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 * look, you need to write it entirely from scratch. For good measure, you should use a more reliable source as the basis of your information.  DGG ( talk ) 23:52, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

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Articles on Lewknor and SAQ candidates
I have now created an article on Lewes Lewknor (using the DNB spelling). If you wish to get your book included on the Shakespeare authorship candidates list, then you should find a review of it in a newspaper or other source that meets the basic requirements of WP:RS. Paul B (talk) 20:14, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Poem
I have uploaded the Lewkenor poem to Wikisource and have created an author page for Lewkenor. If you want to add other works by Lewkenor you can create pages for them at wikisource and link them to the author page.

We shouldn't just be sticking whole poems in biographical articles here unless they serve a specific purpose. Anyway, as you added it, I'm afraid it was barely readable; this is what the page looked like. The name spelledcin the article has to be the same as thje title, but I've used the Lewkenor spelling in Wikisource as that's the most common spelling in literary studies. Paul B (talk) 19:57, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I will do that in future.

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 * Hi, I will amend my user page to show conflict of interests. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billdup (talk • contribs) 19:24, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Done it. Is that enough? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billdup (talk • contribs) 19:41, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Billdup. Thank's for responding. Yes, that's a very good start. In addition we will have to place the template on the talk pages for the articles Lewkenorian theory of Shakespeare authorship, Lewes Lewknor, Samuel Lewkenor, and, especially, on William 'Bill' Corbett. I can take care of that unless you prefer to do it yourself.Please note that disclosing a conflict of interest is just the minimum requirement and does not give carte blanche to edit these articles. In your edits to all articles where you have a conflict of interest you will need to be careful to adhere to the COI policy. In particular, if you wish to make an edit about yourself, or that cites your own work (your book, for instance), you should generally bring it up on the talk page and let someone else do the editing rather than doing it yourself (you can use the template  for this). Further, because you have written a book about Lewknor, your neutrality will automatically be in question on all those articles, and so you should take extra care to avoid any semblance of bias. For any even slightly controversial changes, discuss them on the talk page first.I realise that this will feel rather onerous, but please understand that Wikipedia's COI policy has come about to protect the integrity of the whole project, and based on bitter experience. Please don't hesitate to ask if you have questions or need assistance. If I can't help directly I should at least be able to direct you to the correct venue. --Xover (talk) 19:35, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

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Hi, thanks for your help, if you could place the templates that would be great. I haven't used the Talk page before but will start now. I understand the need to control conflict of interests but as I am an SME on Lewes Lewkenor it's hard not to cite my own research when others have got it wrong! comment added by Billdup (talk •
 * I've placed the templates on the articles mentioned, as well as switched your user page to the appropriate template.I know it's hard to do in practice, but you need to realise that there are actual reasons why Wikipedia has the policies that it does. For instance, we do not allow original research, because it is not verifiable. Without those two policies we'd be in a situation where anybody could make up any claim, and Wikipedia would soon be completely irrelevant (nobody would trust it for anything). Similarly, we require reliable secondary sourcing, and do not allow self-published sources. Experience has shown that we cannot trust the quality of self-published sources because they have not been wetted through a process like formal peer review, or the selection process of a major academic publisher with a reputation to maintain. Wikipedia's purpose is to summarise existing mainstream scholarship in encyclopedic form. If mainstream scholarship has gotten it wrong or ignored something, then Wikipedia is not the place to correct the issue. This is by design: Wikipedia is designed to be conservative in its coverage.I haven't checked the relevant articles in any detail, but I had a quick look at a couple of your most recent edits. These may have other issues, but most obviously they indicate that you need to support the claims in the article with secondary sources. There are extremely limited cases where citing primary sources directly is appropriate; and your book, quite apart from the COI issue, is self-published, and so mostly cannot be used as a source for these issues. You need to find sources written by mainstream scholars published somewhere with some kind of transparent editorial policy (articles in peer reviewed journals, or monographs published on a university press, are good examples). James S. Shapiro, Samuel Schoenbaum, Stanley Wells, and Irvin Matus have all published in this area, so you might start with checking them. --Xover (talk) 06:58, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi, I have added a number of secondary sources to my article and removed some of the more offending stuff, I hope this helps and any changes you can help me with will be much appreciated. I assumed that as this is an article and not an encyclopaedic entry that arguing the case with easily checkable references would have been permitted. It is, after all, an extraordinary case. Thanks for your assistance. comment added by Billdup (talk •


 * Expert editors may contain something helpful. Happy editing! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:13, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

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 * Some assistance, huh? :/
 * I've been looking for sources to justify putting Lewes Lewkenor on List of Shakespeare authorship candidates, but by googling "Lewes Lewkenor" + Corbett I found nothing useful. Per WP:SELFPUBLISH your book is not useful for this. Neither is Amazon. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:55, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi, I listed all the sources in the article who have suggested Lewkenor as an influence on Othello, all of whom are highly regarded Shakespearean scholars. When I wrote the bio for Lewes Lewkenor I didn't link to my book as per the rules on self-publishing, I did add it to the Lewkenorian article because that is based on my research and therefore can't be written without reference to that work. I understand that self-publishing and citing one's own work is not allowed and would be happy to remove any offending links. As Shakespeare authorship is a fringe area I would have thought any additional information is better than deleting alternative candidates, I'm surprised that anyone could read my article and pronounce that there was nothing of value in it: I balance your opinion against Cwmhiraeth who thought it was an impressive new article.

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Nomination of William 'Bill' Corbett for deletion
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The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/William 'Bill' Corbett (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. jps (talk) 16:15, 12 February 2018 (UTC)