User talk:Blainedavid

A tag has been placed on The Guild of Outsider Writers, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion. To do this, add  on the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag) and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. -- Finngall  talk  16:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


 * (copied from article talk page in case it gets deleted)
 * It's not that it's commercial--it's obviously not. But Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not merely a collection of random information, and if this guild is not shown to meet the notability guidelines for organizations, then it doesn't merit inclusion here. -- Finngall   talk  16:45, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Blaine, I wanted to drop a personal note regarding the deletion. I was impressed by your civility in your comments on the talk page. The article was deleted, mainly because it didn't meet our notability guidelines. However, I want to encourage you not to give up in writing here. You obviously have good information to share.  AK Radecki Speaketh  00:10, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I appreciate your encouragement, but I probably don't understand the concepts here. What I see is that a non-profit group trying to put control of literature back into the hands of authors is considered less notable than my red headed step brother, David Blaine, a man who has a large article in Wikipedia because he's almost drowned, lived in a box suspended over a river and been frozen in a block of ice. There's also an article on Kelly Clarkson, who is deemed notable because she won American Idol. I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, it's just true. The things the majority of people in Western culture consider "notable" diverge broadly from my ideas of notability. Let me ask you this, if a poetry reading, or a contest, were sponsored by the OW and that fact were reported by a third party, such as a newspaper or magazine not edited by any OW members, would that be considered validating? Perhaps I'm just too soon to the party. I can't believe someone who writes and edits for Wikipedia doesn't see an effort to advance literature as notable. Blainedavid 12:52, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Notable is not the same as important. Your organization may be very important for the future of our civilization.  Yet it has not attracted the notice of independent, verifiable periodicals and web sites.  Some day it might. The Guild needs a good press agent. Bearian 19:10, 19 July 2007 (UTC)