User talk:Biosthmors/Archive 3

Valid Reference?
Hi Biosthmors, I hope you're doing well and I have a quick question for you. I was working on one of the poorly referenced portions of Bronchitis and came across this reference which I can see the original editor used this content but did not add it as a reference. However, my question is whether or not this is a valid reference/reliable source. I'm inclined to think it is but I would appreciate a second opinion before putting it into the article and potentially having it removed, etc. Thanks and here is the link: http://oac.med.jhmi.edu/res_phys/Encyclopedia/Bronchitis/Bronchitis.HTML TylerDurden8823 (talk) 08:10, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't want to use it myself if I were writing that page. For one thing, it says "Copyright © 1995 Johns Hopkins University". 1995 is not in line with WP:MEDDATE. Biosthmors (talk) 21:40, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, glad I checked in the first place then. I'll have to delete a little bit of what's there because an earlier editor copied straight off of that reference. Anyway, thanks for the second opinion and for letting me know about the Meddate thing which I was unaware of until now. By the way, let me know how you think the article is progressing when you have a chance. I added more secondary sources so it should be better now. TylerDurden8823 (talk) 01:40, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I asked a few people if they would peer review but I haven't heard back yet. I'm giving it a little while so we'll see if they respond.TylerDurden8823 (talk) 23:00, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah give it some time if not then ask more folks there (after ~3 days). That would be my advice! Check back with me if that doesn't get you any help in ~week's time. =) Biosthmors (talk) 23:14, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the introduction on my talk page
The Wikipedia Education Project is an adventure for me. I filled out the WEP form and hope to get an online ambassador to help this semester. I am not sure that I'll be able to get an on-campus Ambassador, but with a class of only 6 students and all the available resources, I think we'll be okay. I plan to incorporate WP editing into a much larger class next year (Sensory Neuroscience) and am hoping to develop a good framework this semester. I very much liked your suggestions on WP:ENB for Basic Requirements, but some of the following discussion talked about taking away support from classes that don't meet expectations. As we professors try to muddle our way through the ways of the Wikipedia world, we need more support, not less, if we are not fully meeting expectations. When making substantial curriculum changes, it always takes more than one or two semesters to get it right. I really appreciate your offer of support.Biolprof (talk) 16:06, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I just received an email officially including me in WEP Spring 2013 from Jami Mathewson with Richard Jenson as my regional ambassador. Since his interest is history, I think it would extremely helpful to have your biomedical expertise in addition to your experience as an ambassador for the neuroscience course and I mentioned this in my response to them. I have spent quite a bit of time the last day or so lurking around the WP education pages and resources and have started to cobble together a course page in my sandbox, by cutting and pasting from the 12 week generic syllabus combining with elements from Joan Strassmann's Behavior Ecology course and another Molecular Biology course that I found through the WikiProject:MCB page. It's obviously got a ways to go still. I'd love to talk with you about it. I don't have Skype on my computer, but my husband might on his. I've got Facetime on my new iPad mini (Happy Holidays to me :-) ) and chat. And of course there are always cell phones. Tomorrow morning might work well for me. Or over the weekend. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Biolprof (talk • contribs) 05:35, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * My email should be available now.Biolprof (talk) 03:53, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

ghana
sorry, i'm a bit confused. You have provided a correct quote and then changed it to have a difference appearance. So in fact you have added original research into the quote. Medrs says 'nationally recognized expert body'. Certainly ghana's fda is their nationally recognized expert body. Please correct me if i'm wrong. I suggest you to remove your comment from the talk page as not constructive if you agree with me, but by all means keep it if you disagree.Ryanspir (talk) 17:59, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

failing to understand
To what idea are you refering to? Could please refrain from posting not constructive messages on the article talk page? The editors who will read it won't understand what you are talking about, because you have replied on the article talk page to my message on your talk page without including my message. May i kindly suggest you to assume good faith and be neutral? Ryanspir (talk) 04:25, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

fMRS feedback
Thanks for your feedback on fMRS article. I have replayed to your comments at WT:MED page. Dcdace (talk) 12:51, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

