User talk:Bignole/Archive/2008/September

Clark
Nice job with that article, btw, it's looking great so far. Uh... I think the article easily stands up as it is, but if you want to wait until it's finished that's up to you. Depends how long you think it'll take you to write up the literature section I guess. Have you settled on a main image yet?  Paul    730  05:25, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Definitely go with #1. Is that a personal screenshot?     Paul    730  13:44, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * (Didn't see your above comment) Wow, you're going to buy and read all the books just for the article? Have to admire your dedication. With the Buffy article, I pretty much just covered all the novels in a sentence or two.  The problem is, she appears in almost all of them, and they don't really develop her character very much, so it would become a case of describing inconsequential plots; "In Book X, Buffy battled a fire demon, in Book Y she travels in time...  I can see Smallville being a similar case; you don't summarise every episode, so why summarise every book?  Maybe look at Zythe's work at Jack Harkness and Ianto Jones for other examples?  Um... I kind of want to see the article up and running asap, but I don't want to push you if you'd rather wait until it's finished.  I guess if it's in the mainspace, there's more chance of other editors giving it a copyedit.     Paul    730  13:56, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks great! I see you managed to get the literature section up and running for now. I'm busy tonight but I'll sit down and give it a good copyedit as soon as I can.  Question though, should we maybe crop the image so it's less wide?  It seems to stretch the infobox and take up a lot of room.     Paul    730  17:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that looks better IMO. Btw, have you noticed that there's no introduction for Lex in the TV section?  Seems like a strange ommission?     Paul    730  17:30, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Pretend you don't know who Lex is when you read the article, he's never introduced. I imagine he'd be mentioned in the lead since their relationship is a main part of the show, but shouldn't we at least introduce him in the article proper?  Just something like "Clark forms a friendship with billionaire Lex Luthor after saving his life, however their relationship is blah blah..."    Paul    730  18:06, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't like any of the images to be honest, but I respect your choice in the end: a close-up. Alientraveller (talk) 19:00, 23 August 2008 (UTC)


 * That was cool. What do you make of fast Jason?  I actually found Jason scarier when he could run, but I prefer the more iconic zombie Jason.  Aren't they reimagining Jason quite a bit?  Making him skinnier and more intelligent or something.  I heard they're explaining how he can disappear and reappear randomly by revealing that he travels through underground tunnels... meh.     Paul    730  20:53, 23 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I liked the third act of F13III, Jason was cool in that, running around all over the place. The cheesy deaths in FvJ were okay, you couldn't do a movie with that title as anything other than an onscreen comic book.  That said, I hope this new movie is a return to proper horror for the F13 series.  The tunnel idea doesn't impress me at all, it seems like unnecessary exposition.  Leatherface having a skin condition and Michael being a victim of child abuse were one thing, but lets leave Jason with a bit of mystery.  The teleporting thing only really bothered me in VIII, where it really did go beyond a joke.     Paul    730  00:10, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I didn't expect to see Jason shovelling his way underground singing "Hi ho hi ho". :P I just mean it's unncessary explanation for something that doesn't need explained.  It'd be like them explaining why Michael walks slowly or something.  Don't we already know why Jason wears a hockey mask?  I thought it was because the kids at CCL made him feel ugly so he felt like he had to hide his face.  I'm sounding rather negative about everything, but I am looking forward to this new film.  I take it the severed head was Pamela... I wonder how attention they'll give her in the movie?     Paul    730  00:35, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I am fond of ol' Pamela, I hope she gets her due. I wonder why they're being so secretive, I mean, at the end of the day it's only a Friday the 13th movie.  I doubt anyone except hardcore fans actually give a shit about it.  I just hope it feels like F13.  RZH was a decent movie with some cool ideas but it didn't really feel like a Halloween film to me.     Paul    730  00:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I just finished the first disc of season four. I was getting a little bored during season 3, and Terminator kind of distracted me for a while.  I was confused during the season 3 finale, because I wasn't sure if that blonde bird was meant to be Supergirl and they just retconned it later or something.  It was pretty good though, not as good as the season 2 finale IMO.  Have I mentioned I'm starting to really like Lionel, btw?  You're right about season 4 being more light hearted, I actually quite liked Lois, it was nice to have someone for Clark to bicker with.  I still think the characters are the most unconvinving high school students ever.     Paul    730  02:48, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I didn't like Lionel at first because I thought he was creepy-looking. But I think John Glover probably is one of the best actors in the show, he's very entertaining to watch, as you say.  I always thought having Lex's dad be a character sounded kind of lame, but he's actually been a great part of the show.  By "unconvincing high school students", I meant how Lana has no legal guardian and co-owns and manages a business, despite being a minor who's apparently attending high school full-time.  Then she fucks off to France, then comes back and goes back to high school... ???  Then you have Chloe, who spends all her time solving crimes, breaking into facilities, and taking down evil business men.  Does she ever actually go to class?  It's nitpicky I know, but I just don't think they make very believable teenagers. At least in Buffy, the kids lead relativly normal lives and the adults don't know what they get up to.     Paul    730  03:05, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

