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Citing the DNB
Do you think it would be good to have a template similar to 1911EB or Wikisource1911Enc Citation for the DNB? Things like Jakob Abbadie look rather ugly, and like 1911, DNB doesn't have the look of a typical citation. —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 22:03, 17 February 2010 (UTC)


 * There are three kinds of templates (attribution, poster, citation). I think you're looking for the citation template for the DNB, which is DNB Cite. Just pipe to the article name, no suffix. Charles Matthews (talk) 10:41, 18 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Hmm, didn't show up in a search of template namespace for "DNB". This seems better for attribution, it would be similar to Johannes Wisclenius and suchlike, citing the EB. —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 14:54, 18 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Fixed the categories. billinghurst  sDrewth  02:48, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Google Books.au
As part of the bigger picture, I'd like to try to track down citations here of the DNB that run to books.google.com.au. So far I haven't found any - but they may exist and be findable via the external link Special page. Do you use this (I mean the DNB on Australian Google Books)? Is it visible in Australia (the geographic coverage of Google's DNB scans is somewhat mysterious)? Searching on book.google.[suffix]?id=[initial four characters in string] is fine to dig up the correct hits, but right now I'm unclear about whether that string is localised geographically or is global. It's big area to research because there are well over 100 DNB volumes up on Google Books in various editions, but before I give up on collation I'd like to try to fathom how it all works. (One instance of .je, i.e. Jersey, was discouraging, but the 80-for-20 is to do .com and .co.uk suffices first.). Charles Matthews (talk) 12:32, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Local Google Books isn't the specific default in Oz, though it does flow through as the link after you localise a search from the other Googles. This search finds some. With regard to how google shows books, I have never quite worked it out fully, just know that if a book is even half potentially copyright, then it will be blocked by reference to one's IP. billinghurst  sDrewth  06:55, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

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