The History of Bronchitis
Hey Biosthmors, I've never written/researched the history of a disease before really and I've never put such a section on to wikipedia. Looking up the history of bronchitis I found an article on the person who distinguished it from pleurisy or pneumonia named Charles Badham (physician) and this reference was there: Robinson, Victor, Ph.C., M.D. (editor) (1939). "Charles Badham". The Modern Home Physician, A New Encyclopedia of Medical Knowledge. WM. H. Wise & Company (New York)., page 72. Sounds like a book to me, would that be acceptable to use? I don't even know if I can get my hands on text from that book either to actually write some text about his discovery. That being said, I also found an article from 2009 (I am not certain if it is a review article though I believe it is) and I think if OhanaUnited can get me a copy, that it would go nicely in the article. What do you think of this source? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19343614 Thanks!TylerDurden8823 (talk) 00:45, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * P.S.-Would this work as a reputable book link from GoogleBooks? http://books.google.com/books?id=1_XIbBRvD0gC&pg=PA408&lpg=PA408&dq=Charles+Badham+bronchitis&source=bl&ots=5NDvwhfbln&sig=43jgFeeO-HmgsBQ19EH1hofsFxQ&hl=en&sa=X&ei=DRvqUNUGhY7aBZeUgegB&ved=0CGUQ6AEwBzge#v=onepage&q=Charles%20Badham%20bronchitis&f=false Let me know if the link gives you any trouble.TylerDurden8823 (talk) 00:48, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * would be a great addition to the article. The history section doesn't need to rely on review articles like the sections that are based off of biomedical research. History sections, society and culture sections, and economics sections don't need MEDRS as a guideline. The book doesn't seem to contain lots of info. While it should be reliable, in an ideal world we'd have access to better sources and we wouldn't need to use it, methinks. I'm glad you've been getting some feedback at Peer review/Bronchitis/archive1. That's great. Biosthmors (talk) 02:42, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Can you give me a for instance for a better source? I'm trying to secure access to that paper in the meanwhile and continuing to look for other sources. And yes, I had no idea about some of the wikipedia policies and the way articles are supposed to be sectioned (I didn't realize guidelines existed for those though it makes sense that they exist) so the article is coming along. It needs more pathophys, history, epidemiology, and some other touches but it's getting there. Is it okay to use textbook sources for the more technical aspects of the pathophys? How much detail should I be going into for that section? Some of the cited papers discuss the pathophys but I'm not sure how much is really appropriate and I didn't want to risk it being overly technical. TylerDurden8823 (talk) 02:44, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * (ec)Well, whatever you did to find the other article worked! I don't have access to research databases at the moment. Try searching the database of a local university library. I found a book that I used in the history section of DVT that way. Sometimes review articles will have little bits of history too. Biosthmors (talk) 02:49, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Try to write at least a good paragraph (or at most maybe three) for the pathophysiology section. Try to keep it as approachable as you can for the lay-reader, but it's going to usually be heavy with molecular and cellular biology content. It's just the nature of the beast. Biosthmors (talk) 02:51, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay. And textbook references for the pathophys section along with what can be obtained from papers is good for that section, right?TylerDurden8823 (talk) 04:11, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It's an OK source yes. I try to just use review articles but yes. Definitely acceptable. Biosthmors (talk) 04:21, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll try to use review papers along with textbook references the best that I can.TylerDurden8823 (talk) 06:57, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Quick update, so, it turns out that the nice paper we wanted to include is English-abstract only and the entire paper is in German and it doesn't seem like I can get my hands on a copy anyway. Phoebe said that she could get access to the one I'm going to link in a moment. Is a 1991 paper okay if it's about the history and not about current medical information about diagnosis/treatment, etc. about the disease? That won't violate any of wikipedia's protocols I imagine, right? Or am I mistaken in my assumptions? It seems to be exactly what we're looking for: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1925077 Let me know when you get a chance. TylerDurden8823 (talk) 04:27, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Great. It should be good for a history section. Biosthmors (talk) 05:26, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Still confused
i still don't understand you. I'm refering to medrs the way its written. So why should i discuss anything? I didn't add any interpretations, like you did. Its obvious that there are experts who are working at ghana fda, same as in usa fda. Anyway, lets stop this discussion meanwhile, because every your message confuses me. Thanks for letting me know your position.Ryanspir (talk) 17:04, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Project with residents
Perhaps you could have a look at WP:WikiProject Medicine/GF-FMR at your convenience and give me your feedback. It is drawn from Doc James's work, whom I contacted at your suggestion. Regards. Bill Mann --Mdscottis (talk) 15:52, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * That's fantastic. I'll take a look now. Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 00:48, 10 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I knew you didn't sleep. Thanks for the involvement. It looks better, and the way forward  also feels clearer already. --Mdscottis (talk) 16:13, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Vertigo reassessment
Hi Biosthmors, when you get a chance, can you give Vertigo another look? I think it's above C class now. Perhaps at B class on the way to GA? TylerDurden8823 (talk) 20:39, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Making the call between B and C takes time that I don't have for this purpose at the moment. =) Let's just say it's on it's way to GA. Keep up the good work! Biosthmors (talk) 20:46, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I have Officially re-assessed the article to be B-class.   Generally, though, it's FA, GA, or whatever!  I'm outta here, have a nice weekend...   20:57, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks that was fast!TylerDurden8823 (talk) 21:12, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks Zad. =) Biosthmors (talk) 23:44, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Reviewer rights
I have assigned reviewer rights per your request. Kind regards, James086 Talk  19:47, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