The stories in Buffy are a lot more centred on the high school though; everything takes place at the school or is a metaphor for high school. Also, they have Principal Snyder harrassing them constantly (when was the last time we saw the Smallville principal?) and when Buffy's mom does find out what's going on, it's dealt with very seriously. Giles is an authority figure, so there is that element that they're school kids and he's looking after them in a way. I dunno, the kids in Buffy just feel a lot more like actual teenagers, whereas the ones in Smallville seem to be twenty-somethings who happen to attend high school occasionally.  Paul    730  11:19, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The school doesn't get shut down because the Mayor is evil and covers everything up; there's a couple of scenes where he and Principal Synder are discussing cover stories. The police and probably other authority figures are in line with the Mayor.  Teenagers fighting demons isn't unbelievable because it's obviously fantasy.  But a 14-year-old girl co-owning and managing a coffee shop feels far-fetched IMO. It's hard to explain. I don't mind them looking like adults because that's the charm of American TV. :P    Paul    730  19:14, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Lol, stop using logic to defend Lana and her horrible Egyptian-themed coffee shop! :P I thought the way Nell just abandoned Lana was weird and out-of-character.  It reminded me of Buffy's dad, who went from being a pretty decent father to negligent arsehole for no apparent reason.     Paul    730  20:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I guess, but it seemed weird how she just moved to a different city and left Lana with a neighbour.    Paul    730  22:38, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I think Joyce thought Giles was tutoring Buffy in history or something. Pretty sure that's the cover story they gave her in season 1.  I'm sure the other students were suspicious about their relationship though, Harmony questioned it in one episode.  As for the parents of Sunnydale in general, it's a common theme in the show that parents are clueness or uninterested in the lives of their children.  It's a bit OTT sometimes, but it's an appropiate metaphor for how teenagers feel at that age; originally, they weren't going to have any parents in the show, Buffy's mom was going to be an unseen character.  The episode "Gingerbread" explores it further, we find out that the parents are aware to a certain extent of the weird events in the town but live in denial about it.     Paul    730  00:04, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Obviously Jonathan and Martha are, but they're the perfect parents everyone wishes they had. I doubt most people's relationships with their parents are like Clark's.  (Not dissing Jonathan and Martha, I like them).     Paul    730  00:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I clarified that I wasn't criticising - merely observing - because I knew you would get all defensive. :P Most of the characters and features of the Superman mythology are idealised anyway, including the city. And I think Smallville does a good job of infusing those Mary Sue-style characters with depth (especially Jonathan, who's a surprisingly flawed character, in a good way). Joyce Summers isn't my favourite Buffy character. She's obviously meant to be a good mother, but I think she was written quite inconsistantly and often comes off as a bad parent. Sometimes I think she seems like an older version of Buffy (standing up to Faith in "Who Are You") while other times she's just an annoying bitch (pretty much all of "Gingerbread"). The other parents are basically charicatures, but their bad parenting give Xander and Willow interesting character traits (Xander's inferiority complex, Willow's need to prove herself). But to reiterate my original point, because I think it got lost in this tangent, I think early Buffy does a better job of capturing how it feels to be a teenager, while the Smallville characters feel more like 20-somethings shoehorned into high school.  Paul    730  00:50, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The premiere was kind of deja vu, because I saw that episode on TV years ago. It was good, the coolness of the flying scene goes without saying and Lois is always a fun character to have around.  I think Lois probably is my favourite Superman character, I seem to like her in all versions.  I like Lex as a conflicted good guy, but from what I've seen the films, he's not very interesting once he becomes evil.  The episode with Clark as a footballer was kind of lame, jock politics not really being something that interests me.     Paul    730  01:44, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I've not watched past that episode yet. I know he plays all season, but please tell there's not much more football drama to come.  T-1000 rip-offs are sometimes cool, but the one in Smallville was too minor for me to really care about him one way or the other.  A lot of these meteor freaks have cool abilities, it's a shame to see them wasted on such pointless characters.     