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Aw, spoilsport
I liked the idea of Peter Rabbit eating his name. .

Of course now Thérèse Coffey will have to send you to a "re-education camp" for your thoughtcrime. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 14:48, 25 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks!
 * Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 15:11, 25 September 2022 (UTC)


 * If you have an interest in coinage rather than grammar, you may like to check out WikiProject Numismatics? I don't know whether it is good bad or indifferent, as my interest is peripheral. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:57, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

October 2022
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 * My username relates to my interests:
 * "Big Blue" - Aircraft, the RAF
 * Crayfish - small freshwater lobsters, of which the Blue ones are most prized
 * Kray Twins - British gangsters. And I was born a twin, in the UK
 * There is also a pun in there relating to computing -IBM (known as Big Blue) and Cray
 * But if I have to change it, so be it
 * Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 12:52, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Bird taxonomy
Hi, I've noticed that you have been changing the genus of birds in Wikipedia articles such as the blue crane, the demoiselle crane and the bluethroat.

English Wikipedia uses the taxonomy and the common names of the IOC World Bird List as explained here.

There are other world checklists including BLI/IUCN, Clements, and Howard & Moore 4. A project has been established to create a single taxonomy for world birds by the "Working Group Avian Checklists" – you can read about it here. It uses the IOC list as a starting point. - Aa77zz (talk) 09:16, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I did not realise. I did check the Talk pages, but did not see anything regarding wp:consensus. I did notice that Anthropoides had been wp:BLAR with the note Change to a redirect to Grus - wikipedia follows IOC classification but no explanation of why, who decided this, etc. So I thought and wp:BeBold Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 11:21, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia has used the taxonomy of the IOC for a long time. In 2017 this was confirmed by a vote of the bird editors who were active at that time - see the archive here. By following a single authority we can keep article consistent - species, genera, families etc. The BirdLife International (BLI) taxonomy used by the IUCN (see here) lags the IOC and Clements - probably because BLI lack the resources to keep up to date with all the changes. For example the classification of the hummingbirds was reorganised based on a big study published 2014 (see the tribe Trochilini - 11 genera resurrected etc) - but BLI haven't yet implemented these changes. - Aa77zz (talk) 12:13, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Edit reverts
Howdy. If you are changing a redirect into a full article, you don’t need to hit revert. You can just edit. Reverting implies something is wrong and you want to return to an older version of the article. awkwafaba (📥) 16:38, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Move reverted
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WP:BLAR
Blank-and-redirect explicitly disallows copy/paste pagemoves. Please keep this in mind going forward. Primefac (talk) 10:35, 18 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Are you sure? The advice page you sent me does not say that!
 * I had no choice to do what I did as I could not move the page as the alternative name already existed in the articlespace
 * Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 22:19, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

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Laysan fan palm
Hi. Saw your edit here. I reverted and redid it as I think it's better to use an Automatic taxobox with manual parameters. Please take a look just to make sure you're happy. I also put the taxonbar back. Thanks. YorkshireExpat (talk) 21:03, 2 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes, OK. Thanks.
 * That looks a lot better!
 * Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 13:59, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Overlinking
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February 2023
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 * Thanks, I knew that.
 * What you don't seem to know is that I could not Move the page as the target already existed (as a Redirect page)
 * Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 17:37, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * @Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins In any future situations, please visit WP:RM/TR, there are page movers such as myself that can fulfill those requests without messing up the version history. Thanks! ~ Eejit43 ( talk ) 18:20, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

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Taxonbar placement
Taxonbars should not be placed above an External links section, as you had done at mayhaw, nor above a navbox as you had at Pildra. Taxonbars go at the end of the page. The only things that should come after them are Authority control (if present), categories and stub-sorting templates (if present). Plantdrew (talk) 17:28, 14 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you Plantdrew Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 17:41, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * Many, many Thanks for the Barnstar!! You made my Christmas
 * I think I have finished editing for now. It's sure a good start
 * Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 17:05, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * Thank you very much!! It's always nice to get praised for helping to fix Wikipedia! Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 19:18, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

