User talk:Billcica

Please stop the POV edits
Hello, welcome to Wikipedia. It appears as though you aren't yet familiar with how we do things around here, and I would advise that you find out before you edit further. The edits that you made recently have all been deleted because they showed a lack of regard for Neutral Point of View, something that Wikipedians take very seriously. Be assured that any edits you make in the future will also be subject to review by other editors, and they too will be deleted if you continue to impose your point of view onto articles you disagree with.

If you have any problems with the information already present in an article, the best thing to do would be to express yourself on that article's talk page. Adding in lines that show a strong bias is the quickest way to get yourself blocked. Just a note of advice. --Romarin 03:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Your modifications on the pages related to women's right (etc.) are simply not acceptable. If you wish to remain a member of the Wikipedia community I strongly recommend you modify your behaviour. Please remember that this is an encyclopedia and is therefore meant to be a reliable source of verifiable knowledge (see WP:V). That excludes points of view, as stressed on WP:NPOV. Wikipedia is NOT a blog nor a place to express political, social, or any other kinds of beliefs. For more info on what Wikipedia is not, see WP:NOT. I also advise you to make use of the edit summary. If your behaviour does not comply with the policies of Wikipedia, remember that you may be blocked at all times. I hope you have a good time on Wikipedia, and that you get time to read and comply with the policies mentionned above. If you need any help, feel free to ask on my talk page. --IronChris 03:35, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Please note that I put your article Weekly Musician up for speedy deletion. Wikipedia is not the place to advertise websites, or anything else for that matter. All your offensive modifications have been reverted or deleted. I hope your contributions will be a bit wiser in the future. Have a nice day. --IronChris 04:12, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Please do not vandalize my user page. If you have anything to say to me use my talk page, like everyone else. You state that I deleted your "factual" edits. I might point out that I deleted nothing of what you edited, other users did. Several other users actually, so this obviously isn't due to a personal bias of mine as you say. Myself and these other users just ensure that the policies of wikipedia are enforced. I see that I am not the only one to have deemed useful to write to you on your user page. For someone who has only been registered for 2 days that's quite something, don't you think?


 * My only modification of your contributions was the deletion of your Weekly Musician entry which was just an ad and has nothing to do in an encyclopedia, as I mentionned above.


 * It would also be good of you to sign your posts using four ~, and also make use of edit summaries to explain to others your modifications, as I stated above.


 * Indeed, I am a male supporter of feminism. That means that I support a movement that aims to promote equality between genders, though I gather that your own opinion on this question is quite different. Please note that unlike you, I do not let my personal opinions get in my way when I edit Wikipedia. I stick to the facts that you seem so dearly attached to. If in the future you do not want your edits deleted as POV make sure to cite your sources. In this manner no-one can remove your edits. However, opinions, and particular sexist, inflammatory or unjustified edits will be deleted on sight.


 * Again, a small note on blocking. I do not want to sound overly threatening, but personal attacks are a great way to be banned from Wikipedia. So please do not call me or anyone else a hypocrite, and assume good faith. Regards, --IronChris 23:12, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Hypocrite
This User is so upset about what Nicholas Turnbull did regarding userboxes yet yhis user has deleted factual modifications by user billcica based on this user's own biased oppinion. This user has a box clearly stating her possition on feminism but still removed facts from women's rights and other related topics. This is biased and hypocritical and can't be allowed. The facts removed were said to be POV, or of billcica's point of view and not of a factual basis. While the lines deleted were clearly provable, verifiable facts. If this user had taken the time to look into these facts this user would have known not to use her own bias to delete important and often over looked facts. This user said the facts were deleted because wikipedia.org doesn't include "points of view," while the facts this user chose to delete clearly show this user's point of view. Her imposing of hypocritical beliefs on all of the wikipedia members shouldn't be allowed. Ask user billcica if any of the facts this user deleted were untrue or unverifiable. Make sure you get the truth from someone who knows and not from closed minded hypocrites.