Paul    730  02:03, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I did like that episode and how it brought back old characters. I liked how Tina Greer was recurring as well.  Although I do find it kind of amusing/annoying how every teenager in Smallville except the core cast seems to be a raging psychopath.  I get that they need villians for the story, but there's more kids at Belle Reve than Smallville High.     Paul    730  03:05, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * That was really apparent in "Leech". Are there any meteor freaks you see as potential villains for Superman down the line (not onscreen, just in-universe)?  I can picture Eric Summers trying to get Clark's powers back for the rest of his life, being one of those minor foes who always ends up in prison.  I'd like to see some meteor freaks use their power for good though... can't remember if there was any so far.  I know that's kind of covered by Flash, Aquaman and Green Arrow later in the show.     Paul    730  20:31, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Just watched "Run" and "Transference", two really good episodes in a row. "Run" was really relevant to what we were just talking about, muties managing to redeem themselves rather than being straight-up villains.  I liked the character of Bart, he was obnoxious and I quite liked that.  "Transference" was one of the best Smallvilles I've seen, I love body-swap episodes, they're always a great opportunity for actors to stretch themselves and have a little fun.     Paul    730  22:40, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I thought the race was cool, but I've seen it before in trailers and fan videos. Lol, was that "tingle" moment for you. ;) (I mock, but I do know what you mean about tingles, I kept getting them during Sarah Connor because I love the Terminator mythology.)  Hmm, it's hard to judge who was the better performance.  I find that the villain-in-the-hero's-body is usually the more memorable because they have more fun in the role.  John Glover was great, but his part consisted mostly of being confused and upset, you know?  SMG blew Eliza Dushku away in the Buffy body swap; her body language, tone of voice, everything was just so perfectly Faith.  That's a personal favourite episode of mine, have you seen it?  Speaking of good actors btw, I liked Clark's cellmate, he was funny.  He seemed familar.     Paul    730  23:50, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I dunno, you've just mentioned how Smallville gives you tingles, I wondered if that was one of those moments since you brought it up. Um... duh, obviously Flash outran Clark, he's the fastest man alive.  It would be kind of a cheat if some silly alien could outrun him.  Sarah Connor isn't perfect but I'm extremely forgiving of it cos I see great potential.  How much of a Terminator fan are you, I can't remember?  The Buffy body swap episode was when I started to like Faith for the first time (wasn't a fan initially).  Like I said, SMG is brilliant as Faith.  She starts the episode mockingly impersonating Buffy "You can't do that, because it's wrong", and then by the end, she says those words and means them.  I think Faith might be one of the best Buffyverse characters in terms of writing, probably because she has such few appearances and all of them are crucial to her development.  That Manoux guy was in Angel, that's where I knew him from.  He was kind of annoying in that, actually.     Paul    730  00:18, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Tom Welling's body language as Lionel was very accurate. He was also very funny; the scene where he asked Martha for a hug made me laugh, but it was also kind of gross because there was that incesty vibe to it, especially when Smallvilles very own ejaculation metaphor happened.  Urgh
 * The SFX in Sarah Connor are okay, but there's really not that much of it to be honest, and what they do have seems to be mostly practical rather than CGI, which is fine by me. The acting and characterization is more controversial, obviously because people already know and love these characters played by different people.  I actually like Lena Headey as Sarah, although many don't; I think she does a good job of emulating Hamilton while making the character slightly softer.  I think that was kind of necessary, since her arc in T2 was basically her becoming less human and more like a Terminator herself, they had to kind of dial that back a little to continue her character.  I like to think that she and John have grown closer since T2, and that's why she's not as hard as she was.  People have criticised Dekker as John for being too "emo", which I can understand but it doesn't bother me because I don't think he'll stay that way for long, judging from the season 2 promos.  Cameron the Terminator is a mystery to me, but a mystery that's very entertaining to watch.  The supporting characters are very interesting and likable IMO.
 * And the bad SFX and dated haircuts in T1 are charming. :)   Paul    730  00:46, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

