not just add the stats as if out of thin air. thanks, Struway2 (talk) 11:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

2009 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup Final GA review
I've followed up on each of your comments in the GA review. I moved the article as you suggested, which did not move the GA review page. I had to move that separately. I think I've got it all right, but in case you can't find the page, you chould be able to get there by looking at my contribution history.

Thanks again for taking the time to review the article and provide feedback. I really appreciate it. Please take a look at my follow up comments when you have time. --SkotyWATC 18:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, I've addressed the additional comment. You've done a great job reviewing this article and I welcome any other feedback you have while your mind is still on the topic.  Feel free to take another pass through the article if you feel so inclined.  I intend to take it to peer-review as soon as it is promoted to GA with the intention of getting it to FA some time this summer (hopefully).  Your detailed feedback has been very helpful and appreciated.  Thanks! --SkotyWATC 22:30, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Allfootballers and Peterborough
Thanks for your offer of references from the allfootballers site, which I will bear in mind. Thanks also for adding an article for Jim Hall, to which I have added a ref that he is Posh's leading scorer. I have also now added an article for Frank Noble, the other birth date I queried at Footy. Cheers. Eldumpo (talk) 20:32, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, I want to create articles for two players who were with Crystal Palace in the late 1950s - Gerry Priestley and Harry Redmond. If you get chance, could you post some info on them from allfootballers. I can get some info from Neil Brown's site but unfortunately Priestley doesn't have a separate entry. Thanks. Eldumpo (talk) 08:31, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the Palace players. Does the allfootballers info include the actual year they joined a club, or is it on a season basis like the Neil Brown site? Eldumpo (talk) 20:37, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Turf Moor
Re the FAC, where sourcing had been raised - the definitive book on British football grounds is Simon Inglis' The Football Grounds of Great Britain. While most of the major things in its entry about Turf Moor are already mentioned in the article in one way or another, it does have some addition info worth putting in. For example, it seems that someone died in a crush during the match at which the record attendance was set. If your local library doesn't have a copy, mail me and I might be able to supply the relevant passages. Oldelpaso (talk) 14:58, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Ian Paul Smith
Hello. I'm a bit confused by your recent edits to Mr Smith. First, the BLP sources tag you removed isn't an "unsourced" tag, it's a "sources need improving" tag, and they do. Second, I think you must have misread Smith's entry in the Hugman book, because it doesn't mention him returning to Burnley after a month and to their first team in the December, or them releasing him in the summer. Nor does it mention anything in the sentence about joining Sheff Wed, other than he joined them: it has July 2003 not June, no mention of Hartlepool's promotion or a Bosman or Chris Turner. And Soccerbase doesn't have him joining Kidder in January 2006 or joining from Alfreton. Oddly enough, Hugman does mention the trial at Torquay, though not what the match was... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 19:17, 17 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Anyway, leave him, I'll finish off referencing him. Most of it's true, it's just a matter of looking for sources. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 21:18, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2012 February newsletter
Round 1 is already over! The 64 highest scorers have progressed to round 2. Our highest scorer was, again thanks mostly to a swathe of good articles on The X-Files. In second place was, thanks an impressive list of did you knows about racehorses. Both scored over 400 points. Following behind with over 300 points were, , and. February also saw the competition's first featured list: List of colleges and universities in North Dakota, from. At the other end of the scale, 11 points was enough to secure a place in this round, and some contestants with 10 points made it into the round on a tiebreaker. This is higher than the 8 points that were needed last year, but lower than the 20 points required the year before. The number of points required to progress to round 3 will be significantly higher.

The remaining contestants have been split into 8 pools of 8, named A through H. Round two will finish in two months time on 28 April, when the two highest scorers in each pool, as well as the next 16 highest scorers, will progress to round 3. The pools were entirely random, so while some pools may end up being more competitive than others, this is by chance rather than design.

The judges would like to point out two quick rules reminders. First, any content promoted during the interim period (that is, on or after 27 February) is eligible for points in round 2. Second, any content worked on significantly this year is eligible for points if promoted in this round. On a related note, if you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which would otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk &bull; email) and The ed17 (talk &bull; email) 23:52, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 March newsletter
We are over half way through the second round of this year's WikiCup and things are going well! , of Pool B, is our highest overall scorer thanks to his prolific writings on television and film. In second place is Pool H's, thanks primarily to work on biological articles, especially in marine biology and herpetology. Third place goes to Pool E's, who also writes primarily on biology (including ornithology and botany) and has already submitted two featured articles this round. Of the 63 contestants remaining, 15 (just under a quarter) have over 100 points this round. However, 25 are yet to score. Please remember to update your submission pages promptly. 32 contestants, the top two from each pool and the 16 next-highest scorers, will advance to round 3.

Congratulations to, whose impressive File:Wacht am Rhein map (Opaque).svg became the competition's first featured picture. Also, congratulations to, who claimed good topic points, our first contestant this year to do so, for his work on Featured topics/1982 Atlantic hurricane season. This leaves featured topics and featured portals as the only sources of points not yet utilised. However, as recent statistics from show, no source has yet been utilised this competition to the same extent it has been previously!