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Re: Thanks
Hi. In regards to diabetes mellitus on WikiProject Medicine/Good article goals for 2013: I think, I misunderstod the concept a bit: I do not think I will have the time to work on this article since I am doing a lot of work with the Anatomy project (also I do not feel that I am quite qualified since I am an undergradute). I thought you could just nominate (and let others do the hard work) if you did not say "Yes" at the end of your post. --JakobSteenberg (talk) 00:12, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I been planing on working on femur starting from next week. But it would take some time before getting it up to GA, but it could be done before 2014. Please try to push diabetes mellitus on to someone else :D --JakobSteenberg (talk) 00:30, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I could give it a try starting next week. I just glanced trough it, but I might have some ideas. If you was looking at it and thinking of particular sections you think should be improved or added please let me know. My first thought is adding some history, more on dissection, make a small section of the most needed terms from anatomical terms of location and a cleanup. --JakobSteenberg (talk) 00:48, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank You for your attention to my feedback
I have been receiving very patient and kind instruction from John. He has helped me so much! Thanks for asking. Thewritewoman (talk) 20:54, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Alzheimer's Article
I'm sorry, is the problem with including additional information about possible cholinestrase inhibitors the articles themselves, or how I have cited them? Englishcoug (talk) 22:03, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your advice!

HeatherLogghe (talk) 15:11, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Well thank you very much. Thanks for also giving one to Tryptofish. I hope to improve upon it further! Best. Biosthmors (talk) 21:12, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: archiving of Talk:Medical uses of silver
&mdash;Ahnoneemoos (talk) 03:54, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks
As you say we did not meet, but you seem to have become a great editor in this time. Nevertheless at this moment I want to re-start here little by little and see what happens. My idea is to improve those articles I was most familiar when I left, mainly the multiple sclerosis and also maybe the parkinson's disease. The two are FA but some sections are a bit out-dated. I'll contact the med project if I need extra work :-)

--Garrondo (talk) 08:10, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Lesson of the events at BCA
What has been the lesson we've learned at the breast cancer awareness talk page? When Charles came along to fix the article, he was not very well versed in wikipedia rhetoric and recitation of policies. A group of 3-4 other editors used the policies to almost make it seem like Charles' arguments were completely bogus and wrong. However, once other people came along, one by one each new editor agreed with Charles' views on the article (although they may not have agreed with his methods and may have found his manners off putting). As illustrated by the past few months, they all made the exact same arguments that Charles was making all along, but they were citing policies to supplement them (3 examples - opinion should not be presented as fact, too much negative criticism in the article, we should use footnotes).

Lesson learned: just because somebody isn't that great at proving their point on wikipedia does not mean that they are wrong.