I got the boxset for like £20, which I thought was great considering it was just out. John is kind of emo but hopefully it'll make his arc more noticeable because in a few years time you can look back and see how much he's grown. Being 9 episodes doesn't bother me at all, I quite like that they had a short introductory season, and then it can get into the nitty gritty in season 2. I'd rather they were patient. I also like how some of the supporting characters from season 1 have been elevated to cast regulars, feels like they've earned their place. Episode 9 doesn't really feel like a season finale, but it was poignant enought to be satisfying while still leaving me wanting more..  Paul    730  01:13, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * He plays a soldier from the future, but not John. We've not seen future John in the series yet.  Green's really cool actually, his character is quite ambiguous and he fills the "hot guy" role that John doesn't.  There's also James Ellison, an FBI agent investigating the Connors, and Cromartie, the main "evil Terminator" of the series.  (Maybe don't go on those articles though, if you don't want to be spoiled).     Paul    730  15:00, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Not really. Ellison's one has a merge tag.  People wanted Derek (Brian Austin Green) to have a page as well but people argued against it so he's relegated to the list.  I'd stay clear of that whole debate until you see the show, I totally spoiled myself.    Paul    730  15:42, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The Cameron article's not bad actually, there's a bit of fancruft that needs purging but there's a fair number of sources. I might give that a spit and polish at some point.  The boxset I bought had fuck all special features though, so that won't be much help in writing articles.     Paul    730  22:16, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ooh, lovely. Nothing like a diarrhea story to make me want to watch that(!)  I like commentaries when they're funny and chatty like that, but when all they talk about is locations and lighting they're so boring.  BTW, what you make of all those categories added to the Clark page?  Are "DC Comics" categories really relevant to that particular incarnation of the character?  That anon has added categories to the Buffy article as well that I'm not too happy with.     Paul    730  02:08, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Wasn't he hired for Lex because of his comedic talents (pretty sure that was on the character article, can't be arsed checking)? Omg, I've never even heard of that film before but it looks hilarious (in a bad way). Kind of like White Chicks, which I can't help but love. What do you make of the Buffy Summers categories, the anon added all these "Fictonal martial artists" type categories that I think are redundant to the Slayer category. Do you want to remove any you think aren't relevant?  Paul    730  02:23, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Break
Thanks. Wouldn't TV characters be redundant to Smallville characters, in Clark's case? Btw, I was reading an interview with TCCC producer guy, and he was saying that "Last year was one big premise pilot and now the series is raring to go", which is pretty much what I thought. He also said that season 2 would be more episodic, to make it accessible for new viewers, and that Cameron's backstory would be explored. I'm happy about the Cameron thing, she's quite a bizarre, inconsistant character and one of my concerns was that the writers didn't have a clear plan for where they were taking her. Hopefully this will resolve some stuff.  Paul    730  03:20, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't have the channel it aired on over here; it didn't air on terrestrial TV. The DVDs were the first time I'd seen it, which I'm kind of happy about because I could get stuck right in and not have to wait a week between episodes.  I'll watch season 2 if I get a chance, but I'm happy to wait for the DVD.     Paul    730  03:50, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I watched "Spell" last night, and really enjoyed it. It was fun seeing magic in the Smallvilleverse, and to see a saucier side of the female characters.  The scene where Clark was dancing in front of that college guy had me laughing out loud.  Btw, I picked up that Halloween: 30 Years of Terror comic today and it is really good.  If there's anywhere close to where you live/work that sells comics, I seriously recommend that you pick it up because it's just a one-shot and it'd be well worth the effort.  There's a really minor easter egg where it turns out the story from 4 - 6 is actually a comic book created by Tommy Doyle (who looks like the original actor does now); he apparently decided to turn his childhood trauma into a comic book where he looks like Paul Rudd and battles the Thorn cult.  I thought that was a really nice, subtle way to pay tribute to the Jamie Lloyd movies.  There's also a sad story where Laurie wonders what would have happened if she'd never met Michael in 1978, and some really sick Halloween pranks by the man himself.     Paul    730  13:50, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. That anon has been pissing me off for a while now, they have a habit of adding pointless and wordy information just for the sake of it, and seem oblivious to the fact that they've been reverted numerous times.  They did the same over at the Buffy Wikia a while back.     Paul    730  00:29, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Batman edit
Hey Bignole.. The person himself may not be that notable, but the article is excellent, it summarizes a lot of previous sentiment, and it should be included with or without reference to its author. And BTW I am not that person, I am someone else. I do believe the article is worthy of inclusion however. Please advise. Mr manilow (talk) 16:12, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Bignole, why don't you read the article and see for yourself whether it merits inclusion?? It is really a beautifully written and very astute article. It relates dynamically to everything that the concluding paragraph. In fact, as per an item on the discussion page, I think that the final paragraph should ideally be broken off, with its own theme/topic:

Batman and the "End of 9/11"? What do you say? Mr manilow (talk) 16:17, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Smallville print coverage
Hi. I've got some Smallville print coverage in my TV Zone Special 54 (December 2003) that may include something worthwhile for wikipedia (and you).
 * http://s52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/sgeureka/wikipedia/tvzones54_26_family_values.jpg
 * http://s52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/sgeureka/wikipedia/tvzones54_27_family_values.jpg
 * http://s52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/sgeureka/wikipedia/tvzones54_28_family_values.jpg
 * http://s52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/sgeureka/wikipedia/tvzones54_31_family_values.jpg
 * http://s52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/sgeureka/wikipedia/tvzones54_32_family_values.jpg
 * http://s52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/sgeureka/wikipedia/tvzones54_88_review_smallville_s2_s.jpg

I also recently bought a cheap package of various Cult TV magazines on eBay, which included The official Smallville magazine #20 (May/June 2007). Since I don't watch Smallville (and don't intend to any time soon), this magazine is useless to me and I'll probably throw it away (won't get anything on German eBay for it), but it may have something for you. I've scanned the index (below), so if there's a useful article for you in there, I can scan the rest.
 * http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/sgeureka/wikipedia/official_smallville_issue10_2_index.jpg

I am probably going to take these scans offline again after some time, so you should save them to your harddrive if you want to use them later. (If you already got these magazines or don't care about them, ignore me.) – sgeureka t•c 06:59, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Just checking... did you mean from Smallville News (p. 6) to Raya's Resurrection (p. ~77)? If so, I'll scan them in batches next week (magazine is at home but scanner is elsewhere where I won't be until Monday Tuesday evening). I am just not hosting the scans forever because of album size and bandwidth issues and *cough* copyright issues *cough*, so as long as you save them to your harddrive within a month or so, I'll just keep saving them to http://s52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/sgeureka/wikipedia/ (ignore the few non-Smallville scans). – sgeureka t•c 12:49, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

It was Monday after all, the first batch is at http://s52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/sgeureka/wikipedia/ (the old scans are deleted now). Since I won't scan the ads and the "intro" images only listing the article title and the writer, I'll give the authors below (and ahead of time): – sgeureka t•c 14:35, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * p. 18 "Raw Justice" written by Tom Inkel
 * p. 26 "Green Arrow" by Bryan Cairns
 * p. 32 "Impulse" by Bryan Cairns
 * p. 38 "Aquaman" by Alan Ritchson
 * p. 44 "Cyborg" by Bryan Cairns
 * p. 51 "Keeping Up with the Jones" by Jonathan Wilkins
 * p. 66 "Storyville" by Tom Inkel


 * It's not listed as a backissue at expressmagtitan.com yet, but the cover looks like the bottom right image of the index scan. – sgeureka t•c 06:46, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