It has been observed that the backlogs at good article candidates are building up again. While the points for good article reviews will be remaining constant, any help that can be offered keeping the backlog down would be appreciated. On a related note, if you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk &bull; email) and The ed17 (talk &bull; email) 23:12, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Furfag


Please do not make statements attacking people or groups of people. Wikipedia has a strict policy against personal attacks. Attack pages and images are not tolerated by Wikipedia and are speedily deleted. Users who continue to create or repost such pages and images in violation of our biographies of living persons policy will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Thank you.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. -badmachine 21:24, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * hello. that is the last time i allow twinkle to notify the author. from now i will compose notifications myself. sorry about that. :) -badmachine 21:45, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

threatening?
that message was supplied by twinkle, i did not compose it. :\ -badmachine 21:41, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I don't use twinkle so didn't realise that it was automatic. Thanks for clearing it up anyway. Big  Dom  21:54, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Name sort for Icelandic articles
I see you have been creating articles for Icelandic footballer. FYI... you have been doing namesort the opposite on how it should be done. Icelandic sort order should go for Icelandic categories, per WP:SUR. An example is Bjarni Felixson. Bgwhite (talk) 01:22, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I know, I just realised this yesterday so the last couple that I did were correct. Sorry for the confusion. Big  Dom  07:32, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. I'm always confused. Bgwhite (talk) 19:25, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 April newsletter
Round 2 of this year's WikiCup is over, and so we are down to our final 32, in what could be called our quarter-finals. The two highest scorers from each pool, as well as the next 16 highest scorers overall, have entered round 3, while 30 participants have been eliminated. Pool B's remains our top scorer with over 700 points; he continues to gain high numbers of points for his good articles on The X-Files, but also Millennium and other subjects. He has also gained points for a good topic, a featured list, multiple good article reviews and several did you knows. Pool E's was second, thanks primarily to his biology articles, with Pool H's  coming in third, with an impressive 46 did you knows, mostly on the subject of baseball. Casliber and Cwmhiraeth both scored over 600 points. Pools E and H proved our most successful, with each seeing 5 members qualify for round 3, while Pools C and D were the least, with each seeing only 3 reach round 3. However, it was Pool G which saw the lowest scoring, with a little under 400 points combined; Pool H, the highest scoring group, saw over triple that score.

65 points was the lowest qualifying score for round 3; significantly higher than the 11 required to enter round 2, and also higher than the 41 required to reach round 3 last year. However, in 2010, 100 points were needed to secure a place in round 3. 16 will progress to round 4. In round 3, 150 points was the 16th highest score, though, statistically, people tend to up their game a little in later rounds. Last year, 76 points secured a place, while in 2010, a massive 250 points were needed. Guessing how many points will be required is not easy. We still have not seen any featured portals or topics this year, but, on the subject of less common content types, a small correction needs to be made to the previous newsletter: File:Wacht am Rhein map (Opaque).svg, our first featured picture, was the work of both and, the latter of whom has also gone on to score with File:Map of the Battle of Guam, 1944.svg. Bonus points also continue to roll in; this round, earned triple points for her good articles on William the Conqueror and the Middle Ages, Casliber and Cwmhiraeth both earned triple points for their work on Western Jackdaw, now a good article,  earned triple points for her work on lettuce and work by  to ready antimony for good article status earned him triple points. managed to expand Vitus Bering far enough for a did you know, which was also worth triple points. All of these highly important topics featured on 50 or more Wikipedias at the start of the year.

An article on the WikiCup in the Wikimedia Blog, "Improving Wikipedia with friendly competition", was posted at the end of April. This may be of interest to those who are signed up to this newsletter, as well as serving as another way to draw attention to our project. Also, we would again like to thank and, for continued help behind the scenes. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk &bull; email) and The ed17 (talk &bull; email) 23:04, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Non-free files missing a rationale
Hi. According to Database reports/Non-free files missing a rationale you have a number of files missing a rationale template. Perhaps you could have a look? It should be easy to find the files if you sort by uploader. --MGA73 (talk) 10:40, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 May newsletter
We're halfway through round 3 (or the quarter finals, if you prefer) and things are running smoothly. We're seeing very high scoring; as of the time of writing, the top 16 all have over 90 points. This has already proved to be more competative than this time last year- in 2011, 76 points secured a place, while in 2010, a massive 250 was the lowest qualifying score. People have also upped their game slightly from last round, which is to be expected as we approach the end of the competition. Leading Pool A is, whose points have mostly come from a large number of did you knows on marine biology. Pool B's leader,, is for the first time not our highest scorer at the time of newsletter publication, but his good articles on The X-Files and Millenium keep him in second place overall. leads Pool C, our quietest pool, with content in a variety of areas on a variety of topics. Pool D is led by, our current overall leader. Nearly half of Casliber's points come from his triple-scored Western Jackdaw, which is now a featured article.

This round has seen an unusually high number of featured lists, with nearly one in five remaining participants claiming one, and one user,, claiming two. Miyagawa's featured list, 1936 Summer Olympics medal table, was even awarded double points. By comparison, good article reviews seem to be playing a smaller part, and featured topics portals remain two content-types still unutilised in this competition. Other than that, there isn't much to say! Things are coming along smoothly. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 23:24, 31 May 2012 (UTC)