Thus, can you help preserve my good faith edit to the article? You seem to have no problem finding sources. Given the pattern of recent events, Charles' edits probably have some merit to them. Instead of citing policies (ie WP:MEDRS) for deconstructing Charles' edits, can you please try to WP:PRESERVE them instead? Thanks, Charles35 (talk) 23:34, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

The cancer talk page
I would have a very low threshold for removing posts on the Talk:Cancer page that seem to be basic rants about non-traditional cancer treatment being underrepresented. WP:TALK sets clear parameters for using talk pages as discussion forums. The current IP poster has tried to start three different threads! JFW &#124; T@lk  20:36, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree that it is overkill! But they mentioned one good point too. Plus I think we represent mainstream medicine and if we can meet the alt types in the middle sometimes maybe they'll be more likely to go to the doctor when they are sick and really need to. That's my hope anyways! Biosthmors (talk) 22:26, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Notification of Dispute Resolution regarding colloidal silver
Hi Bios, Ryan started a Dispute Resolution case regarding the use of Quackwatch at Medical uses of silver. Doc James and I were named but because you also have been involved in these discussions, I thought you might like to be notified about it. Here's the link: Dispute_resolution_noticeboard. Cheers.... 00:47, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Revising the nominations process at Today's article for improvement
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WMF noticeboard
Would something like what I proposed at User talk:Okeyes (WMF)/Archive 5. Unless the WMF would like to say it won't be done ever, even if they had the capability, I'd like it to be somewhere where it isn't forgotten. Ryan Vesey 04:56, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

MfD nomination of WMF noticeboard
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mass message to staff

 * I'd suggest waiting until the MfD concludes before trying to point WMF staffers there. I'd rather not send a message like that myself, in any case, though, because it'd feel like an awkward mix of my WMF and volunteer roles.--ragesoss (talk) 19:38, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

First effort
This is my first effort... I can add the pages numbers as you suggest, and will do so within the hour. Now that I know I can at least edit this article, I will be making another edit soon (same article). It will take me significantly more time and experience to get up to speed on more advanced techniques.

Thanks for the encouragement. Ibn Ridwan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ibn Ridwan (talk • contribs) 05:22, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback and advice. I checked the item you referred to, and understand the issue. Will correct it now. Ibn Ridwan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ibn Ridwan (talk • contribs) 05:56, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

fMRS peer review
Hi Biosthmors, I have opened a WP:PR for fMRS article as you suggested. However, I didn't ask any WP:PRV to review it as there don't seem to be anybody who could be interested in the subject. --Dcdace (talk) 21:27, 18 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Biosthmors, one of the reviewers whom I contacted (Materialscientist) did some small changes in the article, but nothing from the others. I am still interested in peer review comments. Thanks. --Dcdace (talk) 09:06, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments on the fMRS peer review page. I made some changes to the article and will consider to do some more based on your comments.

I have a general question about rather technical articles like this. Should I write it for a reader who doesn't have any background knowledge - to a completely naive reader? I thought, I don't need to explain theory behind my article as then I would veer off the main topic. That's why I put hyperlinks to other articles.

Another question about the quality of the article. According to the quality scale, isn't the article rather a B class? Thanks. --Dcdace (talk) 13:19, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Ha!
Sadly, I think you and I both know the answer to your question. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 14:23, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the great advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darkspace08 (talk • contribs) 17:04, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

OHSU Project
I will let you know if we need any help, absolutely. My talk today was apparently very useful for them, the next step is for them to both identify trouble spots and sign up for accounts. Once they've done that i'll point them in your direction. Thanks for the offer. -- UseTheCommandLine (talk) 01:09, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Kevin Gates