New batch ready (you may have to click the Refresh button). – sgeureka t•c 11:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Last batch uploaded. Have fun. :-) – sgeureka t•c 18:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Hi, it's EclipseSSD here. I was wondering if you were interested in helping bring The Texas Chainsaw Massacre franchise article up to GA class. I was thinking, we could base it off the Halloween franchise article, and it'd be really great if the series' article was GA, or maybe one day, FA status. Give me a shout if you're interested, and any suggestions, comments or ideas you may have. Cheers, --EclipseSSD (talk) 15:51, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Jaws
LOL. You reckon The Great Khali would make a good Bond henchman? He would have made a very convincing Jaws I think and are about the same height too. I'd love to see him snap Daniel's Craig little head LOL The Bald One      White cat 20:17, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Texas Chainsaw Massacre Characters
Hi, it's EclipseSSD. Just to let you know that I'm busy dealing with the characters. I'm creating an article for all the characters, but I'm concentrating on the Sawyer family, and I think the family needs to have it's own article, because I'm using a lot of information from the individual character pages and putting it together. I propose to create The Sawyers or any other name if you agree. The other characters can then go on the main character page. --EclipseSSD (talk) 14:55, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

All American Massacre?
I'm not sure this film should be in any article of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, because there doesn't seem to be a lot (if any) references to back up the information about it. Any suggestions on what to do with it? --EclipseSSD (talk) 16:09, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Homer Simpson
Hi, I know you've done a lot of work on television fiction articles and I was wondering if you could take a look at Homer's article. I hope to have it FA ready by the end of the month. At the moment, I'm not too worried about copyediting, I'm specifically after what is missing. Could you take a look and let me know what you think of it and if you think there's anything (ie. more voice info, etc.) missing (especially in the analysis section)? Thanks, Scorpion0422 21:10, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * What structure would you use? It's the one we use on all of our good Simpsons pages (although Homer's is the only one with a section called "biography") -- Scorpion0422 21:16, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * So should "role in The Simpsons" be renamed characterization then? And about saying "In episode X" or "In season Y", generally (or at least, as I understand it), we're supposed to use the citation templates to reveal where we're getting this info from rather than repeating the same stuff over and over again. Especially since the show uses a floating timeline and most of the background information is revealed in flashback episodes. -- Scorpion0422 21:33, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

I've done some rearranging in the article, and I was wondering what you think of this: -- Scorpion0422 21:47, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you use IRC chat? It would make this easier! :)  C t j f 8 3 Talk 22:01, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I mean telling us what to fix on Homer...if you go to and then to the room   wpsimpsons   you can chat...you don't have to  C t j f 8 3 Talk 22:11, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, if you try again, in the top left, it says nickname, type w/e u want, and then in channel, you just type wpsimpsons.  C t j f 8 3 Talk 22:21, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Doomsday
It seemed that excluding "300px" made the image tiny (since it is a typically wide screenshot). MOS:IMAGES says that the image is usually resized to around 300px, but with this measurement removed, it's definitely smaller. What do you think? Hi, by the way. :) I'm busy with graduate school these days, obviously, but I'm killing time before my graduate assistantship later this morning. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 13:43, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, the 300px is supposed to be for the lead image... maybe you are right. I think we can take it out and leave it small.  I guess I just liked all the glorious violent detail in the article. :-P — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 13:48, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Graduate school isn't bad, but I have long classes, too. I had a five-day class last week which was four hours, 8 to 12.  Agonizing, but at least there was a break.  I have a pretty good schedule, though... 5 hours of the graduate assistantship and 10 hours with my part-time job, but nothing on Friday.  There's a lot of teamwork ahead, though.  Gotta go be a GA, later. :) — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 13:50, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Dark Knight?
I don't understand why you keep changing it to say 'Dent appears dead'. He's actually dead. No comic book ressurection. Just dead, it's actually written in the script as that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Savestheday16 (talk • contribs) 21:25, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Please return to WikProject Media franchises
Dear Bignole...You are invited to come back to discuss WikiProject Media franchises. Since you participated in one or more discussions of the project, possibly when it was known as WikiProject Fictional series, I hope to see you return to it. The project needs your participation. Currently there is no activity on the project's talk page about the reorganization which is discouraging. I had great expectations for this project as it touches so many topics but am becoming discouraged. I hope to see you return. LA (If you reply here, please leave me a message on my talk page.) @ 19:19, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Randall Flagg
I managed to fill in the "Citation needed"s seeing that the Concordance covered in most of the missing information. I'm thinking of giving it a lookover later this week and maybe then try renominating it for FA status and I was wondering if you thought it was ready for me to give it another try.--CyberGhostface (talk) 20:39, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The lead was longer but User:DCincarnate cut a lot out. Do you think I should restore it? And although Wikipedia includes spoilers, should I include his fate in the last novel in the opening? I've done a peer review before but it's been a while so I'll do it again.--CyberGhostface (talk) 21:13, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll take a look at some other character FAs and try to apply that to Flagg.--CyberGhostface (talk) 21:33, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Removal of all images of Bond characters
I thought you might be interested to know about the removal of ALL of the images in List of James Bond henchmen in Die Another Day. There has been an argument that "there is no need to have images in the main film articles as we have the character images on the respective lists". If this is the case and given that the deleter of the images on die another intends to do the full whack pretty soon we will be left with no images whatsover of the James Bond film franchise. Is this what you want? The Bald One     White cat 19:28, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

