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Auxiliary referencing
Hi there. It has bothered me for quite some time that we don't have protocols for how to handle "importation of references with text", i.e. what to do with, for example, DNB text references, both inline and end references, when adapting text to WP. Obviously putting in any such "auxiliary references" is entirely optional and should be because they help in some way; also quite evidently, they really come with a caveat that the references may not have been checked. The precedent for including them, however, is strong, going back to EB1911 adaptations. I'm after format that makes sense, going forward.

So, there are two issues here. I think inline refs that should be retained ought to be handled as under WP:REFGROUP, via reflist, which can mark them off from ordinary references. For the end references, the best option to me seems to be exemplified by the "quote=" field in cite DNB: this allows text containing such references to be placed wherever the main reference is, and readers don't really have to bother with reading the sources of the DNB article unless they are interested. (One can imagine in the longer term that the reader could be saved clicks in going back to basic sources, by having them linked direct from WP. I won't insist on that point, though.)

Anyway, we could agree to do this, via WP:WP DNB, for the DNB alone. There is really more of an issue, right now, with end references for the Catholic Encyclopedia adaptations (and there it is pretty useful to understand the sources of the text you're drawing on, or at least so I find). It looks to me as if adding the "quote=" field to CathEncy would not be a big deal; but I'm not an expert on these things. I wondered therefore what you thought about the whole business. Charles Matthews (talk) 12:26, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I have slapped together a mod into Template:CathEncy/sandbox. If you  build the variations that you want into Template:CathEncy/testcases you will see how well we have done, and I can then go and further fix.  Within the body of testcases I will build a couple of starting examples, and I encourage the creation of the gamut of live and proposed. 1) so you can see what is broken and 2) examples of what they will be like (or comment). — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:36, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

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Hello, Billinghurst. Thanks for your message at JamesBWatson (talk) 10:08, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

File:Offspring Blackall arms.gif needs authorship information
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