User talk:Bignole/Archive/2018/September

Harrison Wells
Thank you for removing those pieces of info from Diggle's infobox. I think there are similarly some pieces in Harrison Wells to remove from the infobox. Can you see which? -- Kailash29792 (talk)  09:37, 16 September 2018 (UTC)


 * I think there is a bigger problem with the page in that the infobox is trying to encompass several variations of Wells in one location. The result is that it comes across like the information is all for one person who just has different names on different Earths. They are all technically different people. I think that the page overall could use a bit of re-organizing. I wouldn't separate the Wells and Thawne character in the plot section, because the "real" Wells wasn't really a significant character on the show. Yet, the plot section gives him pretty significant coverage for someone that really isn't covered anywhere else. I would probably focus the page on the ones that were the main versions we saw, with the ancillary versions being put together as just that, ancillary versions.


 * The infobox itself...I'd leave Jess. She's a significant character and not originally the daughter of Harrison Wells. The fact that they made her his daughter is rather significant. The spouse stuff can go. They are neither significant characters on the show, nor do they enhance the readers' understanding of the character. I would probably get rid of the nicknames. Only applies to 2 of the characters and not really essential to understanding those characters. I would keep the occupation focused on scientist, owner of STAR labs, and writer. The rest aren't essential, as the rest are connected to ancillary characters that are not the main Wells on the show and shouldn't be given the same level of coverage.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  13:09, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Of I agree with your views; there is a reason why I haven't included information on Hells Wells, Herr Wells, Lothario, Wells 2.0, Wells the Grey etc. All the Wellses (except Thawne, Harry and HR) were one- or two-offs. In fact, Thawne and Earth-1 Wells shared the same section until someone split it. I hope there is a way to re-merge them. Additionally, it appears Sherloque will be a full-time Wells unlike the two Councils, hence I listed his occupation in the infobox. Also, should Thawne be mentioned under "First appearance" in the infobox? Should the category "Fictional characters introduced in 2014" even be here, if the first genuine Wells was introduced in 2015?-- Kailash29792  (talk)  04:17, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Was Sherloque Wells stated to be the new Wells moving forward? I didn't read the article or Flash, and I haven't noticed that news in my passing.


 * I think that first appearance should just be the Pilot. It's irrelevant that the "real" Wells didn't "appear" until later, as for all intents and purposes that was the real Wells in the pilot. The fact that he was being impersonated is inconsequential really. That requires context and the infobox cannot provide context. The infobox shouldn't leave people confused as it's merely a summary of things essential to understanding the character. The same with the "introduced in 2014". Technically, Wells was introduced in 2014. Just like say Jason Voorhees was introduced in 1980, even though it was only a dream.


 * I would generally remove the names from the occupations, as again it requires context that the infobox cannot give. That's most easily rectified in the plot section immediately to the left. I would just list them and let the plot section explain who was who.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  12:40, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Roman Spinner
Regarding names in universe mentioned in movies and out of universe as seen in closing credits that Roman Spinner and I are arguing about in the Home Alone talk page, I want you to look at 20 seconds to this video here about the name General Radek as proof it is Ivan, not Alexander as listed in closing credits of Air Force One. BattleshipMan (talk) 03:48, 29 September 2018 (UTC)


 * What does that have to do with Home Alone?    BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  04:07, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Nothing really specific on Home Alone, but Roman, in his mind, wants and I quote in that talk page, "In the same manner, Wikipedia's cast list for Air Force One should indicate "as Alexander Radek [called "Ivan" in the film]" and Wikipedia's cast list for Olympus Has Fallen should indicate "as Admiral Nathan Honig [called "Joe" in the film]". That video proves that General Radek's given name is Ivan, not Alexander as it says in closing credits and naming errors in closing credits that differs from the names mentioned in the movie itself in-universe should be counted. BattleshipMan (talk) 04:11, 29 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Maybe so, but in Home Alone it's not a different name,  it's simply a different spelling. Unless there's a reliable source somewhere that explicitly states that it was an error,  the first films page should respect the credit. The fact that Home Alone 2 says "brooke" doesn't prove that that first movie was an error,  only that an error exists somewhere.  In the grand scheme,  no reader will actually care that the goof happened.  It's up there with "Jason Goes to Hell", where the actual film shows Jason's childhood home with "Vorhees" on the mailbox instead of "Voorhees". It's a technical goof. We know it's Voorhees, because it's always been that way (and is that way in the credits). We don't know how they intended to spell Brooke, so you default to the credits.     BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  04:27, 29 September 2018 (UTC)