I know all about image criteria of course, I encounter it every day on here. However I am concerned that some images of the main chaarcters are being removed when they do critically help the article rather than decor. I had to restore the image of Zao because it had been removed when it clearly is appropriate The Bald One      White cat 12:06, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

GA Hold on The Dark Knight (film)
The article The Dark Knight (film) (nominated by Gary King as a good article) has been placed on hold. It hasn't failed because it's basically a good article, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:The Dark Knight (film) for things needed to be addressed. -- I noticed you are one of the major contributors to the article so I thought I would give you a heads up. Cheers, Cirt (talk) 22:34, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Update: My points were addressed, passed the article as GA. Cirt (talk) 05:25, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Fringe images
the image I uploaded for the article (temporary, i am thinking), uses a fair use image that I essentially copied from an used in a Lost episode, Berginning of the End. As I culled it from an FA article, I am hoping its fair to presume that the rationale would be pretty durable. Thoughts? - Hexhand (talk) 15:11, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


 * On a side subject, are you suggesting it would be acceptable to link to the series if it were not bold text? I looked over the MOS, and don't seem to see the rule you are alluding to. - Hexhand (talk) 18:19, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Have you been watching this show? I just watched the second episode last night. It's not bad, but the influences seem fairly obvious. It's no Lost for me... — Erik (talk • contrib) - 20:30, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I figured it was like that. And pssh, you're missing out on quality TV with Lost. :)  I present about a loyalty program in 15 minutes... wish me luck. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 22:37, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Eddie Brock
Yeah, I swear I had seen that before, but maybe it was changed. I just wanted the whole argument to get settledOnepiece226 (talk) 01:22, 19 September 2008 (UTC)Onepiece226