(the above was posted by User:Billcica)


 * Thank you for at least putting your complaint on the correct page, rather than insisting on vandalizing userpages. However, it is customary to add comments in chronological order, from top to down, so I have moved what you posted at the top of my page to here.


 * Secondly, I am not even going to bother answering all of your "issues" here because they are completely rediculous. If you are going to attempt to be a Wikipedian, please learn how things are done around here first. Otherwise, you will be facing an inevitable block.


 * Thirdly, if you insist on putting "facts" onto Wikipedia articles, you MUST cite your sources. Without citation, there is no way to know the factuality of a statement, and ANYTHING, no matter what it is or who says it, will be deleted if it is not properly sourced. This has nothing to do with biases.


 * Finally, to delete information from your own user talk page is certainly your perogative, but it is not standard Wikipedia policy. Besides, anyone can look at your history to see that you are deleting complaints posted against you, which looks like you have something to hide. I am copying this message onto your user talk page, as it involves you as well and should not only reside here.


 * In closing, please stop the vandalism, and please try to remain civil. We are all trying to build a great encyclopedia here, and name-calling just wastes time and energy. --Romarin 23:53, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


 * P.S. I am not the only user who deleted your vandalism from articles, and had another user seen what you did before I, they would have done the same. Personal attacks will get you nowhere but blocked. --Romarin 00:13, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Forty-eight hour block for persistent incivility and POV editing
Dear Billcica:

Firstly, I must inform you that the blanking of text on your talk page, as opposed to archiving it in a subpage, is generally considered poor Wikipedia etiquette - especially, I might add, when the messages in question are in dispute of your actions, as this gives the impression of ignoring criticism. I have thus restored the messages left by Romarin and IronChris above, due to your creation of a "collage" of Romarin's prose from a message to you through selective editing; the mischaracterisation of others' edits through modification really is not acceptable.

I have blocked you for forty-eight hours due to your persistent incivility, unwillingness to cooperate with others, and persistent penchant for ignoring Neutral point of view and Cite sources. On Wikipedia, claims are added to the article on the basis of what is referenced elsewhere as being correct versus what is correct in the opinion of the author; this is because Wikipedia is a so-called "tertiary source", in that it researches from original experiences to produce article content. Your persistent claims regarding women's rights in the United States must be referenced if a reference is available; if they can be referenced, they must also be written in an encyclopaedic and unbiased manner, as per the NPOV policy - indeed, I cannot see how the claims you are adding could be considered to fall within the purview of a neutral encyclopaedia article, although I leave that with you to make your edits conform with Wikipedia policy. I would, however, caution you against making edits for the sake of controversy. May I also point out to you a Wikipedia policy, WP:NOT, that clearly states what Wikipedia is not for; it is not a vehicle for free speech, nor is it a political soapbox.

I must also inform you of Civility, which is a policy I consider to be as non-negotiable as NPOV. There is no excuse for rudeness towards others, or mischaracterisation of their edits to you. Please do try to behave nicely towards others; be willing to listen, respond and discuss amicably and in good spirit with those whom you disagree with. There is never any harm caused by trying to make the world a little better place by some kindness and sensitivity here and there.

In summary, please do respect our NPOV editorial policy, and try to be more civil in the future. If you continue in your current line of behaviour, you will be blocked again, and indeed should you persist further after that you may well be banned indefinitely from editing Wikipedia. I would like you to please take this second chance as an opportunity to improve yourself, and to contribute to our project. If you have any questions or concerns about how we work here on Wikipedia, please do ask me; I am at your service. Best regards, --NicholasTurnbull | (talk) 01:08, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Please do not remove warnings from your talk page or replace them with offensive content. Blanking your talk page will not remove the warnings from the page history. If you continue to blank your talk page, you will lose your privilege of editing your talk page. Thanks. -- Rory 0 96 22:21, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

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