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 * This article was created because it was 4999 on WP:5000. Lot of hits on google news. This is kind of absurd to say "unabiguous advertising". I strongly disagree. Biosthmors (talk) 01:50, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Efn
Sorry about that - I read your question too quickly and misunderstood the problem. I've posted the (hopefully correct this time) solution at WP:VPT now. – Philosopher Let us reason together. 19:42, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem. I do that too sometimes (read too quickly then it compromises my response). Biosthmors (talk) 01:53, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Assessment
Hey Biosthmors, if you get a chance, can you assess gynecomastia and let me know what you think? I'd like a second opinion on how it is progressing. Thank you! TylerDurden8823 (talk) 02:10, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Did you get my message?TylerDurden8823 (talk) 23:57, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry yes, I'll take a look! Biosthmors (talk) 00:25, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks =) TylerDurden8823 (talk) 00:29, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I resolved the few issues you brought up. If possible, I'd like to know what class it's at now. TylerDurden8823 (talk) 02:10, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Start or C? It could use a society and culture section probably, because it has an appearance characteristic and there's Bob. ;-) Maybe that could be mentioned. Biosthmors (talk) 02:20, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Bitch tits is a redirect, after all. See what you can dig up? =) Biosthmors (talk) 02:21, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Biosthmors (talk) 02:24, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * You don't think that's a little inappropriate for this page? This is a real medical condition. Seems a bit insensitive to gynecomastia suffers IMO. Still start class? That's the class it was at before I got to it and it was nowhere near this developed. C maybe...TylerDurden8823 (talk) 02:32, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * That's so out of character for you. I'll put it to C class! Biosthmors (talk) 02:33, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * What's out of character? My opinion that the society/culture section might be inappropriate? I imagine such cultural references are already covered on the male bra page, which is in the see also section. We can open the topic up to a larger wikipedia population if you wish but I still believe that the whole bitch tit thing is not really appropriate for an encyclopedia. Or are you referring to my push for C class? Do you think it wasn't justified? I'm not trying to pressure you to rate it what I want, I would want to know why it is remaining start class unless the original rating of start class was grossly off and it should have been a stub. The article has changed significantly from when I started, so it seems odd that it would still be at the same class. Also, what is EFN? Is that a template for foot notes? If so, how do I use it? TylerDurden8823 (talk) 03:23, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * You're really out of character! Lol. It's easy. All efn requires is this: ==Notes== , and you can see an example at prothrombin G20210A. Best. Biosthmors (talk) 03:56, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Haha, I didn't even think about that. Guess that's what happens when it's your username, you don't notice references like that.TylerDurden8823 (talk) 05:54, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

The Barnstar of Recovery

 * You are most welcome! Thanks! That's wonderful thing to know that I helped with that. =) Biosthmors (talk) 19:03, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Regional standards of care ping back
Good question regarding unwarranted variation @WT:MED. I replied back to your message. Thanks. GT67 (talk) 18:57, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Biosthmors. After reading the WP:SS it makes more sense to me how a summary style is more preferred versus the mock-up version I created; the mock-up is too detailed and you present a good case that not all countries may present with variations within the specific facets. Additionally, Doc James prefers having articles broken up into subtopics by country rather than disease state by country, since this allows countries to be compared on one page versus being spread out. In addition to my fellowship project, I am very interested in helping bring article to GA status, specifically within infectious disease. As soon as I decide which articles, I will update the potential GA for 2013 that is a top 500 medical article list. BTW, do you happen to know of reference management software that is being used within the Wikipedia community to supply secondary resources to the community? Thanks. GT67 (talk) 22:28, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. GT67 (talk) 16:01, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

How do I see others' user rights?
How do I see others' user rights? Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 05:58, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The easiest way is probably Special:ListUsers. For example, [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AListUsers&username=Legoktm&group=&limit=1] shows all of mine. Legoktm (talk) 06:07, 13 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Bios, you might really enjoy enabling the Navigation Popups gadget, which does this and a lot more! Preferences -> Gadgets -> Navigation Popups.    17:28, 14 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Biosthmors (talk) 20:22, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

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Hey Biosthmors, I was wondering, when is the 500 top medical articles page going to turn over and show it for January? We're in the middle of February...TylerDurden8823 (talk) 01:29, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Well the last edit was made to the page on 18 Jan, so I don't think anything's late yet. =) Biosthmors (talk) 20:21, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Kevin Gates


A tag has been placed on Kevin Gates requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that your page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the page be "userfied" or emailed to you.  STATic  message me!  23:41, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikiproject Medicine Goals
Hey Biosthmors, I noticed that on those 10 articles of top importance that we want to get up to B class or higher, that at least one of them is B class and is also ranked as mid importance. The artile is candidiasis so maybe it should be taken off of that list. I haven't looked at the others yet.TylerDurden8823 (talk) 01:02, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
 * By "that" list I guess you mean the toolserver list but I wouldn't know how to change that one! Toolserver seems to be a whole 'nother beast. I'd rely off of the talk page in this case. =) Biosthmors (talk) 01:30, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, I thought you made that list. Didn't know it was the toolserver.TylerDurden8823 (talk) 02:05, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks from Signal Trans Sp2013
I wanted to say thanks for the help last Wednesday with questions and going over some of your wikipedia experiences.