New Smallville
Best episode in years, no? Chloe's development as a character has come round to a place where she has a real importance to the series as a whole (unlike Lana, ever) and super-intelligence as a power makes a lot of sense and explains away her years of super-hacking. The JL stuff was awesome, and Lois' character arc has brought her to become at last the Lois we know from the comics. I think Al/Miles jumping ship did the show a world of good!~ZytheTalk to me! 13:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry
If my revert of your edit offended or upset you, please accept my apology. I am still learning how television articles work, and sometimes, I get a little excitable. - Hexhand (talk) 17:10, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Smallville
Hey, nice job with Lionel Luthor. I nominated it at DYK (hope you don't mind).  Corn.u.co.pia /  Disc.us.sion  15:38, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * lol, my bad, I actually meant Lex Luthor (Smallville) on my comment above. But still, Lionel's page has improved significantly. Anyways, I don't want to be a nuisance, but the pictures on the pages of Lex and Lionel are excellent! Really good, maybe Clark could have a similar one?  Corn.u.co.pia /  Disc.us.sion  01:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I agree, somewhat. The picture with Green Arrow, once cropped, will actually look good. But didn't you say it was illegal to cut out the watermark?  Corn.u.co.pia /  Disc.us.sion  02:17, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I saw earlier, and it looks much better. I'll also try to find a better pic.  Corn.u.co.pia /  Disc.us.sion  02:25, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Damn, that was fast. I'll nominate it for DYK, but before I do, is there any fact you like?  Corn.u.co.pia /  Disc.us.sion  05:01, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Excellent, I'll add it right away. BTW, do you think the Smallville character pages warrant a reception section? The better Lost character pages have one, e.g. Nikki and Paulo, Martin Keamy and Miles Straume. Just a thought.  Corn.u.co.pia /  Disc.us.sion  05:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, I guess either way is fine. Well anyways, I guess only Chloe is left? Right? What are you going to do once the character pages are done? The reformatting of the season pages?  Corn.u.co.pia /  Disc.us.sion  05:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good.  Corn.u.co.pia /  Disc.us.sion  05:43, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh sure. The pages were full of junk, and I deleted a lot of the unwanted info. I believe I can get the pilot to GA status, but the rest need too much work. I think notifying other editors on the talk page was the best way to go about it.  Corn.u.co.pia /  Disc.us.sion  06:05, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Argh, I LOVE IT! lol, anyways, now that you have created all the character pages, what do you think of nominating them for GA? Are there any improvements that need to be made?  Corn.u.co.pia /  Disc.us.sion  03:16, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * But just because they aren't complete or good enough for your standards doesn't make them not worthy of GA. As they are now, they are practically GA's. You could nominate them now, and add some of that info later.  Corn.u.co.pia /  Disc.us.sion  03:24, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * lol, I didn't mean to sound harsh. Anyways, I usually don't like nominating an article that someone else has improved. There may be things going on with the page that I don't know about, so I'll leave it up to you.  Corn.u.co.pia /  Disc.us.sion  03:36, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * okay, sure. I'll try to help out here and there, but I am working on a couple of projects. Speaking of projects, I recently expanded Veronica Mars. It has been nominated for GA status, and I am hoping to get it to FA. Any ideas on how it can be improved?  Corn.u.co.pia /  Disc.us.sion  04:55, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I guess there's not much you can do. I'll request a peer review after the GA review, and take it from there.  Corn.u.co.pia /  Disc.us.sion  06:27, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: IMDb
Wow, talk about a well-conditioned website... not! The fanboyism sure runs deep with this particular film, doesn't it? :) I'm glad, though, that TDK tumbled down the rankings from #1.  It's still too high, but damned if there wasn't some serious screwing around there.  I check my watchlist every once in a while, and I usually see The Dark Knight with you removing x kb of extraneous content, haha.  I wish I could get back into the editing game, but I really am busy with work, classes, team meetings, and information sessions all week long.  I do have some flexibility on weekends, but I just wind up doing other stuff, I guess.  Feel the need to get out sometimes.  You holding up, too? — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 12:36, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

IMDb
If IMDb is not a reliable source, as you claimed when removing facts attributed to it in the Boogie Nights article, why is it listed in the film infobox and always cited as an external link? 67.79.157.50 (talk) 13:51, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * (Answering here since editor may be on a different IP next time.) Reliable sources and external links are not the same thing.  Reliable sources are necessary for writing the contents of a Wikipedia article.  External links supplement the article, but since they are off-wiki, they don't undergo the same scrutiny.  IMDb has a lot of different features.  Forum pages are good for discussion, while trivia pages are, well, trivial.  We're not actively endorsing IMDb -- it's a popular website to be sure, and we're just providing access to it without actually depending on it to write article content.  We are actually having a discussion, though, about removing IMDb and AMG from the infobox and limiting them to the "External links" section; see here. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 14:41, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Back off
Bignole, you do what you do... I'll do what I do. Just back off and leave me alone...ProtoBuster (talk) 16:52, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Every time that I'm on here, I see that people who don't know what they're talking about make mistake after mistake; even if the double spacing doesn't show up on the actual page, it matters on the edit page. Same goes with how the date is written and everything else.  Most of the time, I leave it alone 'cause it's already edited properly; but when it isn't, that's when I have to step in and correct it.  And one last thing: whenever I type in "Update - etc.", that is just what it means - I like to keep it short & sweet. ProtoBuster (talk) 17:30, 30 September 2008 (UTC)