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Daeg Faerch in Halloween (2007 film)
Hi, you reverted my edit which added Daeg Faerch to the cast list. Both IMDb and TMDb list Faerch fourth yet, here on Wikipedia, there are seven names listed, none of whom played a young Michael Myers, the character foundational to the franchise. Given this movie's exploration of Michael's childhood, his name ought to appear somewhere on the list. OughtThoughts (talk) 00:07, 30 June 2021 (UTC)


 * - It isn't about importance to the story or what IMDB says (they aren't a reliable source). We have our own guideline, which says that the infobox list is made up of those that receive top billing, and we use the film's poster for that. If a poster does not have one, then we would use the opening titles. The reason we do that is because to base it on "importance" would be to start getting into original research territory. See WP:MOSFILM, which will point you to Template:Infobox film.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  02:54, 30 June 2021 (UTC)


 * - Re: Wikipedia guideline to use poster. Ah, okay, I'm learning, thanks. OughtThoughts (talk) 05:11, 30 June 2021 (UTC)


 * - It's because consensus a long time ago was that the film posters will typically list the top billed people and then there's no guesswork being done. We stay out of original research territory and can be as objective as possible, which is Wiki's goal when writing articles. There are certainly times when the poster doesn't include anyone (that's why we then go to the film's opening title sequence), and times when you have someone (e.g., Marlon Brando in Superman) who gets top billing in a film, yet they were only in the film for 8 minutes. That's a contract thing and another reason why we just stick to the poster as guidance. The opposite is true as well, like in the example of Kevin Spacey with Seven. No top billing, but he was a star of the film technically. That was explicit to him requesting that his name not be on any promotional material to keep his presence a secret. Side note: You don't have to ping me on my talk page, because it automatically notifies me that someone has messaged me. I ping people here because I don't know if they are watching my talk page and know that I've responded to them. :)   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  12:17, 30 June 2021 (UTC)