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Sandbox
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 * Thanks. And Thanks for deleting stuff from MY Sandbox. I'm sorry you had to do it three times, yet only warned me now. This crackdown probably explains why I have seen articles produced from Drafts with lots of <-- remarks all over them.
 * As you seem to be a Very Important Wikipedian, perhaps you can convince the higher-ups to simply filter Users Sandboxes out of Categories instead? So that we juniors can actually experiment with a FULL page preview in our private, testing areas ?? I'm sure that is not beyond the realms of standard coding? Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 14:09, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Canterbury knobbled weevil
Hi,

Thank you for your recent work on several Holocene extinctions by region articles. I noticed that you added the Canterbury knobbled weevil to List of New Zealand species extinct in the Holocene. Typically, species and subspecies are only included in Holocene extinctions by region if they are extinct, possibly extinct, locally extinct in the entire region under discussion (eg, all of New Zealand), extinct in the wild, or formerly extinct in the wild and since reintroduced. Formerly extinct in the wild and since reintroduced is a grey area, but I tolerate it. Lazarus taxa are typically not included. Note that the South Island takahē and New Zealand storm petrel, both Lazarus taxa, are not included in List of New Zealand species extinct in the Holocene.

The Canterbury knobbled weevil is a Lazarus taxon, but it doesn't meet any of the normal criteria for inclusion as listed above. Thus, I would recommend deleting the Canterbury knobbled weevil from List of New Zealand species extinct in the Holocene.

If you would like to change our approach to Lazarus taxa in Holocene extinctions by region articles, I would recommend applying your new approach consistently to all Holocene extinctions by region articles and explicitly stating in the introduction section of each article that Lazarus taxa are included. But first, I would recommend starting a discussion to get a consensus.

Again, thanks for helping out. Columbianmammoth (talk) 22:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Okay, I have removed it. Though, if you check it was already in - or at least the reference was. I just expanded on it. Thank you for your advice and praise!Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 22:40, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for noticing and fixing that! I did some major work on New Zealand species extinct in the Holocene in 2022-2023, but I must've missed that reference.
 * Lazarus taxa were never extinct in any sense of the word - extinct, extinct in the wild, or locally extinct. So, I figure it's best not to include them in any Holocene extinctions by region articles.
 * Keep up the good work! Columbianmammoth (talk) 02:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Multiple reverts
There is no need to individually revert multiple edits in order to restore an article to a prior state as you did at Bryconadenos. Just select the last "good" version in the article history, and edit the that version with a edit summary that mentions restoring the prior version. Plantdrew (talk) 23:53, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Edits to List of Royal Air Force schools
Hello Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins,

I have changed List of Royal Air Force schools due to your edits. With this edit you had added the dates "1943–98, 2003-present" to No. 1 Radio School RAF but kept the original reference which was a book published in 1999. Their is no way that a book published in 1999, published that the unit reformed in 2003. The book says "Current at 1st April 1997 at Cosford. In future can you please either move the reference across or replace with a new reference(s).

With this edit you added " became Joint School of Photography" to School of Photography RAF. I did not add this since my copy of "Royal Air Force flying training and support units since 1912", written in 2007 by Ray Sturtivant and John Hamlin says the Joint School was a brand new unit and the RAF unit was merged into it but this web article Defence School of Photography (DSOP) at MOD.UK contradicts this. Additionally it wasn't appropiate to add about the joint school since the unit had two sets of different dates, and i didn't to confuse readers, an example of this is "School of General Reconnaissance (1938–40, 1946–47)". Their are units within that section that due have multiple dates but these are dates the unit was reformed and disbanded using the same name.

Gavbadger (talk) 19:22, 12 July 2024 (UTC)


 * OK. I get your points. But that now means there is not a link to the current Defence School of Photography from this list article.
 * I have also created a page Draft:No. 2 School of Technical Training RAF that could do with an expert eye, if you can find the time?
 * Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 20:10, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Frederik Petrus Koumans moved to draftspace
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 * Please see Pier Giorgio Bianco, created in the same way on 14 November 2022‎, not by me. Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 08:40, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

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