I am sure we all will have more Qs to ask and really appreciate your help. Hakkinen2013 (talk) 22:59, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem! Thanks for the note. I look forward to being able to help out again! Biosthmors (talk) 20:24, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikidragon
Hey Bios, it's a bummer that the noticeboard was slain. I thought it was a good idea and was pleased when it was rescued from the jaws of certain death, but then everyone circled back around for another hack at it. But for your efforts and generally bold attitude of "That's a good idea, I'm just going to go ahead and do it!" I award you the WikiDragon userbox, please wear it with pride! 14:21, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you appreciated the boldness! I saw some silliness at that circling, but that's OK because I knew my time would be better spent elsewhere. Thank you much for the userbox and note, but I'd rather not display the userbox — to retain a bit of the element of surprise! Biosthmors (talk) 14:47, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

How links work between the different wikis?
WP:CHEAT shows how to link on Wikipedia. But is there a cheatsheet that shows how to link from Wikipedia to meta, wiktionary, etc. and vice versa? Biosthmors (talk) 15:11, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Help:Interwikimedia links--Sage Ross (WMF) (talk) 15:13, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Biosthmors (talk) 15:38, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Online ambassador for Neurobiology course
Biosthmors, it would be great to have a second online ambassador for my undergraduate neurobiology course. This is my first time doing this so I am learning a lot along side my students. Yunshui has been wonderfully helpful but of course your scientific background would be a bonus. Let me know if there is any other information you need for the course. For example, I did write a detailed rubric on how I would grade the students that is not posted on the Wikipedia course site. It is on my D2L site for the course. MMBiology (talk) 20:36, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Medicine
Hi! I read your user page and I think it's great for you to try and keep this page the most professional it can be. Do you have any interests in particular? I'm learning how to use wikipedia in med school. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danieladelrio (talk • contribs) 18:03, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

 * You might have confused me with someone else, but thanks anyways! I am a bit hungry. =) Biosthmors (talk) 20:29, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Medical English
Hi!

Thanks for contacting me. I gave a short talk about Wikipedia in foreign language classes at my school in Mexico back in July. This semester Im teaching a class in Medical English and I have been introducing the idea of working with Wikipedia as a way to improve language skills. The last class sessions (I have two groups) were about exploring the community and getting a sense of who edits Wikipedia. Many of the students found your userpage along with that of Doc James and others, but Ive been holding off on having them contact anybody principally because I dont want any one Wikipedian to get 60 messages all of a sudden! :D

Our next two projects are to upload photos related to the field in Commons (we do that on Wed) and then work on translating a good article from English Wikipedia to Spanish Wikipedia. We will be discussing what makes a good article, using analytical skills we learned earlier in the semester reading some journal articles. After that, I will get a feel for their level and interest to see if we continue with writing articles from scratch. This is something of an experiment as although I have taught using Wikipedia before, I am trying new tactics based on what went well and not so well before. Also Medical English is a bit different than teaching a regular advanced English class.Thelmadatter (talk) 14:09, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Peer review Feedback of Lyme Disease article
Hi Biosthmors. I recently opened up a peer review for the article on  Lyme Disease and was wondering if you could help me understand why the article is B grade rather than GA grade. What needs to be done to the article for it to receive a higher grade? Thanks. GT67 (talk) 20:24, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Comments left at Peer review/Lyme disease/archive2. Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 22:41, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your analysis. I appreciate your feedback. Thanks. GT67 (talk) 16:15, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks so much! You might like reading this article, by the way. I read it yesterday and found bits of inspiration. Biosthmors (talk) 18:45, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

