User talk:BillLoney

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You really got the wrong impression of what I was trying to do. Please calm down and read my explanation here. Khoikhoi 22:15, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

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Bill, I never threatened to sue you and neither did anyone else here. Please re-open your website, no one will take any legal action even if you restore the external links. This has nothing to do with any legal matter, I was talking about Wikipedia policies. On Wikipedia, if someone re-adds the links, they would typically get warned or blocked, but I will not block you because I want to discuss this with you. There is no rule on Wikipedia that says "if you violate our policy on external links, you get sued". So please restore your website. There is absolutely no possibility of a suit against you, I hope I am being absolutely clear.

Now regarding what you call the "PersonalWebLinker" and "CommercialWebContent" rules. Even though you are associated with this website (you are apparently the founder), I am sure that it's notable and very helpful. In fact, I have just received an email from several people saying that they want the website back up because they find it to be particularly useful. My sole problem was the fact that you went around adding links to your website in these external links sections, but you didn't contribute to the actual Wikipedia articles themselves. This encourages people to go to your own website and educate themselves on the subject, but it does not encourage people to read the actual Wikipedia articles.

Wikipedia is indeed a free encyclopedia, but when we only add a link to the same website on 20+ articles, regardless of how useful this website is, it may not be as helpful as you think.

Regarding your summary of these two rules are accurate, you are partially correct. I honestly wouldn't have minded if you added the links to only a couple articles, but Special:Contributions/Jgtl2 shows that the website was added to many more articles than that, which is why people would think that you were "spamming", which I know you had no intentions of doing. When you have the time, please read WP:EL and #2 of this section.

As to whether I am subject to the same rules, the answer is yes. If I had a personal website that included rare translations, I would be adding the translations to Wikisource instead of adding a bunch of links to my own website in the "External links" section of these articles.

Concerning your last question I will leave this up for someone else to answer. I believe that I acted in accordance to our policies and guidelines, and apologize if I cam across as aggressive or rude. I'd to reiterate my main point that your website has some invaluable information, and I'd love to see it in some of our project pages (such as Wikisource as I've already mentioned). Just not as an external link. Or if it is to be an external link, please limit the number of articles you add it to. Khoikhoi 23:52, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Your site
Bill, hello... please see the questions posed here regarding the Wikipedia editorial at top of your site. I'll reiterate that your site appears to have some useful information, but I have had to remove the links until you have a chance to reply to the questions. Thanks again. --Ckatz chat spy  05:15, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits
Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126; ) at the end of your comment. If you can't type the tilde character, you should click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot (talk) 15:44, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Mathematics
Hi, I've removed the section from Talk:Mathematics which contained material from your website. While your website is done is does not seem possible to have a discussion as to whether links should be included. maybe the discussion can restart when things have calmed down. --Salix alba (talk) 16:45, 22 September 2008 (UTC)