User talk:BigGuyFish

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March 2023
Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Thank you. - w o lf  23:00, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Added note: This applies to your past few edits actually. Also, it would be helpful if you left an edit summary with each edit to explain your changes. Lastly, please use the preview feature to check your edits before saving them. This will help reduce errors and the number of entries in the page history. Thank you - w o lf  23:07, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Japanese aircraft carrier Shinano. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. - w o lf  23:54, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Ok, I won’t change it back if you don’t think I should, but I also wanted to know if the width of the battleship Musachi is right on her page, as her width is 7 feet less than the Yamato. I didn’t edit it to the same though, as I wanted someone with more experience to if the information was incorrect. BigGuyFish (talk) 01:06, 26 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Note: This also applies to your edit at List of longest naval ships, despite it just being reverted. I am also going to strongly suggest you read WP:BRD and WP:EW before you continue making such edits. - w o lf  00:00, 26 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Ok, but I just was wondering on the site militaryfandom.com ships like the IJN Akagi are listed at 816 feet and 800 feet for the Yamato, and 873 feet for the Shinano. I’m pretty sure those are those ships running lengths as their wiki lengths are much over that, and that would mean Shinano is also well over her stated wiki length, or your lengths for other Japanese ships would be wrong. Please see if anything I said made sense and if anything needs changed, thank you. BigGuyFish (talk) 17:44, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * You absolutely cannot go by a site like fandom, as it falls under WP:UGC (it's site that anyone can edit, much like Wikipedia, but doesn't require content be supported by sourcing as Wikipedia does. Even then, Wikipedia is not considered as reliable source by our own policies.) I've linked WP:RS for you several times, so I hope you have read it. It is one of the guidelines here that you need to be familiar with if you wish to edit this site. I would also strongly encourage you to read through the 'welcome' template I posted at the top of this page; all of it, including all the links. It contains a great deal of useful information that editors need to know if they wish to edit Wikipedia. - w o lf  20:24, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, but can you please check my other question about the Musashi’s page. BigGuyFish (talk) 21:20, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't see how my last reply doesn't address that. All content on WP must be supported by sourcing. It requires a source to be added, and if it's properly sourced, then it requires a source to be changed or removed. So, if you want to change the length of a ship, first check to see if it's already sourced. If it's not sourced, (or sourced properly), then you can change it, provided you add a reliable source to support your edit. If it is already properly sourced, but you have another reliable source with conflicting informarion (eg: it has the length you want to change to article to), then before you change anything, you should go to the article talk page and start a discussion. Other editors will help decide the issue there. To edit this project, you need to know what you're doing. This isn't Fandom where people just pop in and change whatever they want. Yes, there are a lot of polcies & guidelines here, and a huge manual of style to follow, as well as oft-cited essays and other widely-accepted practices (eg: WP:BRD is a major one). It's a lot to learn for new editors, but there is also a lot of assistance available. That said, I have two questions for you; 1) do you even have a reliable source that supports the length you want to change the article to? 2) Have you done the reading I suggested above? - w o lf  01:20, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I was wondering about the battleship Musachi’s page as I think her width is wrong, I don’t even know your talking about in that last paragraph as it didn’t refer to anything I asked. BigGuyFish (talk) 01:39, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

And yet it's information you need to know. Also, you didn't answer either of the questions I asked, both of which directly relate to this discussion. Anyway, as for length, in the infobox for the articles Yamato-class battleship, Japanese battleship Yamato and Japanese battleship Musashi, they all state "263 m (862 ft 10 in)" (with a source attached on the class page), so hopefully that resolves any issue there, The Shinano was converted to a carrier so it makes sense for her to have different values in her characteristics, (but I have no idea why you mentioned Akagi.) As for "width", referred to as "beam", on the Yamato and Yamato-class pages it is listed as "38.9 m (127 ft 7 in)", on the Musashi page, it's listed as "36.9 m (121 ft 1 in)". I can't tell you why at the momemt, it's likely a typo, but there are a few things to take into account; all three pages are featured articles, they go through a good deal of scrutiny to achieve this. Another issue is that while these values have sourcing attached, I don't have access (eg: it's not an online source, it appears to be a book, one I don't have). Also, while the beam for Musashi was the same as the other two ships as far back as 2004, it was changed to it's current value back in 2013. Ten years is a long time for a typo to go unnoticed. I'm familiar with the editor that made the change, he's been on WP for a long time and does very good work, specifically on warship articles.So with all that in mind, the best course of action is to ask him. Either there's a reason for the discrepancy, or it's a typo. Watch the Musashi talk page and hopefully there'll be an answer soon. - w o lf  04:15, 27 March 2023 (UTC)


 * As for your questions, I do have a reliable source, it’s a book, and I also looked at the articles you posted. -fish 2:57 27 March 2023 BigGuyFish (talk) 18:57, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * It's good that you have a source, but in the future you'll also need to WP:CITE them when you edit. It's also good that you did that reading, it should help you as you go. There's a lot more to learn, but as I said, assistance is always available. (I took a quick look at the rest of your edits to see if there's anything else you might need help with, but didn't find any unresolved issues.) Lastly, if you hadn't seen it yet, there has already been a reply on the Musashi page, the discrepancy has been explained and addressed in the article. Have a nice day - w o lf  22:57, 27 March 2023 (UTC)