re WikiProject Medicine/Missing Article Trophy
I agree that page could probably be considered inactive. I am the only one to post there in a year or two. Please tag it as you wish and ignore my last entry. Lesion ( talk ) 17:19, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Are you kidding me?! You just got the crown trophy! ;-) Biosthmors (talk) 17:21, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, ok, Thanks. (But honestly if you wanted to mark the page inactive please do not let my recent contribution dissuade you). Lesion  ( talk ) 17:26, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I think it could inspire some friendly competition so I think it should be used. =) There are other places that definitely deserve to be marked as historical though! Biosthmors (talk) 17:28, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Gynecomastia
Hey Biosthmors, I see you made a few changes on the gynecomastia article, it looks great, but I do have a question. Should we really be using that 1997 Lancet reference? Seems too old to me to use given what I've heard on wikipedia before. I'm not even sure if we should be using that given that it's making a claim that is medically related but not from a peer-reviewed medical journal review article. Anyway, let me know what you think. TylerDurden8823 (talk) 23:52, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. It seemed like a relatively weak statement that probably doesn't have to have an updated reference. But I could be wrong. An updated source would be nice. I noted my concern on the talk page. Biosthmors (talk) 00:01, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * If it's a weak statement, I don't even know if it's worth including in the article, but I don't really have strong feelings about the matter one way or the other. Also, do you know what happened to the rating system? Did they completely discontinue the rating system for Wikipedia articles? TylerDurden8823 (talk) 04:54, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I just thought it was interesting, to be honest! Could you link me to whereever you got that impression? I'm unaware of anything. Biosthmors (talk) 13:59, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not clear, can I link you to where I got what impression? TylerDurden8823 (talk) 15:25, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd like to know why were you wondering this: "Did they completely discontinue the rating system for Wikipedia articles?" Maybe you could link me to a relevant discussion? I very seriously doubt consensus would have developed somewhere to scrap this. Biosthmors (talk) 15:34, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't see the star rating system at the bottom of articles anymore. That's why I'm saying that. I thought I saw a discussion about something like that before but I don't know. TylerDurden8823 (talk) 15:35, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah! Those ratings. See Requests for comment/Article feedback. I found it by looking at a historical revision of Template:Centralized discussion. Biosthmors (talk) 15:39, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

The hatters
That's very kind of you, Biosthmors - much appreciated. Could I perhaps trouble you to set up two more redirects for hatter's shakes and Danbury shakes? (I feel happier at the moment editing as an ip.) Actually, Hatter's shakes also has an alternative spelling, hatters' shakes. Best wishes, —86.130.63.128 (talk) 18:44, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, no problem! Feel free to ask anytime. Biosthmors (talk) 18:46, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Cheers! 86.130.63.128 (talk) 18:49, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Milan
Hey. Jake (Ocaasi), can't make it to the Milan chapters conference 18-21April. Is there any chance you can? I've volunteered at m:Talk:Wiki_Project_Med but will defer to you if you can attend. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 06:34, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Article Feedback deployment
Hey Biosthmors; I'm dropping you this note because you've used the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:09, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Drug warnings (black boxes and contraindications)
Thanks for your welcome note. Per your suggestion, I made a few edits to the page. While I perused the WikiProject Medicine, there were so many topics I got overwhelmed, so I wondered if you could once again offer advice. One area where I find wikipedia information lacking is in the warning information for older drugs. Even though a drug may contain a black box warning, that warning may not be included on the wikipedia page - even though it is the first google "hit." If I wanted to add such warnings (straight from the label), is there a section of WikiProject Medicine where I could read about the proper method to add this information? Bluemile (talk) 01:01, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 * That's a fantastic question. For discussion's sake, what example were you thinking of? Sorry it's taken a few days for me to reply, I've been elsewhere! =) Biosthmors (talk) 05:22, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Seeking advice about merging content into my main article
Hi, Biosthmors, I noticed that my main project article for Signal Transduction class has a couple offshoot articles that look like they could be merged into the main page, and I was looking for some advice. Do you think I should bother undertaking such a task, or is it exceedingly difficult? For reference, my main project article is Glutathione_S-transferase, and the offshoots are Glutathione_S-transferase,_C-terminal_domain and Bacterial_glutathione_transferase. I'd of course like to be thorough, but I'm no expert in Wikipedia policy and politics, so if you think it's best to leave such a task to a more dedicated and experienced Wikipedian, I would be happy to focus on adding content to my own article. (Just looking at the Merging page is making me a little panicky, for what it's worth.) Thanks so much for your help! Jnims (talk) 22:00, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry not to reply sooner. I've been on a bit of a "wiki-break"! From taking a glance, it seems like merging would be a fine option. I don't think merging is difficult. It is intimating when you first see all the instructions though, I agree. I'll ask for you at WT:MCB to see if any wisdom can be found there. Biosthmors (talk) 05:18, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

thanks
PS: If you'd like help with that manually-coded edit links in course pages thing, just gimme a ping.--Sage Ross (WMF) (talk) 18:53, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Question
Hey Biosthmors, I am experiencing some difficulties while editing the Reef Karim article. There is an IP address making some odd and unexplained changes including some large unexplained removals of information (such as the entire lead section). Is there any route for getting them blocked or taking some form of punitive action to get them to stop? Thanks. TylerDurden8823 (talk) 22:56, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, looks like they should be brought up for discussion at WP:COIN. That might relieve some stress. I'll see what's going on in the article too. Biosthmors (talk) 23:27, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for all the help, if MedMediaPr continues, I will report them to COIN. I appreciate all of the help on the article. I was not entirely sure where to cut detail and what should remain (i.e., if references could be provided for some of it) as I usually don't work on biographical articles. That being said, much of what the IP user and Medmedia were adding seemed POV and unnecessary (or unverifiable), or they removed important parts that did belong there. Anyway, thanks again! TylerDurden8823 (talk) 23:47, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! I wouldn't use the word "reporting" because it's not like you're "telling" on them. It's just a way to say "hey, I think there's something funny going on here, would others take a look?" =) Best. Biosthmors (talk) 23:50, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll rephrase, I'll give COIN a heads up about what's happening if the behavior continues. Jmh649 is also watching the page, I notified the both of you about the problem since you're both more experienced editors than I am and I had a feeling one or both of you would know how to properly handle the situation and the proper channels to go through. TylerDurden8823 (talk) 23:54, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * =) Sounds good. Biosthmors (talk) 23:56, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Deep vein thrombosis
Hi Bios I was reading a little the super article about DVT and I'v noted something a little strange and illogic. In Pathophysiology section reference N. 10 says exactly the inverse: platelets are very important in clot formation "by activating                       blood platelets, or by increasing the number of platelets...". Another thing is the inflammatory reaction as primum movens... I know there are some papers about that but how to explain the traveler's DVT? I think that we need to talk about these papers but without much relevance. Lets time give some light over the subject... inflammatory reaction with so many macrophages exist in an attempt to re-absorb clots not to form them the problem is: they are there and we can't see the clot formation and macrophages coming to fix the issue. Obviously we can't write what I think :) but I'll search good references for it Best regards Doc Elisa ✉ 18:52, 17 March 2013 (UTC)


 * No problem. May be you can find another reference about Cockett syndrome also called May-Thurner syndrome (the English name)... never mind Doc Elisa  ✉ 18:33, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the link. I had read it. Is true that vascular endotelial cells release coagulation factors when under traumatic situations (mainly vein EC): is a normal protection of life and the reason we can't repair vein valves. The article is a little confusing (I don't have enough knowledge about immunology) but they think to have found a possible molecular mechanism for clinical linkage between different types of thrombotic and complement-mediated disorders. They talk about severe immunologic situations where we can find thrombosis and hemorrhage concomitantly. Nothing is uncovered... yet unfortunately. In auto-immune situations we can find everything... our knowledge about our immune system is yet really poor. But this work can open a new research pat for hypercoagulability syndromes. By the way: why hypercoagulability is redirected to Thrombophilia?? Hypercoagulability syndrome is a better title for it, is a more universal title, is a syndrome, thrombophilia seems lots of platelets and is only one reason for hypercoagulability. Best Doc Elisa  ✉ 02:32, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I said "it seems" and I'm thinking about people who don't speak English as a native language. We must remember that all the World read en:WP. English is the Universal language. In Portugal for instance we say "trombofilia" but usualy we explain to patients the hypercoagulability syndrome, because they understand better. They will search under this name on web Doc Elisa  ✉ 06:24, 7 April 2013 (UTC)